The Answer, My Friend, Is Blowing In The Wind
Before I mention last night's wicked weather conditions, a little lesson, kiddies.
One is good. Two is funny. Three is still... mostly funny. Even one of the Cubs chimed in:
"I thought it was hilarious," Ryan Theriot said. "I thought it was awesome. I actually was hoping it would kind of continue."
Well, yeah, sort of, Ryan. Fifteen isn't funny. What am I talking about? The 15 baseballs that were thrown back from the bleachers and the street after Adam Dunn's monster home run onto Sheffield off Kevin Hart in the 8th inning of the Cubs' 12-3 win over the Reds last night. Some of those balls weren't that far from hitting Cubs outfielders in the head (I can just see Kosuke Fukudome looking at this spectacle and thinking, "What the heck have I gotten myself into?").
Beyond that, as Mike quickly mentioned, "Do you all want the score of this game to be 9-0?" (That's the official score of a forfeit game, if you didn't know.) I don't think it ever got quite that far, but that is an option for umpires if they think behavior in the stands has gotten so out of hand that the Cubs couldn't control it and the game couldn't continue.
The bottom line is -- have fun. But don't get stupid, especially on a night when the Cubs did practically everything right. It was the first blowout win of the season, on an night when the wind was blowing out at near-gale force (the "official" wind speed was 14 MPH, but it was far stronger than that most of the night; I'd estimate gusts at over 35 MPH, strong enough to send trash flying through the bleachers and for the Cubs to not even put the retired number flags and team standing flags up).
The Cubs took the lead in the first inning off Josh Fogg (whose ERA, a bad 7.00 coming in, jumped to 13.09 after he allowed the first nine runs), hitting three doubles and a single sandwiched around a HBP to Aramis Ramirez. That's been one of the best things about many of the Cubs' offensive outbursts this year so far -- they've been done without home runs. Of the 13 Cub hits last night, only one -- Derrek Lee's sixth of the year, matching his total from the entire first half of 2007, was a home run. Apart from that, they had six walks (including getting the bases loaded on walks in the 9th off Reds closer Francisco Cordero, scoring on Soto's groundout), seven singles and five doubles, including a double laced down the line by Carlos Zambrano, who had his first three hits of the year.
Z's double was in the 7th, after the Cubs had an 11-2 lead; we were all surprised to see him stay in the game on the bases, since it was obvious that Kevin Hart was going to come in the game anyway. Why risk getting Z hurt? I thought that with the wind blowing at gale force, Z would be trying to hit every ball into Lake Michigan, but he had really good at-bats in raising his season average to .250 (3-for-12). He now has 16 career doubles.
The Cubs also got good performances out of Ryan Theriot (two hits, raising his average to .280), Geovany Soto (only one hit, but it was a two-run double, and he drove in another run on a groundout), Kosuke Fukudome (does he EVER have a bad game? Two hits and two walks), and a two-run double from Mark DeRosa.
The booing for former Cubs Corey Patterson and manager Dusty Baker subsided a bit last night as people were much more interested in reveling about the Cubs' fine evening. They'll go for the sweep this afternoon, when it'll be a little less windy. I'll have a separate game thread up in about three hours. Finally, David and I have an all-Fukudome selection of photos this morning:
Top to bottom: Kosuke Fukudome throws a ball to the RF bleacher fans in the 1st inning; Fukudome rounding first base on his 1st-inning double; Fukudome making a catch up close and personal with Reed Johnson; Mike Fontenot's over the shoulder catch near Fukudome (latter two both in the sixth inning). Click on photo to open a larger version in a new browser window. Photos by David Sameshima
0 recs |
189
comments
Read Related
Comments
I think you said it best Al,...
that the Cubs were able to score most of their runs without benefit of the homerun!
This had been a slight problem earlier in the season, but now looks like it is changing for the good! they will do well if they can keep scoring runs without having to hit an HR every time.
Go Cubs!
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Apr 17, 2008 8:11 AM CDT 0 recs
Would we have it any other way?
Looking at the standings this morning the red hot Cardinals are tied with the D’Backs for best record with the Cubs right on their heels. As a long time cub fan would we have it any other way? Cubs-Cardinals fighting it out? I just don’t see the Cards hanging around for very long though, I’m amazed they’ve made it this far with their talent. For now, Cubdom is all smiles after the last two games. A sweep is a necessity today.
Great pictures, great offense last night, great hitting by DLee (isn’t that nice to see) and great pickup of Fukudome (man do I like to watch him bat; I think it’s actually rubbing off on some of our players!).
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Apr 17, 2008 8:12 AM CDT 0 recs
I flipped the channel
last night as the Cubs game got our of hand to the Cards and Brewers. It is amazing how the Cardinals get wins. The talent just is not there this year, but they keep winning….........at least Cub killer Jim Edmonds is not there anymore.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Apr 17, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Take a look.....
at the Cardinals schedule thus far. 3 vs. Rockies(who haven’t been a world series team), 3 vs. Washington, 3 vs. Houston, 4 vs. San Fran., 2 vs. Brewers. After the last Brewers game of that series they play San Fran. again, then the Brewers again, then the Pirates, Houston, and Cincy.
by Imtrejo on
Apr 17, 2008 8:32 AM CDT
up
0 recs
It's true
I don’t know if there is a way to measure it accurately, but the Cardinals have probably played the easiest schedule in the NL thus far
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Apr 17, 2008 8:39 AM CDT
up
0 recs
This will, of course, all even out as the season goes on.
The Cardinals aren’t that good. The history of baseball is littered with teams that started off this well, then flopped.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Like say a certain 2006 team
that started 13-8
by dr stabbingworth on
Apr 17, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Right.
Or the 1975 Cubs who started 20-10 (finished 75-87). Or the 1977 Cubs who started 47-22 and finished 81-81.
I could go on, but I think I better not.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I also don't think the Cards...
will stick around and I hate to say it but their early good fortunes are a true testament to LaRussa and Dave Duncan. There’s no other way to put it. It’s only a matter of time before Pujols goes down and that pitching staff shows it’s colors.
Even with Soriano going on the DL, I’m all smiles this morning. Hopefully the bats stay hot and we get the sweep of Dusty and Co.
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I guess it is hard to judge...
...what really was going on with this ball incident without seeing it. I had Gameday up, and it just said “On-field delay”, nothing more.
Last night’s game was great; Zambrano appears to be decaffinated, we had good, long sustaining innings, and we are what, 8-2 in our last ten? I’m feeling pretty good right now, and that’s without our All-Star left fielder.
Seems like management has assembled a pretty deep team, with Soriano out for a bit, and pitchers like Hart and Lieber able to go 3, 4, and 5 innings, if necessary.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 17, 2008 8:12 AM CDT 0 recs
All those fans are idiots
Disagree with me if you want but I for one am embarrassed by it when it happens. Just think those driunken idiots are waking up about now thinking how excited they were to get a BP ball, now they dont have it. Its unacceptable. I thought it was funny when the person (if you didnt know this Al from where I was sitting the person on the street failed once but not twice to get the ball on the field) then it became indicative of the idiot ‘frat’ boys in the crowd---sorry all I care about normally is the team on the field but cant stand this crap. Great game, big outing by Z
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:01 AM CDT
up
0 recs
And again
I challenge anyone to come out on this site and admit they threw a ball on the field or that they throw beer cups on the field…..come on admit it….well youre probably too embarrased to do so.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:02 AM CDT
up
0 recs
umm... I have. See my post below.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Apr 17, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
up
0 recs
You were in RF las night, right?
One of the posters below says it seemed organized, like a group of people had planned it. Did it look that way from your vantage point?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 9:03 AM CDT
up
0 recs
It didn't from my viewpoint.
Not all of those balls came from RF.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 9:23 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Assumption
I assumed it was one of those “flash mobs”. I mean there was no logical reason for that to happen spontaneously. The Cubs didnt suddenly blow a lead. It wasnt Corey up to bat. Unless it was free-baseball-day at the park, this had to be organized.
by californiachicagoan on
Apr 17, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
up
0 recs
If Ryan Theriot had an affinity
for hitting to equal his affinity for flapping his jibs, he’d be Ty Cobb, minus the racism and tobacco.
That said, he’s really picked it up at the plate, and just in time. I don’t like Fontenot in the leadoff spot, though. I’d prefer Dome leading off, Johnson/Pie hitting second, and Soto/Derosa hitting 5th.
The baseball thing was pretty silly. I don’t think it’s quite cause for all the moralizing and hand-wringing that went on the diary on the subject, but I hope it doesn’t continue and having a player applaud the drunken tomfoolery of a few fans doesn’t help matters.
RF bleacher fans, please don’t do this again.
Ryan Theriot, shut up and hit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 17, 2008 8:13 AM CDT 0 recs
Get a sense of humor
It WAS funny – the first time.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Apr 17, 2008 8:16 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Get a pair of readin' glasses.
I didn’t say it wasn’t funny. I laughed when it happened. I did say I didn’t want it to happen again, which is a sentiment you seem to share.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:18 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I just don't want to see
a wacky umpire like Bob Davidson call the game because of sophomoric humor like this. I chuckled, but if it continues I bet the league office will put a stop to it.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Apr 17, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Exactly.
I thought it was funny, but I’d hate to see something like this result in an injury or a forfeiture. I hadn’t thought of it, but I think you’re you’re right about the Davidson angle.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Like I said...
... one was funny. Two was funny. Even three was sort of funny.
Fifteen isn’t funny. They DID risk a forfeit or injury. If this happens again, the Cubs will do their best to ban the practice, and I don’t think anyone wants that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 8:33 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Yeah.
I think it’s widely known that some bleacher fans bring dummy balls to the game, so that if they catch a homer, they toss back the dummy and keep the real one. I can see this incident resulting in fans being searched at the bleacher gates for the dummy balls, which might go towards eliminating the practice of tossing homers back altogether.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:40 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Exactly what I was about to say
the increased security may also find other “items” that I am sure many fans in general (not only bleacher fans) sneak into the stadium
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Apr 17, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Yep.
/blushes. wonders how he’ll hid the flask….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:44 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Acutally
I dont like two traditions at Wrigley….throwing the ball back and the guest conducture in the 7th
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:03 AM CDT
up
0 recs
The Guest Conductor
has got to go. Let Ron sing, play a video of Harry, limit it to former Cub players, or just stop doing it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 9:04 AM CDT
up
0 recs
or the organ
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Yeah, maybe.
Something, though. I’m tired of the Kellie Pickle/Jeff Gordon episodes…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Loud, sustained applause.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 9:23 AM CDT
up
0 recs
or high schoolers who have won 7 straight state football titles.
by Madison Cub Fan on
Apr 17, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Cordero
I thought they did get a run off of Cordero.
I could do without the precedent being set with the multiple balls. Once is funny. Every home run, annoying.
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on Apr 17, 2008 8:19 AM CDT 0 recs
They did, you're right.
I’ll fix that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 8:33 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Can anyone here deny if they were there,
9 Old Style’s deep, they wouldn’t of grabbed a rock and hurled one on first glance? Please
Enough, let us talk about the fantastic baseball being played, and another SWEEEEEEEEP.
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on Apr 17, 2008 8:21 AM CDT 0 recs
I can most assuredly deny that,
because I’ve been there “nine Old Styles deep” and never once have I thrown anything on the field. Mob mentality and booze are no excuse.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:26 AM CDT
up
0 recs
It had better be a one-time mistake.
Because next time, it’s possible the Cubs might be forced to forfeit. Or someone might get hurt.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 8:35 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Do us a favor
likkimmer if youre going to throw stuff on the field…....dont buy tickets so a respectable fan can. If youve ever sat in the bleachers, which you have, read the sign that says respect Wrigley, do it or leave.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Please don't assume
I have never thrown a single thing onto the field
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
up
0 recs
That was maybe the most arrogant thing I've read at second glance
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Read it again
I stand by it….youre gonna throw crap on the field GO HOME. Ill point you out if im in the bleachers…YES in the bleachers ill tattle.
Arrogant? Then what is throwing beer cups on the field? A loser
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I haven't thrown as much as a sunflower seed on the field idiot
Why are you assuming I vandalize the park? I usually just quietly sit and keep score
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Im sorry if this made me think you threw something on the field
“9 Old Style’s deep, they wouldn’t of grabbed a rock and hurled one on first glance? Please”
And you know this is a blog Ill reserve my good typing and grammar for work thanks.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
up
0 recs
This discussion can be had without calling someone "idiot".
Knock it off, now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Have you been educated?
Your writing is really bad
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
up
0 recs
stop embarrassing the good Cub fans
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Oh yeah of course of course
Cause I threw every single one of those balls onto the field. From Madrid, Spain.
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
up
0 recs
right now -
i think you both are embarassing yourselves. Move to a different topic!
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
by HIGGY on
Apr 17, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Um...
... yes. Move on. Now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Amen!
NFW would the game be forfeited on that action in of itself. If it is viewed as dangerously by the league as all those here believe, first the league will warn the team, then the umpires will remind management and police of the potential issue. This has not got anywhere near that far.
There’s waaaaaay too many overly-sensitive posters here today.
OMG….with all the good things that happened in the game, to rant like this. It is utterly amazing what constitutes the hair-like trigger.
You sensitive ones want to rant? Rant about people running on the field. Rant about fan interference like the 2 HR balls in one game last year.
It’s amazing how something like this happens and the first words that come out are “frat” and “booze”.
by blackhawk24 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Amen
Get laid people
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Inappropriate. Inappropriate. Inappropriate.
KNOCK IT OFF NOW.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
up
0 recs
frat booze
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
up
0 recs
IF there was ever a fanbase...
....that could be responsible for a forfeitted game, it’d be the 90% of liquored up Cub fans who sit out in the bleachers, especially a night game.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on
Apr 17, 2008 10:21 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Ha, or the Philly fans
When I was there they were bragging about throwing batteries.
The only thing wierder than batteries and OH Henry bars are those octopuss’s. Seriously where do you buy one and how do you sneak it in? bread it and fry it up, not even prince fielder could pass that up
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 10:24 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Battery incident...
I vaguely remember that. Now that’s absolutely messed up.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on
Apr 17, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Loud, sustained applause.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 8:35 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Sweep isn't a given.
Volquez has pitched very, very well this year and has been a highly regarded prospect up to this point. He had a rough breaking-in last season with Texas, but his stuff is for real. The Cubs had better bring their hitting shoes to the park today, because they’re going to need them.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:43 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Can't I root for a sweep?
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 8:45 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Of course.
I am, too.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:46 AM CDT
up
0 recs
How old are ya Gary?
"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me
by lilkimmer77 on
Apr 17, 2008 8:46 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Not that it matters,
but I’m 31.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Apr 17, 2008 8:46 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Actually Ill deny that.
I would never disgrace my version of baseball heaven, ever.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Apr 17, 2008 9:04 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I'll second that.
No excuses for this type of behavior. If “9 Old Styles” is what it takes, drink 8…
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Apr 17, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
up
0 recs
So who ever is drinking 9 and can hold it and
not do anything silly, let me know. I’ll sit by you and we can go for double digits together.
by blackhawk24 on
Apr 17, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Really wasn't the point....
...but I’ll gladly have a few beers with you blackhawk24.
“9 Old Styles deep” was given as a reason for acting like an idiot in a post above. I think what Hammer and I were trying to say is that this is no excuse for poor behavior. The point I was trying to make is if drinking too much alcohol makes you endanger players, fans, the game itself than maybe it’s time to show restraint. There is no “high horse” here, I have had my share of stupid drunk moments, but don’t blame a few beers for poor, irrational behavior.
by Tangled Up In Blue on
Apr 17, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
up
0 recs
Loud, sustained applause.
Plus, there’s the mob mentality. See three balls go on the field, idiots think they can keep doing it. Not all of those were “9 Old Styles deep”.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 17, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
up
0 recs
I like drinking beer A LOT
but if you have 9 beers at the game that would equal about 5 trips to the bathroom plus the trips for the beer. In the bleachers it takes a while to get ALL the way down to the washrooms—-the game the game the game
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---






