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Thanks for nothing, Bud!

What do these places have in common?

Bloomington, Indiana; Indianapolis; Champaign, Illinois

And what do these places have in common?

Davenport, Iowa; North central Iowa; Japan

The first three are places where yesterday's game telecast was blacked out, according to reports from BCB readers in the game thread. The last three are places where BCB readers reported they could watch the game (and in Davenport, cwyers noted that he had both the CSN and TBS feeds).

So let me get this straight. MLB's ridiculous TV blackout policy prevented Cubs fans in the Midwest from watching the game, but dragonsfanatic reported from Japan that he was able to watch the game -- seeing the CSN feed on his satellite channel.

I hesitate to start being a Johnny-one-note on this topic, but hey -- I've got an online soapbox here and I have really strong feelings about this, so why the heck not.

This makes absolutely no sense. How does preventing Cubs fans in Champaign, Bloomington and Indianapolis from watching yesterday's game -- either on the Chicago feed from CSN or the national TBS telecast -- protect anyone's interest? All it accomplished was having fewer sets of eyeballs for either or both telecasts, thus diminishing the ratings numbers -- and possibly lowering advertising rates -- and having pissed-off Cubs fans who couldn't watch the game.

Meanwhile, cwyers had his choice of telecasts in the Quad Cities area. Other parts of Iowa could watch the game on CSN, but not on TBS, and our Japanese correspondent, dragonsfanatic, was also able to see the CSN feed on his Japanese satellite service. In Chicago, I watched the game on CSN, but had TBS blacked out. I guess I can understand this -- in Chicago, they want you to watch the CSN commercials -- but how does blacking out Cub fans in Bloomington, Indiana accomplish anything except making potential customers angry?

Here's what I'm hoping to accomplish with this post. First, I'd like anyone who was blacked out yesterday to post their location. Second, the other day when I wrote on this topic, I quoted Maury Brown's Baseball Prospectus article ($) on the subject. Later that day I discovered that Maury had signed up to be a BCB member. So Maury, if you're reading this, I hope you too will post a comment, and perhaps if we raise our voices loud enough, even the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil ostriches who run baseball will see the light of their television screens.

In a phrase borrowed from the Passover season, which begins this weekend: Let our people watch!

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Blacked out

From Logansport, IN.

Cable here does not feature CSN, but its bastard brother FSN, which in this region carries Reds broadcasts.

by Ayralin on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 AM CDT   0 recs

Not that familiar with Indiana.

Exactly where is Logansport?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

About halfway between...

...Indianapolis and South Bend. North-central part of the state.

by Ayralin on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds like Cub country to me.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

We previously had FSN Midwest, which featured Cardinals games, but then they gave Indiana its own region and stripped half the programming from it. Retaining Pacers games was not a positive.

by Ayralin on Apr 14, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They seem to refuse to understand...

... that with mobility these days, there are fans of many teams who live outside the "home" area of that team.

Heads buried deeply in the sand, that's MLB ownership.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

MLB.TV

Was nice while it lasted, at least. Now, I want to cry false advertising whenever I hear the "see your favorite team's out-of-market games live" schpiel. They could at least word it "see your favorite out-of-market team's games live" to stop getting my hopes up.

by Ayralin on Apr 14, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hated that

when I lived south of Rt. 30 during my undergrad years. I suppose that area of Indiana, and especially Muncie and Bloomington, could be considered Reds country. But according to the map Al posted in his earlier post on this topic, B-town, Muncie and Logansport are all in shared Cubs/White Sox/Reds territory.

There are tons of Cubs and a couple Sox fans in the college towns. I could go to a Meijer store in Muncie and buy Cubs gear, for crying out loud. I don't recall seeing any Reds or Sox gear for sale anywhere.

Yet, the only Cubs games I would get were those on WGN, and the random few games telecasted nationally on Fox [not FSN]. I understand it's impossible to show every team's game, but we didn't even get a third of the ones on FSN/CSN. I don't wanna get too mushy, but seeing games on WGN alleviated a lot of homesickness at times and it really stunk to not be able to watch the games when they were on other channels.

You'd think that poor college students wouldn't be able to afford beyond-basic cable, but there were actually some good TV/internet bundle deals we could afford. So it's not like there wouldn't be home viewers in these areas.

Needless to say, the abundance of Cubs coverage was a big factor in my decision to move back to my hometown.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 14, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you're right, i am poor...

although i was gone this weekend and couldn't watch the game anyway, the thought that i may not be able to watch all the games this summer while down in champaign is not a pleasant one. i know my numbers are probably a bit off, but i'm guessing at least 50% of students on campus (U of I) are cubs fans. thats 20,000 students who are missing out on games. now, i could live with not watching the games, but 720 WGN doesn't come in down here, so i can't even listen (i would actually prefer listening.)

Oh well, i'll just have to find a way to get by.

Also, with the MLB.com audio, is that the WGN radio broadcast?

by Luke82385 on Apr 14, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

Its Pat and Ron all the time.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Apr 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Again, this is the reason not to have cable

I dont know why anybody who is a cubs fan in Indiana would have cable. I have dish network, I get the comcast sports chicago station, the big ten station, the NFL network and all for cheaper than the cable company. To me there just isnt any choice, dump cable and get Dish Network. I hope they send me a check for promoting them.

2008 has to be the year, doesnt it?

by indytaz on Apr 14, 2008 11:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I pay $35 for digital...

... but DN would cost me $80, at least in Des Moines. No CSN on the digital cable, but this is sort of my silent protest against WGN for splitting time with the White Sox. All Cubs games should be on WGN.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, unfortunately we'll never have that again.

All Cubs games should be available on all sources (satellite, digital cable, MLB.TV) to ANYONE as long as they are willing to pay for them. Period.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we didn't have a choice.

If we wanted high speed internet, we HAD to get the cable bundle. It was that or get satellite and have dial-up. Jeez.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Plus some apartment buildings won't let you put dishes up anyway. I moved from Dayton, OH where I could watch every single Cubs game on MLB.TV (except for Cubs/Reds games which were on FSN anyway) to a suburb of Indianapolis where I can't watch any MLB.TV games. I also have Comcast Cable but can't get Comcast Sports Network, instead I get stupid FSN and way too much Dusty Baker in my life. This is a HUGE problem, I love my Cubs and rarely get to see them.

by TheHawk5 on Apr 14, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Blacked Out

From Bloomington, IN as you already established in your original post

Although Comcast is our cable provider(recently acquired Insight), they do not provide CSN and instead provide FSN and the damn Reds games as well....TBS broadcast was blacked out as previously mentioned

by gmhaynes on Apr 14, 2008 10:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Out in the boonies

Here in the Northwest Iowa countryside, 15 miles north of Cherokee, relying on Direct TV to bring me the world. Unfortunately, my world yesterday was blank, as TBS was blacked out here. At least KCIM-AM radio in Carroll broadcast Pat and Ron; they have my undying gratitude. My DTV lease expires this summer, and boy, are they in for a treat when they call to ask for a subscription renewal. Not that it will matter - I suppose DTV will pass the blame on to MLB. To say I am upset is the understatement of the year. How in the hell am I supposed to remain a fan when I continuously get dumped on like this?

Thanks for carrying the torch for us, Al. We really, really appreciate it.

by NWIowaCubFan on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 AM CDT   0 recs

That's awesome!

At least you got to listen to Pat and Ron! (Trying to see the bright side for you)

"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden

by toaster on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not going to dump the Cubs...

for anything, but I might dump Mediacom for not carrying CSN. It's not their fault that they have to blackout the games, but it is their fault for not carrying CSN.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Need help

Al or anyone, I am trying to find the Cubs web cam that shows home plate. It's impossible to find on their web site, google was no help, and a search on BCB said "No Stories were found for "web cam" in Bleed Cubbie Blue ". I know people have posted them here, but apparently the search doesn't include posts.

Thanks and it stinks for you guys who couldn't watch the game!

"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden

by toaster on Apr 14, 2008 9:25 AM CDT   0 recs

The webcam...

... is now behind the Cubs Club wall... you have to join, then you'll find the link. It costs $20 and you get free MLB audio.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What a joke.

If the Cubs think I'm going to pay $20 just to see a grainy webcam of Wrigley Field (I wouldn't use the audio), they're crazy.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There are other things you get for the $20.

For one thing, opportunities to buy tickets to supposedly sold-out games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Al

But yeah I'm not spending $20, it's just I have to get some work done and wanted to see if there was a BP happening today for a noon time walk. It's nice to see Ballhawk and hear the crack of the bat too.

Have a good day all, it's Spring again!!!!

"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden

by toaster on Apr 14, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I understand.

My guess is, with all the extra-inning games, Lou probably gave everyone the day completely off.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats true

I made up my $20 in a matters of days. I also got offers for half-price tickets. When there is a rain-out you will get an offer for half-price tickets also. The ticket offer for sold out games goes like this.... Being a Cubs Club member youwill get an offer to enter for "a chance to purchase up to 2 bleacher tickets at face value" for sold out bleacher games.

I guess I can donate $20 a year to the Cubs seeing how I save sooo much $$$ on bringing my own 'drinks' into the stadium.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't forget the shiny membership card!

Because we ALL need more plastic to shove in our wallets.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 14, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here is my take on Cubs Club

If you live in the Chicagoland area and attend Cub games then it's great.

Buying it for MLB Cubs audio isn't so hot. You can get ALL the games on MLB.COM for $15

If you ever listen to Cub audio and never go to a game then it's probably not worth it.

If you never listen to Cub audio and never go to a game but want to support your team then it's worth it.

It makes a great gift to any Cub fan. They'll get a fancy membership card.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 14, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting.

Would it be worth it for the time between now and the first two weeks of June when I graduate (and leave the area)?

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 14, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can bypass the Cubs Club fee

and see just the webcam for free by clicking on here.

by MillsChC on Apr 14, 2008 10:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Another Bloomingtonian Complaint

Another citizen of Bloomington with the same situation. I noticed the game was on TBS yesterday so I left for work with it scheduled to be recorded, taking special care to not see the score at work, only to come home and find that all I had was a blank screen, except for the occasional blip of a commercial cutting into the darkness. Maybe all of us Bloomingtonians should meet to form a Bloomington chapter of Bleed Cubbie Blue.

by waltetod on Apr 14, 2008 9:28 AM CDT   0 recs

Agreed.

For this and the post just after. As a Nashville TN native just moved to Bloomington, IN, I am incensed at the asinine blackout policy in both places. Nashville is a 4 1/2 hr drive from Atlanta and a 5 hour drive from Cincinnati. Stupid to blackout either. Bloomington is 4 1/2 hours from Chicago (Wrigley) and 3+ from Cincinnati. What a stupid idea. I am one that MLB IS losing revenue from. I won't buy the MLB.tv if I can't watch Cubs home games in the afternoon on my computer. It's not like blacking me out is going to make me drive 4 1/2 hours more often to go see the Cubs. I have 4 kids 6 and under. Their mother would shoot me! :)

by Archie on Apr 14, 2008 9:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Btown

I'm another Btowner. I hate this blackout business. Last year I ended up spending countless hours (and dollars) at BW3 last season so I could watch their satellite for the CSN games. I thought maybe we'd be in luck with the switch from Insight to Comcast, but I think everyone's agreed that Comcast has brought nothing but trouble.
I've been lurking BCB since the middle of last season and could have sworn there was no one else here from Bloomington!

by Caheisey on Apr 14, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

MLB blackout policy is absurd

Cubs fans here in Nashville are blacked out for any games involving the Reds or the Braves. A four to five hour drive shows them as our "home" team. I'm surprised they don't block the audio feed.

by Cajuncub on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 AM CDT   0 recs

Idiotic.

Hundreds of miles from those teams. If nothing else, you should get the Reds or Braves home feed, but they black that out... why? To protect the Nashville Sounds? Stupid.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We get the Reds and Braves once a week

on FSN south. That's it. I could understand if we got all their games via FSN or TBS or whatever. I wonder how long until the Cubs follow the Braves by having no games on WGN? I guess it depends on the new owner, but it may be coming. I don't know what part of Nashville the others live in, but I have gone to Atlanta and Cincy in less than 4 hours driving the speed limit. But that is still too far to expect me to go to the games because I am blacked out. What are they thinking? Nevermind...

by LT on Apr 14, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Waverly, Iowa

Fortunate enough to have CSN even though TBS was blacked out.

by WartburgCub on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 AM CDT   0 recs

DES MOINES... blacked out

We're pretty much a Cubs town, you know, with the AAA affilliate Iowa CUBS here and all.

Instead, I listened to the Cubs radio broadcast and watched the absolutely thrilling Kansas City/Minnesota game on FSN Midwest with the sound off pretending that the Cubs were playing.

Pathetic? Absolutely.

I called Mediacom to complain, but it really didn't matter. The lady on the phone said that they had received "several" phone calls from angered Cubs fans about the blackout. Mediacom doesn't offer CSN in Des Moines, but they offer it in Eastern Iowa. What gives??

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank God

Iowa City gets Comcast Sports Net. Im a student at the university of iowa from the suburbs of chicago so I get to watch most of the games on CSN and WGN. However the games on CLTV or CSN+ or whatever its called we dont get. I bought MLB.TV thinking i could watch the games but of course im blackedout from watching it. The only good thing about it is i can watch replays of old games.

by dlee25 on Apr 14, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CSN+ games in IC

If you have Mediacom, check channel 74 for CSN+ games. No CLTV games, though.

by salparadise23 on Apr 14, 2008 10:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea thats true

Thats right chan 74 had the game last time.... but i dont know if its goning to have every CSN+ game and also it cut out to espn news when the cubbies were playin Pittsburgh in extras

by dlee25 on Apr 14, 2008 11:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Does Mediacom...

...serve Iowa City as well?

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, Mediacom does, all of Eastern Iowa I think.

and to the other post above, they do show games on 74 for CSN+, but if the game goes longer than its scheduled they will cut off the game. They did that for the 15 inning game against the Pirates, cut the game off at 9:30 in the 12th inning for ESPN News. I complained but all I got was a generic "we'll pass your comment on."

by BrownE34 on Apr 14, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have family

in Des Moines and they switched from Mediacom to DirecTV so they could get CSN. They also get the CSN+ channel too. Have you thought about switching?

by sue369 on Apr 14, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Considered it, but...

I just got Cable in my home for the first time this week, thinking I could at least get games on the weekends and an occasional night game on WGN. I don't watch that much TV besides baseball, and DTV is a bit too expensive for my family.

I think that I'm going to start a petition to get Mediacom to carry CSN.

Nice suggestion, though.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I live in

Iowa Falls and Mediacom here carries CSN. I would definitely ask them why they don't offer it in Des Moines.

by sue369 on Apr 14, 2008 12:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dubuque here

And we get CSN games, and usually we get the ones that are on CSN+ too. They usually put them on the Mediacom Connections channel or whatever it is.

by rambler19 on Apr 14, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Angry

Blacked out all over in indy. Had to go to a bar (oh well...) to see the game. I don't understand it, but I long for the good old WGN days with Harry and Stone.

"Sometimes an intelligent man is forced to be drunk in order to spend time with fools." -Hemmingway

by IndyDiehard on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 AM CDT   0 recs

Suggestion

Al, have you spoken with any other SBnation blogs regarding this? It would be cool to see the true extent of this. How are Cardinal fans affected, Giants fans, etc. If there can be a compendium of the inconsistancies, the inanities, the absurdities and the absolute stupidities of the MLB blackout restriction policy perhaps something can get done.

I can dream, right?

They call me MISTER Fukudome!

by brokenland on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 AM CDT   0 recs

This is a good idea.

I'll see what I can do about this. You're right, that would raise a lot more voices in protest.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Living in St Louis

I can tell you it seems most Cardinals games are shown on FSN Midwest, with a portion on the local NBC affiliate (used to be shown on WB before it switched to CW). I don't know the exact number cos I don't really follow the Cards. I can tell you that, thankfully, Fox Saturday will almost always show the Cubs game (when they're playing) over any other games, unless the Cardinals happen to be playing. And, obviously, any Cubs/Cards game on Fox Saturday is shown. Last year, I believe all but one Cubs Saturday games were shown here.

Kinda sorta an oaky afterbirth.

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 14, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Love the sig line.

Did you see this?
http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=59189

Haiku-a-Day for Fukudome, helping Fuku understand the American game, 17 syllables at a time. Visit cubshaikus.blogspot.com!

by Bildo1805 on Apr 14, 2008 11:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus, I just bought

A $200 plasma screen TV. So its even worse that I can't watch games.

by TheHawk5 on Apr 14, 2008 10:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cubs look shockingly mediocre thru 12 games

It's nice to be 7-5. That said there are disturbing warning signs about this ballclub that need to get resolved. Right now we aren't a very good ballclub.

1. The tablesetters. In a word, AWFUL.
2. The continued dysfunctionality of the Cub offense - i.e., the fundamental inability to execute and manufacture runs when the situation calls for it.
3. I hate Alfonso Soriano. There, I got that off my chest.
4. Shortstop. Ryan Theriot isn't exactly a good gloveman and will have to hit a lot better than .240 to justify existence in the everyday lineup.
5. Centerfield. Reed Johnson is an OK role player, but not suited to play CF several days a week. Felix Pie needs to contribute something offensively, otherwise he is a wasted roster spot.
6. Ted Lilly and Rich Hill. Our starting pitching is already suspect enough without both these guys struggling. One of them needs to get out of their funk if we are to have a chance in 2008.

If it were up to me I'd cut to the chase and insert Jon Lieber into the rotation right now. I'd also be scouring the four corners of the earth for help at the top of the batting order, either in the form of a centerfielder or shortstop type. Doesn't have to be a star or an everyday ballplayer necessarily.

by MDBNIU on Apr 14, 2008 9:46 AM CDT   0 recs

Chill?...

Why do you always have to be such a downer? Can you ever say anything positive? We won yesterday and it's April 14th. Time to relax.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 9:51 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

Loud, sustained applause.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

Fukudome and Lee are hitting under .400. Wait til next year everybody.

They call me MISTER Fukudome!

by brokenland on Apr 14, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fine

Tune out the negatives and the warning signs. After all, the ostrich approach of burying heads in sand has worked SO WELL for Cub fans the last 100 years.

Cubs have core problems that need to be addressed. Right now this is a mediocre ballclub.

by MDBNIU on Apr 14, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course

They have problems. We know that. But there are positive things going on too. Lee, Fukudome, Soto, Dempster, Wood (to a point). And yes, those three extra inning games were nail biters, and all three we maybe shoulda lost. But we didn't. We won those games. If you lose those games it's demoralizing.

Here is the problem, the main problem with the team this year (after 11 games, c'mon), we need to be able to beat teams like the Phillies. In a couple of weeks the Mets come to town for two games and we should win both, Santana or no Santana. WE NEED TO DEFEAT GOOD TEAMS.

Because last year we won the division, but....and I don't want anymore Buts.

They call me MISTER Fukudome!

by brokenland on Apr 14, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Cubs are on pace...

to win 115 games. Our winning percentage is .714. Hardly mediocre.

This is not sustainable of course, but I like our odds anyway.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually

Our winning percentage is .583. Not bad, but not great either.

They call me MISTER Fukudome!

by brokenland on Apr 14, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahh, math...

...not so good at it. Even at .583, we're on pace to win 95 games. Not too shabby.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's our MDBINU! (cue laugh track, applause)

Tune out the negatives and the warning signs. After all, the ostrich approach of burying heads in sand has worked SO WELL for Cub fans the last 100 years.

Exactly what, and please be specific here because I'm genuinely curious, will tuning into the negatives accomplish as a fan? Are we going to stop going to games en masse because we think Ted Lilly's started the year poorly? Boycott hotdogs until Pie starts hitting? Start coming to games late until Ryan Theriot's defense improves? Stage a sit-in until the Cubs DFA Soriano?

Precisely what recourse are we, as fans, avoiding by "burying heads in the sand" and cheering for our team?

by Wreckard on Apr 14, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

AH. AND

ENOUGH WITH THE BOOING. Derrek Lee said of Dusty's return "They boo everything now. They might boo him. I don't see a reason why. He did a great job, he's a good person, and he should be received [well]."

"They boo everything now" Hearing my favorite player say that embarasses me as a fan.

"Sometimes an intelligent man is forced to be drunk in order to spend time with fools." -Hemmingway

by IndyDiehard on Apr 14, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If anything..

Cheer that Dusty is not our manager anymore!

Haiku-a-Day for Fukudome, helping Fuku understand the American game, 17 syllables at a time. Visit cubshaikus.blogspot.com!

by Bildo1805 on Apr 14, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

But we used to be thought of as loyal, fun loving, and informed fans. Now we come off as bitter and beleagered. I just hate to see the Wrigley fans start down the path of NY fandom.

"Sometimes an intelligent man is forced to be drunk in order to spend time with fools." -Hemmingway

by IndyDiehard on Apr 14, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And the Boston fans too

watching a portion of the Yankees-Red Sox game last night, the cheer heard most often was not "Let's Go Red Sox" or some derivation thereof, it was "Yankees Suck". I get annoyed when fans root against the other team vs. for their own team.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll be sad if Dusty is booed...

...He sucked, but it's not like he took a dump on home plate.

I was pissed that the Brewers fans booed Carlos Lee last year in his first game back to Miller Park. It was classless, and you can't blame a guy for leaving a team to make more money for his family.

Please cheer for him people.

Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1

by IowaCubs- on Apr 14, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I love Carlos Lee

Ive seen him take so much crap in the bleachers and he always turns and laughs when theres a good one yelled at him.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 14, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

C'mon man...

You are completely off-topic right now. Give the Nostradamus act a rest for the day.

by Damen Jackson on Apr 14, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Geez... think positive.

We've played poorly, BUT... we have a winning record!

Just think how many games we can win, if we start to actually play good baseball :)

Cubs 2008 (7-5)
Home (3-3) | Road (4-2) | 1-Run Games (2-2) | Extra Innings (3-1)
Updated on April 13, 2008

by SackMan on Apr 14, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs