Feel Better Now?
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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Everyone back in off the ledge?
Good! Nice to see you inside and safe. And warm, too. Brrr. It was cold today -- Jeff entered and announced that he was going to sit in RF today "where it's warmer in the sun". Too bad the sun vanished not long after game time and I can't imagine it was any warmer there than it was in LF.
No matter. The Cubs beat the Brewers 6-3 this afternoon, their first win of 2008. (Note: the Cubs 15th win this year, whenever it occurs, will be the 10,000th win in club history.)
The team clicked on all cylinders today, even after another one of those "here we go again" first innings. Ryan Dempster has always walked too many hitters, and he walked Rickie Weeks to lead off the game. When Tony Gwynn doubled, it was "uh-oh, what next?" What was next was a sacrifice fly, scoring Weeks, but when he bowled over Geovany Soto, Soto couldn't hold on to Kosuke Fukudome's throw and Gwynn also scored, leaving Dome with a tough error.
But that was it. Dempster faced 21 more batters and retired 18 of them, allowing two harmless singles and one more walk. He looked sharp after those first two batters, and threw strikes -- 60 out of 91 pitches. Well done, Mr. Dempster. Do it again next time out. Dempster's only other bad note was his two poor at-bats -- fouling a bunt for strike three on his first attempt, and then trying to bunt through strike three on his next (trying to catch the Brewers by surprise, I think, because I don't think anyone expected him to bunt in that 4th-inning AB). Give the guy a bit of a break for those, as he has had only 14 at-bats in the last two-plus years, since he became the Cubs' closer.
What I quibbled with at the time of that 2nd AB was not asking Felix Pie to try a squeeze, with the bases loaded and nobody out. Bill Hall was playing back at third; they weren't expecting it, and with the score tied, it would have been an easy way to score. Fortunately, Alfonso Soriano drew a bases-loaded walk to give the Cubs the lead, their first lead of the year.
Read that again: Soriano drew a walk with the bases loaded. Excellent at-bat, and he had another RBI in the sixth, flaring a single that landed between Ryan Braun and J. J. Hardy. Incidentally, as bad as Braun was at third base last year defensively, he appears to be just as bad a left fielder. He didn't make any errors today, but he seemed lost even on balls he got to, bobbling a couple and kind of "surrounding" the ball. (He had no chances at all today.) I think the Brewers are going to have to trade him to an AL team in a couple of years, because he appears to be a born DH.
When Carlos Marmol -- and I'm still a bit worried about him, because today he didn't have real good command, just as he didn't have much in spring training -- allowed a run in the 8th, it created a save situation for Kerry Wood, with a three-run lead. Wood loped in from the bullpen to an ovation -- well, it would have been an ovation if anywhere near the 37,973 announced was in the ballpark; it probably was never more than about 20,000 today, and by the 8th, about half of that number had left -- and dispatched the Brewers efficiently, allowing a two-out single to Craig Counsell and then getting Jason Kendall on a called third strike to end the game.
That was Wood's first major league save. Let it be the first of about forty this year.
We were joined today by BCB reader lalocp -- who had given me some email help when my computer had a virus a couple of months ago -- and a friend of his, and also another couple who we just met and who said they'd sit with us again tomorrow. A couple of other BCB readers again stopped by to say hi. Despite the cold -- and we apparently have just missed a large amount of rain which is going to go through overnight -- it's always nice for your team to get that first victory of the season, to not let opening losses grow too far or too fast. Rich Hill faces Chris Sampson tomorrow, as the Astros come to town.
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Great to get a win under the belt....
Now let's get a streak going.
by LT on Apr 3, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Loud, sustained applause.
Of which there was quite a bit at the ballpark this afternoon.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more win to .500
Hopefully the Cubs will also have fifteen wins by April 26 (extreme stretch, huh?) so I can see it in DC
Finally!
by Chanman25 on Apr 3, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact:
Today is the reverse of this game on May 29th, 2006 in which Kerry got the Win and Dempster the Save.
by Neifi Puppy on Apr 3, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That game was...
... Wood's last win as a starting pitcher.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see that W!
OT: the Iowa Cubs home opener was snowed out. No, I didn't stutter... it was snowed out.
Oh well, I guess I played hookey for nothing.
It was nice to hear Santo on the radio say something instead of "AWW... JEEEZ!"
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
by IowaCubs- on Apr 3, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really expected some plunkings today,
and boy, was I wrong. I was sure Yost would take a shot at Lee and/or Dome, but maybe he felt the demolition of Soto on the play at the plate sent the proper message...or maybe he's biding his time. At any rate, it's nice to see a good game carry through unmarred by any beanball bullcrap.
Ryan Braun is completely inept in the field. They're going to have to move him in the near future and Corey Hart's arm was really exposed today. I've always thought of him as a pretty good defender but he made some really poor throws today.
Wood looked good and Dempster was really strong after the first. Bring on the Astros!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 3, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the Brewers are great at drafting...
...designated hitters. Perhaps they're looking to return to the AL Central?
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
by IowaCubs- on Apr 3, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braun's really the only one.
Other than the throwing problems, Hart's a really good defender in RF, Hardy is sharp at SS, and Fielder, for his size, is not too bad at 1B. Braun just looks clueless on defense. He's a Travis Hafner clone.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 3, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who hits righthanded.
That's a very good comparison.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt LaPorta
The Brewers #1 prospect is a college first baseman who they are trying out in left field and will probably be a DH in six years. But the guy can hit for both average and power.
There is no way the Brewers can get Fielder, Braun and LaPorta on the field at the same time, unless they go back to the American League.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on Apr 3, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes!!
as a matter of fact i do feel a whole lot better. we hadnt had a victory for a while
Go CuBs!!!!!!!!!!
by tbizzle83 on Apr 3, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's been like, hmmm... 6 months?
nt
Hector Villanueva's Career Stolen Bases: 1
by IowaCubs- on Apr 3, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won the last game
of spring training.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 3, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant regular season
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Apr 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CMON SB NATION!!!!!
Let's fix that record!!!!!!!
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 3, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
We're working on getting those records to update right after the game ends.
In the meantime you can see current stats on the left sidebar.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al -
I had a couple problems posting on the first game thread... eventually i got through... but i wonder if it has anything to do all with the photos you posted at the top of it? Maybe make sure those are a seperate post in the future?
by bap on Apr 3, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have an answer to that.
Let me check with the tech people and see what they say about that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah there was quite a bit of posting by a lot of users at the same time...
so it may have nothing to do with it... but you never can be sure.
by bap on Apr 3, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just anxious to see #1 on there
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 3, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a relief.
Great to get a win. The fact that we won today (and have something to show for shivering in the cold) allows me to let this go, but I still felt like the Cubs left too many men on base today, and the clutch two-out hits still aren't coming. I was hoping that they would just slaughter the Brewers today and give them something to think about as they left town. In any case, we're 1-2, and hopefully now the players can relax a bit. Time to sweep Houston.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 3, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two runs today...
... both of Soriano's RBI... came with two out.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs had running shoes on
They stole four bases, FOUR! When was the last time that happened?
On another note, I was in my regular season ticket seats today and was surrounded by a woman's high shool dance team. They took alot of pictures(of course standing for them), got up for something alot, and never stopped talking. Not my best game experience, at least they weren't drinking.
by Imtrejo on Apr 3, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure when the last time was....
but I bet the next time it happens is the next time Jason Kendall is behind the plate.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 3, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other embarrassing ex-Cub catcher news,
last night, Lance Berkman stole a base on Michael Barrett.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 3, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barrett was good last night
As always the bases where stolen on Maddux. Barrett ran the bases very well himself
and for those who had suggested Maddux did not like him , it appears that he is in fact
Maddux's personal catcher.
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux's personal catcher.
If I remember correctly (and I usually don't), Blanco was Maddog's personal catcher a couple years ago even though Barrett was obviously on the roster. It would be funny if Maddux stayed away from Barrett in the past and now prefers him over Bard in San Diego.
by bikemonkey on Apr 3, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux nearly always goes with the # 2 catcher
He tends to like to go over stuff in the days before games and I think
he finds 2nd string catchers have more time, He calls his own game 100% and
he can't hold runners on so basically he just want someone do work with him
and if possible get a few hits as he does not really need the catcher to call the
game and even the best can't throw out many runners for him.
For the Padres this season Barrett is # 2 so it works fine.
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cub killers.
Is anyone else as happy as I am to see Jason Kendall get out of town? I know he leaves a lot to be desired behind the plate, but he's back to his old ways as a Cub-killer. He used to kill us when he was with Pittsburgh, and he's doing it again with Milwaukee. And, of course, Craig Counsell, batting 1.000, is no surprise either. One of those guys who would probably break the 56-game hitting streak if he could face the Cubs more often. A decent player, but a career-long Cub killer.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Apr 3, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget how he killed us last year
And he was ON OUR TEAM!
by SuperContext on Apr 3, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see Cory Hart leave also...
that smug grin or grimace, and he always seems to get a hit on us or rob us of an extra base hit. Him, Counsell, Weeks, the whole lot of 'em.
by epcub on Apr 3, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i prefer to call him
double clutch kendall
by cubsmania on Apr 3, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOT
What a great game, first row on the first base line right next to the dugout.
Little cold but was warm inside.
Everything felt right after the top of the first, and Dome isnt human.
by Rudey on Apr 3, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be at the game tomorrow
Not sure what the seats will be like - I just got the offer of an extra ticket from a friend earlier today.
Can't wait to see how Hill looks.... get a first look at Fukudome (I'm in full Kosuke mancrush mode right now)... and see how bad the Astros look this year.
by SuperContext on Apr 3, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I can sleep better tonight
If Dempster can keep pitching like he did today it'll be huge-esp. with Lily's currently missing fastball
by bluekoolaide on Apr 3, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy, happy, happy!
The first one is always the hardest. I hope this will be the last series we lose at home! Time to put a nice winning streak together.
This is our century!
by LAcarl519 on Apr 3, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After witnessing
the game today I come away with this. The Brewers will have the worst defense this season. This will be their downfall this year.
Braun in left is just plain awful, worse than the guy in Cinci. The catcher will be lucky to throw out 10% of runners stealing.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think Their Pitching...
...will be their downfall. And Kendall did look better with handling baserunners... until today.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 3, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
about the pitching being the downfall. Actually in the long haul I think the starting staff will be okay. Middle relief as well as closing okay as well.
But as we know, a bad defense will make the staff look all the worse. The defense will certainly stress the pitching with regards to the Brewers.
As for Kendall handling baserunners. I think we witnessed today just why us Cub fans were so happy he signed with the Brewers. All season long, all teams with any speed at all will be running on the Brewers.
In Kendall's defense though, the last two SB were on the pitcher, not Kendall.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
School is difficult
Trying to explain to kids why a couple of teachers are screaming at the tv after the 1st inning. They weren't around when the Cubs went up for the first time. Let's start a streak and I can hang the W flag out of my office.
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
by FSArkCubsFan on Apr 3, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No I don't
feel better, thank you. We are still 1-2. Long rong ahead to top the .500 level. I will not feel better until the Cubs ruel the league. :)
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah!
they'd have to win tomorrow AND THE NEXT DAY. That would be, you know, three in a row. Tough to do. :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 3, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Win!
I'm glad Dempster pitched well. How did Kerry look? I saw his stats but wondered how he looked.
by McRipper on Apr 3, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
he did look good. I was somewhat concerned when he went to 3-0 on Kendall. But he did come back to get him on a called third strike.
Like I posted elsewhere, let us see him do this in a tighter game. At that point we can determine if we really have something here.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't watch....
there was no broadcasting of Cubs game in Japan this morning, and your daylight game starts 3:15AM in the morning.... currently they're showing Yankees-Bluejays game in HD format....
Anyhow, Dome's playing good? Looks like he keeps good OBP, but there is one fielding error... sounds like it not a big fault, but was bad one?
BTW Today is the biggest day in the decade for Okinawan baseball - Okinawan highschool went final match in Koshien spring national tournament - extra newspaper (PDF) was issued and street will be empty today. We have a super ace pitcher and he is considered as he would become the pitcher of the decade... maybe future Cub ace candidate? ;-)
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 3, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dome's error
Dragon, I couldn't watch, either (in Shanghai). But from what I heard on the radio and read, a tough error and not his fault. The catcher was knocked over by a runner while blocking the plate, and another runner advanced when the ball got away.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 3, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
It shouldn't have been called an error. The throw was a bit high and probably wouldn't have gotten the runner, but Soto had been blasted out of the way before the ball arrived. That was a really tough error by the official scorer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 3, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
a tough error. The run needs to be charged somewhere. Maybe if he would have given Lee a chance to cut the throw, I would cut him some slack. Lee could not cut because the throw was to high. The runner did what he is trained to do, take the catcher out. The ball at that point went bye bye. Not Soto's fault, not Dempster's fault. The run is certainly not earned. So this leaves us with the RF.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me add to
this. In my opinion Soto was out of position. Basically a rookie mistake. He was to far up, when he should have been 3-5 feet behind the baseline. He should have realized that there was no way they would get the runner at the plate.
At that point, he needed only to protect the ball. He put himself in harms way, for which the runner took full advantage.
So I guess you are correct in thinking tough error on Dome. The error charged to him is most likely the results of a rookie catcher's bad call.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Brewers Earned that run
giving such a slam into Soto... lol.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 3, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
It's unusual, but two runs have scored on a sac fly before. The scorer could have scored it that way.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't that happen
just last year to the Cubs?
by gwood on Apr 4, 2008 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might have.
Anyone remember? I don't remember specifically.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 4, 2008 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember
Neifi holding the ball too long and letting a guy score on a pop fly deep in the infield. THAT WAS LOVELY>
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Apr 4, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I hear
the error wasn't Dome's fault. Dome is everything we've heard he was and more. He's a special player and I for one am extremely happy he's playing for the Cubs. Who's this Ace pitcher you are talking about? What's his name?
by McRipper on Apr 3, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Thanks for all clarifications - sounds like a tough play.... was Dome's cannon arm good?
The future-promised pitcher from Okinawa is named Nao Higashihama. See my photostream here for his pitching, and found one YouTube video.
Having great fastball and his hard-slider is nasty, but his given talent is control both for fastball and breaking ball, especially for low-outside for right-handed hitters.
Anyway, remember his name for future reference.
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 3, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
I can not judge the throwing arm from this one play. But he certainly showed a strong and acurate arm. My only bad thought is he did not put his cut off man in position to make the decision to let the ball go through.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is though
is that Fukudome should have conceded the run, as he really had no chance to throw out the very fast Rickie Weeks at home plate. He needed to keep the trailing runner at second. It was a great throw, but it was late and Weeks bowled over Soto before the ball came close to getting there.
The throw was impressive. The decision to throw it in the first place was a mistake. Perhaps Fukudome simply didn't realize how fast Rickie Weeks is and tried to nail him.
As others said, the error had to go somewhere, and it was more Fukudome's fault than anyone else's. But he made up for it in the rest of the series.
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by Josh77 on Apr 3, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Fukodome
should have conceded the run. And yes he is not familiar with the league yet. If he is a smart player (which I think he is) come the next time Weeks is on third in same situation, He is not throwing home with total abandunment like today. He throws home hitting his cut off man.
But I have to tell you as a fan, I loved watching the play. And this gets back to Fukodome hitting his cut off man. Lee should have the decision to go home or not. Fukodome did not give Lee the option with his high throw.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Weeks is fast.
But I thought Fukudome had a shot at him. And in fact, the throw was right on the mark but not late, it just couldn't be handled because Weeks knocked Soto down.
Fukudome will throw a lot of runners out this way. Or they won't run on him. Either way, good result.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
But look at the otherside - if he makes it close or actually gets Weeks - think of what that does to opposing players....that would have been a game killer. Showing the arm off this early was a great thing and should scare a few teams out of trying to swipe home when a ball is hit to Fukudome.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
by HIGGY on Apr 4, 2008 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest day in Okinawan Baseball
Okinawa won national tournament (Final Four equivalent in Japan) by 9-0, and everybody (not almost everybody, but everybody) celebrates the victory everywhere, on the street, in the market, at office or school, and at all homes here. Here's the YouTube video for the final.
Already too much beer for me ;-)
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 4, 2008 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome follows
...and Dome's double and stolen base followed the Okinawan baseball victory in tonight sports news, and that's the video clip I should keep forever....
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 4, 2008 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watched Most Of The Game...
...what was excellent was the patience at the plate (what, did we get like 5 walks?) and the four stolen bases. What was missing, though, was that big hit that put the game away.
If Soriano did not walk with the bases loaded and got an out, I thought for sure that Piniella would have had a fit. It was an awful at bat for Pie (he always seems to be down 0-2 in each count, where Fukudome almost always runs the count full), and it was a good idea for Dempster to try and bunt a run in. Phew!
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on Apr 3, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just think
we could be the Tigers. At least we lost two out of three to a good team. The Tigers got swept, at home, by Kansas City. Ouch. Is there panic going on over there?
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on Apr 3, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even moreso now
that Sheff has a torn tendon in his finger.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Apr 3, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just watched...
Dome's double and stolen base as a highlight reel, in Yankees-BlueJays game after their 7th inning is over... looks like very familiar-looking plays for my last 9 years.... not showing his throwing anyway...
Only downfall is the picture was not HD...WGN(?) should provide NHK the HD format quality video...
by dragonsfanatic on Apr 3, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AL, Today or Yesterday???
Which was colder at Wrigley?
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 3, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today.
Yesterday, at least, was totally sunny... it only got cold when we lost the sun behind the upper deck.
Today was cold all day. The sun disappeared not long after game time.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My $0.03 worth (allowing for inflation)
1. Dempster did a good job of maintaining his composure after the tough start. My only concern is that he won't come close to 180 innings without breaking down.
2. Hitting is contagious, and it looks like most of the guys are infected now.
3. Ryan Braun is the anti-DeRo. Wherever DeRo plays, he looks like a natural. Wherever Braun plays, he looks like a butcher.
4. Good to see Woody get his first save. That should help him settle down.
5. Riot is seeing plenty of meatball strikes -- pitchers aren't going to walk him because they aren't afraid of him. He's going to need to hit .300 to have a .340 OBP. I'm not very confident that he can do that.
6. I'd rather see Marquis pinch-run than Cedeno.
7. Ramy has made several weak throws. I wonder if his shoulder is OK?
8. DeRo looks like he is pressing at the plate. He's hit 3 or 4 balls on the screws, but he's really swinging for the fences. I wonder if the rumors are still ringing in his ears.
8. Sori's legs look fine. I think his issue in ST was mental. The same thing happened when he was in Texas. He has a mortal fear of getting injured -- not hanging in on the 2B pivot, not getting close to an OF wall, etc. -- and he seems to have a huge fear of reinjury.
9. Dome is just an excellent all-around player. I hope that Lou leaves Dome and DeRo back-to-back (unless he moves Dome to #2) so they can develop some chemistry. DeRo can take pitches and hit to RF as he learns Dome's tendencies on the bases.
10. I really like our bullpen.
11. I'm still not convinced about Pie, but I'd like to see him get 150 ABs vs. RHP before jumping to any conclusions.
12. I like Sori in the leadoff spot.
13. Prince Fielder is really fat, and baggy pants can't hide that fact.
14. Jason Kendall still can't throw.
15. I won't get tired of hearing "Go Cubs Go!" if we hear it another 78 times.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Apr 3, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When you said 78,
I was wondering, "He only thinks the Cubs will win 79?" And then it clicked. Haha, that would be nice... Whats the most wins for a team at home in a year? Anyone know?
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 3, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answer.
The most games won at home in a single season is 65 -- by the 1998 Yankees.
The most games won at home in a single season by the Cubs is 58, in 1910 (58-19 in a 77-game home season, they played 77 home games in those 154-game seasons).
Since the 162-game schedule has been in effect, the most games won at home in a single season by the Cubs is 51, in 1984 (51-29 with one game postponed and not made up).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I really hate Fielder's
6XL Pants when he should be wearing 4XL...
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 3, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure
I liked them. He looked liked a horse jockey, as my friend Tim pointed out.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
#15
Honestly I can't stand that song, but I wont complain if I hear it 90 times this year.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That play at the plate in the 1st
Why did Dome get an error? That wasnt his fault...
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Apr 3, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go up the page
a little bit regarding this. It might answer your question.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is his fault
According to Official Scoring Rules, the onus is on the thrower to make a throw that can be handled with ordinary effort by the receiver. Dome's throw could not be cut off by DLee (though, IMO, he wasn't in good cut-off position), and it was up the line far enough that Soto was trying to move up the line to get it when he was clobbered.
Tough error, but definitely the correct scoring on the play. That's why OFs who never commit errors are usually noodle-armed guys who couldn't throw all the way to the plate -- not great OFs.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Apr 3, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along the lines
of OF with many assists because they are run on more often.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing i loved about the game most
is the cubs hitters showing a lot of patience...Hopefully Soto and fukudome's patience can rub off on everyone. It just always seemed like our hitters were in control because of the patience. 6 walks i think!!!
by cubsmania on Apr 3, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Easy to show
patience when the pitcher is not near the plate. Pie struck out with the bases loaded, no patience there. But for the most part, they did show improvement.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie is going to have a tough road...
...if he keeps swinging at pitches up at his shoulders. He seems to really fall into this trap with runners on base, because he is overly anxious and over commits with his swing. Maturity may help him, but I will be surprised if he is above .230-.240 a month from now.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned before
I think Pie will have a good year if he can reach 500 AB. If he has that many chances he has shown enough to keep him in the line up. Whether he hits .260 or .280, with this many AB's he would have proven his worth as the every day CF.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really on the fence...
...with Pie. I really don't like the way he reacts to pitches and he is clearly overly anxious. Being anxious comes from a lack of confidence, and it can become a viscious cycle once it gets going. I like the kid, but his pschy is fragile right now and my baseball instincts (as wrong as they often are) I tend to think Johnson is going to be getting a fair shair of starts in May and June.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His pschy is fragile right now?
Really, did he tell you this at dinner last night?
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Apr 4, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm allowed...
...to have my own observations, aren't I?
It's just an opinion, that you can certainly disagree with if you like.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 4, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An opinion?
"but his pschy is fragile right now " Doesnt read like an opinion, but OK. Not trying to start anything just curious.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Apr 4, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
that Pie feels that he needs to be Superman to keep his job. One (or more) of the veterans should be helping him keep within himself.......Also, he should stop reading......
by crazymountain on Apr 3, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did...
...but I have to say, watching Fukudome hit is a real treat. No wasted movement at all, and you can tell he picks up the ball very early on, which is key.
This guy will reek even more havoc, if Lou puts him in the 2-hole.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree.
He's always on base and to have lee and ramirez behind him would be huge. I also wouldnt be opposed to fukudome batting 3rd and lee and ramirez going 4, 5. Obviously fukudome is playing really well right now and it's easy to get caught up in emotion but I think the cubs hit it big with fukudome...he's going to be a great player for years and years to come.
by cubsmania on Apr 4, 2008 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was very pleased
to see us get Fukudome. He was a RF, LH and good defensively. However, I am astounded how good he looks at the plate. His balance is flawless and he seems to pick up the pitch so quickly out of the pitcher's hand that he rarely seems surprised by pitches. Of course, it's still very early, but I enjoy just watching his at bats.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on Apr 3, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As we all will
concede, Fukodome's success in the ML will be this. How the league will adjust to him and how he will adjust to the league.
Personally, I think he is one heck of a smart ballplayer. Because of this, he will not only adjust when needed, but continue to adjust as the season goes on.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 3, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judging from what I have seen...
...it looks as though they are trying to bust him inside with the hard stuff and mix in some breaking balls. They have tried to get him to chase the high heat (tough pitch for lefties), but he has refused to come close to biting on that pitch. His discipline and pitch recognition appear to be exceptionally high, and those guys are tough to strategize against.
Clearly, he has no issue what so ever hitting with two strikes, which is a rarity for a Cubs player. His only vulnerability has been on off speed pitches low in the zone, but this guy does not have too many holes for pitchers to find.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they might try
throwing a lot of low breaking balls...but fukudome can still recognize it and lay off of it if its out of the zone.....fukudome makes the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to get him out.
by cubsmania on Apr 4, 2008 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys see what the Braves just did?
They had their pitcher in. He pitched to a few batters. Cox then moved the pitcher to left field and brought in a new pitcher. The new pitcher intentionally walked the batter then Cox brought Resop in from Left and put him back on the mound ahhaahaha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you can do that?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 3, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did it.
Resop pitched to a few batters, Cox moved him the LF....brought in a new pitcher......the pitcher walked the batter.....then Cox walked out of the dugout and put Resop back on the mound to continue the inning. Nuts.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
though there are rules about warm-ups. Resop would not be allowed any warm-up pitches when returning to the mound the same inning. If he had stayed in LF for the next inning, Cox could have summoned him from LF and he would have received 8 warm-ups. If the other pitcher simply went to LF, he could come back to the mound (switching with Resop) but would not get warm-ups.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Apr 3, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Cox did it to aggravate the umps in retaliation to something that happened last night...so I'm told.
The funniest thing tonight is Resop got a LF glove before he went out there for the one batter then switched back to the pitcher glove when he came back in.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been done several times...
... Tommy Lasorda used to love doing this when he managed the Dodgers.
Have a look at this Cubs/Dodgers game from August 17, 1982. Bob Welch and Fernando Valenzuela did this. And look who was the OTHER outfielder who moved back and forth to accomodate!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was the purpose...
...of bringing in another pitcher to give an intentional walk?
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take that back
Resop went to left after walking a batter then Ring came in and struck out a batter then Resop came back in. No intentional walk. Sorry. It was very confusing.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly...
...I am surprised you don't see this more often. Especially, later in the year when your pen gets a little fried.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
It was a great idea. Bring in a pitcher to face one batter then do the double switch to put the original pitcher back on the mound.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is how it went down
"Hampton's absence forced the Braves to get creative with their bullpen. Chris Resop started the 10th on the mound, moved to left field for a batter to set up a lefty-on-lefty matchup, and then went back to the mound. Resop (0-1) gave up Nady's go-ahead single. "
Sorry for the confusion folks....but I was for sure confused.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sort of thing used to be...
...much more common. Guys like Earl Weaver and (I think) Billy Martin were known for all sorts of strange tactics. It's less common these days - I'd guess managers are much more risk adverse than they used to be, but I have no real basis for that theory.
by cwyers on Apr 3, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd never seen it before
But I guess Cox almost had to since they had used 7 pitchers to cover for Hampton. I've seen pitchers play in the filed and position players pitch but I'd never seen what I saw tonight.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite
highlights is when Mark Grace came in to pitch the 9th inning in a game that the D-Backs were getting killed. He did an impression of another pitcher whose name I can't remember, but it was hilarious.
by gwood on Apr 4, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that would have been Mike Fetters
n/t
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by BigJohnAZ on Apr 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't see the game, but
By doing that, you can change pitchers if there is a pinch-hitter next and you don't like the matchup. By rule, a pitcher has to pitch to one batter unless he's hurt -- and it can be an intentional walk.
Riggleman did that at least once with the Cubs.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 3, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the intentional walk thing wrong. Cox put his righthanded pitcher who had pitched to 2 batters in LF to bring in a lefty for the next batter..... then brought his righty in from LF to finish the inning. Its a great idea if you have a pitcher who can play somewhere else in the field for one or two batters.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine
that Cox was in the dugout praying that the ball didn't get hit to left field in this instance.
by gwood on Apr 4, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND F'N-A I'm happy with the game today.
My favorite part was when all the haters on the game thread suddenly disappeared hahahaha
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right Field
Anyone else in right field today? Right Field was absoutely nuts today... and in a bad way. Im in my young 20's and like to party and get crazy, but it was way to out of hand today. I never saw so many people get into fights/getting kicked out in my wrigley experience. It seems every year the bleachers get worse and worse. Dont get me wrong i love the bleachers and some of the crazy stuff that goes on...but some of it is just redicluous.
by Bardusk87 on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying this becuase I'm a Cubs fan and dont like the Brewers....
I really think it's the Brewer fans. I know the Cub fans fight too but I have seen very few fights during the year that arent at a Cubs vs Brewers or Cubs vs White Sox game. My parents flew up and we went to Miller and they will never step foot in the stadium again. We counted 8 fights.....and we didnt even get into the stadium til the 7th inning. My mom got knocked down and all 4 of us had some sort of drink on us.
My wife will never go to a game either. Now this one is my fault. We went to a Brewer vs STL game late last year. We sat front row in LF and I was dumb enough to wear my Cubs gear. We had peanuts and hotdog wrappers thrown at us and every half inning 3 guys came down, stood next to me and started a "CUBS SUCK" chant. At one point we were spit at. No exaggeration. They go overboard.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying the Brewer fans started it it but I'm sure they reacted. No longer can a fan go to a game and wear their favorite teams gear on the road without getting major sh!t for it.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily true
My best friend was sitting right next to me today. But, because he was talking intelligently and rooting for his team at the right time, he was embraced by the fans all around. You'll of course get ribbed on for being an enemy in their territory, but major crud doesn't normally happen unless you fire back first.
We're gonna go 162 and 0 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
I shouldnt have put that comment up there assuming it was Brewer fans. My experience just tells me if we were playing the Pirates or Diamond Backs that stuff doesnt happen.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fighter whatsoever but I think I could take care of myself....
...how in the world did you NOT get into a fight that day??? That takes some control.
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 3, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Pittsburgh
I hear stuff everygame I go to even if the Cubs aren't playing and I of course have my gear on. I have never had anything thrown at me or spit on or have been in a fight in all the years of going to games in Pittsburgh.
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 3, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys dont start tailgating 5 hours before every game though. Milwuakee is a unique town. The only town I've seen tailgating that rivals an NFL game....and they do it before EVERY home game. It's insane.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 6ft 6in 290. That usually keeps people from doing stuff to my face. Most of the stuff thrown was done from a distance. I didnt know someone spit on us til we were leaving and the Cubs fans who ducked in behind me to follow us out told me it happened. I would probably go as far as getting hit before I did anything. I'm not a fighter either. It was my fualt for wearing my Cubs jersey. But the fans were being so rude to us, other Brewer fans were pointing out the asses to security. Oh well, ya live and ya learn. I've been to almost 10 MLB stadiums and I've seen fights at 4. Wrigley, Miller, US Cellular and of course The Vet.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small town syndrome
There are many new posters here, but I have documented over the years the problems I have experienced attending Cubs games in San Diego. It's the same type of situation, as Cubs fans might experience in Cheeseville, but this isn't unique to Cubs fans -- I can see this happening to Dodgers/Giants/Mets fans, as well.
However, the 1984 season left Padres fans with a sense of superiority over the Cubs that really hasn't let up -- even after all these years. (It was with much satisfaction that the Cubs beat the Padres in ther first-ever meeting at Petco, since it was proclaimed "1984 Retro Night," adding insult to injury. The Cubs didn't participate in the festivities, thankfully -- a polite way of saying "stick it up your ass," I believe.) In fact, since the team went to Petco Park -- it's gotten worse. (As the team became competitive, the fans became cocky again.) But, with the crowd at Petco about 50% Cubs fans, there are many to pick on any given game.
I have attended many Cubs/Dodgers games at Chavez Ravine, and outside of the usual comments, nothing out of the ordinary has ever happened to me. The same goes in SF, at the old 'Stick. (I have not been to A T & T) Those cities just seem to have more sophisticated fans.
But San Diego.....like Milwaukee, is in the shadow of the 'big bad city' just 100 miles away. 'Inferiority complex' is about the best I can come up with regarding Padres fans. You have to eat a lot of you-know-what there, win or lose.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 4, 2008 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind
it when home fans give visiting fans sh*t, its when it gets violent that its unnecessary. I don't know if its because the home fans go a little over board or the visiting fans can't take it. It's probably a combination. Either way the fist fights, etc. are unnecessary.
by gwood on Apr 4, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly
think it has to do, to some degree, with Cubdom. Fans of other teams are resentful of Cubs fans' loyalty to the team. I live in St Louis and my desk is adorned with Cubs and Bears stuff and I get unsolicited crap all the time. Granted, it's usually in fun as the Cubs/Cards rivalry is a fun one, but it's always instigated by them, not me. I constantly hear references to losing, or 1908, or futility. Regardless of their championships, I truly believe Cardinal fans can't stand the fact that we love our Cubbies so much, and are jealous of that love.
You don't snipe in Carrington!
by neverAcquiesce on Apr 4, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm, yeah
Bardusk, I was in right field about 20 feet towards Center of Fukudome in the first row. Lemme tell ya, this was the worst section I've ever seen. We were right next to the usher, and he was earning his money today. I wouldn't even necessarily say it was Brewer's fans, cause of the 9 (I'm not kidding) fans thrown out in the section, 4 were cubs fans. At least the small group of people around us were intelligent fun baseball fans. All 10 of us (8 Cubs, 2 Brewers) were having a phenomenal game.
2 side notes
Fukudome is amazing, and I'm so glad I got to witness a great player up close.
Everyone is amazed that Kendall has done so well against the Cubs this year. Think about it. He KNOWS the Cubs pitching staff by heart. He knows how they pitch and where the pitch tails. So he'll hit well. And if we think he handles baserunners well AT ALL, don't forget his throwout was on Ramirez... on a hit and run... where Ramirez was jogging. I could have thrown him out in a pink leotard.
We're gonna go 162 and 0 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you in the same section Bardusk?
We're gonna go 162 and 0 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir
We were right by Mclovin and the other guys who painted fukodome on their chests. Crowd control wasnt messing around when they called in the extra security. The security asked alot of the brewer fans to just sit...but being the dumbasses they are they fought back..idoits
by Bardusk87 on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall
has always hit well against the cubs. Being a former cubs catcher only makes it worse.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 3, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crowd at Wrigley
The crowd at Wrigley has been allowed to get way out of hand the last two seasons. For the life of me I don't understand why. I've been attending games since 1977 and will be at the game this Sunday. Up until a couple years ago the drunken and obnoxious behavior that is in full bloom in too many sections of Wrigley these days would not have been tolerated. Maybe the Cubs have lessened security, or maybe there are new people in charge of stadium operations. But not even during the halycon days of Harry Caray-led exurbence in the late 80's were things as bad as they are now.
Under no condition would I take my wife and nine year old to the right field seats these days. Somebody within the Wrigley Field hierarchy needs to wake up and put an end to this garbage.
And for the love of God, can we please show proper respect for the Japenese culture in the mania to root Kosuke Fukudome on. Some of this Samurai warrior crap is insulting if you ask me. Drunken pasty white frat boys should be draped in the Japanese flag.
by MDBNIU on Apr 3, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me, the security was on tap today
Our section had 5 security guards around it by the end of the 7th (not ushers)
We're gonna go 162 and 0 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they were on tap today.
There were problems in LF too. Security threw out a ton of people -- and this is good, as in past years they would talk to people and let them back in, which sent the message: "Doesn't matter what you do, you can stay!"
Today, there were also some plainclothes Chicago police in the bleachers, and they took at least two people away.
They still need more security in the bleachers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 3, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorta makes you wonder where they are during the first 6 innings
I think they can appear through portals whenever any Cubs employee summons them. Or maybe I just want to go play some old-school Doom. The world may never know.
.... Edit: We're gonna go 160 and 2 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think it's such a problem at Wrigley in the bleachers? Is it the booze or the type of fan or Wrigley being so accessible? I've been to 50 games in Atlanta and I dont think I've ever seen a fight there. Same in Cincinnati. I don't understand why theres so much fighting in Chicago and Milwuakee. And it's not just at Wrigley. It's at the United center at hockey games and at Comiskey too.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all three of the things you mention.
Plus, the fact that security hasn't been really tough on idiot behavior.
In the bleachers at Yankee Stadium, if you break the rules, a firm but polite NYC cop will say, "Come with me, please."
And you get escorted out. No debating, no discussion. You're out. And that sends the message, Behave and have fun, but if you act like an idiot, you will have to leave. I have been in the Yankee Stadium bleachers several times and as a result of this policy, there's never any incidents there.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 4, 2008 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Dempster was impressive
Today, he pitched like a bulldog. Everybody was thinking the same thing after he gave up those two quick runs. But to his credit Dempster sucked it up and got the job done against a very tough Milwaukee lineup.
I said it in the preseason. Dempster will win 15 games in 2008 and be our 2nd best pitcher on the staff. I stand by that prediction. He might not have the greatest stuff and get lit up like a Christmas tree on ocassion, but he is going to give you everything he's got. Keep in mind also he is playing for his next multi-year contract.
by MDBNIU on Apr 3, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think his stuff is great...
...it's just his command over the long term that concerns me. Today, he had it and I hope it continues.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Apr 3, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dempster
I agree with a post above and I think it was Al, Demp looks like he is on a mission. He has gotten in even better shape than last year and seems very focused. I'm excited to see him pitch this season and more excited to go to the game tomorrow, first of the year. Won't be in the bleechers to stop by and meet some BCB's but will at some point.
Tomorrow should be a good day to see a wicked curve ball buckling Astro hitters
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Apr 3, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And his mission includes....
....securing a lucrative multi-year contract from somebody when he turns free agent next winter. Which is just fine as far as the 2008 Chicago Cubs are concerned.
by MDBNIU on Apr 3, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially if it's with the Cubs in 2009.
I like Demp, and I think he's going to be VERY successful this year.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 4, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy poop stains!!!
How did I not notice that you could hit "z" to unmark a post and to take you immediately to the new posts. This is remarkable!!!
.... Edit: We're gonna go 160 and 2 this year, I can feel it!!!
by Beaushek on Apr 3, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed Johnson
Anybody else think that Reed Johnson makes his first NL start tomorrow?
Pie looked terrible swinging at that pitch nearly over his head.
by roscoevillage on Apr 3, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Maybe Pie needs to sit one game to gather himself. Not as punishment, but to calm down a bit. It's going to take more than 3 games before Pie can get a fair evaluation.
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true...
maybe work on some things in BP and then take the game off... BUT do the astros have a lefty coming up to visit us this weekend?
by bap on Apr 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has he bunted for a hit yet?
i also think he needs to show he can do that and bring some infielders in closer...
by bap on Apr 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont know. he might not have been in a situation to batting so deep in the lineup. I think he's under a lot of pressure....
Poor Matty Murton....
by Keystone80435 on Apr 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not until a lefty starts.
And they won't see one till they get to Pittsburgh on Monday.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Apr 4, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Pie's wrist is still hurting from yesterday's HBP.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 4, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's silly to make much out of the games this week...
...in terms of validating the season's results. The Cubs were in 2 of the 3 games, maybe all 3. Our bullpen was a bit wild and it cost us game 1. The catching defense was challenged in game 2, better results in game 3.
The main thing that i want to see early from the pitching staff is whether Wood will be effective Back-to back-to back. That's a huge thing that you need to find out, not in week 1, but by end of April mid May.
You also want some sort of sense to the batting order before end of the month. It's a mistake to hit Fuku at 5 but it's not a season killer either. It just doesn't make any sense. Oh well, I don't care if they ever correct this mistake, it's not even worth discussing anymore.
What kind of bench play can we expect?
by DudeVf11 on Apr 3, 2008 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The lack of offense ...
Cost game 1. Game 2...well...was game 2
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Apr 4, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have given up on the Cubs...
...ever having a respectable offense. Game 1 doesn't prove anything in that regard, except the mindset of the team/management. You don't sign a player like Fukudome and bat him 5th, unless you have all-stars in each of those spots above him. Last time I checked, Theriot isn't headed to the All-Star game. This is the same misguided approach, of perceived role winning out over actual production, that was so frustrating when ABC managed this squad. That is to say, my critique is of their long-term strategy--NOT whether Theriot goes 0-5 in any one game. I like Theriot but he's a no. 7-8 hitter.
But I differ on game 1. The Cubs bullpen is supposedly the anchor strength of this club and it was one area where we were superior to the Brewers last year. The bullpen can't be giving away freebies in close games and that's what cost this game when viewed from team strength.
My gosh, if only the Cubs would look at the value of taking those freebies on the offensive side...
by DudeVf11 on Apr 4, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
everyone felt shorted last year. I think all Cub fans couldn't wait to start the season. I think everyone, including myself, got so damn worked up in the offseason that losing the first 2 games made us crazy. This win calmed me down.
Who has my 'Club Paradise' dvd?
by Keystone80435 on Apr 4, 2008 12:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See how easy a little offense makes things look....
and BTW.....the Cubs much maligned closer last year can pitch....I'm not surprised...and Dempster was a HUGE part of Cub success last year....the guy is a great competiter......Let's just see if the regs can start HITTING instead of TIPPING CAPS
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Apr 4, 2008 12:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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