Open Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Tuesday 4/29, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 29, 2008 4:00 PM CDT
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PrintMilwaukee Brewers at Chicago Cubs, Apr 29, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
"If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Chicago". For those of you under 40, that's a reference to this 1969 screwball comedy in which a group of European travelers visited seven countries in 18 days. The Cubs will do that a couple days faster, playing in Chicago, Denver, Washington, Chicago, St. Louis, Cincinnati and Chicago again in a period of 16 days (April 22 through May 9).
Now tell me again why computers schedule better than people?
Baseball note: the Brewers' Mike Cameron's 25-game suspension ended on Sunday; he'll be activated and play tonight.
Hey, remember jacob from Brew Crew Ball? Yeah, I know. Anyway, he sent me a few questions about the Cubs and you can read my answers here.
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Sheets and Carlos Zambrano matched zeroes on Opening Day in a game that the Brewers eventually won. Since then Sheets has thrown great -- when he's been healthy; he hasn't pitched in 11 days. If it seems as if he is always pitching against the Cubs, he pretty much is -- Sheets has made 23 career starts vs. the Cubs, 12% of all his career starts. He's 9-7 lifetime, 3.70, and Derrek Lee hits him well (15-for-47, 2 doubles, 5 HR, .319/.313/.681, and no, that OBA isn't a misprint -- that's what happens when you have zero walks and a sacrifice fly).
Jason Marquis will have to be "on" tonight -- he doesn't have that much success vs. the Brewers (4-6, 4.01 in 13 career starts). The pesty Craig Counsell (8-for-21, 2 doubles, a triple, a HR, 4 walks, no strikeouts) hits him well. Marquis might be able to help himself -- he's 1-for-4 (a double) vs. Sheets.
Today's game is on cable in Chicago and in Wisconsin and as usual, more at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's overflow comment thread will post at 8:30 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Those were some obnoxious questions, which you answered pretty ably, Al. Ever think of running for office?
We can turn the tables on Jacob, e.g.:
1. Jacob, in two years will Prince Fielder grow up into a blimp?
2. How does it feel always having to look a few miles south of you to see a popular National League baseball club always in the limelight? Is that why Brewers fan have an inferiority complex?
3. Is their a correlation between the price of cheese and Brewers’ ticket prices?
4. Is Braun getting used to playing left field?
5. How is your relief pitching holding up? Has Gagne learned how to tuck in his shirt yet?
By winning the division running away
while the collective Brewer fans base dries their tears with Prince Fielder’s jersey and Eric Gagne’s contract.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
The answer to the second half of #5...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I see you are on your game tonight...
...sir. Well done.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Comment from Brew Crew Ball..
Cruised over to bleedcubbieblue Reading their gameday thread, I can’t tell if its more like middle school or some sort of devolution like Omega Man.
There is actually a bunch of them that are offended because Gagne doesn’t keep his shirt tucked in
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
well
I’m kinda offended that he doesn’t tuck his shirt in. Yes, it’s a game, but it’s one with a long and honorable history, and the uniform should be respected…
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Al, your answers made those questions seem better than they were.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Brewfan2
..had a good comment..”There was some fire in most of those answers”. ..haha…Go Al!!
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
It's gonna be a cold one
maybe this means Sheets won’t be able to loosen up his bothersome triceps muscle.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Wanted to read your answers, Al...
But every time I try to to Brew Crew Ball, it’s blocked by our firewall here at work. “Adult/Mature” content. Ha. Whatever that means. Maybe it has something to do with beer?
Dear Cubs hitters,
Sheets, oft-injured as he is, will be on a pitch count tonight (unless, of course Ned Yost is dumber than I imagine him to be). Please be patient, and get him pulled early, because that Brewers bullpen is delectable. Be patient, then feast on the ‘pen. That is all.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Great advice
One of the joys of this years team is that, so far, their approach seems to be in line with what you just wrote.
by SuperContext on Apr 29, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Sheets is good
I really hate to see him do well against the Cubs, and I really hate to see him win for the Brewers period. But I have to say, as a pitcher, I admire that the guy has the kind of stuff he has with pinpoint control. When he’s healthy anyway…..if he could stay healthy, that’d be scary.
Ummm....
Those questions were less than friendly.
I have a question for Jacob:
What will Brewers fans think in two or three years when they are unable to sign all of their young talent?
Or where were the Brewers fans
before last year!!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
yup
nothing wrong with early 90s slang
by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 29, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
more like..
late 60’s slang…still good tho..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Bizarro BCB member disagrees!
Nice work on the questions. You know you have a pretty heated rivalry when you ask those type of questions and get those type of responses. There was some fire in most of those answers.We should re-visit these questions for the final series at Miller Park. It will be interesting to see what kind of responses there will be then.
Yep, Al. Those were some REALLY fiery answers there! Watch out!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
So called Brewers fans
are some of the biggest band wagon jumpers I’ve ever witnessed. All of a sudden they are die hard, baseball fanatics. Yea, right. Where were you several years ago?
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
Why do I feel like...
...we are playing A LOT of games at home?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
just wait till september when you won’t be feeling that way anymore.
Stupid computer schedulers!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
I'm surprised
that jacob didn’t grill you on your relationship with the Reverend Wright. Those weren’t questions, they were insults.
These are the Brewer fans that I grew up with that made me a Cubs fan.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
Jason Marquis
If Marquis was half as scary on the mound as he is in that picture we would have nothing to worry about tonight.
"You would never guess that a little innocent walk like that could lead to two runs" -- Dusty Baker
I think he looks....distinguished.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
but of course.
and if it isn’t, it should be.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
What do you do for a living??
Web designer? Graphics??
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Yeah..I'm the IT guy for a printing company...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers aren't going anywhere
Not with that bullpen, which shapes up to be among the worst in baseball. Eric Gagne is a $10 million gas can. Combined with the stupid big money contracts also dealt to Mike Cameron (they don’t need him), Guillermo Moto and David Riske???? Little payroll flexibility to fix what ails that pen.
Lineups
Brewers
Weeks, 2B
Cameron, CF
Braun, LF
Fielder, 1B
Hart, rF
Hall, 3B
Hardy, SS
Sheets, P
Kendall, C
Cubs
Johnson, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Soto, C
Pie, CF
Marquis, P
He may not get 2 hits off Sheets...
but he will take away at least 2 base hits playing center.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Says who?
Reed Johnson is capable enough in center field. Felix Pie might be a good center fielder, but his defensive prowess is WAY overblown. It’s his fan club over-compensating for the fact that he can’t hit his way out of a paper bag.
Spoken like a true fan.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
way overblown?
he’s got a cannon for an arm and ridiculously good range.
now his arm could get more accurate. and he will learn to get better jumps and take better routes. but that just means he’s only gonna get better, not that he’s not good nw.
Johnson is capable...
But Ward really isn’t capable of playing the outfield, too much of a liability. We’ve seen enough Dwaryle adventures out in right this year.
''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 29, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Says who?
Daryle Ward is capable enough in the outfield. He might not be a good outfielder, but his defensive liabilities are WAY overblown. It’s his fan club over-compensating for the fact that he let’s too many catchable balls drop in front of him, has limited range and is a pure station to station runner on the bases.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
Well played.
''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 29, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Johnson in left
and Pie in center is MUCH better than Ward in left and Johnson in center.
Even college ball should have taught you that.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
WELCOME BACK!!
Cameron! One of two (Neifi) second offense users!!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
That is why you arn't manager.
This is the outfield we should have been playing the whole time while Soriano is hurt. Gets Pie experience and have a great defensive outfield.
and watch him
one-hop EVERY fly-ball to him?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah... Kendall catching & hitting in the 9th spot I see
Another career day @ Wrigley for Jason I wonder?
So sad...
This is exactly the sort of half-assed, poorly edited and fact-checked, mean-spirited nonsense that will always keep that site to nothing more than Jeff, and a dozen of his drunk neighbors. I won’t be surprised at all if SB Nation wakes up soon, and goes with another Brewers blogger; someone that can at least attract hits.
Nice job guys; you had a nice chance to market your site, and attract some new visitors, but you decide to to go low brow, and play the penis-envying little brother role.
I was thinking the same thing
that I was surprised that SB had someone like him as the Brewer blogger.
by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 29, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
that’s like giving me my SB site…a bad idea.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
At least you're..
entertaining, and generally not insulting or offending. Generally. None of the above can be said about them.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I’m usually very specifically insulting and particularly offending.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that's funny...
Though the dancing Jesus the other day was a bit much. Just saying.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Board Member of my local congregation...
I have to say…he was “tap dancing”. Just saying.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 29, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff's a great baseball mind...
...and his work over at places like The Hardball Times and Beyond the Boxscore is topnotch; he also runs the excellent MinorLeagueSplits.com.
[Although I should note for the record that I don’t think he likes me.]
I'm familiar with his work..
which makes it all the more telling that he can’t get more than his drunk neighbors and high-school friends to join (or stay on) that site.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that Josh Kalk hangs out there...
...and he does some great Pitch F/X work. I think the guy from Recondite Baseball posts there, too. I won’t deny that some of the people over there are rather aggravating (roguejim comes to mind), but you could say the same about any site, including this one. (There are some amazing trolls at Baseball Think Factory, and I’m pretty sure that the winners of the “commenting while drunk” contest are probably on Deadspin.)
by cwyers on Apr 29, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woo-hoo!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I'm guessing
that the reason you don’t like Brew Crew Ball is that it’s a Brewers site, aimed at Brewers fans, and sometimes we like to make fun of Cubs/Cubs fans. Some of it’s in good natured fun, and some perhaps is over the line. The thing is, we’re not particularly concerned if you’re offended about what we say about the Cubs, because we didn’t seek you out to tell you what we said about it. You went there on you’re own. It’s not like it doesn’t get hits. It’s constantly growing, especially with SBN 2.0 rolling out. The community there is awesome- I’m sure you don’t see it, but that’s because you’re a Cubs fan. If Jeff were to get replaced (involuntarily), I’m sure a) no one would have seen it coming b) a lot of people would be up in arms and c( I don’t have a c. If all you’ve done is read what Jeff has said in Brewers vs. Cubs game threads, you’re missing out on a lot of the information he’s provided us with, which is a shame.
In short, if you don’t like it, don’t go there. But trust from the perspective of a Brewers fan, it’s a great site.
Also, I’m ok with being a penis-envying little brother, because that means yours is going to get small and shriveled long before mine! YES!!!! Going out with a penis joke!!
"The thing is...we didn't seek you out to tell you what we said about it."
Welcome to BleedCubbieBlue!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
You're right
And I was aware of my hypocrisy while writing it, but I do peruse this site to get people’s opinions on what’s happening with their team, much like I do with most of the blogs on SBN. I just figured I’d post it, even though I was reluctant to. Plus, I don’t often get to use a penis joke, which is a plus.
I thought it was a reasonable statement.
I’m glad you’re finding what you want as a fan of your team there, and you put it as diplomatically as you could. I know I appreciated your being civil. That said, I hope your team loses. : )
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I was more of just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.
You’re welcome of course.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I'm 34...
and my penis is worthy of envy, I assure you.
And yet here you are. It says much that not only are you here reading our replies, but feel the need to comment. Happy trolling.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah..you're right..
That might have been a bit much. No more gutter.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not trolling
if I don’t try to bait people with stupid comments, and I posted it in a civil manner. Also, if you had read my other post, I said that I read this site for opinions from a different angle- not just this site either, but other SBN sites. And I felt the need to comment to clarify. Not to call names, not to try to anger anybody. To clarify something that I thought was an uninformed opinion- more specifically, what you said about Jeff, because I read him on a daily basis, whereas I’m guessing you read him the 15ish times a year when the Brewers play the Cubs.
Also, thanks for letting me know about what you’re packing (I guess?)
You need to re-read my posts...
and perhaps some of my other comments on this board. I have no problem with the Brewers. I’m a baseball fan, and follow most teams quite a bit. And actually, someone that I respect spoke very highly of Jeff last year, so I tried following him for about a month. Frankly though, I found the one-sided, opinionated slant of that site a real turn-off; Little to nothing to do with me being a Cubs fan; it’s just not a good forum for ideas and diverse views. And a few of your posters are belligerent and nasty.
It would have been nice to find out that this has changed. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like it though.
by Damen Jackson on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to (try to) end with this:
Perhaps it’s one-sided because it’s not a general baseball blog- it’s a Brewers blog. I don’t know how many times I have to say this to get you to understand that.
If you don’t like it, there are other Brewers blogs. Go there instead.
LOL..
If nothing else it would be a visual feast..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Just wonderin'
Lou has Pie in CF and RJ in LF. Is this a two game audition for Felix? It would be very easy (and justifiable) for Lou to move RJ back to CF when Sori returns. He’s been doing great as a lead-off man and would give us a high OBP at #2.
I would hate to see Felix get buried forever (or sent down), but OTOH, Lou is being paid to win games with this high-payroll team.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
ESPN?
Anyone else seeing College Gameday Live on ESPN instead of a baseball game in Chicago?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Wow, sorry.
I totally misread the previous post. It’s tomorrow on ESPN.
Man, I was looking forward to watching all day.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Oh, look, an extra base hit.
Good thing Mike Cameron doesn’t use steroids. God knows how many jokes you could make about him if he used steroids.
stimulants?
not steroids? right?
he says it was from a “supplement” not a greenie.
then again he was dumb enough to get caught twice, so no reason to trust a moron.
Wasn't it stimulants?
Or was it steroids..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
oy, gave away a run
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
damn
should have been third out on fielder, oh well
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
How are the Brewers only 2 out?
look at those BA’s. Not a guy over .300 and only one close.
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
wait, except kendall (WTF?)
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm
Johnson missed the “make him throw a lot of pitches” memo
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
11 days Itchy
but I agree. Hope Reed was watching D-Lee’s AB just now.
Patience boys, let this guy throw his arm out early…
According to BB, Sheets hasn’t been on the mound since his last start 11 days ago. The side session was on flat ground.
We need the Fukudome effect tonight.
So long as we have so many Brewers fans around...
...could one of you tell me who got sent down to make room for Cameron? Was it Kapler or Gwynn?
(I’m halfway kidding. But seriously, who got sent down?)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Click the link
It will set you free.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Well I guess you guys are winning the division this season...
...if you really have 13 pitchers better than Dave Bush.
It's pretty controversial
well, as much as a Dave Bush assignment can be controversial, I guess.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Interesting...
Pat just noted that Sheets has never won more than 12 games in a season…Didn’t know that..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
You gotta think Ben Sheets is gonna be held to around 80 pitches.
Certainly around 100. Despite what they say. That being said, nice to make him throw over 20 the first inning.
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
You have to think that their bullpen is well rested.
Well, at least, SOMEONE in their bullpen has to be well rested. I think they’re still at 13 pitchers.
evidently...
...I’m about 45 seconds behind you guys. I’m watching on mlb.tv. I’m assuming most of you are watching on cable.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
nope, a convoy loop of carrier pigeons circling between Wrigley and Evanston. you should see what i pay in birdfeed.
yes, Comcast
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Watching..
the radio….it’s ..like really fast..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
But..
no replays either…at least on mine..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
The runner was just reaching halfway when Marquis looked to 2nd.
No play? I thought he might have had a shot but he did a nice job of getting the sure out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
a little further than half
mighta got him, but you don’t want 1st and 2nd no out
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think a good throw gets him
but like you said, why risk it. Especially now that he’s ended the inning with 0 runs.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
haha yeah
hindsight is 20/20
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
True,
but I was saying “GET HIM!!” as the play developed. haha
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
out of it
Dero-Soto-Pie comingg up
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions
RIP, Strikeout Bat.
I don’t want to know what he did to that one. shudder : )
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Anyone having a lot of problems with Gameday Audio?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
ugh...2 seconds here, 3 seconds there.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Hey, Bildo!
Wjat do you think about the Modric signing. Rumor is Berbs will be sold and Villa and Kameni are coming!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
LOVE Modric
Do you think he’ll start on the left or center?
I think Berbs is all but gone, but I just don’t understand what his place will be at Man U
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Center, most likely.
Hopefully, this means an end to Juande putting Keane so deep
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Gameday
Is anyone else having problems with Gameday?
you mean besides the usual?
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
they broke the interwebs
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
there we go
back to back hits
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
well here is pie
come on pie
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
I'd think about having pie bunt
if I thought pie could bunt
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
You want Pie to advance the runners for Marquis?
I know Marquis hits well for a pitcher, but seriously.
SQUEEZE?
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sheets can't find the strike zone with a flashlight right now...
...and you need a strike to put the squeeze in order. No way.
SQUEEZE?
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
sheets seems really off tonight
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
just put the ball on the ground
preferably up the middle
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
or in the air out of the infield, obv
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Up on his own power
going back to the bench. Marquis safe at first, Soto at 3rd, Dero scored, one out, Johnson is up.
if it is it's a pulled groin
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
For a guy who had "testicular torsion" earlier this year...
yeah, probably
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I can't help but grimace reading those words
ugh
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Better than Kaz Matsui's anal fissure.
Trust me.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
dear lord stop
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like his right thigh to me.
Hopefully no worse than a charley horse. Also, did anyone else notice that it looked like one of the buttons on his shirt got pulled off in the collision? Or was it unbuttoned to begin with?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
They're talking about Reed's facial hair "soul patch".
I’ll put up with it as long as he doesn’t bull a Spiezio and dye it red or blue. Sweet mercy.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Sure looked like a guy who got whacked in the junk to me.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
Johnson converts w/ sac fly
2-1 cubs
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
Lou Brown's gonna make Theriot do even more push-ups for that fly ball.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Patience son, patience
Riot had a chance there, too bad.
2-1 end 2. Sheets doubled his pitch count, 44 now.
sheets might last two more innings
he does NOT have it tonight
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
i love seeing 44 pitches and the lead through 2
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 29, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
sooner we get to the brew-crew bullpen the better
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
All 14 of 'em!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
i wouldn't trade marmol for the lot of 'em
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't blame you
He’s a monster. I’m jealous.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Not even for Gagne?
I keed i keed
"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP
UMPIRING CHANGE
Looks like the HP umpire is taking himself out. On-field delay while one of the base umpires suits up in the gear. Pie is still in, looks fine. Cubs are coming off the field while they wait on the umpires.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
is this good
or bad for Sheets?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
can't be good
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
nope. back in center
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
aside from getting whacked in the junk
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
No clue.
He had Milwaukee indented, but I didn’t see what he was trying to spell out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
This posted in the wrong place. Come on SBN 2.0
Go go gadget comment!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Sign in the Crowd:
CUBS
SLAY
MILWAUKEE
NEMESIS
Yikes. Get that kid on medication, stat.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Boo to you, sir.
What is CSMN, anyway?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
He had Milwaukee indented, so down the line it read C-S-N.
comcast sports net of course! CLEVER!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Ah, didn't think about the indent.
Hoping for the best, I guess.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
he probably means
CSN. Trying to get on TV.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
geez start the game already
len and bob are losing it
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
Changed my mind.
rougejim is fine. battlekow, on the other hand, did not graduate at the top of his class in charm school.
What are you referring to?
I’ve been bouncing back and forth, didn’t really see anything from battlekow that was too bad, what did I miss?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Wow I've never seen putting umpire equipment on take so long before.
Except maybe some of the larger ones, who have a staff to help put it on. But anyway, this is taking forever. Maybe they had to drive back to the hotel to get it?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I'm watching Man U-Barca on my DVR while I listen.
Wish I got CSN.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Cameron
grounded into the hole, tough throw for Theriot, reached Lee on several hops.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
only way they get cameron is if ramirez gets to it
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a bouncing grounder, just hit to the right spot
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't often see Theriot make a thorw that poor...
...because you don’t see him make it behind the third baseman that often.
He must have worked on his throws with Juan Pierre.
Oooo, BURN
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Theriot
haters are gunna love that throw
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue" - George F. Will
can't fault him for that
there’s no way to get cameron from that deep in the hole
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
For those of you able to see the game...
is Sheets just off? lots of BBs for him. Or are the Cubs uber-patient?
"Awakened by the clatter, the startled (Hack) Wilson, thinking the ball had been hit, jumped up, tore after the ball, scooped it up, and threw a perfect throw to second base. Gales of laughter erupted in the stands.
Combination of both, I'd say.
Pretty tough task for Sheets, coming back from injury in this weather.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
sac fly, 2-2, runner on third with one out
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
7-0 Cardinals
Bottom 2 against the Reds
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Hart tripled to RF.
MLW 3
CHC 2
Marquis ain’t foolin’ anybody out there right now.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Jason,
Locate head, remove from hindquarters. Pitch like a major leaguer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No unfamiliar,
Just hoping he can at least manage to pitch well in the first half of the season, as he is wont to do.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Apparently
no grammar, as well. Yeesh.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Smash single up the middle
past a diving Theriot. Hit for Hall, 4-2 Brewers. Out comes Rothschild.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Pastadiving Theriot!
That guy is always diving. And coming up empty.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
If this becomes a bullpen battle...
....you gotta like our chances. That Brewers pen is ugly.
Upon the replay,
Theriot should have made a play on it. He at least could have got in front of it. Instead he waited for it to make a hop and it never did. That looked bad.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Re:
That looked bad.
Well, it is Ryan Theriot…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
What is the consensus on Theriot?
I was under the impression that Theriot was pretty good, or at least decent for a middle infielder, but he doesn’t get a lot of love on here, I don’t think. Why is that?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
He's bad at baseball.
He’s a fourth IF who’s got a starting gig and it shows.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Oh
Yeah, I can see that. He hits OK, though, for what he is - you probably could do worse.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Probably true.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Not really.
He had something like a 71 OPS last season. Maybe you could do worse, but by how much?
It’s a raterh controversial topic among Cubs fans, really.
Everyone needs a scapegoat
I like him
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I like your answer better.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
not to make too much of an excuse, but they really are getting perfect placement on their hits
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 29, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
true, but you know
just seems like one of those games where they hit it, and it drops, or gets through, like that cameron weak ground ball to start the inning
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 29, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for Lou...
... to take Jason to task in the post game presser. This is a big game against a division opponent. The team gave him a lead and he gave it back. Marquis has had his chance to wine to the media.
DmL
Especially after his
“I deserve a spot” whining during ST.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
only positive i can see is that maybe this really long break screws with Sheets
seems like it may have thrown Marquis off a little
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 29, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
I wish that Marquis was that fine tuned of a machine....
...get Sheets here and lets get some runs!
Felix Pie must play everyday!
When was the last time
we beat Sheets at Wrigley?
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
At a glance...
It looks like April last year.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200704250.shtml
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
But...
He didn’t take the loss in that game. I think the last time we pinned an “L” on him was in April 2005.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200504090.shtml
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Tapper back to Marquis
Finally out of it. Gave up 3 runs on 4 H.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I have'nt made up my mind if Jason is inconsistently good or just bad
I know the Cardinal fans liked to call him “Bipolar Betty”. He had a long time-out before this inning. Maybe that hurt him. But he really wasn’t pitching exceedingly well before that.
He's actually
consistently mediocre.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Jason Marquis isn't a particularly gifted pitcher.
He relies on his defense almost entirely – if the defense has a good night behind him, he ends up looking good; if the defense lets him down, he has nothing to fall back upon.
Quite right
Sinker-ball pitchers tend to be that way.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 29, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
The specific issue with Marquis as a sinkerball pitcher...
...is that he has an unlikable tendency to “miss” with his sinker and fatten up a home run pitch rather often. He gives up way too many well-hit fly balls to be consistently successful as a groundball pitcher.
DEEEEEEEEE LEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
well this game is going to be a back and forth match
4-3
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
locked in
booyah!
"Awakened by the clatter, the startled (Hack) Wilson, thinking the ball had been hit, jumped up, tore after the ball, scooped it up, and threw a perfect throw to second base. Gales of laughter erupted in the stands.
OPPS
must be the tofu burgers
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
Prince probably took his..
...eye off the ball while looking for sausages in the stands!
:)
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi
walk
to Ramirez
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
Keep building that pitch count
Can’t wait to see Gagne
by VillanuevaExperience on Apr 29, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions
HAHA
Fielder missed that ball cuz his belly hit the railing haha
"He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His donor card also lists his beard. He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's also a fighter so don't get any ideas. He is....The Most Interesting Man in the World.
we should be running wild on kendall
as payback for last year
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
I think Soto could steal on Kendall
by VillanuevaExperience on Apr 29, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Could Villanueva steal on Kendall???
n/t
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Magic 8 Ball says:
No.
Sorry, Hector.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
What if Maddux was on the mound?
n/t
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hector
wouldn’t have gotten on base against Rich Hill
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Maybe.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
dome should be going
why isn’t he being sent?
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
another error!
Soto time!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
rats
i just updated my sig and I see we Hector’s in the house!! Back to the drawing board
"Hector Villanuh... Villanoo... Villanova coming to bat" -- H Caray
You could always do
Harry pronouncing “Vizcaino”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Hector was a big boy,
he can handle a little love from all of us.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
DANG
bases loaded
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
based loaded
for Boston Cream Pie!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
no.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
agreed. nickname vetoed.
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Though it would be nice
if he “creamed” the pitch from Sheets.
Get it?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Braun tries to field routine fly balls a couple times a game, too.
you both fail.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Braun actually seems to be doing pretty well out in left so far this season.
His RZR and OOZ plays are both pretty respectable. Which isn’t too suprising – left field is a lot easier defensively than third base.
Seconded.
Horrid nickname attempt.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I think Sheets is afraid of pitching to Pie haha
"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP
Nice job Felix
n/t
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
let's make this a marquee AB!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
oh god you're on a roll
and not in a good way :)
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You're on quite a roll
with the corny puns tonight!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
My, you're persistent
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
two errors in this inning
and don’t even get me started on their relief pitching
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
No one wants to win this game.
Both teams beating themselves, IMO.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I was at the end...
I don’t really like either team. A lucky goal wins it? Not exactly the great game I was hoping for.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Yeah.
both sides plyed like asses, and Barca just hands it to ManU. At least there’s an all-England final…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Oh, but
La Liga is the best league in the world.
Psshht.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
HA!
Well played. You have to admit they play some beautiful footy in La Liga, though…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It's pretty.
But…I can’t stand all the flopping and the reluctance to play physical.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Yep.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I REALLY hope Liverpool wins tomorrow.
I don’t want to have to root for Chelski
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I will root for ManU
if Chelsea wins.
ONE TEAM IN LONDON AND IT’S TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR!!
Chelsea are pants.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
As always, you're right.
Ugh, Liverpool better pull this off. I may refuse to acknowledge there’s a game in Moscow if it’s Man U-Chelski.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
HA!
Maybe that’s a better approach!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Uh, real lucky.
bad pass ricochets to Scholes, he even bumbles the trap, hits a shot on the outside of his foot and it finds upper 90.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Keep racking up the pitches
and get to the pen early.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Has anyone
ever accused Jason Marquis of a pitcher’s duel before?
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Apr 29, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
favorite part of the game so far, seeing sheets rely way too much on the scouting report on Soto
after the bad weekend, and pitching him breaking balls only, so far the results are a single and a walk.
by dogcatratcheese on Apr 29, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
Sheets at 72 pitches.
Yost can’t stick with him much longer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
i'll be surprised if he sees the fifth
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis stil in?
sigh… At some point, we’re going to really start utilizing Lieber properly…
2008: The year we put it all together.
works for me.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 29, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Real quick
without looking at the comments above, why the long delay? Crawford not well?
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Hope he's okay.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Len just said...
He wasn’t feeling well and is on the way to the hospital.
''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 29, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice play Riot
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
Rickie hits a "week" ball to Theriot
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
you're gonna hurt yourself
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by RightFieldSucks on Apr 29, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You, me, whatever.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Marquis back on target?
Quick, take him out before he decides to change his mind!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Have faith
fellow Cubbie fans. Jason will come through tonight. The sinker will start to work and we will win 8-4
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Mike "camerun"ing to 1b but was forced out before he made it
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Nice inning for
Jason.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
damn
I though Lee had that one
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
Overflow thread is up
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
Braun bunt single
Is that really a Hatori Hansu bat?
Really
is this the best the NL central has to offer?
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
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