Open Thread: Cubs vs. Mets, Monday 4/21, 6:05 CT
by Al on Apr 21, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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New York Mets at Chicago Cubs, Apr 21, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
Six O Five. Remember that! If you're going to the game, or tuning it in on TV, if you arrive or turn your TV on at 7, you'll miss an hour of it. The unusual game time is for ESPN, which wants its national Monday night telecast to start at 6 pm CT.
Here's my Q&A with D. J. Short from MetsBlog:
Q: What's up with Pedro? Can the Mets really count on him this year? And what's Plan B if they can't?
A: Well, last week he said he hopes to be back in the rotation by the end of the month. As a show of faith to his word, I am holding my breath until his return. All kidding aside, I'm not very optimistic about him returning before June. Generally, when a Met gets injured, you can tack on about six weeks onto any timetable they give you. I can't say his injury came as a huge surprise to anyone, as he hasn't really contributed to the team on the field in nearly two years. Having a young, durable ace like Johan Santana makes his loss a lot easier to take. I'll put it that way.
Q: In much the same vein, how worried are you about the Mets' offense with guys like Moises Alou and Carlos Delgado either out or not at 100%?
A: Well, if Moises Alou is on the field, as some reports suggest he might be by the end of the week, he will hit. It's just a matter of when he will get hurt next. Carlos Delgado was actually hitting pretty well (although not for power) until the past week or so, but I'm getting closer and closer to thinking he's just never going to be the same hitter again. He has a hip problem which is probably a lot more serious than the team is letting on. If there was one area that I wish the club would have addressed over the off-season, it was for a right-handed backup first baseman, who could also play the outfield. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mets acquired another first baseman at some point this season.
Q: Angel Pagan. For real? This isn't the guy we saw with the Cubs. Can he keep it up?
A: He has a lot to prove to me still. Whether the early season numbers last or not, I have been impressed by his fundamentals, i.e. hitting to the opposite field, baserunning. Willie Randolph has rightfully downplayed a lot of his success thus far, as somewhat as a challenge to Pagan, but also to temper expectations in the case that he comes back to earth, which he is already in the process of doing. Of course, once Alou is back, Pagan is headed to the bench.
Q: Nelson Figueroa starts against the Cubs on Tuesday. He's a great story, but can he maintain this pace all year?
A: Nelson is an easy guy to root for. He certainly makes for a great story of perseverance. On top of all that, he is a Brooklyn native and a Mets fan. You really can't get much better than that. His victory over the Brewers ten days ago was one of my favorite recent Shea moments, but the sample size is just way too small to judge right now. I know the organization is rooting for him, but there's a reason the Mets signed Claudio Vargas as insurance. It seems like teams can't make it though the regular season without eight or nine starting pitchers anymore.
Q: As a Mets fan, how do you feel about this being the last year of Shea Stadium? Will you miss it? And will the hype of this milestone get in the way of what the team is trying to accomplish in 2008?
A: I often hear people say, 'Yeah, it's a dump, but it's our dump.' That's probably accurate. While not the best building to watch a baseball game, the historical relevance of the place -- The Beatles, The '69 Mets (sorry Cubs fans) cannot be denied. But its time has passed.
Citi Field looms pretty large over Shea in left center field. I think it functions as a reminder to the fans, the organization and the players that the team is building towards something better.
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I'm going to try something new here -- and you may have seen it on some of the other SBN sites already. In addition to the pitcher boxes I've been posting for the last couple of years, I'm going to insert these stat lines for today's starting pitchers. Let me know which you like, or whether I should keep both. Eventually, this will allow me to get an automatically posting lineup in game threads. I'll also add the box that you see at the top of this post, to each game thread.
The best thing about Z's line so far this year is -- three walks in 26.2 IP. He's got much better control and command this year; he seems a man on a mission. That's exactly what we need him to be. The three best Mets hitters -- Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran and David Wright -- are a combined 5-for-34 against Z with one HR (by Beltran).
The Cubs beat John Maine twice last year and in those games, scored nine runs off Maine in 7.2 IP. He has never beaten the Cubs in four career appearances (three starts). And those 12 walks in 16.2 IP this season is encouraging, because the newly-patient Cubs have drawn a ton of walks in the last week. The only Cub Maine has had a lot of success against is Alfonso Soriano -- good thing he won't face Maine tonight.
Here's the deal for TV tonight, as I understand it. The game is on WCIU in Chicago, a station you can see if you have signed up for the secret decoder ring. It's also on ESPN. According to a promo they ran on ESPN a couple of days ago, this game will not be blacked out anywhere, including in the Chicago and New York markets. Now, if this doesn't go down this way -- don't blame me, blame Bud Selig or ESPN or someone else. It should be available at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
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I think I still prefer...
...the original version of the “pitcher boxes.” It’s cool to see the players’ pictures. Could you perhaps combine the two, so the original version includes all of the additional stats included in the new version?
I especially like seeing a starting pitcher’s WHIP and BAA, the latter of which isn’t included in either version. I realize combining them would make the overall graphic rather large, but maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad thing.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I may post both, if that works for you.
What say the rest of you?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 21, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like both
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 21, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure. The more info, the better.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both
wasn’t there a poll about this recently? I voted both.
FU-KU-DOH-MEH! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!!!!
by tony412 on Apr 21, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the box scores better...
...but do enjoy looking at the pictures, especially Harang’s, Arroyo’s, and other fugly pitchers.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 21, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, keep both
It’s nice to see how that pitcher has fared against the opponent but also good to see how he’s doing so far this season. The more the merrier….
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." ~Albert Einstein
by Jettero2112 on Apr 21, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kosuke back in the lineup today?
I sure hope so. I’ve had something similar to the cyst he had, and it’s annoying but not painful. And I’m SURE he wants to be out there against some of the best competition in the NL.
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe Lou said he'd be back in the lineup today.
And I hope so, too—I’m jonesin’ for some Dome ABs!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my understanding as well.
I’m bummed that I’ll miss out on Soriano at the Nats game Friday, but at least I get to see Kosuke! knocks on wood.
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small sample size alert!!!
What do we think about Ward getting the start at first today? 3 hits in 4 career at bats, while DLee has yet to get a hit off Maine in 1 career at bat. :)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 21, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only if DLee feels like he maybe needs a night off.
And I REALLY doubt that. ;)
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna have to give D-Lee a night off sometime.
Might as well be the game when Daryle is 3 for 4 against the opposing pitcher.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way DLee gets a night off against the New York Mets.
Let him rest against the Nats, if need be.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noooooooooooooooo
I sure hope that doesn’t happen. Maybe on Saturday or Sunday. :D
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, right, you'll be at the game on Friday.
OK, then let’s hope the Cubs win Friday and Saturday, so DLee can take a breather on Sunday.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we're cookin.
I would HATE to miss DLee AND Soriano in my only game of the year I get to go to.
He can rest when we are going for the sweep Sunday.
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn ESPN!
This game starts too early. Most people are still on their way home at this time.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a 7:05 start
here on the East coast – the hour makes a big difference!
by sdurst on Apr 21, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup,
Lovin’ being an EST Cubs fan tonight. Much better getting to bed an hour earlier.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, nice being a CDT Cubs fan...
... when you have to get up in the middle of the night to go to work!
It’ll be really nice to have this game over by 8:30 or so.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 21, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a CDT fan for now...
But come 15 May, I’m gonna be a Zulu time Cubs Fan over in England… thank goodness for the multitude of day games that will start at a decent 6-7pm!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna hop down to the pubs?
“Can you put the Cubs game on?”
“The what?”
“Nevermind.”
Ok, Wendy. Hot and juicy redhead. Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on Apr 21, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its perfect for me
I get home at 530 and instead of getting off at Sheriday Ill get off at Addision for the game
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Apr 21, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, danimal...
What do you do on day games?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day games
I’m usually stuck at work and catch an at-bat whenever I can go over to the lunchroom, which has a TV (luckily the TV gets both WGN and Comcast). I usually put the game on in there any day there is one, and no one has switched channels or turned it off yet. Still, a lousy way to try and follow your team.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early
start is bad for me here in Tucson. Game starts at 4pm and I won’t get home till 5:30pm. I’ll catch the first hour on gameday so no work for the last hour. :)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Apr 21, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching boxes
Like both of ‘em. If I had to pick, I’d pick the one with the pretty pictures. For some reason, the vertical layout is more visually appealing to me.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can easily do both.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 21, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like this is what you're going to do...
but why not just add the extra stats on the vertically aligned one. That way, it’s easier to compare the two pitchers, as well. Looked like the columns were a bit off because of the length of the pitcher names on the new one.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds about right
“when a Met gets injured, you can tack on about six weeks onto any timetable they give you”
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 21, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Pedro has much left in the tank. He has been
out of shape the past few years and his arm and shoulder have a lot of wear and tear on them.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing could be said about the Cubs
Especially with their pitching.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
by Mordecai on Apr 21, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for Soriano
who returned very quickly after the quad injury toward the end of last season!
by bap on Apr 21, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope...
it’s not blacked out even though it isn’t supposed to. The only chance I have to watch a Cubs game here at NIU is if I have WGN.
Let’s keep the good play going!
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on Apr 21, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Real Test for Cubs in Mets
The Cubs have done a good job winning 10 of 12 games from the Pirates, Reds, and Astros. That’s a legitimate compliment, not a backhanded one. How many times do good teams frustrate you by losing to bad teams? Winning both of these games would be nice against a quality team like the Mets. Splitting with the Mets at Wrigley would not be terrible. Look, if you can dominate the bad teams and split with the good teams, you are likely to make the playoffs in this day and age of 4 teams per league making the playoffs.
by memphiscub on Apr 21, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And that's exactly what I said in my fanpost
But got slightly bashed for it. This is a big game on a big stage and should be a heck of a game to watch.
Can’t wait!
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. It would be good to put
a hurt on the mets as they are starting to get better. I know that ESPN will be fawning all over them and if Big Z is on, we should be in pretty good shape.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say the bottom stat is better.
More numbers to look at for the season, instead of me, and fellow posters, going on br.com to look up stats. Could you somehow put the pictures for the 2nd one? That’d be sweet
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, and...
Nittany, are you currently in the State College area? I might be moving there soon and know pretty much nothing about town or how many Cubs games I’ll be able to see. You know, the important stuff.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no way!
Grad school, or just “here for the beer”? Anyway, good stuff man.
It’s pretty hard to get Cubs games in Centre County. We use to have WGN 3 years ago, but since then it’s been out of our local comcast cable channels, which still really annoys me that they decided to cancel WGN. Unfortunately, I have to resort to MLB mediacenter online to watch Cubs games. It is pretty nice, though, when they play the Phillies/Pirates, as we get Comcast Philadelphia and FSN Pittsburgh over here.
The town is a college town, in all ways and shapes. Before you come to State College, it’s all farmland and Amish country, and then you hit Penn State almost out of nowhere. I’ve had no real problems with the people here; everyone is really nice, save the football weekends when things get a little rowdy.
There isn’t a lot of Cubs love here, unfortunately. I went out Friday night with a Cubs shirt—the big red C logo with the blue circle—and I was heckled about 6-7 times by people just walking in the streets. Nothing really escalates after that, so it’s not really nothing that you wouldn’t expect from being in another state.
If you ever feel like tossing a couple back whenever you arrive, or just to hang out at a tailgate/bar, don’t be scared to shoot me a comment or PM.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info!
I’ll definitely look you up. My girlfriend got in a MA/PhD program there, and I’m planning on following along in Fall 2009 to (hopefully) get in the Penn State MFA program for creative non-fiction.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good stuff man
Fall at Penn State is my favorite season to be here. Hopefully you get accepted!
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this game is on MLB.TV...
...I’ll be amazed. It will be the only way I can watch it tonight, so let’s pray.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan
I think you may want to acquire a friend with a DVR set. ;)
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a broke-ass PhD student...
...thus, no cable. So I gotta find my ways to steal and go to bars with the games!!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 21, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
going to a bar with a game
in NYC tonight. SO happy to finally get to watch the cubs ( I can’t even afford mlb.tv!)
I don’t even mind that i’m going to be surrounded by mets fans…
by mrbubs on Apr 21, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please join me in a responsive reading....
Oh Most Holy MLB…
...ooh, You are so big,...
...so absolutely huge….
Gosh…....we’re all really impressed down here, I can tell You.
Forgive us, O Mighty Baseball Broadcasting Blackout Makers….. for this, our dreadful toadying, and…
But You are so…...strong and, well, just so…..super.
Amen.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew you couldn't wait
to post a picture before the game. Freakin’ knew it
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I knew you knew that I knew you knew that I knew you knew.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you know that?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've known that since time began.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you praying to God here?
Or worshipping someone’s junk? “Strong, super, so big, absolutely huge…”
JK
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 21, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I freaking love "Meaning of Life"
Oh Lord, please don’t burn us
Don’t grill or toast your flock
Don’t put us on the barbecue
Or simmer us in stock
Don’t braise or bake or boil us
Or stir-fry us in a wok
Oh please don’t lightly poach us
Or baste us with hot fat
Don’t fricassee or roast us
Or boil us in a vat
And please don’t stick thy servants Lord
In a Rotiss-o-mat.
Hands down, my favorite Python movie. Yes, even over Holy Grail.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano
Last time out I noticed Z was throwing a lot of fastballs in the 89-90 range. If this was a conscious effort I think he might be able to take his game to the next level. When his mixes up the speed in his fastball like that he can get better control and probably get more weak grounders (as opposed to more foul balls with higher velocity). I’m curious to see if he continues this trend.
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed this, too!
I’d be curious to see a pitch-by-pitch analysis to see if this variation is WHY he’s had such good control and so few walks in his starts thus far.
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he gets a lot
more downward movement at the lower speed. I think if he shows the met hitters his fastball up in the zone and comes back with sinkers away they will be killing a lot of worms in front of home plate. I just hope he doesn’t get that macho attitude and try to throw the ball through the backstop. He is much more effective now when he changes speed.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
z
interesting to note his batting average against is around .260 – a lot higher than last year, but his ERA is nearly a full point lower than last year. Means he’s around the plate a lot more, and batters are making contact, with some of those at-bats resulting in hits. But he’s not hurting himself with walks, and that more than makes up for the extra hits. Let’s hope he can keep this up.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very cool point.
I like this Z much better. It also gives him less reason to freak out and lose it. Let your defense work, big guy.
Forever devoted
by Fukumania on Apr 21, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir
You hit the nail in the head. And this is what walks do, they hurt like hell. In all it’s an encouraging sign that Z might become a pitcher after all. One other thing. I’m wondering how much influence Dusty had on pitching too…
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how much
we can blame dusty for this one. I think it has more to do with organizational philosophy and pitcher maturity. A pitcher has to be taught at the minor league level how to stay in the game. You are not just out there throwing as hard as you can. A pitcher has to have a game plan and execute it. This is taught before you get to the big leagues.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no
I see your point. But there have been rumors that Dusty had something to do with the “nibbling” around the zone from the pitchers. Now, if Dusty thinks BB hurts his offense he might also think that is better to give up walks than to get hurt with a base hit. His motto is “you don’t walk your way home”. Like I said, his philosophy may have influence the pitching to some degree.
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a bit
of a stretch. I know we want to blame dusty for all of the Cub’s past sins, but I think we may be pushing a bit here. I think that good pitchers figue a way to keep their pitch counts down and Big Z may be at that tipping point. I think you may be heaping just a bit too much on dusty on this one.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who really knows?
One thing though: this was discussed a lot before Dusty exited the Cubs, even prior to the disastrous 2006 season. It was usually refered to as the “nibbling” from Cubs pitchers. A lot of people mentioned that Dusty might have something to do with it. And of course, given his way of thinking, it wouldn’t be surprising at all.
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see
how it is in your best interest to cause you pitchers to throw more pitches. While I do think that he was not sensitive to pitch counts for his young pitchers, I just find it hard to believe that he would instruct his pitchers to nibble.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
If he thought walks clog the bases why wouldn’t he instruct his pitchers to throw less around the plate? He could look at his batting average and see they were very effective there and be happy (less AVG at the cost of walks would probably seem ok to him). In Dusty’s world this is how it works. No?
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are
giving him too much credit for thinking that far ahead. He’s not that smart. What you are talking about takes a lot of logical thinking and I don’t think he thinks much farther than “go pitch and get the guy out”.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the BA against is a telling
stat. Cub pitchers have had the lowest BA against in the league for a while now because they have had a lot of strikeout pitchers, but they have also had a lot of wild pitchers who threw a lot of walks and have had a lot of trouble staying in games because their pitch counts go up quickly. If you pitch to contact more and let you defense bail you out, you can stay in the game longer and save your bullpen.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA against
Right – he’s not trying to strike out everyone anymore. He realizes he has a defense behind him. So far, it hasn’t led to him going deeper into games (he’s averaging less than 7 innings per start), but if he keeps it up, hopefully he can eventually go 8 or 9 innings without throwing much above 100 pitches.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just a matter
of time before he stays in games longer. Eventually most throwers make the transition to pitchers if they want to stay in the game. There was only one Nolan Ryan. The human arm can only take so much and if Big Z wants to pitch deep into his 30’s, he will have to make the transition to a pitcher.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan
True – there was only one Nolan Ryan. But I think a lot of pitchers in his era were taught how to pitch from a standpoint of not just trying to strike everyone out, but to plan the game ahead of time, as another poster mentioned he’d like to see Z do. This isn’t the case now, as most young pitchers seem to want to throw the ball as hard as they can for as long as they can. That might explain why we have so many burnt-out arms today despite lower workloads, and why so many pitchers in Ryan’s era (think Fergie Jenkins winning 20 games six years in a row) were able to post inning pitched and CG numbers that dwarf the best we see today without getting hurt.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just using Ryan
as an example of of a thrower who never made the transition from a thrower to a pitcher but pitched for 25 years! I agree with your assessment of the burnt-out arms and I think it is a direct result of pitchers not making that transition. That is why I believe that even limiting a pitchers pitch count may not help if the guy is not smart enough to figue a way to prolong his own career by making the transition.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point
Might explain why strict pitch counts haven’t resulted in fewer pitcher injuries. Seems like pitchers are getting hurt now a lot more often than when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, when no one cared about pitch counts. I always use three guys as examples: Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens as examples. All three were used in ways that would never happen with young pitchers today – throwing 150 or more pitches in games numerous times (all three) at tender ages. None has ever suffered significantly from arm problems, or at all really.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also subscribe to the
theory that there is not enough non-pitch throwing done to build arm strength. Young pitchers need to throw more long-toss and non-stress throwing to build up there arms to handle the workload. Most teams are afraid to let there young pitcher throw more than their game appearance and one side session. The pitchers used to throw everyday to build up their arms but that is discouraged now. You can’t expect a pitcher’s arm to handle a big league workload if it hasn’t been prepared. Hence, more injuries.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why my son throws ALOT between starts...
every other day…one day long toss…one day light mound work…and never until the arm is tired. Just for 10-15 minutes at a time. Besides…the stupid 50 pitch pitch-count in his little league is sometimes only 1 1/3 of an inning for some of the kids that can’t throw strikes consistently.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
something tells me
That Nolan Ryan did not have a pitch count when he was in little league!
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by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the 705 start
What a bonus, that is for the East Coasters like myself. Usually have to watch all the 2:20 games eastern at work, which isn’t so bad either. gotta love mlb.tv
Big Night for Big Los!
by mossey12 on Apr 21, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets aren't that good
Doubtful their pitching is deep enough in 2008. Pedro and El Duque are out of gas, Billy Wagner is a high mileage closer, Johan can’t carry the load all by himself. The lineup also is suspect once you get past Reyes and Wright. Delgado is playing on fumes at this stage, Alou is older than dirt and perpetually hurt, Castillo is playing on one leg, the others are non-descript.
by MDBNIU on Apr 21, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they looked pretty dangerous...
against the phillies.
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by IowaCubs- on Apr 21, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets may be overrated....
But they’re still one of the best teams in the NL. I think AZ is the best team in the league, and the Cubs, Brewers, Braves, Mets, and Dodgers should easily finish with winning records.
Comparing the Cubs + Mets:
They have 3 star offensive players in Wright, Beltran, Reyes
We have 4 star offensive players in Lee, Ramirez, Fukudome, and Soriano
The Cubs supporting cast outshines the rest of the Mets lineup (esp at Catcher)
They have the best pitcher in baseball, followed by 2 okay pitchers and 2 replacement level pitchers
We have a great pitcher anchoring our rotation, followed by Lilly (okay) and three voliatile pitchers (Hill, Demp, Marquis).
Our biggest advantage is the bullpen. They have Wagner (overrated, though quite good) and a bunch of nobodies. Heilman was good but I think he’s been overworked.
I like our chances.
by berselius on Apr 21, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to watch tonight's game...
on ESPN GAMEDAY!
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by IowaCubs- on Apr 21, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets
Hey – if they’re not that good, why did so many analysts pick them to win the NL pennant this year? Is it just NY bias at work?
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you really have to ask?
If the Mets can find 9 warm bodies to march out on the field, so “expert” at ESPN will pick them to win it all. I agree with DBNIU’s evaluation of the Mets. If you take a good hard look at their rosteryou’ll find more holes than a five-mile stretch of Chicago tollway.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN, MLB GAMEDAY, WCIU, whatever
Just kick NY butt.
by JFCubFan on Apr 21, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Is Maine’s WHIP rather high for the ERA he is currently posting? It seems like his ERA should be quite a bit higher based on his WHIP.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Apr 21, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I see what you mean
but based on his game log he’s giving up only 3 doubles and 2 hr in the 3 games thus far (no triples)....so his hits and walks allowed have not hurt him as much as they could have. Basically, he’s been lucky (or good) thus far.
Nice to see we can get these kind of stats somewhere.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=mainejo01&;t=p&year=2008
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by tony412 on Apr 21, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs Lineup
per ESPN 1000
johnson cf
theriot ss
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
fukudome rf
derosa lf
soto c
fontenot 2b
zambrano p
by lance dickson on Apr 21, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks good
I for one am not missing Soriano at all (especially if Johnson keeps hitting this way)
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by danimal15 on Apr 21, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said Ward was starting?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one said he was starting.
That was a suggestion to give DLee the night off. I dismissed it as soon as I saw it. I like this linup alot. If he would flip Soto and DRo it would be perfect.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he would do this...
johnson cf
fukudome rf
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
soto c
derosa lf
theriot ss
fontenot 2b
zambrano p
It would be perfecter.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree with this one
Because Theriot and Fontenot for some strange reason seem to like batting back to back. It must be something about their familiarity with one another’s batting and running abilities.
by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 21, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit
that this one looks pretty sweet. Speed at the top, speed at the bottom, on-base at the top and power in the middle. I think you have a winner.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's only...
...a matter of time before Fukudome finds the 2-hole.
My guess is, with the 2-slot being a demanding position to hit, Lou wants him to get confortable with seeing a variety of major league pitching before putting him there.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't.....post....image....
fighting….impulse…...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughing anyway
I can just imagine the picture you would show.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Apr 21, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking of another one
but that’s ok. My imagination was better.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Apr 21, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's probable
Depending on the production of Theriot and Soto, most of all. More important that seeing Fukudome 2nd though is never seeing Soriano 1 or 2 again. Perhaps moving Fukudome to 2nd might be less ego crushing since they would probably put Soriano behind Ramirez. Fukudome, of course, doesn’t have any business hitting 6th so this may be how it pans it. It will be interesting when he comes back, that’s for sure.
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would rather have Cedeno over Fontenot
Still not a big Fontenot fan
by berselius on Apr 21, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess Fontenot got the call because...
...he’s a speedy lefty and Maine is an RHP.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Met's lineup
according to MetsBlog.com
Reyes ss
Castiilo 2b
Wright 3b
Beltran cf
Delgado 1b
Church rf
Casanova c
Chavez lf
Maine p
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 21, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those of us at the game tonight...
Can we agree to get loud and make Wrigley look freaking awesome on national TV tonight?!? :-D
by CubbieKoolAid on Apr 21, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not going
but I hope you all can “represent” and rock Wrigley
FU-KU-DOH-MEH! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!!!!
by tony412 on Apr 21, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done and Done!
I’ll be in section 233 down the 3rd base line
by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 21, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read on Rotoworld...
...the Reds purchased the contract of Jerry Hairston, Jr. from triple-AAA Louisville. Can Dusty collect anymore former Cubs? Sosa?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 21, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just heard that
“Boom Boom” Bynum was looking for a job.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is heathcliffe slocumb
looking to make a comeback?
by bap on Apr 21, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jose Macias still in Japan?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incredible
And he is still hitting Corey leadoff. He may have some qualities as a manager, I guess I’m just blind to them.
by Luis on Apr 21, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I used to stick up for dusty
when everyone was down on him because I felt like he wasn’t give much of a team after ‘03, but when he does stuff like this I can’t defend him. Ther is no way CPat should be leading off for a major league team. Is he really their best option? I can’t believe that they don’t have someone on their roster that can do a better job at leadoff.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought freel was a pretty good option...
not sure where he is now…
by bap on Apr 21, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't be worse than CPat.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL...he's still with the Reds...
and has only led off in 3 games…but has only started 5 times.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As strange as it sounds
Adam Dunn would be their best choice.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha...I was thinkin' the same thing but didn't have the guts to say it.
He does draw a lot of walks…
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.189 BA .413 OBP classic!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He must be driving dusty nuts.
The classic basepath clogger.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keppinger maybe?
He had .400 OBP in 67 ABs last season and has a .373 OBP in 73 ABs so far this year. Small sample sizes, granted, but he seemed to do a pretty good job of getting on base against the Cubs.
(Waitaminute, have we grown so weary of debating the Cubs lineup construction that we’ve moved on to the Reds?!)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need a hobby.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I hear baseball's a pretty cool game...
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 21, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 21, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BCB
Softball league?
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
Updated April 19th
by Rudey on Apr 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a beer pong team.
n/t
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WBBM Newstime: 4:41
Partly cloudy, high of 70 degrees, low of 53 overnight… Wind at 2-9 mph out of the East/Southeast. Should blow from right to left.
by bap on Apr 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan
tonight? Think I’ll mute the tv and go with Pat and Ron…
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 21, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, no Len and Bob?
Eff that, I’m watching with the radio too.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's crazy to see the whole lineup
tonight having a BA over .300. The only ones who are below it are Ramirez, Fontenot and Zambrano. Crazy.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and those guys are bums anyway...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, definitely.
Thank GOD we have !ONEDEC. Dunno what we’d do without him.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was sarcasm.
:-)
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZZz
no pregame anything?
I hate ESPN, its only on because there is a NY TEAM WOOOOOOOOO
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
Updated April 19th
by Rudey on Apr 21, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just had to say
LOL
at the instant 100 years of frustration bringing brought up…
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
Updated April 19th
by Rudey on Apr 21, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys know that the Cubs haven't won the WS in 100 years?
I had no idea!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was totally expecting...
Morgan/Miller. This is a pleasant surprise.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 21, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Joe Morgan!
Hooray! It’s Len and Bob!
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My deepest sympathies.
Woe.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys
i cant watch the game while on the comp. Ill see yall when its over.
Cant wait for it~!
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
Updated April 19th
by Rudey on Apr 21, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe and Jon only..
do Sunday night I think…
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So who are the ESPN announcers?
n/t
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Shulman and the Bulldog
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Riot tonight
Lower back soreness. Instead, we get !ONEDEC and hopefully not CEDENO!
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup change
Fontenot hits second and plays second
Cedeno bats eighth and plays short.
Theriot has lower-back soreness.
by Bruce Miles on Apr 21, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang it
Disguise Patterson as Cedeno and put him in SS. And by disguise, I don’t mean play horribly.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm.
Cubs in HD. Hate not getting WGNHD.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 21, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First pitch fastball
.... Strike!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes the no-no...
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs lose!
Rabble rabble rabble! 136 Playoffs Arizona! Arizona! Arizona! SORIANO!
-MDBNIU
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha!
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes
gets jammed, but gets a busted bat single out of it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Time for the pitcher's best friend.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Z up with the sinker.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blue tops again...
they are obviously Z’s favorite.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to 2005
When the rest of us discovered that ;)
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice burn
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeze...don't be so "snappy" ok?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Tyra was hot?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying you're NOT getting hot around the collar..
when you look at that pic?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ANTM Tyra <
SI Cover Tyra.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Castillo
with some weird plate mechanics. Seems to be favoring his left knee…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's up with the sound?
You can barely hear L&B over the crowd noise.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's WCIU for you
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I was, so excited to get to listen
to Len and Bob tonight. Meh.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon blue...
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh
castillo is so bad that his full swings are basically sac bunts
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dusty would bat him leadoff....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to go on
a Marty Brennaman-esque rant about Met fans. What a loathsome group.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any particulars?
Or just generally.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just generally.
Did you hear Cerny wasn’t offered a new deal? I guess this mean Robbo’s staying, if only as the backup.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't see Robbo swallowing backup duties.
Saw the thing about Cerny. I’d guess we get a new starter and either Forecast is our #2 or we go out and get a backup.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
Robbo is done. Never had good instincts (comes off his line waaaaayyy too often and way to early on set pieces), but now he has lost the quickness to make up for it. Damn. I wanted Kameni or Carson.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank god I found this site
being deployed in IRAQ and finding this site, is a almost like being home. Big thanks to all of you. Keeping Cubs fans out here updated
by deployedcubfan on Apr 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, thank *you*
Take care of yourself over there.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for
for your service and glad you can join us.
by sue369 on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m not deployed, but I will be heading over to England in a few weeks… while much different than Iraq, I’ll still be relying on this site for the Cubs.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome...
and a ginormous “Thank You” for your service, sacrifice and being a patriot. Guy like you are the reason this country is great.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good times
This is like hangin with all my boys watchin the cubbies and living and dying with every pitch, out or hit
by deployedcubfan on Apr 21, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What branch are you with?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marines
Been in for 13 years, on a second tour in Iraq
by deployedcubfan on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Semper Fi, brother.
Who are you with?
I was an 0311 with Lima 3/1 from 97-01
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MTACS-38
An airwing from Miramar. We keep you grunts alive by giving you air suppport
by deployedcubfan on Apr 21, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't I know it!
You stay safe, man. Enjoy the game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
K Called!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN live feed is availale here in Japan
so I will join here for a while….
Will Santana pitch to Cubs in this series?
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
We miss him by a day. phew
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great pitch.
Yo-yo type 2 seamer.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
beltran scares me the most
with all the damage he did with houston
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we're playing these games in Chicago then.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, no offense
but Zambrano kind of looks like Jabba the Hutt in his ESPN Gameday picture.
It’s probably a methaphor, like he eats batters for breakfast. Yeah, that’s most likely it.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
woo
nice confidence building inning for z
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He threw alot of pitches though...
but that’s been his achilles heel for most of his career.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice recovery by Z.
Let’s get some runs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice way to get out of RISP
BTW I will go watch baseball tomorrow, out of Okinawa, but heavy rain is expected….hmmmm
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every Japanese stadium I've seen is indoors...
how many outdoor parks do you have there?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Non-pro baseball...
I will go watch high school ballgame – all of them will be played under the sun.
For pro baseball,. there are 6 out of 12 team has non-dome home ballpark.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes on 2nd, one out.
BIG job by Z to get out of it.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It does
We’re finally playing a good team. Hence the nerves.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets only have 2 players hitting above .300
What losers
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction, three
I’m still learning how to count
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some kinda problem with Castro???
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
scuz'e me Casanova...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casanova has an equipment problem.
I can’t help it…”TWSS”
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf
It’s catcher’s gear, not a suit of medieval armor.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
100 years?
You don’t say… I haven’t heard that anywhere.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
100 years of what?
Sorry, haven’t been paying attention to the ‘news’ much lately.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparantly
It’s been 100 years since the Cubs last ate ice cream together or something
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhh, right!!
Well, that is hard to do these days, what with the lack of soda joints and all. A good soda jerk is hard to find.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 years? Huh
Since Frederick Cook claimed to have reached the North pole, right?
I was thinking the same thing about today, too. Weird man.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!!!
The 100 year anniversary!I thought it would never get here!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The over/under...
on 100 year references is at 253. We’re at 2 so far and the over is looking pretty tempting.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does that include the opening credits?
I thought it was in there twice alone
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reed!
that ball was drubbed right back up the middle
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot kind of looks like
Samardzija; both bird-looking
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
Though Samarddzjia’s nickname is The Shark. But both have prominent ‘beaks,’ if you will.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good replacement of Soriano
will he start after Sori out of DL?
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's been talk of dropping Soriano
to 5th or 6th in the lineup.
Reed Johnson looks to be the everyday centerfielder right now. When Soriano comes back, DeRosa will move from left field to second base.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the more Reed hits
the less likely Lou is to put Sori back at leadoff.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Apr 21, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But he doesn't hit HOMERS man....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he gets called out at second base too!!
Send him back!
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit Johnson!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hit and run obviously
reed got hung out to dry, nothing he can do
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Fontenot strikes out
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hit'n run - easy out
Maybe Fontenot fault
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so much,
that was tough fastball up and away. he tried to get it but just simply couldnt. tough break…
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 21, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Lee
Show ‘em what we’re about.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Without the "hit" part...
the hit and run just isn’t as effective.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Sue
You know you need to bring the chart in with the first poo reference!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Apr 21, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allow me...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
no pics!
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 21, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that pic
Is within the BCB game thread parameters.
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just 20 KB
Thought that was ok?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah
Limit it
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty hazy looking downtown...even with the wind.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Derrek speaks Japanese on NHK
I watched Derrek speaks Japanese for “Watch MLB on NHK!” in kinda spot jingle on NHK satellite channel, after Dome appeared.
That was cool.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see he retained a little
from his childhood days in Japan.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee's dad was a scout in pacific rim
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee's dad, Leon
Leon played for Japanese league for 11 years and Derrek spent most of his kids days at International school in Yokohama, Japan.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Leon was
a scout and worked for a Japanese team (Orix Blue Wave – Ichiro’s former team) as a coach and manager.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 21, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knocking on Wood, but...
The shine comes off the rose for this Mets lineup pretty quick, doesn’t it? After Beltran it gets ugly.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Pretty unimpressive.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FONTENOT!
Meh.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just asking....
Do ya think a better defensive 2nd baseman would have gotten that…? I myself am wondering….
by zevkalman on Apr 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough play.
Once you do get over to that, you’ve got to get up and whip a throw.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Apr 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, yeah
But it was a hard play to make, yes.
Beer, of course, is actually a depressant. But poor people will never stop hoping otherwise. -- Kurt Vonnegut
by bluebythebook on Apr 21, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumb Ryan Church,
getting stupid singles.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah...please limit the namecalling.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right after you stop
posting pictures every attosecond
= D
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
my 4 pictures over the last 3 hours we’re totally over the top. My bad.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay
Your apology is more than accepted.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Apr 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought you could still post pics as long as they’re not too big. myself, i have had no problems with loading the page… and i like the pics…
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
by anormal on Apr 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Played him up the middle...didn't expect him too pull
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on Apr 21, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
throw strikes please
its raul casanova ffs
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
strike em out throw em out!
what a gun by geo!
by grifdog on Apr 21, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs