Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Nationals, Sunday 4/27, 12:35 CT

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT in Game Threads Comment 128 comments

I knew I forgot something today. Here's your overflow thread.

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Hopefully the new thread will bring

some runs!!

by LT on Apr 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not a good day for Chicago

Cubs – currently in a bad game

White Sox – might lose to Baltimore

Bears – what the hell is Angelo thinking?

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

since I only care about one of those situations

and the game is not over yet I am not ready to say it’s not a good day….

by LT on Apr 27, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I personally am a big fan of the draft

I don’t think Andre Woodson will be any good in the NFL, and he’s likely the QB we’d have taken. Williams is great, Forte looks good. It’s a thin year for QBs in the draft and its not worth it to take a QB just for the sake of taking a QB.

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thought I'd join the game thread.

Didn’t really like what I saw in the other one. There are ways to criticize what the Cubs have done today without simply bitching.

That said, this team has failed to take advantage of numerous opportunities today. Does that mean they suck? No, it means they failed. Happens even to good teams.

There are two innings left. Let’s win.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Here, here.

There are two innings left. Let’s win.

It ain’t over til it’s over. And I don’t hear Johnny Estrada singing yet.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you Al

I have been avoiding the site today, only because I knew what was being said. Thanks for being the voice of reason.

by louslovechild on Apr 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

but I just cant get over how awful the Bears draft has been lol!

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The voice of reason.

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mentioned in the pre-game

that the Cubs might try to work some counts against Lannan, and that’s been largely absent. I think Lou might want to try and get everyone to just settle down and get back to what was working. THis team seems really tigh today and roping line drive around the park that seem to end up in gloves isn’t helping their confidence. Let’s get some walks and see what develops. Also, I’d like to see Lannan exit this game.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although...

... Lannan has walked three, and the Cubs left RISP in two consecutive innings with less than two out.

There’s the difference in this game.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

Too many left on base. That DP really sucked the air out of the team, it seemed like.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

7 left in 7 innings.

Too many.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ick.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Should have scored 3-4 runs out of all that...

... in the 5th and 6th.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least.

This team seems to not get that with a guy on third and less than two outs, you need to elevate the ball.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the thing.

Pitchers have at least as much control over their ground ball to fly ball rate as hitters do, if not more. And pitchers know that with a guy on third and less than two outs, you want to get ground balls. It’s not like they’re putting the ball on a tee for those guys.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

But this team, apart from a couple guys, seem to have very poor pitch selection and it becomes a glaring deficiency in those situations.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but who's the arbiter of what's bitching and what's just rationally criticizing

nobody tells people they’re being too positive, it’s just a blurry line

by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why would you tell someone they're being too positive?

For example, gary varsho’s post above is a good example of rationally criticizing.

Just saying “they suck” isn’t.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not saying you should tell people they're being too positive, i'm saying nobody does, so why tell people they're being too negative

the problem with saying “they suck” isn’t that it’s negative, it’s that it’s illogical. my point is that there should be room for all sorts of dissent, it’s ok for sue to say “poop”, why is that not bitching. i’m most likely taking this way too seriously, but i try to look at it like the cubs are America, and we’re the People, i like to think that in america people have the right to dissent, and more to the point, it’s frustrating to me when people spend more time complaining about how someone complained than the people that originally complained.

by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see "poop" as bitching...

... I see it as reacting to something bad that happens on the field.

It’s the difference between saying “YOU suck” and “THIS SITUATION sucks”.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

And phrased much better than the way my comment was developing!

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

saying "this situation sucks" is still bitching, how is it not?

by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not bitching.

It’s reacting to an event.

You can say, “It sucked that Theriot struck out”, which it does.

Continually saying “Theriot sucks”, what purpose does that serve?

Now do you see the difference?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

firstly, i still say it's your opinion, your judgment that saying "this situation sucks" isn't bitching, but i agree with you

about your “theriot sucks” point, look in the last thread at the way i reacted to that EXACT comment.

by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll have a look later.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because positivity makes people feel good

and negativity makes them feel bad.

by californiachicagoan on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Missed Chances Suck

Not cashing in RISP has historically been a problem with this club, and seeing it occur again is an ominous sign. I find it hard to accept that this year’s model is different (read: better at runs scored) when the same problems plague the team and there is no evidence to support things will change. And if that makes me Debbie Downer then so be it.

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too Much Still Dependent On

“catching breaks”, whereas the good teams make their own luck to an extent by not leaving so many on base. When the Cubs can get ‘em in consistently then I’ll start believing they can win a pennant.

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good teams take advantage of breaks.

The Cubs didn’t, for the most part, last year. This year, so far, they have—mostly.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean...

... the five-game and six-game winning streak aren’t evidence of this having changed?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

April and May are the times when the pretenders look good, run off win streaks against bottom feeders and strong clubs with injuries. I want to see how the Cubs do against the cream of the crop before I start seriously thinking things are better.

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's not unreasonable.

However, there’s nothing wrong with getting off to a good start, either. Wins now count just as much as wins in September.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitching Change!

IN: 45 Sean Marshall LHP

I love me some Sean.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hope he

does well since his family is there.

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too.

That’s a good point, I’d forgotten that.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i stayed at the same hotel as the team last year, and saw him there with his family :)

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How did you spot him?

I’m impressed anyone could pick him out in a crowd.

; )

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hah he was at the front desk when we were checking in

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Apr 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sean Marshall on

to give the Nats a taste of their own medicine. Lannan reminds me a lot of Marshall

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are they singing sweet caroline?

“so good! so good! so good!” really grates on my nerves.

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yes

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Apr 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I cater weddings

for a living. I hear that song way too much.

by davidalanu on Apr 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walked him.

C’mon now Sean.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They really need to keep this game at 2-0.

Got a good feeling IF they can do that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

That Nationals bullpen is, well, less than stellar.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well played Sean!

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the Cub were lookng past this game a bit,

to a couple days off and then the big series versus the Brew Crew. They need to get their heads back in it.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Could Be

we shall see soon enough!

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good boy, Sean.

A little too many 3-2 counts for my liking, but he got the job done.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We GOT THIS!!

lets go cubbies!!!

by xene on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Time for some runs

2-3-4

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice job by Sean.

Runs! Get some runs!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lilly looked much better today

He pitched well enough to win, but it’s tough to win when your team is shut out. Hitting tends to be contagious, and a lot of the Cubs are in a funk right now. Tomorrow’s day off is coming at the right time.

Having said that, they have 6 outs left to get two runs—just a bloop and a blast. I’m calling Ramy for the blast.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

True

In the interest of fairness, it is good to see Lilly coming around.

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm holding you to that Ramy HR RIGHT NOW!!

n/t

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad to see Lannan out of the game.

He’s thrown well this year, and the Cubs were mostly off balance.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Tell Y'all What

For the sake of the majority I’ll go back to “lurk” mode.

All things considered BCB is still a better place than NSBB…now THERE’S a fatalist’s haven if ever there was! At least I don’t call for Hendry to get the John the Baptist treatment on a daily basis!

by SecondSon on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

n/t

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heck of a pitch for strike three..

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

shoot

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This guy's a bit erratic.

Cubs need to make him throw strikes. Be patient!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

there you go! Nice AB

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like that?

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactmundo

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Time to get something cooking

by californiachicagoan on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to go Lee!

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How about a HR?

And just avoid RISP all together

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

haha who's listening to Ron?

Ron:what’s the word for that railroad…..thing…..ummm….?

Pat: Subway?

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

is it me or did John Rausch put on about 75lbs....?

...I remember him as a beanpole

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Shoot.

That low pitch has been a strike all day.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

True.

This whole crew have had really erratic zones, though. MLB’s gotta do something…though I have no suggestions!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I, for one, welcome our new electronic overlords!

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HA!

Perfect! Loving the Simpsons drops!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rats.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This guy's giving out

the Greg Maddux strikezone to everyone, for some odd reason.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's been consistent, at least.

When an umpire does this, the hitters have to adjust. The Cubs haven’t.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

Too bad Sori’s not playing. That pitch is his bread-and-butter!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha, so true.

And you know he’d like to beat Washington too.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think this is the first time...

... in the entire time he’s been out that someone here has actually wanted him back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

man he makes that look easy...

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOTSA CHANGES

IN: 34 Kerry Wood RHP
IN: 17 Mike Fontenot 2B
MOVE: 5 Ronny Cedeno SS

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

OUT: 2 Ryan Theriot SS

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, let's

hope we hold them here and come back to score 3-4 runs in the 9th and hold them in the bottom fo the 9th.

Go Cubs!!

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LSA

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Len

reads here. He just said the same thing.

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he has BCB up on his laptop screen!

Hi, Len!

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He said "LSA"?

; )

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

n/t

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wood had a nice easy inning.

Let’s go get ‘em!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nine pitches.

That’s all Wood needed to take care of the inning. Well played, sir.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Indeed.

Now he can pitch the last of the 9th after the Cubs take the lead.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So he can shoot for 8 or less?

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Efficient inning for Kerry. Well done.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like Rauch

has a VERY flat fastball, 92. Come on guys.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

Not a lot of movement on the fastball

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rauch has some real wacky looking tattoos.

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he and Henry know the same guy.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs

look like a team that needs a day off.

by Rick B on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

Good thing they’re getting one.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and the 14 nats fans in the stadium are on their feet

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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 27, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

D'oh!

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, that was a terrible pitch he struck out on.

Off to contemplate what to write in the recap.

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by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cubs committed a shutout for the first time yesterday

and get shut out for the first time today.

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by northsider on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just wasn't our day.

Get a good rest tomorrow and get back to work on Tues.

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ack.

An ugly swing to end an ugly game. Rest up and get the Brewers. I’m back to paper-writing. Thanks for the procrastination opportunity!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

honestly, it looked like the cubs just played themselves, and lost, that game was all in their heads

by dogcatratcheese on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Had our chances today...

RISP.

by cublessinmilwaukee on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The bright side... (and there is one)

The Cubs, even though they’ve lost 3 of 4, are still in first place. They have a much needed day off tomorrow, then a home series vs. the Brewers—and they’ve been great at home.

Also, Lilly pitched well, Wuertz’s slider looked better, Kerry looked like Kerry, and there weren’t any bad plays defensively.

Hitting is the most consistent aspect of baseball, and it’s very likely that 5 guys will get red-hot at home.

Let’s put this one in the rear view mirror and go get the Brewers on Tuesday.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Apr 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Very well said.

by sue369 on Apr 27, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look.

The spread in talent between major league ballclubs is pretty small when you take a step back and look at it from a distance; the Nationals only look like a really bad ballclub when you compare them to other major league teams. And even then, we tend to exaggerate the difference in quality between two teams.

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. The good teams tend to win more and the bad teams tend to lose more, but that’s over a 162 game season. In ONE game, any team in the majors, even the Giants, has enough talent to win.

It’s not a problem about “being in their heads,” or being tired, or being mentally weak, or whatever character defects the armchair shrinks like to ascribe to sheer random chance. This happens, and it happens all the time. The difference between the best and worst record in baseball last season was only sixty games of 162.

What you do is you tip your cap to the other team, and you move on to play the next game.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

The old saying goes, everyone wins 1/3 of their games, everyone loses 1/3, it’s what you do with the other 1/3 that makes the difference.

Count this as the 1/3 that’s just one of those lost games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 27, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed, however

should have won at least another one against this team though..

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are going to be games this team should win but won't.

But there will also be games they should lose that they’ll win. It doesn’t always even itself out over the season, but normally it does. So far the Cubs have won as many games as they “should have,” according to the Pythagoran theorum, so I’m not really concerned about it yet.

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by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In fact

This series had one of each…

by techne on Apr 27, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

shit

and there goes Andre Woodson to the Giants

way to go Angelo..

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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But we got a new DT!

So, now the Bears have 6 safeties, 5 DT’s (Oshinowo, Adams, Harris, Dvoracek, and the new guy, and it’s actually 6 if you count Idonije), and 4 TE’s (Olsen, Clark, Gilmore, and the new guy). Jerry Angelo, what are you doing?

I’m not sold on Woodson, as I think he’s still pretty raw, but it would’ve been nice to see the Bears try and get Henne or Brohm.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our defense did suck last season, you know.

Dvoracek was awful last season. And sure, we had six safeties, but a Venn diagram of the Bears safeties from last season that was sorted into “Healthy” and “Good” would have had minimal overlap at best.

Quarterback is not the biggest problem the Bears have right now, and without a good support system, it does not matter who is playing QB. Getting a good line and some weapons is a bigger priority. The tight end does confound me a little, but whatever.

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by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can you say Dvoracek was awful last season?

He didn’t play. He was hurt. He was pretty good in preseason, but there’s always the competition concern there. Indict him for his health issues, but there’s no way you can say he was awful in season in which he didn’t play. the defense was bad because Lovie kept playing Archuleta and Nat Vasher and Tillman spent time hurt, not because there was a depth problem. QB is not the biggest, the biggest is that an offense predicated on play-action passing got no run production, partly because of a poor o-line and partly because the RB’s sucked. I’m glad Angelo shored up the o-line and I like the Forte pick, but drafting a DT and a S is just superfluous and silly, and I loved Stultz’ play at LSU last year. I think he is a susceptible in pas coverage as Archuleta is, though he’s a much smarter player, IMO.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember last season

when everyone was saying that we needed an OL man, but Angelo refused to get one until I think the sixth round. Look at our offensive line last season as a re

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by Chanman25 on Apr 27, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's up with Beekman, anyway?

If he’s that bad, why did Angelo draft him? And if he’s not that bad, then why didn’t he play?

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by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beekman's a guard/center...

...which was not the problem with the line last season. We needed to upgrade at the tackles.

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by cwyers on Apr 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not sure how that's relevant,

since I made no mention of him playing tackle. At any rate, he should’ve played when the season was lost, especially if they knew they were going to cut Ruben Brown. I’m not very comfortable with the idea of Metcalf in the starting lineup. The tackles, I think are upgraded now. Tait is a better RT than LT, so that’s fixed and Williams, by all accounts, should be able to step right in and start. Here’s hoping he’s not a Stan Thomas redux.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Apr 27, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs