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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Friday 4/18, 1:20 CT

Pittsburgh Pirates at Chicago Cubs, Apr 18, 2008 1:20 PM CDT


It's good to know that Lou has players working on fundamentals. BCB reader ballhawk sent these to me, taken from the Wrigley webcam at 9:15 CT this morning:

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

That looks like Felix Pie and Ronny Cedeno practicing bunts. Nice to see. (Click on photos to open a larger version in a new browser window.)

More Friday morning notes:

  • Sam Zell says there is progress being made on the sale of the Cubs:
    Zell said in a conference call with creditors Thursday he now expects the confidential Cubs figures to be released to potential buyers in the next 10 days or so and a sale to be completed "sometime this year," regardless of what happens in ongoing negotiations with the state over Wrigley, or whatever the park winds up being called.
    The holdup, says the article, is in part because of the:
    efforts to work out a separate transaction with the state of Illinois for Wrigley Field, the Cubs' home, which has kept the company from releasing the ballclub's financial books to Major League Baseball-approved bidders.
    Hey, Sam: if this is what's holding it up, then sell the team and the park to the same entity!
  • For all of you who wanted Miguel Tejada, I'm guessing the Astros aren't too happy to find out he's going to be 34 next month, not 32.
  • Felix Pie isn't going anywhere (either traded or AAA). In fact, Bruce Miles tells us that Lou's trying to get him untracked:

    Cubs manager Lou Piniella says center fielder Felix Pie isn't a forgotten man.

    Quite the contrary, to hear Piniella tell it.

    "I've gotten involved," Piniella said before Thursday's game, which Pie did not start. "We're just shortening up his swing, getting him to hit more front-sided as opposed to back-sided. It might take a little bit, but I think it's going to really help him."

  • And in case you missed it, last night's Padres/Rockies game went 22 innings and lasted six hours and sixteen minutes.
Today's Starting Pitchers
Rich Hill
R. Hill
Cubs
vs. Ian Snell
I. Snell
Pirates
0-0 W-L 2-0
5.00 ERA 3.93
7 SO 15
7 BB 4
1 HR 1
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

I have been told by multiple sources that there's no way Rich Hill would ever be sent to Iowa. But if he doesn't start pitching better, starting today, I'd think they'd have to at least consider doing that, to get him straightened out. He gave the Pirates three hits and four walks eight days ago in Pittsburgh in a game the Cubs came back and won 7-3.

The Cubs have beaten up on Ian Snell pretty good in his career -- they're 4-1 against him and he's got an ugly 6.31 ERA vs. the Cubs. Ryan Theriot is 4-for-11 (1 double, 1 triple) vs. Snell and Aramis Ramirez is 7-for-20 (4 doubles) against him. I'd hope that Lou might give Felix Pie a start today against a RHP he can probably hit. (Pie has never faced Snell, however.)

Today's game is on WGN -- again, no Pittsburgh TV. For more see today's MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Maybe Pie and Cedeno should get out of there

so Henry Blanco can get some reps.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they did.

Those two need help, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a joke at Henry's expense : )

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I enjoyed the file names of those photos.

“buntingleft.jpg” and “buntingright.jpg”. If we had one of Henry, it’d be “buntingwrong”. Hey-o!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!

We’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I was going to use their names...

...but figured “buntingCEDENO!” wouldn’t make it through the obscenity filters.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 18, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niiiice!

n/t

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on Apr 18, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zingggggg!

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know...

I just missed it yesterday but they were discussing Pie on the broadcast, something about video taping his swing…maybe someone can fill in as to what was actually said?

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad...

...Lou is getting involved with this, because I could think of few others, who I would rather have trying to get Pie to where he needs to be.

The problem here, is going to be making these changes stick when Pie gets into the pressure of a ML game.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Apr 18, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct.

I’d like to see Pie get the start today, against the RHP.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way Lou...

...was talking, it sounded like he wanted to work with him for a while before he tossed him back out there.

We’ll see, but at this stage, I wouldn’t mind seeing him out there today.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Apr 18, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The quandary

Felix Pie poses a dilemma. The Cubs need to get some value out of Pie. He’s already spent two seasons at Triple A. Demoting him probably spells, for all intents and purposes, the effective end of his Cubbie big league future.

by MDBNIU on Apr 18, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A 22 inning game...

...and only three runs on TWENTY-FIVE HITS!! Wow. I cannot imagine playing a 6+ hour game; sometimes baseball just gets too long…and having to play in it?!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Apr 18, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tune into ESPN 1000

They are going to talk to Brenneman and ask him about the Pete Rose thing

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in the next 5-10 mins Its 10:10 now.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone please post a summary.

I’m leaving for the game shortly.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said...

...he doesn’t regret “a damn thing” that he said, but he did apologize to the “good” Cub fans who attend the games. He said he may have gone over the top a bit, but there are other people in baseball that feel the same way that he does about Cub fans. Too many fans go to the game at Wrigley just to get drunk, which is basically his opinion.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Apr 18, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also claims

this doesnt happen in any other park in baseball. Didn’t back down much if at all in my opinion. Waddle is his friend and lobbed him some easy ones.

FU-KU-DOH-MEH! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!!!!

by tony412 on Apr 18, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a worhtless ass kissing interview.

They babied him through the interview.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will do it real quick for you Al....

Arrogant.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect word

FYI, he will be having dinner with STeve Stone tonight…..maybe theyll beat a homeless man.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and then blame us Cubs fans for it

n/t

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the Society of Professional Journalists

I see a handful of ethics violations (also see Minimize Harm)

http://spj.org/pdf/ethicscode.pdf

FU-KU-DOH-MEH! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!!!!

by tony412 on Apr 18, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guy is a jerk!!!!

Holy cow – he needs someone to shrink his head.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate join the game late but,...

I missed what Brenneman said that everyone is reacting to. A short recap would help. Thanks.

by goddess on Apr 18, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a @ss

Somebody sounds a little bitter. Maybe it’s because of the number of Cub fans that show up in Cincinnati. They feel like the road team in their own stadium.

by goddess on Apr 18, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Southpaws Gone South On Cubs

Lilly has been terrible this year. Hill hasn’t been that much better. I had hopes that we could get a combined 25-30 victories out of these guys with Lilly getting the lion’s share of those victories. So far, we’ve gotten exactly zero from them.

by memphiscub on Apr 18, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Small sample size.

We’ve played 15 games. After today there’s still 90% of the season left. They could still win that many.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off topic, but

who else was startled awake by the earthquake this morning? I have a lamp with a weighted chain pull on it and it was clanking hard against the metal base. We just had an after shock. nearly as strong as the the first one this morning. I actually felt it this time. very creepy. California needs to take this crap back, we have tornados to worry about and that’s enough for me!

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Apr 18, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I slept right through it.

But I wish I had some kind of earthquake alarm to wake me up ahead of time so I could’ve experienced San Francisco without the high cost of living. And no, the earthquake itself was not the earthquake alarm, unfortunately.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slept through it.

Darnitall, wanted to experience one here in Chicago. Nothing out of place in my house, either.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine

how a very large and close clap of thunder kind of rattles your windows and vibrates your house, minus the boom. I am quite a bit closer to where it happened than you, but still 291 miles away from where it happened according to the USGS. It’s interestingto look at the stats and map. Go to http://www.USGS.gov if you are interested.

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Apr 18, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to school in California for 5 years

And experienced exactly ONE earthquake, which incidentally was a little bigger than the one this morning, close to 6.0 magnitude. I was on the floor reading my ex girlfriend’s paper and I felt the ground move back and forth, horizontally. I thought it was a truck going by, but then my gf came running into the room hollering her pretty head off. It barely felt like anything, but it was noticeable. Kinda pissed I missed the one this morning! Half the reason I went to school in california was to experience an earthquake!

by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 18, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slept right through it in Indianapolis

I was the only one in my office who didn’t feel it.

Haiku-a-Day for Fukudome, helping Fuku understand the American game, 17 syllables at a time. Visit cubshaikus.blogspot.com!

by Bildo1805 on Apr 18, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ambiguation jokes!

Love it!

"This is why you just root against them (the Cubs)."-Thom Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Apr 18, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scared the bejeebus out of me

I was awake, on the couch, watching yesterday’s game on the DVR. It’s a humbling moment to watch your 50 story high rise move inches side to side. By the time I realized what it was (and developed a knot of fear deep in my belly), it was over. Just for a moment I waited for the floor to collapse.

Can’t say watching yesterday’s game made me feel much better.

The BBC would like to apologize for the following announcement. -- Monty Python

by Emelie on Apr 18, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slept through too

in Iowa City and I’m very disappointed too.

by BrownE34 on Apr 18, 2008 10:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blanton

I want to resurrect talks about Joe Blanton. I think the move that the Cubs needed to make this off season was adding another starter not named John Lieber. I say trade some top prospects and get Blanton.

by drodd on Apr 18, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why? I don't

He’s an overrated pitcher who benefits significantly from his home park. Unless Lilly and Hill are done for the year, there is no reason to discuss Blanton.

by rlpete on Apr 18, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps you should reconsider...

Take a look at Blanton’s stats. Especially take a look at what he’s done away from the pitcher’s haven he pitches in. He’s not that good a pitcher. He’s not necessarily an upgrade over what we have. And he’s certainly not worth top prospects.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check out these numbers....

For those freaking out about Lilly and Hill:

0-3, 18 IP, 32 HA, 13.50 ERA.

These impressive numbers belong to the reigning AL Cy Young award winner.

by rlpete on Apr 18, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

thanks for reminding me -

he is on my fantasy team.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Apr 18, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who, interestingly enough, is left-handed as well.

Maybe there’s a lefty virus going around. Barry Zito continues to be pretty God awful as well.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah man dont remind me

its funny people think i will sell low on CC and offer these really bs trades on my league.

by xene on Apr 18, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hill and lilly

Al… I love how you think Hill needs to pitch better or get sent down, yet you say little/nothing about Lilly, who has pitched worse than Hill.

by big_lowitzki on Apr 18, 2008 10:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill can be optioned

Things would have to get really bad to do something with Lilly. His contract makes it where we have to live with him unless this carries on much longer than three starts.

by okiecubbie on Apr 18, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lilly is going nowhere...

However, he could be put on the DL until he “figures it out.”

But I’d be surprised if either Hill or Lilly disappear from the rotation. Piniella might get creative with Hill (mixing Lieber and/or Marshall into the rotation for a spot start here or there) and hiding Hill until he “figures it out.”

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that A Ram was out there taking fielding

..practice. 4 errors already and it could be about 7 if it wasnt for DLee. He is been awful in the field this season so far.

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 10:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The game starts at 3:20AM here...

...and it’s available on my satellite channel live.
I’s already very sleeply at 1AM now, and I doubt I can keep open my eyes then…. will program my DVR to record the game in anyway….

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Apr 18, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love DVR

I’ve programmed mine to record the game too since I’m at work. Have a good night!

by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 18, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure it's been posted here before

but for us unfortunate fans who aren’t blessed w/ DVR/TiVo, MLB.com will let you watch the full game in its entirety after the game has completed. You just need to register.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats true and ive used it

But it’s not in crisp HD….sorry had to rub it in ;-)

by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 18, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to register for an MLB.com account...

...which is free. You do not have to subscribe to MLB.tv, or any other pay service.

by cwyers on Apr 18, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent

I had assumed this was only for MLB.TV subscribers too! Thanks for clarifying that for those of us who still use our Jump to Conclusions mat.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 18, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love...

...another WGN broadcast in Mid-Missouri. Go Cubs!!!!

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 18, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A-bloody-men.

Sunday as well.

Kinda sorta an oaky afterbirth.

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 18, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case you guys haven't heard the rant about us Cubs

fans and how we’re careless w/ our balls here’s a link w/ the Brennaman Audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9Kso9q_Ws

ESPN is also going to post the interview w/ Brennaman later on today. I’ll post the link when it becomes available.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question

I’m going to ignore the obvious careless with balls joke, but does anyone know of any internet sites that carry the game broadcasts for free? I teach, and I can’t get anything that requires a subscription to come through school filters.

Btw, about Tejada: when we were tossing around the idea of trading for him way back when and discussing it here, I remember making the statement that it was possible he could be older than he said (I had read a blog from ESPN where the writer had made that speculation) and I was soundly criticized for making a baseless claim. I got a chuckle out of hearing that yesterday.

by JDay on Apr 18, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad you ignored my attempt at humor. I would've done the same.

So your school filters subscription sites but not sites that illegally stream ballgames? Well I know someone posted these links last week and I’m not really sure how useful they are, let alone if they even have cubs games, but I copied them anyways. I used to use GameMix to watch the games online for free but I think that site got shut down and I don’t remember the link for it. I’m sure some other ppl may be able to help you though. Anyways, here they are:

http://www1.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

and one of these players:
http://www.sopcast.com/
http://tvants.en.softonic.com/download

with the exception of one, which I found here by locating a CSN stream here:
http://www.watvon.com/

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I wasn't sure it was intentional

But props for wording AND subtlety.

You wouldn’t believe the things this filter will block or ignore. At one point it was impossible to do a google search for anything (which is great for education), but students could log on to “swim suit” Web sites (There were swimsuits. They were tiny, but there were swim suits).

I noticed upon further look at mlb’s game center that they probably have all radio outlets covered by an agreement, so I guess I’ll stick with following gameday live or whatever it’s called. Thanks, though.

by JDay on Apr 18, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A feed out of Minnesota

of Pat and Ron kicks in around 2pm I believe. It can be heard on www.660wbhr.com

Kinda sorta an oaky afterbirth.

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 18, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ex Cubs last night ( good and bad)

Poor Glenden Rusch ended up as the losing pitcher in the 22 inning
Padres/Rockies game which is too bad as he pitched well and the run
was unearned. Cubs fan favorite Kyle Farnsworth continued to gain
admiration from the baseball world by throwing at Manny’s head after he hit two home runs against the Yankees last night. Peter Gammons said it was
just ” Farnsworth being Farnsworth” and hopes he gets suspended.

Maddux has flipped a with Chris Young as starts tonight. I don’t like this
as he gets a VERY exhausted Padres line up which did not hit last night anyway and I especially don’t like because it now means he should pitch in the May series ( Ok so I just root for unearned runs and a bad
Padre bullpen)

Some rotation info for those who may not look ahead. No Santana vs the Cubs but Z vs Mets ( Monday).
Of course the schedule made by monkees ( yes I know I insulted monkees ) has the Cubs go to Colorado for two games then fly to DC.
Gee not like the Cubs could have just played an EAST coast team before DC and the Rockies as part of trip vs Astros, D’backs or another west coast team cause that would be too damn logical.

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SWL, Jr.?

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bunting photos

Am I the only one who can’t even tell whose bunting in those pictures? Al how did you even figure that one out?

by ak123 on Apr 18, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering that myself...

Wishful thinking?

"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry

by Bump Bailey on Apr 18, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The LH batter is clearly Pie...

by process of elimination:

Fontenot is white.
Fukudome is Japanese.
Ward is… larger.
Patterson is shorter.

I agree that it’s harder to tell on the RH batter. But again, you can rule out a lot of players:

Theriot has more hair.
Lee is much taller (and wouldn’t practice bunting).
Ramirez is taller (and wouldn’t practice bunting).
Soto is stockier.
Johnson wears high socks.
Blanco is stockier and has more hair.
DeRosa is stockier.

Given the process of elimination and the context clues, it’s Cedeno and Pie.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured out Pie by...

...the high socks and super-skinny calfs. Why I remember these things I’ll never know. I had no idea, however, that the other picture was Cedeno. – TL

by timlacy on Apr 18, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs Webcam...

What is the URL for the webcam?

So I jumped ship in Hong Kong...

by Ryetronics on Apr 18, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This link will get you started

WebCam

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Apr 18, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill has options?

I thought he was out.

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't help passing this along...

...whenever this issue comes up. The guys at the The Cub Reporter have created a handy 40-man roster chart, which, among other things, tracks a player’s options.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lineups

Patterson
Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Fukudome
DeRosa
Soto
Johnson, R
Hill

by Unique on Apr 18, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, so Patterson gets to start...

...and Pie doesn’t. And Lou is really throwing Patterson into the fire by batting him lead off. This should be interesting.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad we did't have this lineup yesterday

Could’ve had a matchup of patterson leadoff batters. No real reason other than that’d be cool to see.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 18, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, hopefully Patterson does something productive...

I’m not sure why Piniella is putting Patterson at the top and not a good OBP guy. But, let’s hope for the best.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

Because he is left handed and fast. That was the reason for Fontenot up there I would assume. Its one of those things Lou likes.

by okiecubbie on Apr 18, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson's best skill is OBP.

Looking at both his stats and his scouting reports, Patterson’s got great patience and plate discipline. Sure, we have guys likely to post a higher OBP – but teams aren’t going to bat guys like Lee leadoff, and Fukudome seems to have caught on as a middle-of-the-order run producer.

by cwyers on Apr 18, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I can definitely see the logic in wanting Dome to lead off, but he really seems to be thriving in that five hole (uh, last night’s game notwithstanding).

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree...

Patterson’s best skill is his speed. He’s only decent in terms of patience and OBP. Plus, he’s shown nothing at the big league level (albeit that’s due to not having the chance). Conversely, Reed Johnson (who is batting 8th), has at least shown the proclivity to get walks at a reasonable pace at the big league level.

Not saying that Patterson can’t be a decent OBP guy. I’m just saying it seems strange to put him leadoff over a guy like Johnson, who’s shown solid OBP skill at the big league level (and a slightly better OBP at the minor league level).

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point, too.

And if Lou’s going to start Johnson over Pie, why not go all out and put him at the top of the order?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnson's OBP projbects to be lower than Patterson's...

...although there’s probably a part effect involved there. Johnson hits lefties well; against righties Johnson has hit .269/.329/.384 in his career versus .308/.372/.459 against lefties. So essentially his platoon differential is the difference between being Fukudome and Theriot.

Given the platoon advantage, Patterson is probably going to be more productive than Johnson against righthanded hitters.

by cwyers on Apr 18, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect...

projections based on one player who has done something in the majors and one player who hasn’t is kind of silly. There’s a lot more variability in MLB performance among players with no MLB experience than among players with Johnson’s level of experience.

Until you know what you’re really likely to get with Patterson, it doesn’t make sense to bat him leadoff.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody has to hit leadoff...

...and if your options are Ryan Theriot, Reed Johnson and Eric Patterson, I don’t see where Patterson is that much worse than Theriot or Johnson against right-handed pitching. If we were introducing a real OBP threat like DeRosa into the conversation, then maybe you’ve got something here.

by cwyers on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference is...

that you know what you’re getting with Johnson. Same with Theriot, although one would argue that you know what you’re getting shouldn’t be batting high in the order. With Patterson, you just have no idea.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather go with the uncertainty.

I would argue that for both of them, you know that what you’re getting doesn’t belong in the leadoff spot against right-handed pitching. At least there’s a chance that Patterson doesn’t suck.

by cwyers on Apr 18, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree to disagree...

as this is a philosophical argument on risk aversion.

by SouthernCub on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Theriot hitting 2nd..

...and Reed is hitting 8th? Other than that, I’m ok with this lineup.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked at Theriot against Snell

he’s 4-11 and has the highest OBP against him on the team and Reed has never faced Snell. I guess that’s why.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did the Cbs face Snell

When they swept them last week? Don’t think so.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't think so

thanks

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what's the wind up to over by the lake??

Appears to be blowing from R to L—speed?? Anyone? Bueller? lol COME ON RICH HILL show us something

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big big big outing for Hill

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

feeling good about this one.....

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too actually.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope we get it in before the rains come.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oyyy boyyy rain really?

I was hoping the Cubs could pour it on in Runs cuz I got a bunch of stuff (day drinking) I got to do today…...pleas no rain…

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The radar sir....it appears to have been.....

Jammed!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it strawberry?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raspberry!....nobody give me the raspberry....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PARTY TIIIIME!

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel good about this one boys...

prediction…. cubs 7 pirates of the caribbean.. 2

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no way!

I need at least 10

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

9-3 would be nice.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My First Post!!

Tim McCarver said, as they showed Ichiro watch Bernie's homer: "Ichiro, like Knoblauch who watched Boone's homerun, both short."

by MintSkoal on Apr 18, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've stated this opinion in other threads but I'll say it again

Patterson won’t be going back to Iowa this year.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed Sir

Boom Shakalaka, E Pat is da man

by sillybilly34 on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least Rich...

is throwin in the 90’s…
signed,
Ted Lilly

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

But that was wild

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright lets do this

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BB

Booooooo

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lead off walk for our left handed head case

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That headcase just struck out the second hitter

get off the ledge

Hey whens the Bears game?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG give him the Cy Young

sample size kid

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SAMPLE SIZE YOURSELF

1st hitter walks and you calling for his head

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, don't see where I'm calling for his head

Just pointing out the obvious that he’s a mental midget.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you too must have a lot in common

leming, sheep…..

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just admit you have a crush on me

and we can move on.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

youre a bad kind of Cub fan

I have a crush on you.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's starting up again because Al isn't here

I must have hit a nerve the other day.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh

because Als not here? What he going to do send me to my room?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we like leadoff walks?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, sir.

We do not.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love em...

crap, has the game started?

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill's release point...

...is an absolute mess.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi

by ilovepie on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats for lunch? I'm hungery.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maidrites

I make good ones.

by sue369 on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"sloppy joe"

to the rest of the world, but iowa calls it a maidrite.

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

Mmm maidrite…love it, the next day HATE IT

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's loose

ground beef and I use a special seasoning.

by sue369 on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAH

I’ve been thinking of maderites for a month! I couldnt remember what Wisc and Iowa called sloppy joes hahahaha Thanks!

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been arguing for a month with someone at work

and I couldnt remember what they were called. We ate Maderites at the green bay v s NY Giabnts game and I saw so hammered I couldnt remember what they were calling them hahaha

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maidrites?

mmm… sounds good and you have totally proved your worth as an Iowan.

Maidrites are to Iowa as Hotdish is to Minnesota.

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich must have had dinner with...

Volquez last night

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Where O Where

Has Rich Hill gone, Oh Where O Where can he be…I’ve searched high and low

by sillybilly34 on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if only Rich had a change up

sigh

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bender's working

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Strike out!

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Might as well get this out of the way now.

Who’s the long man today? Sean Marshall?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Atta Kid Richie

Looking like Richie Rich now baby!!!

by sillybilly34 on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DLee is watching you guys today,

and he says to quit picking on his homey, Richie the Kid

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Loosk more like he's

dropping a duece.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO...

Pathetic, maybe. Hilarious? Absolutely.

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice computer.

17” MBP here!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha nice

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant...

mysterious

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks ok

if he can get his command under control…I like his velocity and his release point

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well which is it?

“lead off walk for our left handed head case “

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask me again after the 5th inning

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mclouth

YOU ARE NOTHING!!!

by sillybilly34 on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I"M GOING TO THE BOATS....

peace amigos…

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Catch Ya

In a while crocodile

by sillybilly34 on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 outs

come on Rich get that 3rd out

by sue369 on Apr 18, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

horrible slide....ouch

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i've seen better slides...

in a 2nd grade power pt presentation

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was this

at a magnet school?

FU-KU-DOH-MEH! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!!!!

by tony412 on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody watch MadTV?

Does Snell look like Jordan Peele from MadTV in his gameday picture or is it just me?

by McRipper on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

K for Korey

I mean Eric

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does

Paulino look extremely fat behind the plate?

Tim McCarver said, as they showed Ichiro watch Bernie's homer: "Ichiro, like Knoblauch who watched Boone's homerun, both short."

by MintSkoal on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its not you

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's your widescreen

...that and all the maidrites sue feeds him!

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

single for theriot

5-12 career against Snell

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

theres a base knock...

alright here we go.

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

base hit for ARAM 1st and 3rd

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

here we go Dome........

Bring the riot home…

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FU KU DOME

clap – clap – clap clap clap

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just gonna comlain

about Theriot not stealing…let’s get agressive!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

with 2 outs and

a slugger at the plate… no steal. He scores on a double from first no prob

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should have stole when Lee was up then

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Lee swung early though

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this happened last night as well

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're probably right...

but he also scores from 2nd on a single…down in the count, give it a shot…get thrown out, Rammy gets a fresh count in the second…just saying

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RUNS RUNS RUNS!!!! I WANT RUNS!

And I want one of Sue’s Maidrites.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I do too....excpet I dont know what one is...

...but it sounds good.

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can make them if you

follow the instructions.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw man... how about a photo??

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not

how I make maidrites. I brown hamburger and season it with beef bouillon granules. After the ground beef if browned drain off the grease and serve on a bun with your favorite condiments. Very tasty.

by sue369 on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhh! Tasty!

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome

pop out. bummer

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a phrase you hardly ever hear.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling Extra Innings again

... this game.

If you play Defender I could be your hyper-space.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Guzman

What’s his deal? I never heard anything about him.

by dr stabbingworth on Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

throwing long toss

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

don’t expect to see him this year.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That way, when we see him, you'll be surprised!

(Probably not though.)

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no chance to get him

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter would have got him...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter would have got him...

and then somehow ended up diving into the seats beyond 3rd base. MY HERO lol

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brenly...

“Theriot lately having a hard time keeping his feet underneath him.”

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Hill decided to bring...

Uncle Charlie with him today.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

aggressive baserunning…nicely done, Bucos!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong forum

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for sure

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kidding people!

just commenting based on the above post about base stealing strategy

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here ya go.
Bucs Dugout!!!!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

teehee

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates fever...

catch it.

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-1 pirates

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1-0 Pirates

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Followed by a basehit!

nice gameplan!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jeez....it's 5 o'clock somewhere

right? opens beer

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Next AB By Bay

Plunk him…that should cool him off.

by SecondSon on Apr 18, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Plunk Nady

where’s Farnsworth when you need him? lol

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Threw Behind Manny

last night…or you probably meant that!

by SecondSon on Apr 18, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bucos are sitting...

on that off speed stuff. But one good one will put SNell away

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Len just jinxed Hill

Guarranteed hit coming up.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Told ya

double off the wall

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone have Rich's pitch count handy?

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

36

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TY

n/t

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

Double off top of wall. 2nd and 3rd . Pitcher snell up

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill is looking horrible..

You can almost predict when he is going to throw his curve.

by cubsnlinux on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Boys better

hit today!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strike out

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill K's Snell

inning over. Limped off the mound.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolled

his left ankle on that last pitch…

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

not serious.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awwww

They started without me! Oh well…. :) Lets get some runs!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on Apr 18, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

leadoff double for DERO!!!!

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Double for DeRo

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dero

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto doesn't advance runner

6-3

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He did hit it hard though.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Roberts would have made it to 3rd...

standing up.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Roberts

would have grounded oput the way he’s hitting this week.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He won the game in Baltimore last night

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats true

I have him on all my fantasy teams and he’s 3/16 with NO stolen bases….

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this week

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad AB By Soto

Hit it to the right side!!

by SecondSon on Apr 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great point

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to advance the runner

Baseball fundamentals…...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on Apr 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto is in there to drive in the runs

not move him over

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone

should be able to get it done!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was in scoring position

Soto can hit the ball hard. He was there to drive in the run

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

COuld hit it hard

to right or right center too, right?

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends On The Situation

With Hill scuffling of late and Snell a tough customer, you need to be advancing the runner there.

by SecondSon on Apr 18, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he hit a homer

or hit a single no one would have said anything. well obviously

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soto needed to move him over

man at 3rd and only 1 out and he scores on sac fly

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

than Lou would have just had him bunt

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's bad baseball to make an out to 3rd with a man on 2nd

and nobody out. He can drive him in to RF too and if he doesn’t get a hit, he atleast drives him in. It’s obvious.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now-adays..

No one plays small ball till about the 7th inning or so…IMHO

"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry

by Bump Bailey on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless you're dusty baker

there’s a difference in going the other way and giving up an out…..because obviously you have a chance to get a base hit and just giving away an out by sacrificing.

Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen

by lemon20pie on Apr 18, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see it both ways

Because it’s early in the game and we can hit Snell, It was probably a good call. I’m just always about fundamentals…. get people in a position to score. Rather see a runner on third with 1 out then stranded at second because we can’t get the ball out of the infield.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on Apr 18, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

been drummed into my head since i could pick up a bat….advance the runner..

"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry

by Bump Bailey on Apr 18, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as Joe Morgan:

You have to execute in order to have execution

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Morgan

....or John Madden

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on Apr 18, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Rich Hill

still swing worse than the girls in my high school gym class?

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Apr 18, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

confirmed

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yep.

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wiffle/Baseball units

were the ONLY time I excelled at anything in gym.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. -- Dave Barry

by bluebythebook on Apr 18, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shhh he's taking his afternoon nap in the dugout.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOB

It’s a scary stat.

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know we were leading the league at the beginning of the week.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Apr 18, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy Cedeno

Marissa Miller…

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on Apr 18, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dempster

U pimp

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Explain....?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He caught the ceremonial first pitch...

and then got a big hug from a Vic Secret swim model

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 18, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

REED! WOOHOO

Nice catch

SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!

by Keystone80435 on Apr 18, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marissa Miller...

first pitch bikini babe…why didn’t they make her throw it while wearing the bikini?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs