Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Saturday 4/19, 12:05 CT
by Al on Apr 19, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Pittsburgh Pirates at Chicago Cubs, Apr 19, 2008 12:05 PM CDT
Reds broadcaster Marty Brennaman is unrepentant:
"It may have been over the top," Brennaman said. "The only qualifier I will offer is that to the true Cub fans I apologize to them because I know there are great fans in the town. What I witnessed the other night -- that's the only ballpark in baseball you would see people throw 15-20 freaking baseballs on to a field, which I think is a total disrespect to the game.
"I understand all these fans are all upset. Half of them are probably brain dead to begin with. If they can't understand that what happened Wednesday night is completely over the top and out of line, then I'm sorry.
"I think what I said about how tough it is to root for the Cubs is something that a lot of people, those that didn't grow up to be Cub fans, feel the same way I do, but they don't want to articulate it. I'm not afraid to say what I think."
Sure, Marty. So NOW you say there are great Cubs fans? That's not what you said on the air Wednesday night:
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose," Brennaman said on his Reds broadcast at the time, adding that Cubs fans are "far and away the most obnoxious fans in baseball in this league."
At the very least, Marty, admit that your hatred toward Chicago and Cubs fans is based on the fact that you think the Cubs "mistreated" your son, which is pretty far from what actually happened. The Cubs didn't want Thom to split work between WGN and Fox. He wasn't fired -- he went out and found his own gig in Arizona, where they allowed him to work for Fox. For Marty to hold that against the Cubs and Cub fans is petulant, childish and unprofessional. Time for you to retire.
In actual baseball news, Reed Johnson will be leading off today -- and maybe for a while. As long as he stays hot, why not?
Eric Patterson promises he'll show up on time for games. No, really:
This time around, the 25-year-old, who was called up Wednesday, has a master plan to combat any possible tardiness.
"Yeah, get about four or five alarm clocks and make sure they get set," he said with a laugh. "It's a mistake that happened and last year's in the past and this year you learn from it and don't let it happen again."
Matt Murton has apparently been called up -- there's no official confirmation yet on the Cubs website, nor any word on who's headed back to Iowa as a result.
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The Cubs beat the daylights out of Gorzelanny in the Pirates' home opener 12 days ago, but had to go to extra innings to win the game. Ronny Cedeno had a three-run double; maybe he'll get the start today.
Jason Marquis suffered a similar beating at the hands of the Pirates last September 21, but the Cubs also won that game. In fact, the Cubs have now won seven straight games against the Pirates. Jason Bay is a particular Marquis nemesis (13-for-34, 4 doubles, a triple, 4 HR, 5 walks). Marquis has handled the rest of the current Pirates pretty well, except for Nate McLouth (4-for-11, a HR).
Today's game is on cable in the Pittsburgh and Chicago areas. Unfortunately, with the Fox Saturday blackouts, that's about it for TV coverage. For other information check today's MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
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I just wanted to be the first. Hope it works out that way.
:-)
by zevkalman on Apr 19, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The more Marty talks...
..the dumber he sounds. When you paint everyone with a broad brush and include half a dozen insults your the one who is disrespectful and obnoxious.
He has fallen to the level of the clowns who threw the balls on the field.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 19, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. But I'm starting to think there's a bit of jealousy around the league.
Cub fans are very passionate, and a lot of things (WGN, Bleacher Bums, Center-Field Camera, Seventh-Inning Stretch guests, Wrigley Field charm, Bartman, Billy Goat Curse, Fukudome, etc.) provide the Cubs with a “branding” that is unique. Even Hollywood seems to like the Cubs :-).
Methinks everyone in the NL is jealous. The AL have their own demons (Bosox and Yanks).
by zevkalman on Apr 19, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Center field camera?
I trust you mean ‘GN originated it? (They did, in fact.) From what I see, every major league telecast now has at least one.
by MN exile on Apr 19, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably
hears the Reds players complain that it is harder for them to play the Cubs in Cincy because the Cubs fans outnumber the Reds fans. They say it feels like a road game…..poor Marty.
by crazymountain on Apr 19, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Someone needs to tell Marty that it’s better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna start heading over....
but im seeing 90% chance of rain on some random websites can anyone confirm its most likely going to rain out?
My 08 Cubs record 3-0
Updated April 16th
by Rudey on Apr 19, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
50% chance of scattered showers
..current radar looks fine
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 19, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux bit the bullett last night
The Padres used everyone in their bullpen Thursday night in that 22 inning game in Colorado, so the Padres needed innings out of Maddux last night. He had nothing and got shelled for 6 first inning runs but yet refused to come out of the game and sacrificed his personal stats for the overall need of the team.
Another selfless note from that game that you won’t see on ESPN, is Connor Jackson strode to the plate in the 6th inning a double shy of the cycle. He hit a shot to straight away CF that hit off the top of Edmonds glove and he ran hard from the onset out of the box and could’ve easily stood up at 2nd and collect his first career cycle, but hustled all the way and slid in just before the tag for his 2nd triple.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Gotta respect a guy like that.
I hope others (Sori, Rammy, etc.) would do likewise.
by zevkalman on Apr 19, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you should say that,
Seeing as Soriano and Ramirez led the team in triples last season.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually BBTN did a nice piece on both those events last night...
...which is nice to see, becuase both events were totally selfless in baseball sense.
Classic Maddux
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 19, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classic Maddux is right
Did they. I missed BBTN last night so that’s nice to see that they did discuss it. Usually if it’s not a “web gem” nominee or a HR, they usually don’t discuss stuff like that. I saw ESPN this morning and no mention of it, so I ASSumed.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything that I love about baseball
is personified by Maddux; class, professionalism-the team always comes first. I wish he could pitch forever.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 19, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was yesterday
but Skilling said that there would be scattered showers most of the day. They should get this game in, but probably not without any delays.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I saw was the highlights
but Edmonds looked foolish on a number of those balls hit toward center. It looked like he took the wrong line to a number of them.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hits and RUns prediction for today's game
I feel better than usual about today’s game:
Cubs 12 Hits 6 Runs
Pirates 8 Hits 3 Runs
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's talk about the game between the lines instead of the destractions by those 'self-important' experts in the media
Get it.
No need to go further even with Piniella’s comments which were dead on.
Now the game, the Cubs won yesterday with pitching, defense and speed. Pitching-—Hill, Lieber, Marshall (who ironically is looking good in his spots), Marmol and of course—“6 Pitches” Woodie!
Right now Piniella is riding his bullpen as he tries to get right last year’s stalwart Lefties.
More importantly Cubs also won on defense with plays made by Johnson (what FA wire pick up) and Lee but also on speed for Patterson beat out the DP attempt to score the winning run.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Apr 19, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Reed Johnson hitting leadoff.
This is going to be very interesting to see how he does while Soriano is out.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson...
...is going to give you everything he has in the tank, plus a little bit more, which is why I like the guy so much. This is why I said the loss of Soriano wouldn’t hurt the Cubs, because they can get good production out of guys like Johnson (for 2-3 weeks), because he will be pumped to show what he can do. It won’t last forever, but you milk it for what you can.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 19, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
Soriano is a notorious slow-starter anyway (much more so this year obviously) and usually heats up as the weather heats up. If he’s going to back in May when the weather is getting nice, hopefully he’ll really be able to break out of it. But as much as I was a “Let Pie play” advocate at the beginning of the season, the more I see of Johnson, the more I am convinced that he is the everday center fielder. I like Felix too, but he just has not produced the way Johnson has, and Lou is all about playing the hot hand.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game will be televised nationally on NHK
... but not live – the program will be starting at 9AM tomorrow – your 7PM.
BTW both Cubs (w/ Dome) and Dragons (w/o Dome) are doing well this April – Cubs is 10-6 and Dragons is 11-6.
We Dragons purchased one free agent outfielder, Kazuhiro Wada, who bats very uniquely and lifetime average is ranked 8th all time in NPB, and he makes a lot of RBIs at 5th spot. However his fielding is nothing compared to Dome…. our team ERA is only 2.12 and that’s why we are winning without Dome…
Good night guys and hope I will find a W flag on the overflow thread tomorrow morning…
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why can't I think of the MLBer...
...who’s stance that reminds me of?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 19, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about this one
Wada’s homer – off a Dragons setup man at that time….
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part of that was the fan throwing the ball back!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Apr 19, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember Tony Batista?
It’s the closest I can think of, although Batista’s stance wasn’t as feminine as Wada’s.
:)
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi
by ilovepie on Apr 19, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Batista
This is one of the most famous YouTube footage for Tony Batista when he played for Hawks in Japan….
Enjoy and good night….
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too funny!
I’d run away too..lol..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
verry funny
I’ve never watched Japanese baseball. Are there occasional fights over there between pitchers/batters or between the clubs, like here?
by Ilan on Apr 19, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't sleep well tonight...
Answer is yes, but unfortunately, i believe foreign players (mostly Americans) are involved in more than half of them, like this...
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better YouTube footage
including some famous fights in NPB history....
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another funny baseball footage...
Enjoy....
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 19, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious!
You da man, dragons.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Apr 19, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Tony Bautista?
Eric Davis had slightly similar stance, as well.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It reminds me...
... of Sadaharu Oh’s stance, but the stride is a little more exaggerated.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on Apr 19, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patterson
sent down, Murton Called up, according to Bruce Levine, ESPN
by china423 on Apr 19, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
...what a worthless trip for Patterson.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 19, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not content
with ruining Pie’s confidence, they’ve decided to toy with Patterson’s now, as well. This seems like a really odd move, unless Lou’s wanting to move Derosa back to 2B.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully....
he at least is racking up the frequent flyer miles. : )
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least he got his first ML basehit....and steal for that matter.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would we send down Patterson for Murton?
by Reed's Johnson on Apr 19, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who knows
What I don’t understand is why even bother bringing up Patterson in the first place to only send himdown 2 days later? Did he peez someone off again? Most of us thought that Murton should’ve been called up in the first place but it’s kind of scary when you have actual Manangement realizing this 2 day’s after their initial move, which seems to be the case here to me.
As far as it goes, it does make sense to have Murton up and not patterson becaue Patterson apparently was neve considered to be an OF and was basically another Middle Infielder.Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 lefty starters coming up
That’s probably why the Murton/Patterson flip. Murton may get a start or two.
by rlpete on Apr 19, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I considered that rlpete
but it still doesn’t make sense. You just don’t send players up and down due to opposing pitchers. could’ve started Cedeno at 2nd and Derosa in LF and have Patterson come off the bench.
After the 2 lefties the Cubs I’m pretty sure will face 3 Righties, so since you can’t call patterson up for another 10 days minimum, do they call up another Lefty?
It doesn't make sense to me. Whatever, I think this was the right move to begin with, I just can't understand why it wasn't made in the first place. Anyway, onward.Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any idea why it keeps giving me that grey continuous bar???
Annyoing.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I believe so
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
It may also be that after a few games Piniella decided DeRosa in LF wasn’t a good idea so he decided to go back to Murton. Murton isn’t great but he might be better in LF than DeRosa. Patterson hasn’t been playing OF in AAA.
I just don’t think there are ulterior motives like teaching lessons as some have posted. Piniella really seems to be trying to win every game (see the bullpen usage) so he must think this is a better move now. I trust him.
by rlpete on Apr 19, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes no sense at all
I love in the dugout, and Hendry has done more good then bad, but their handling of this situation has been horrible.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 19, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't read all of your post...
I wonder if all this was some kind of message to Murton? To humble him in some way? Just throwing that out there…I can see no reason to bring someone up and then almost immediately send him back down again…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We do not know the full story....
Could be that some team would like to see (scout) Murton or wanted to scout Patterson, or that Patterson did something or simply he went 0-6 with one RBI ( a thankful beat out of a FC), who knows, but the reality is on the surface possibly DeRosa doesn’t like playing the OF regularly or possibly Piniella see’s more of an advantage with DeRosa at 2B defensively and Murton in LF or he feels maybe Pie has finally got it….who knows.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Apr 19, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw an interview with lou
where he said the reason for the move was because they feel more comfortable with Murton coming off the bench. Still doesn’t make a lot of sense that they wouldn’t have just brought him up in the first place though.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 19, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs line up - No Murton
R. Johnson cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .375
R. Theriot ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288
D. Lee 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .357
A. Ramirez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
K. Fukudome rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .317
M. DeRosa lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321
G. Soto c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288
R. Cedeno 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273
J. Marquis p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So much for my idea
of wanting DeRosa back at 2nd.
by rlpete on Apr 19, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine that this will be the line up
against lefties everytime. If so, then I totally give up trying to figure out what this team is thinking.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than Ramirez
those averages look pretty good.
by rlpete on Apr 19, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a breather....
for DeRo I would think….and also Cedeno has hit Gorzelanny pretty well. I’d rather see him at short though…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would too
Theriot is 1-9 against Gorzellany. Small sample size I know.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should add...
that I still think shortstop is our biggest weakness. I’m so tired of TheRiot and his scrappy act thing…..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense
His fielding is what has really been bad lately. His approach at the plate has looked much better, but his lack of range is really hurting the team up the middle
by okiecubbie on Apr 19, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone should
duct tape Brennaman’s mouth shut. What an ass.
Hope Matt gets in the game today.
by sue369 on Apr 19, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is an ass
but atleast you can hear that ass. Thanks to Bud I have to watch the game on Gameday.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would
suck. I really think all of this will motivate our team to just kick the snot out of the Reds when we play them.
by sue369 on Apr 19, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not talking about what happened is he?
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was referring to Thom, who I am assuming is doing the Cubs game.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking
about Marty in my first post referring to his comments that Al posted in this thread.
by sue369 on Apr 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotcha
For some reason I thought this game was on FOX and you were talking about Marty’s son, Ass JR who does FOX Saturday games….sorry ‘bout the confusion.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Fitting
are Bud Selig’s initials?
by SecondSon on Apr 19, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Onedec
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DEEEEEEEE-LEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
What a smash.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
number 7 already..wow
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DLee with a low, whistling HR to left
Solid.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D-LEE!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a good AB
for Rammy. Might need a day off.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wut up wit Aram??
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems a bit off at the plate.
I really think Lou might just need to give him a day off
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day off
good idea. As long as his shoulder isn’t bothering him still and he’ll need to go to the 15 day DL soon too.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cedeno has a nice day today
I could see Lou maybe riding Cedeno another game at 2nd and Derosa at 3rd and Murton in LF and give Aram that day off you suggested.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant tomorrow.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
Cedeno at short, DeRosa at 3rd. and Fontenot at 2nd. I think Fontenot hits lefty’s pretty good..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small Sample Size Alert!
But in 56 career AB vs. LHP, Fontenot is hitting .214/.270/.321/.591 Pretty paltry numbers, but an admittedly small sample.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's the weather looking?
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't quite get a first pitch strike this inning.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this game on WGN?
....stuck at work
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Lou In Blue on Apr 19, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
n/m
read the thread….
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Lou In Blue on Apr 19, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Lebron with 1 of the 5 best dunks
I’ve ever seen.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone say...
HANGOVER!
SOMEONE SHOOT THAT DAMN PARROT!!!
by Keystone80435 on Apr 19, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right there with you.....
n/t
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Lou In Blue on Apr 19, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SOTO!!
n/t
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Lou In Blue on Apr 19, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Go Geo Soto!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 19, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed Walks
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Apr 19, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets go Riot!
Need a double down the line here
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by Lou In Blue on Apr 19, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how was sotos double???
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thing of beauty. right down the 3b line
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 19, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grounder just fair
Down the 3rd base line into the bullpen.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Apr 19, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis is
getting the ball down. Looking solid.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Apr 19, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not a good way to start
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why isnt the game on wgn radio?
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 19, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is.
I’m listening to it now.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get it on the internet for some reason. Some talk show's on instead.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 19, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WGN doesn't broadcast games on the internet
you have to buy MLB Audio
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Apr 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think they're allowed to internet stream it
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok thanks.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 19, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay pops out
two out runner on 1st
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Apr 19, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marquis!!
Looking good. He’s all about hitting his spots—those spots being down in the zone.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good inning for Marquis...
WOuld really like him to go 6 or us have a huge lead so we dont have to tax the BP too much
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by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday 2008
I know one time Al said he didn’t like the 2008 version, but the COOL thing is that about 2 minutes after a scoring play happens, they have video footage that you can access. Just click on scoring plays and the blue link…I’m sure many of you knew that, but just in case…
by CubbiesinColorado on Apr 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish DLEE
would hit more homeruns
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Apr 19, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You HAVE to be kidding
He leads the majors so far this season.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
giggidy giggidy
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
May be a short day
for Gorzelanny…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMMMmmmmm he is meat today....
signed,
Prince Fielder
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, this is just too fun.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A no stress victory
would be awful nice.
by californiachicagoan on Apr 19, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bautista
totally asleep at 3B on that play. Nice to see the Cubs being aggressive on the basepaths
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
on Gameday
Dero hasn’t been given a stolen base, anybody know why not? or is gameday incorrect there?
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 19, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Error on the throw of course...
but his steal of 2nd could be fielder’s indifference?????
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
6-0
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll day drink ....
to that!! Thank god i’m Irish
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gorzelanny
looks done.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some dumbass
just threw beer at the righ fielder. Why do they do that stuff?
by sue369 on Apr 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because they are dumbasses.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good AB Ronny
more like awesome AB!!!!!!
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well stated
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha...
I could go for a Guiness mysefl..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
7-0
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason helping his own cause!
Nice AB’s by Ronny and Jason.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MARQUIS!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH
I LOVE WHEN WE SPANK THE PIRATES!!!!!
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 19, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hot Damn
We own Gorzelanny..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
He handled the Cubs pretty well in his first couple of starts against them, but they’ve hit him hard since, especially this season.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that
both Marquis and Z both can hit the ball.
by sue369 on Apr 19, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Z have a game this season
where he went 2 for 3 w/ a walk? Awesome.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-4 with a double
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 19, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis and Z...
n/m sue beat me to it
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm half in the bag...
so I guess I’ll take the compliment. Slainte’
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little deja vu here
with a 7 nothing lead. Here’s to hoping we don’t need extras this time around.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 19, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My crystal ball says....
no chance. And my crystal ball doesn’t lie
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said the same thing
about my magic 8-ball.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 19, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ magic 8 ball...
I said ‘crystal’ ball not something you find at a garage sale….. given to me by some weird old socrates type dude in undergrad. He might have been Gandolf the White.. i’m still not sure. I was into some heavy things back then. lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good pitch.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 in the well....
1 to push in
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by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do these maple bats really give a hitter
an advantage? Seems like they can just as easily turn a bloop single into a soft infield out like that weak liner to 2nd when they break.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the advantage..
was that they didn’t break very easily…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Len and Bob earlier in the game,
they break more easily.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
didn’t know that…thought I heard Bonds talking about them one time and saying his didn’t break as much as the ash bats….I dunno…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not smart enough to use the Link button, apparently.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070516202033AAAIkKj&;show=7
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...that makes sense..
Maple is harder, but the players shave the handles down, so they’re top heavy…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I found another article that says it's because
of the hardness of the maple as well as the narrow handles. The harder a wood is, the MORE likely it is to break because it can’t bend like softer wood. Hard AND brittle.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that...
but they taste delicious with some pancakes and bacon.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
somone call this guy a cab.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
it’s 5 o’clock somewhere… .it has to be. Its already 2morrow in Australia
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you say so...
all right, chi-townbleacherbum, you’re a cab.
by jeffduarte on Apr 19, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be the worse cabby ever...
I’d just drive people to the El. I hate traffic
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monday night game
is at 6:05…hour earlier for ESPN…
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is so glad...
we’re not facing Johan carlos santana featuring wicked change ups and a nasty cutter. 10 k’s last night? ouch
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo has been really good
Like him a lot… Glad we didnt get that oriole player
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
b roberts...
is 3 for 12 this week. with 1 rbi. too much good stuff? lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait...
i’m way off. those are just my fanasy stats. inserts foot in mouth
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitley worth the farm system.
Or not….
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derosa needs to go back to 2B.
His defense in LF leaves much to be desired.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I agree.
I was just wondering now what to do with Fontenot. He doesn’t seem to be as necessary anymore.
by zevkalman on Apr 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just doesn't look comfortable out there....
see also… Chris Duncan, Barry Bonds, Adam Dunn, Ryan Braun, et al
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But those guys are bad defensive ballplayers, no matter where you put them.
Derosa is a pretty good defensive 2B and 3B and he’s not too bad in RF, but LF has not been kind to him thus far.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
touchez
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds excepted that is.
Until his knees got balky and he got huge, Bonds was an solid defensive outfielder
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea good pt. from here on out...
just assume everything i say is either wrong or sarcastic. But as for Bonds… his head grew too large to be able to fit in LF, hence his inability to sign with a new team
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was outstanding..
With the Pirates..
"The good lord wants the Cubs to win" - Harry
by Bump Bailey on Apr 19, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can i get a pitch count on Marquis plz?
I stopped keeping track after the 4 runs we scored in the bottom of the 3rd
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
83
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
55 strikes
28 balls
"Hey Chicago what do you say the Cubs are gonna win today"
by fischisgod on Apr 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
83
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice snag by Dome!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he is making every other ....
manager in the league nervous and/or jealous.
Signed,
Jim Henry
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One of these days a fan or player is actually
gonna get killed by one these new brittle bats.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ron's been saying that for a while now.
I think you’re right; someone is going to get injured.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 19, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And word on whether.....
Fuku still ships his bats in from the Land of the Rising Sun?
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those watching on TV
anything wrong with Lee? Why did ward replace him?
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No word yet.
"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen
by BlueSox on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing....just a chance to rest him..
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D Lee is out?
He isnt hurt is he?
by californiachicagoan on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D Lee
is fine. D Ward needs a few more cuts so he can get that elustrious first hit. Also, D Lee had to trim his beard. He will be done by game time tomorrow I heard
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by chi-townbleacherbum on Apr 19, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jumptime!
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Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Apr 19, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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