Open Thread: Cubs vs. Nationals, Sunday 4/27, 12:35 CT
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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Chicago Cubs at Washington Nationals, Apr 27, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
We are, once again, in uncharted territory. There are three games remaining in the month of April. The Cubs' win last night tied the franchise record for wins in April, 16 (it was set in 1969, and to be fair, there are more games played now in April than there were in past years). Derrek Lee has seven home runs; the club record for HR in April is eight, set by Lee Walls in 1958 and tied by Sammy Sosa in 2000 and 2002.
Keep up the good work.
Stop the presses -- Greg Couch actually wrote a good column today with which I agree 100 %: Get Alfonso Soriano out of the leadoff spot when he returns from the DL. Couch writes:So what should [Lou] Piniella do?
Move him down to sixth in the lineup, where his power matters more and his selfishness hurts the team less. He can do great things, almost carry a team, when he's on. But in the postseason, you have to be more disciplined than ever.
A-freakin-men.
On the other hand, something I disagree with in today's Sun-Times: Chris DeLuca says "don't count the Cardinals out. Not to diss them too much, but I think St. Louis will come back to Earth -- especially if Albert Pujols' elbow blows out, which it could at any time. On another topic, DeLuca reminds us that Mike Cameron's 25-game suspension ends today and he will make his season debut Tuesday against the Cubs at Wrigley Field.
Bruce Miles writes today on the positives and negatives of the Cubs' newfound propensity to attempt stolen bases.
And, the usual Mike Downey nonsense, in which he attempts to "rank" the top 25 regular season games in Cub history. (He managed to get the date wrong on the one he puts on the top of the list -- the NL East division clincher in Pittsburgh was on September 24, 1984, not September 9.)
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Ted Lilly threw very well in his last start. It's time to build on that and get that ERA, currently orbiting Mars, down to a reasonable level. It'll take a while. Even if he does what Z did last night -- throw seven scoreless -- his ERA would drop only to 5.68. There's a fair chance he can do this against this franchise -- last year he won his only start vs. Washington, allowing one run in 7 IP. He's particularly good vs. Nats SS Cristian Guzman (1-for-18, 8 strikeouts).
John Lannan has never faced the Cubs -- in this series, of the three starters for the Nats, the Cubs had previously faced one of the three once. No wonder Washington has so much trouble, with such an inexperienced starting staff. Lannan's numbers are pretty decent so far this year -- but with 10 walks in 23.2 IP, expect the newly-patient Cub hitters to try to wait him out.
Today's game is on WGN. Yes, this time for sure. It's also on MASN cable in the Washington/Baltimore area, and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Ted Lilly
hopefully this is the game he finally gets his velocity back to normal. IMO he wasn’t very good in his last start, and pitched very simliar to his start against the Reds. He just got kinda lucky and got some big outs when he needed to. But if he’s going to be the Lilly from 02,03,04,06,07 he needs to get his velocity back to 90-92 consistently. This year it seemed like he has topped out at 90 at times. But most threw between 85-88, and hitters have caught up to it the second and third time through the line-up. Hopefully this was just a poor month, and Lilly will be back to normal soon.
Lilly has had these type of months in his career before, and has still had solid seasons. In August 2006 he had a 8.63 era August and still finshed with a 4.31 era in the AL East. In June 2003 he had a 6.28 era, and still finshed that year with a 4.34 era in the AL West.and in 2005 he had a 8.06 era in May that year as well. So hopefully Lilly has experience these velocity drop offs in the past and always bounced back. The Cubs really need to get him going and at least finsh in the 4.10-4.30 era range this season.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The benefits of winning baseball
We have Lilly struggling, who was one of our top pitchers last year and we are in first place and winning baseball games. He has seemed to come around, so this bodes well for the Cubs. Dempster has been excellent, Z is en fuego, and Marquis is in typical first half of the season form. The team as a whole is hitting and we aren’t packing it in when we are losing in the late innings. This season is so much fun already!
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by BigJohnAZ on Apr 27, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Downey and Al Yellon: Twins?
Why is Mike Downey’s ranking of Cubs wins any worse than your ranking of the Top 100 Cub Home Runs, which could have better been titled the Top 100 Cub Home Runs that I, Al Yellon, saw or had happen in my lifetime? Downey may be a tool but he isn’t the only one. But it is a wise man who recognizes that we are all tools sometimes and know when you’re being one.
In any case it is good to see the Cubs win and with some luck they will continue through the season with minimal injuries and improved pitching. Hendry deserves some credit for going after Fukodome and picking up Johnson, Lou deserves a lot of credit for getting this club together. All anyone has to do is remember the dark days of Dust when idiots ran wild.
by bubbamike the one and only on Apr 27, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins? Don't think so.
For one thing, Al is much better looking..,
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Apr 27, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at that HR list again.
I did NOT personally witness all of them, nor did they all happen in my lifetime. If you’ve got a better list, let’s hear it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you on your site. But what you did and what Downey did are similar, there isn’t much difference. You can disagree with his choice, you can show that he got his dates screwed up, that is fair game, but when you come down to it it is personal choice. Downey’s choice didn’t please you, your choice didn’t please me and my choices, if I thought myself expert enough to make them wouldn’t please you. Attack the man’s choices, not the man.
I know that is odd coming from me but It is how I feel. It is like attacking a player for not being the player we want him to be. In most cases it isn’t because he isn’t trying but because he hasn’t the ability. A fault but not one with which to hate him. It is like hating Bartman when everyone close to that ball went after it, he just had the misfortune to be closest to it.
by bubbamike the one and only on Apr 27, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said...
... “attack the man’s choices, not the man”.
That’s not what you did.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I said that you’re the same as Downey. That what you did and what he did are along the same line. I didn’t attack you.
Nothing wrong with being opinionated, who could be more so than myself, but to attack him because you don’t agree with his choices, well . . ..
In any case thanks for the site.
by bubbamike the one and only on Apr 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, but I didn't attack him, did I?
I said what he wrote was “nonsense”.
Not only did you get the facts wrong in criticizing me - it WASN’T the top HR “in my lifetime, or what I saw in person” - go look at the list if you don’t believe me—but you also got the number wrong. It wasn’t a top 100 list, it was a top 20 list.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I got it mixed up with the hundred players list. However the principle is the same. We can disagree on the choices and still respect one another. No need for Brownings.
by bubbamike the one and only on Apr 27, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great game to be at last night
looking for a series win today!
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And the
rain held off. Glad you got to see a great game.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
it was a really great trip. Plus, there were tons of celebrities touring the city because of Bush’s party. I saw Rob Lowe at the Archives. (It was pretty funny because people there seemed interested in seeing him instead of the Constitution or Declaration of Independence)
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop the Presses! (part two)
Al is in favor of moving Soriano out of the leadoff spot? I must have missed a few posts along the way, ‘cause this is sure news to me. Welcome news, I might add.
Now if we can just get him to agree that slapping a corporate name on Wrigley Field is a bad idea and the blue jerseys are okay… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Apr 27, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've come to this conclusion...
... because the team is winning with the lineup constructed the way it is. 9-3 now without Soriano. It could be argued that maybe he should just sit for a while longer…
The corporate name… as I’ve said many times, who cares? No one will call it that, anyway. It will ALWAYS be Wrigley to those of us who love the place.
The blue jerseys, though… no way. Hate ‘em.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like results to tell you what works
First let us all write to the Reds clubhouse and ask what clogging the bases has to do with scoring runs? I mean would they take away a double or the eventful triple and make it a double?
Alright with Soriano, moving him to the 6th hole would mean that Johnson when he plays is the leadoff and Theriot/Cedeno the #2 but when Pie plays he bats 2nd or 8th? Will Piniella put Pie in the 2nd hole in what will emerge as a platoon system, then who leads off, Theriot? That would mean when Johnson plays I think Cedeno plays more at SS. That would also mean DeRosa bats 7th, moving Soto/Blanco down to the 8th spot.
Of course the other component is the revelation that Piniella is also going to start DeRosa in four or five positions which means many more complexities and somewhat hiding Soriano’s big story.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Apr 27, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT- Matt Morris
According to MLB.com the Pirates just cut Morris. The owe him over $10M for the balance of this year and will have to pay a buyout for next year of $1M. What were they thinking when they made that trade? That wasn’t a small market move, thats for sure…
by LT on Apr 27, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From what I heard...
... Dave Littlefield thought Morris could be a mentor for their young pitchers. Unfortunately for the Pirates, this year guys like Duke and Gorzelanny were following Morris’ example of pitching really bad.
Morris hasn’t had a good year since 2005 and even that was just average. He appears to be done.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - NFL Draft
Anyone have any opinions about the Bears draft picks?
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Williams
the Bears were smart to take him. I just hope he doesn’t turn into Stan Thomas!
Forte looks like a slightly quicker version of Benson. He looks like he hits the hole a little quicker and harder, is definitely a better receiver, but he, like Benson does not have a breakaway gear. It’ll be intersting to see how he performs. He wowed during the Senior Bowl and was basically the only option on the TUlane squad, thus the focus of every defense and still managed a good season. He had a really bad knee injury in 2006.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineups
Cubs
Johnson, CF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, LF
Cedeno, 2B
Blanco, C
Lilly P
Nats
Lopez, 2B
Guzman, SS
Zimmerman, 3B
Johnson, 1B
Milledge, CF
Kearns, RF
Pena, LF
Nieves, C
Lannan, P
by Bruce Miles on Apr 27, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruce any rumblings regarding Cedeno playing at SS when Soriano returns?
just Internet rumblings or any thoughts from the dugout?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Apr 27, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Soriano 6th, who would have thought
That’s where I had him in the lineup a couple months ago and got flamed by some experts frequenting this site…Someone going as far to ask me if my marbles were all in place by my putting the “Cubs best hitter” down there.
While him at the 6 spot won’t make for any better pitches being seen by Kosuke, Kosuke is probably the best guy on the team to be at #5 with Soriano #6 because of his natural pitch selectivity.
by blackhawk24 on Apr 27, 2008 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think you can put Soriano anywhere below five...
...how do you justify paying a man $136,000,000 and batting him sixth? You need to factor in the man’s ego, what it says about our faith in the guy, and whether or not it’s going to do more harm than good. I get pissed off just as much as the next guy when Soriano starts the game off with a big fat K, but how about his leadoff doubles, or homers, that spark an early rally?
I think a better suggestion than batting him sixth would be to explicitly get him some help taking pitches and working counts. We got the guy for his power and speed, we need to use it.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 27, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is you're talking to me...
If so, my justification has nothing to do with salary. It’s IMHO what would be best for the team. Hey, if it’s between 5 and 6 for some here, then put him 5, keep D-Lee and A-Ram 3/4, put Kosuke in the #2 hole and continue to leadoff with Johnson. On days vs righties where Lou would want Pie to play, put Theriot at leadoff. DeRo would be 6th and then Soto and Pie.
All I want to see is Lou making the lineup with what’s best for the team. IMHO Fonzie at #1 just isn’t it. While I’d like to see him take a hint from what many have called the “Fukudome effect” and be more selective, I won’t be surprised if he’s 1st pitch hacking. Like I mentioned before, all his HR’s and hits on the first pitch were either pitchers’ mistakes on location or challenging him and losing.
Hey, if Fonzie starts at #1 and doesn’t produce, I hope to see Lou make changes, unlike toothpick boy, sticking to his guys come hell or high water.
There’s too much knee jerk reactions around here. I got flamed for suggesting Kosuke going to the #2 hole, like at #5 he was going to continue the .500+ OBP he had at the time. Or now with Soto, striking out 8 straight this weekend. The league is adjusting to the kid, now the kid must adjust to the league, pure and simple.
I’ll take 16-9 extended over the entire season. That comes out to 104 wins and would mean winning the division by double digits.
by blackhawk24 on Apr 27, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot is the SS
He’ll continue to get the majority of playing time there. Ryan is at .337/.406/.465 entering today’s game. If he slumps, you’ll see Cedeno get time at SS.
by Bruce Miles on Apr 27, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know you're not the guy making the decisions...
...but outside of a high batting average, that’s essentially the same Ryan Theriot we saw last season. I’m not very optimistic about his level of production when his batting average starts to fall.
by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone ordered...
...a personalized ONEDEC jersey? I wouldn’t spend $150 on it, but still, that’s funny.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 27, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if 75 fans give me 2 dollars each
then I will get it
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only asking 1$
From 150 fans.
by GoCubbies34 on Apr 27, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if 350 people on here give me two quarters each
we are set!
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't really missed
Soriano quite frankly. I didn’t think it was that big of a deal when he went out because he was only hitting .175 at the time anyway. Not that I think that will continue, I’m sure he will contribute this year. But the guys who have filled in for him have been much more productive than he had been up to this point. I wouldn’t hit him in the leadoff spot either. Five or six hole would be a good spot for him.
by qccub on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Paul Sullivan and Len just said on the leadoff man
that Lou plans to have Sori back in the leadoff spot when he comes back.
by LT on Apr 27, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually dreading Soriano's return
You know he’ll be flailing, the offense will get sluggish, and Lou still won’t move him down. Eventually, Soriano will have to moved down; I just don’t understand why Lou is so stubborn on this matter.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Apr 27, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has there been a fanbase dreading the return of a $136 million-dollar-man more...
...than we are right now?
Holy shit people, it’s not as if Neifi Perez is coming back…IT’S ALFONSO SORIANO!! All-star! Leading MLBer in assists! Stealer of bases! Hits a lot of home runs! Jesus Christ.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 27, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I am looking forward to him coming back. He is one of the best players on the team.
by LT on Apr 27, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, right.
I know who it is. I’m more interested in his defense than his bat.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Apr 27, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, that's not true.
Still, I’m not looking forward to his return.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Apr 27, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because something positive might happen
by LT on Apr 27, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Give me a break.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Apr 27, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stealer of bases might be a bit of an exageration at this point
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was more of a title...
...than meant to be a comparison to Jose Reyes and the like.
Maybe “Driver of Blue Hummer”?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Apr 27, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cedeno changed his name
According to Washingtion Nationals broadcast Ronny Cedeno now spells his first name Ronny.
Seriously, they should have their spelling correct for lineups atleast…
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
last night they showed the picture of Soriano leading off for the Cubs
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as bad
As when The Pirates said that DeRosa was playing LF and 2B in their starting lineup (batting 2nd and 6th)
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot stat I noticed
Anyone realize he has the 12th best batting average in MLB and #10 in the National League.
Anyone wondering, Cedeno hasn’t had enough AB to be on there but he would be in the top 5 if so.
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Small sample size
by bubbamike the one and only on Apr 27, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, it's not a whole season, but it's basically a month
people always use full month stats to prove or disprove points about batting production
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware of that
But still you wouldn’t think the guy had those stats considering the negativity on the posts.
But its cool to have OTHER players in the top other than just DLee and Ramirez which is who you would expect.
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me?
Or has Lilly had a good first 3 innings every game and then he falls apart?
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lilly's got his curve ball back
Is this the first game he’s been able to effectively get strikes with it?
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's more annoying?
Lilly hanging 2-strike breaking balls, or the Bud Light “dude” commercials?
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reed clogs a base
gotta get to this guy, I mean come on
by grifdog on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
this is not good
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no hitter through three
i repeat, the cubs have not reached base on a ball put into play off of Count Lannan through three innings of offense
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this will change....
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh....I gotcha....
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not having
Soriano arm in LF hurt us in the second inning. If Soriano is out there Johnson either doesn’t try to run home or is thrown out at home.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Assuming Soriano fields the ball in the first place
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
assuming Soriano doesn’t hurt himself.
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be
like that Soriano easily gets to that ball, and saves us a run in that situation. People are WAY to hard on Soriano. The guy is going to put up big numbers this year, and his arm is going to save us a bunch of runs this year. I can’t wait for him to return, sure he’s probably not going to be hitting well right when he returns. But the guy within in the next month is going to get red hot and put up huge numbers. I can’t wait for that to happen and shut the mouths of stupid Cubs fans trying to treat Soriano like he’s Jacque Jones.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This argumentum ad hominem brought to you by Square D
Why do you think so many run on Soriano, despite his very good arm? It’s because he misses a lot of balls on the ground.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not true, and just a bad theory.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not an ad hominem argument.
He’s just contradicting the previous posters point. Ad hominem arguments use an irrelevant personal attack to as a refutation of a person’s argument. If cubsfan25 had said “ShanghaiBadger is a complete and utter fool who steals candy from children and knocks over old women crossing the street, so obviously he can’t be right about Soriano’s shoddy defense,” that would be an ad hominem argument. In this case, however, he just contradicting you, which is fair game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pwned
------ TheRiot Squad ------
by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clever
even more so if you’d spelled it right
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep.
I figured it was better just to leave it alone though
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so.
But internet memes are so transitory, who knows?!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there goes the street cred then
I should have done what the poster did and just ignored his in the first place
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
“shut the mouths of stupid Cubs fans trying to treat Soriano like he’s Jacque Jones”
I’m not trying to treat Soriano like anything. I am making an objective observation. I don’t think he’s the worst player in the league, but he’s certainly not perfect.
I rarely post anything about individual players, but it seems like any time anyone criticizes Soriano, they themselves are criticized, even if a point is valid.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't
come back to use the attack as an irrelevant premise for refuting your argument, it’s not an ad hominem. Even an insult is not necessarily an ad hominem argument. I can call you an idiot and not be guilty of the ad hominem fallacy; if I say you’re wrong about Soriano solely on the basis of the insult, then I’ve committed an ad hominem.
Now, perhaps he strawmanned your claim (which I think he kinda did), but he’s not guilty of the ad hominem.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I'll give you that
I still don’t get why this is such a polarizing issue. The guy’s not perfect, and I don’t see an issue with pointing out flaws in his game.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Soriano is perhaps the most maligned Cub on this site this year. At least it seems that way to me.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anybody is
hard on Soriano it’s because he is paid a king’s ransom.
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And his final numbers live up to that contract. Are you telling me hitting 299, 33 HR and 897 OPS is a bad season last year? Soriano doesn’t deserve that crap he has gotten from Cubs fans for struggling for two weeks.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's one he plays well
Like an infielder, coming in on a ground ball. It’s the ones in the air that cause him problems, coming in or going back.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's booted plenty of grounders out there.
If he was a good infielder, he’d still be an infielder.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I've seen him make that play many times
And it’s usually those where he racks up the assists. Don’t rate him much, do you?
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs are hitting ropes
right at people. Lannan’s living on borrowed time.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez.
How does that go foul?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked safe to me...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A No No through
4? Who would have thunk it?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a no hitter going?
I had no idea there was a no hitter going. I can’t believe Lannan is thropwing a no-hitter. I mean who’d have thought a guy who gives just over a hit per IP would be tossing a no hitter.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by an unknown left hander, yeah, who would have thunk it, since that's never happened before.
to be fair, this isn’t the same cubs team that let that happen a billion times over the last few years
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or
does Lilly seem to be in a full count or close to it on every hitter?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't exactly know why, but two guys that i've always disliked
nick johnson and lastings milledge
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i know, right?
what kind of name is lastings?
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope he can keep pena off the basepaths
since nieves is the most feared hitter in baseball
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lilly
isn’t right. His velocity is 84-89 today just like it has been in his previous starts this year. Lilly doesn’t have the pin point control Greg Maddux, Jamie Moyer or even Jon Lieber has to throw with such low velocity and be successful. Lilly has been a guy who could always throw 90-92 consistently and he has barley hit 90 this season. I know he has only given up 2 runs through four innings. So he hasn’t been too bad so far, but he’s gonna be lucky to keep them at 2 runs for another 2 or 3 innings.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Lilly
hurt his arm throwing the glove in the Arizona game?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commentators claim
the gun in Washington is slow. Lilly is hitting 90 on the WGN gun.
by californiachicagoan on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone notice he's throwing a no-hitter?
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 27, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess all it took was MY jinx.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 27, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done.
Can you jinx us a few runs?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on fire. Anyone else notice he's throwing a shut out?
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 27, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha. I enjoyed this exchange.
Well played, you two.
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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, i'm glad we got a hit,
but now i’m concerned about the shutout
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Biggest ONEDEC of all time.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT - what the hell?
The Bears selected a TE we don’t need over Andre Woodson. What is Bears management thinking? They are getting CB, S, TE; positions we don’t need! Are they fine with Grossman and Orton? I am really starting to dislike Angelo
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF!!!!!!!
Angelo said no defensive picks. This guy is a stooge. If he doesn’t get a QB, fire his ass.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we might not get a QB
the Bears don’t have a sixth round pick, and Woodson will most likely be off the board then. Colt Brennan and Erik Ainge might be the only options maybe.
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuck.
Angelo is an idiot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys....you cant judge a draft at this point
..much too early. Angelo has made more good picks than bad since he has been here.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the Bears have an OBVIOUS hole at QB
and I wouldn’t mind if they picked up an OL. Angelo has made great picks, but he has not filled the voids that this team has!
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Defense can wait. The Bears needed at least another OT/OG and a QB. There’s going to be 4 TE’s and 6(!) safeties (Brown, McGowan, Payne, Daniel Manning, Archuleta, and the rookie) in camp. I don’t think Angelo is going to be an early favorite for GM of the Year.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don't need another saftey
Brown and Manning are great starters, and Payne and McGowan are decent back ups. Who needs four TE on a team? And doesn’t this team as of right now only have two quarterbacks anyway?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown has been hurt more than healthy...you can never have too much depth at S or CB
...I agree, need to pull the trigger on a QB…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice move, stealing third
with the lefty on the mound.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, !onedec almost pulled a CEDENO!!!
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there's a break
let’s take advantage!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cedeno just used another of his nine lives...
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not the cubs
specialty. Men at 3rd and less than 2 outs. Let’s get on TRACK!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It has to be your day when...
A normal – and all too common – bone-headed play by Cedeno actuall works out.
by garyscottrules on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The trick to getting ted lilly out...
Throw the ball anywhere but over the plate.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lannan's getting an extra inch on the inside to RH hitters
that Lilly hasn’t gotten all day.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What a smart play by Reed.
I normally hate the slide into first, but that was really quick thinking
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very scrappy rally-killing DP.
At least he ran hard all the way to first.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you could throw a better...
DP ball then the riot just hit into.
It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...
by Schwa on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's pretty hard to not be frustrated with this game so far
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's frustrating is how the
Cubs can not score consistently when they have runners on 3rd and less than 2 outs. Even last night, they had 2 lead off doubles in the 5th and 6th and they died. They have to get this corrected or it will cost them! I know they won’t score all of them, but it sure seems like they have a tough time getting runs in!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Achilles Heel!!
The Cubs can’t not get runners in consistently with less than 2 out!
They have to get this corrected! SOON!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This has been a problem for years.
I don’t get it. I thought it was a Dusty thing. Must just be a Cubs thing. I’d love to see the squeeze tried a bit.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Apr 27, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw
That is a terrible call by the offical scorer. No way that was an error. There was no physical miscue. You could argue fielders choice, but you don’t give errors on mental mistakes. Bad call.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on Apr 27, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man I just knew that was going to happen...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The riot..
...is what BCB fans are gonna create if he isn’t givin a week off
by GHCF2314 on Apr 27, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
theriot really sucks
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
worst comment of the thread so far
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how? he's cost us a ton of runs with his play this series.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not getting a hit with the bases loaded doesn't "cost us runs", it's just a missed opportunity
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me? how does that not cost us runs?
have you also not noticed him being thrown at at 3rd twice this series?
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aw man, Aram just cost us a run by not getting a double and driving in D-Lee
that guy sucks
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
His situational hitting has been pretty bad.
by okiecubbie on Apr 27, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
it’s not just the Riot having trouble with situational hitting!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I guess he didn’t get the winning RBI for Cubs 10,000 win. Or getting on base in the first inning ALMOST every game.
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy
He has also come up with a man on third twice and hit into DPs. These were in very important situations.
by okiecubbie on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pros > Cons
I’ll tell you why.
That win in Colorado was key. Not only did it save our bullpen from pitching more innings but it was an important win.
Him getting on base early has helped the early leads, rising pitch counts and a tons of these blowouts early.
I’m not preaching he’s the best thing ever but really we gotta start pumping the breaks lightly on the Theriot hating.
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No excuse but...
Lannan is making some pretty good pitches…
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Losts of grouchy people in here today.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im just grouchy from the horrible draft the bears have put together.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
its a pretty shitty draft if you ask me. All picks, except the first, do not make much sense at all
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Seriously, though, I agree.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed..
like Friday night..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’LL KILL YOU!!!!. i’LL KILL ALL OF YOU!!!!!
by xene on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and were getting shut out by a poor mans sean marshall..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kosuke!
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man on 3rd less
than 2 outs? Predictions?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW,
That’s what a bad LF looks like. Pena could not have done a worse job.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and derosa continues to swing for a hr..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
put the ball in play, my god.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
F***
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
game over.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When did they
change to 6 inning games? I could have sworn they played nine last night.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dead on tho, wasn't it?
I thought the same thing at this point…
by techne on Apr 27, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derosa needs to settle down.
He is really swinging from the heels of late.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why...
I think Lou is going to put Derosa as ultra utility. I don’t think he’s been as clutch as he could.
by ak123 on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good teams
need to score with men on 3rd and less than 2 out! C’mon!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
god this team is so predictable.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weak.
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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This game is really starting to piss me off.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
unbelieveable
This team is struggling so bad with runners in scoring postion.
by cubsfan25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a f****** surprise!
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm out for a bit.
Getting too frustrated. Need some air.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
combined with this game and the shitty draft
I might do the same thing
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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you guys just admit lannen is a shitty pitcher?
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
He shut down the Mets and Braves his last two starts. Not that this fact will back you off the ledge.
by okiecubbie on Apr 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you should just punch something next time, instead of commenting, as they are usually illogical
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what, worry about your self.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should i worry about myself?
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont need your advice on what I should do. Most of us here are pissed about what's going on.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, i'll give you that, i won't try to tell you what you should or shouldn't do anymore, that was a mistake
but i will continue to point it out when you say stupid things. i think that’s fair
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this lack of situational hitting has been a huge problem
I know we won’t score all of the time from 3rd and less than 2 out, but we should be able to get men in from 3rd a lot more often than we have.
Ouch!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the
third time you’ve brought this up today. We get it.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*rolls eyes*
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I wish
the Cubs would get it!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repeating it
cinsistantly in here isn’t going to change it. Send an email to Lou.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF Sweet Lou
needs to be told about this problem, then we really have a problem!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
The Cubs are giving this theory way too much support.
by okiecubbie on Apr 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more
I stated this was an issue for the last two years and for all the improvements I still believe we are the worst in the league getting runners home from 3rd with less than 2 outs.
by garyscottrules on Apr 27, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's been 5 games in a row now
Winning on Wednesday and Saturday hides it a bit, but they’ve left a lot of runs out there
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo Tries Too Hard
You can’t reverse 100 years in one at-bat.
by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bring in marmol
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Would Bunt
more often with RISP until this club learns to meet the ball and stop trying to hit HRs all the time.
by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree! They need to something
They need to something. Hopefully sweet lou will do something to get it corrected!
But man it should very easily be a tie game right now!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll Never Happen, But
I’d love for Lou to call time out after DeRo takes two mighty cuts (and misses), go up to him at the plate, and do what they do in Pee Wee League – standing behind the kid and holding the bat with him and practicing a level swing.
by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good enough for first place
But not for everyone here. I won’t accept anything less than 24-0.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a Straw Man
to assume that those who are critical of poor execution are demanding an undefeated season.
by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my point is that they have
executed well over two-thirds of the time, which is very good for baseball.
You are perfectly right, though, to be critical when they do not.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with everyone batting 1.000
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wuertz is getting up to give up some more runs.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Apr 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to ruin the dour mood
But I finally got the WGN radio feed and the mlb.tv video feed perfectly sync’ed, I’m feeling good right now
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish the
new game theread would have come up at 2 p.m. like it was suppose to. We could leave all the Debbie Downers, bitchers and whiners in here and moved to the new game thread.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this a site to react to the game?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but i see people freaking out.
I was just pissed at the am/pm commercial. Thats all. game is not over, lets see what happens.
by xene on Apr 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That commercial is terrible.
I think they ripped off The Offspring’s “Hit That” whenever I hear the song.
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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's hypocritical to complain about complaining
if you really can’t handle it without contradicting yourself, go start your “positive only” thread
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed!
I am new to this site, but thought it was a place to react both positively and negatively to the game!
Am I missing something?
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, if you're not RA RA everything is great
you get shouted down instantly
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you
start a bitching and whining thread? You’s have lost of company today.
by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at how freaked out you are
i agree with Al, criticism is fine when it’s warrented, which it is in this situation, i don’t think it’s right when AramforMVP says really stupid things, but i think it’s totally fine for people to be really excited when things are good, and really upset when things are not, if you just relaxed and let it happen, then these sorts of debates wouldn’t start
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen brother!
IF we are not allowed to react to the game why have this thread? Everybody reacts differently
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
Lilly as getting ready to throw the glove!
by chipdowski on Apr 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
... didn’t post the overflow thread as I had planned. It’s up now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alternate link.
Same window.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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