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Novel Idea Of The Day: Cubs Come From Behind To Win

Hey, Soriano bashers: hang on a second, I have something for you.

In the meantime, for the rest of you, the Cubs spotted the Astros a 2-0 lead, tied it, gave them the lead back, and then, with a spectacular five-run seventh inning, put the game away, insured it with a run in the 8th, and beat the Astros 9-7 in a game that had as much bad as good.

Since I did the good news/bad news thing yesterday, a little more conventional analysis today. First of all, "spectacular" doesn't apply just to the Cubs' 7th-inning rally. It also describes today's weather, a gorgeous, not-a-cloud-in-the-sky, mid-60's day of the sort that we rarely have in Chicago this early in April. (We're getting another one tomorrow, not quite as nice, but still better than 90% of early-April days.) The wind was blowing out -- to different fields at different times. When Derrek Lee slammed his second HR of the year to right-center, it did have a little help from the wind out that way. At other times it was blowing straight at us in left field., although Carlos Lee's HR to left in the 4th, which gave the Astros a 3-2 lead at the time, didn't need any assistance to leave the premises.

Jason Marquis was... well, OK. He allowed a run in the first, on a single that just got up the middle, a stolen base (Hey, Geovany Soto! What happened to that arm you showed us last September?), another infield single that Aramis Ramirez couldn't field, and a 1-6-3 DP (the first of two such DP's -- Marquis fielded his position well today). Marquis slogged into the 6th inning, trailing 3-2 and having gotten 11 outs on ground balls. But after back-to-back doubles followed an error given to D-Lee (couldn't figure that one out, it looked like a throwing error to me), and a hard line drive by Miguel Tejada at Kosuke Fukudome, Lou had had enough. Marquis did OK at the plate today, hitting a double and driving in a run in the 2nd, and then reaching on a throw that Ty Wigginton bounced off the tarp into the stands. (Last year that ball would NOT have made the seats, as the tarp was not there; the ball would have bounced off the bricks and back to the first baseman.) Marquis wound up at second, and ill-advisedly took off to third on a fly ball by Soriano, and was thrown out.

I can't say enough good things about Kevin Hart. He took over, striking out Wigginton and Mark Loretta, and despite giving up a triple in the next inning, escaped unscored-upon. For that he got his first major league win when the Cubs put up their five-spot in the 7th.

The five-run inning was a beauty to behold. Never mind the poor at-bat by Soriano in that inning, the rest of the inning was well-done by everyone. Ryan Theriot worked a walk. Pinch-hitter Mike Fontenot singled. Even Soriano's out resulted in two bases advanced, and then Reed Johnson's deep grounder to short scored a run. D-Lee singled in the tying run, and then, to me, the key at-bat of the inning occurred. With two out Cecil Cooper replaced Roy Oswalt with Oscar Villareal and Aramis Ramirez worked him for a walk. Now, you'll say of course that was key, because if he makes an out, the inning's over, and you'd be right, but the walk brought Fukudome to bat -- again, it's only five days, but I do not think I've seen Fukudome have a bad at-bat yet -- and he doubled in two runs. (Dome had also bunted for a hit in the sixth, on his own according to Lou's postgame press conference, and that advanced Lee, who had doubled, to third, where he scored on a wild pitch.) Mark DeRosa's double completed the scoring; even though Geovany Soto struck out to end the inning, it was one of the best long-sequence offensive explosions I've seen from this team in a long time.

So stop worrying about the offense so much! 14 hits, two walks, nine runs. Works for me. (Roy Oswalt didn't strike out anyone today and is 0-2 so far this year with a 6.00 ERA. And if he's not "on", the Astros staff is in big trouble.)

Bob Howry -- will someone tell him to pretend it's August? His fastball was flat today, and he gave up three hits and two runs before Carlos Marmol bailed him out, and Kerry Wood finished up with an uneventful (but no-strikeout) ninth, again hitting 96 on the ballpark speed pitch meter.

Now, about Mr. Soriano. Dave, who thinks Soriano is overrated and "not a team player", said that tomorrow would be a good day to give Soriano a day off. We all know he's a streak hitter, and he had a bad start like this last year, too. A day off, just to keep him from pressing, is, I think, an excellent idea. Give Daryle Ward the start in LF against Brandon Backe.

Win tomorrow, with Z on the mound, and you have a 3-3 homestand -- not ideal, but far better than we might have guessed a couple of days ago.

Finally, Fukudome got a standing ovation, as you might imagine, after his two-run double in the 7th. When he returned to RF, he bowed politely to everyone in the bleachers. Five days and he's already a fan favorite. He's exactly as advertised. I can't think of a better signing that Jim Hendry could have made this offseason.

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Good analysis

I know Lou said that Reed is starting but did he say where? Maybe he starts for Soriano in lF

by fischisgod on Apr 5, 2008 4:50 PM CDT   0 recs

actually, that could be good

because it still lets Pie play, and he needs more at-bats, not fewer.

Probably, tho, Lou is thinking that the more chances Sori gets, the better.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2008 6:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that sure was a fun one to watch. i only hope the offense can keep firing like this! lou also mentioned that he's going to start blanco tomorrow....

on a personal note, i'll be there tomorrow sitting behind home plate. my first game at wrigley since 05 and i am so stoked!

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 4:52 PM CDT   0 recs

Fukudometer

The Fukudometer was out in full force in section 529 today. Dropped to a low of 429, but raised back up to .500. About 10 picture ops including one from a pair of Japanese girls who confirmed the correct Japanese numbers for the batting average.

by Fuk-U-Meter on Apr 5, 2008 4:59 PM CDT   0 recs

Post photos, please!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Seconded!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 5, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

photos

I'll bring the digicam tomorrow. Photos by tomorrow night.

by Fuk-U-Meter on Apr 5, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think

...they just wanted pictures of the japanese girls. :)

by carmen_fanzone on Apr 5, 2008 9:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thom Brennaman is an idiot.

Watching the Sox/Tigers game on Fox. He just said Jacque Jones had a good second half last year "for the Sox".

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 4:59 PM CDT   0 recs

you know, it's amazing the amount of errors that come out of the mouths of the national broadcasters. you would think there would be some accountability... i do realize that people make mistakes, but it's the fact that they rarely correct the errors that bothers me the most.

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

.. or jon miller and the moron...

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Same

I was waiting for him to correct himslf and say the cubs!

But neither of them knew the truth.

by Rudey on Apr 5, 2008 5:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe Brennaman

plays baseball on his PlayStation and Jones got traded to the White Sox last year.

(That's all I've got.)

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 5, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think Little Thommy...

... is smart enough to play baseball on PlayStation.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

The problem with the national broadcasters, for the most part, is that they are incapable of following all of the major league teams as closely as they should in order to provide decent analysis. That task is certainly more difficult than following a specific team all year, but that is what they chose to do and their continual errors are unacceptable. Brennaman is an idiot either way, but the errors do come out of his mouth much more regularly than others. Quite frankly, I don't think he knows baseball despite being "around it" his entire life.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Apr 5, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

Brennaman takes little things and makes them sound like they're the most important thing in baseball history -- like he's never heard of them before.

Which, maybe he hasn't.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN

is especially bad....they will talk Yankees and Red Sox through the game they are broadcasting..All east coast, all the time

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 6:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The HR Derrek Lee hit today

was his second of the year, not his first.

by Neifi Puppy on Apr 5, 2008 5:08 PM CDT   0 recs

You are, of course, correct.

I'll fix it. Thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Excellent Win Today!

Fuke is clutch and so glad he's on the Cubs.. Soriano is going to hit and that's for sure.. Tomorrow would be a nice time.. Hint, hint... Anyhoo, they won without him so when he does come around they'll really be in good shape.. Really looked nice out there at the game and all I can say is about time... Let's get the series tomorrow and Go Cubs!

"I'm not normally a religious man, but... if you're up there, save me, Superman!"
Homer Simpson

by blueivy on Apr 5, 2008 5:12 PM CDT   0 recs

i think that is a key part of this team - theoretically we can be fine if one or two of our sluggers is slumping cause we've got enough really good guys to take up the slack....

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you're right and just have to avoid everyone at the same time slumping..

"I'm not normally a religious man, but... if you're up there, save me, Superman!"
Homer Simpson

by blueivy on Apr 5, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we've already seen that a couple of times this week and it's not pretty.

it's been a bit of a rough start, but i do think we'll be fine...

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was at

the MN Twins game (also a good game btw) so didn't get to listen to this one. I am exstatic to hear that the game went so well.

Maybe Marquis doesn't pitch too well all the time, but it seems we like to win the games that he pitches. I think we won 20 games that he started last year.

by gwood on Apr 5, 2008 5:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Fukudome Love

The thing I love about Dome is his intelligence. Coupled with his zen approach at bat and in the field, my admiration knows no bounds. He's the complete package -- he clearly knows the game almost on a synaptic level, he analyzes each situation with clarity and confidence and then he delivers. Calm, cool, collected, confident. I'm in alliterative heaven.

by AcroEmelie on Apr 5, 2008 5:15 PM CDT   0 recs

Couldn't agree more.

As I said, it may be only five games, but I don't think I've seen him have a bad at-bat or make a bad fielding play (the error he was charged with the other day was a tough one).

I hope some of this rubs off on his teammates.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if only there was a way to rub some of it on soriano...

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You know, it's interesting...

I'm coming at this with nearly a blank slate. I've been a casual Cubs/Cub fan for 15 years or so and this year I decided to take it to the next level. Started seriously watching this season without any preconceptions and my first impressions of Soriano are unfavorable. I don't know from squat his history with the team, but his performance on the field is almost arrogant. It seems he doesn't enjoy or even care much for defense. He loses concentration at odd pivotal moments. When he goes up to bat, however, it's Jeckle/Hyde. Even there, even when I cheer, I sense he's playing for himself and not the team. No amount of dome pixie dust is going to mask or overcome that.

by AcroEmelie on Apr 5, 2008 5:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you have it scoped out pretty well.

There are times when Soriano's talent will help carry the team for a few weeks. But other times -- like now -- he looks exactly as you describe.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He is so humble too

He wanted to smile after that 5th inning double today, but just could do it. He's got a little dimple that starts to show when he wants to smile.....

by coral on Apr 5, 2008 8:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats

The best thing we can hope for. If soriano/Pie could get some of the magic Fuko dust we would be in great shape with some great speed on the bases.

The cubs have grown up so much to the point where names like Soriano/Ramirez can play bad and we can come up with 9 runs. When did the cubs start having such a balanced team?

by Rudey on Apr 5, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is there anything he can't do?

(that's what Len said after his bunt single...)

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on Apr 5, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh there are things he can't do

he is incapable of being fundamentally UNsound.......

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dome

I must agree. Nothing against all the former Cubs, but it is a real pleasure watching a hitter as disciplined as Dome essentially have his way with the pitchers he is facing. The announcers always talk about how a hitting needs to make a pitcher throw the pitch the hitter wants. With Dome, I feel like I am finally watching that in action.

by gwood on Apr 6, 2008 8:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol.

magic fuko dust! - yet to be banned by mlb!

by anormal on Apr 5, 2008 5:23 PM CDT   0 recs

It would be nice

if Rami, Soriano and Pie would find their strokes...this lineup could be absolutely devastating!

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 5:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Rami will find his stroke...

he starts slow-but once he heats it up-usually around mid-late May-he's pretty consistent for the rest of the year and wil put up his 100 rbi and .300 average.
Soriano is streaky-those kinds of players drive me nuts because you can't really count on them-but we're going to have to live with it and hope that the team is as balanced as it's starting to look.
like everybody, I'm completely stoked about Fukodome (mvp and roy?) but the guy who also is starting to get me excited is D. Lee-if he has his power stroke back (and it's starting to look that way)-this team could start to become really fun to watch.
All in all, I'm off the cliff (for now) and looking forward to Big Z keeping it going tomorrow.

by bluekoolaide on Apr 5, 2008 6:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As you see from the last post

I have been practicing up on my typonese....could should be would.......

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 5:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Missed the game today

Between little league baseball and spring soccer, hated to be gone. Looks like Fuku keeps putting together great at bats. Also, nice to hear that Theriot is taking walks. He needs to add that component because he is not that good of a major league hitter. Also, it is nice for the number 2 hitter to take some pitches in the even the lead off guy gets on (opportunity to steal).

by SETX Cub on Apr 5, 2008 5:44 PM CDT   0 recs

Glad to hear of the weather in Chicago

We had a chilly morning in SETX (it was 60) until the clear blue day got to 75. My kids really did wear undershirts in that cool 60 degrees. I have to work with them on getting a little tougher.

by SETX Cub on Apr 5, 2008 5:46 PM CDT   0 recs

Good to see...

..Dome shows same Dragons' play style and spirit out there in Chicago...

Next game I can watch on my satellite channel is against PIT on my Friday morning....

by dragonsfanatic on Apr 5, 2008 5:53 PM CDT   0 recs

Is that live?

Would that be the Thursday night game? Or the Wednesday night game?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cool!

Maybe you can join in on the game thread.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully

And maybe we wont have to see a one man carry crew.

Fuko must think "this is my first year do I have to carry this team already?"

We will come around Fuko we will come around.

by Rudey on Apr 5, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he didn't carry it alone today.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Big win, couldn't watch it here due ot

the MLB Extra Innings blackout on saturday afternoon, but its nice to read about the offense coming up big like this. Just bought my tickets for the three game set here in couple weeks, I'm hoping Marquis doesn't make a start here, I think he is just awful. I think we have three better starting options in Lieber, Marshall, and Hart (though Kevin also has great value in the BP as he showed today).

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Apr 5, 2008 5:55 PM CDT   0 recs

Yeah, I am very puzzled

at Lieber in the pen and not starting in Marquis place...

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The MLB Extra Innings package.....

Here in New Mexico, MLB has decided that the Rockies AND the Diamondbacks are our home teams. We are really lucky that they are in a different division, or Cubs games would never be seen here. Also, when watching the Cubs' Comcast games on the package, they end the game at the last out....no postgame shows at all......

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 6:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think people are a little rough on Soriano.

Not being a team player? He moved from CF to LF last year. Didn't he also report to Spring Training early to take more ABs, or something like that, last year?

I'm probably just trying to convince myself, but I like to think that Soriano is an integral part of this Cubs team.

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Apr 5, 2008 5:55 PM CDT   0 recs

I have to agree with you

Soriano has done everything asked of him and has made it very clear that Lou is the manager and he will do whatever Lou asks....

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He is a frustrating player at times..but he is critical to thier success

...remember how well they played when he came back last September and caught fire?

That was the difference between playing in the postseason and watching the postseason. He is streaky and that is part of the package.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Apr 5, 2008 6:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it possible....

that Soriano has had tough times at the start of the season because he can't play winter ball? I get the impression that he's got A.D.D and starts to get bored out there.....

by coral on Apr 5, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Everyone goes through slumps throughout a season.

That's how it is - even the best, or even the most "consistant" ballplayers, tend to do things in bunches.

There's no reason that a slump to start the season is any more meaningful than a slump in the middle of July. It's just that in July you've got all that other baseball in the seasonal line to remind you of what a player's true talent level is. (Although even that can be decieving.) In the first week of April, things seem a lot more meaningful than they are, simply because they're all we have.

by cwyers on Apr 5, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree, what is up with Soriano dogging

Hey the guy is going through a real rough stretch. He will get it going, look at his track record, the numbers will be there.
Funny people forget last September when he carried the club.
Relax, he will hit.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Apr 5, 2008 10:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Are the other team's runners stealing at Cubs' pitchers or the catcher?

Al mentioned the stealing "streak" in the main post. What do you all think?

by Fraggin Judge on Apr 5, 2008 6:59 PM CDT   0 recs

As for Sori...

I get as frustrated with him as anybody and I really think, in retrospect, it wasn't a good signing-still, I don't doubt his desire and attitude-I just don't think he has a lot of "baseball sense"-he's kind of like the mirror opposite of 'Dome in that way.
He's just very raw and undisiplined and I don't see that going away unfortunately.
I thought I noticed him getting some boos today and I actually found myself feeling sorry for him (or as close to sorry as I could be for a guy making 18m).

by bluekoolaide on Apr 5, 2008 7:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Didn't Kerry say...

that he didn't want to come into any music? Cuz he came in to "TNT" Thursday, and then "Welcome to the Jungle" today. If they're not going to respect his wishes, couldn't they at least settle on one song? And I've heard that some people don't want a heavy metal song, so why not "Next Contestant" by Nickelback?

by WartburgCub on Apr 5, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

I love that Wood's old school

about that kind of stuff-unfortunately he has to go up against the Cubs marketing department who want to appeal to the kids in the audience

by bluekoolaide on Apr 5, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, "Thunderstruck" and everyone knows that's the song a closer has to have playing ; )

"Thunderstruck" by AC/DC must be played when closer comes into the game and I think it's the law in some cities ; )

"I'm not normally a religious man, but... if you're up there, save me, Superman!"
Homer Simpson

by blueivy on Apr 5, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sigh.

I wish they'd defer to Kerry's wishes.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish they'd play...

scarry halloween music on the organ....a requiem or something like that

by coral on Apr 5, 2008 8:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You think the organ

could do a version of the Darth Vader March from Star Wars?

by gwood on Apr 6, 2008 8:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Speaking of music...

I noticed they played Thin LIzzy's "The Boys are Back in Town" as the Cubs took the field today. Has this been the song all week?

I thought this was a good choice when I first read about the contest on cubs.com, but now that I've heard it again, especially in the Wrigley setting, I have to say it sounds pretty lame. Kinda reminds me of when a well-meaning but clueless parent trys to prove to their teenage kids that he/she can be 'cool'...

Given the Cubs' inconsistent play so far, I think they could use a constant reminder of what they need to be successful this year. With that in mind, my nomination for best song in the "motivational t-shirt" category is... U2's "Desire". I think it's one damn scrappy song! ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 5, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate hate hate hate hate

"The Boys are Back in Town" for the Cubs taking the field. Bring back "Jump" and never change it! EVER!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Apr 5, 2008 10:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Len said

"Kerry says he doesn't care". So there it is.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

please no..

thunderstruck.......................the team from the Cell plays that

by plenz on Apr 5, 2008 7:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Yea

Id rather go with no music as most would, but it does not look like that is gonna happen.

by Rudey on Apr 5, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

do they? Okay, no Thunderstruck then... Kerry needs no music. .

"I'm not normally a religious man, but... if you're up there, save me, Superman!"
Homer Simpson

by blueivy on Apr 5, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a musician

but the playing of rock music isn't appropriate for a baseball game....I am a baseball purist and the organ is the background sound for baseball.....especially at Wrigley!

by crazymountain on Apr 5, 2008 7:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Can anyone help?

I purchased tickets from TicketsNow for tomorrow's game...the confirmation email simply says to pick up the tickets "by Wrigley"...do they have a booth at the stadium? Do I pick them up at the Wrigley will-call booth? Their help line is closed on the weekend, so it's no help to me. Any help I can get is much appreciated.
Thanks...

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace." -- Ernie Banks

by MississippiMalaise on Apr 5, 2008 7:57 PM CDT   0 recs

They're usually in the will call booth

when ya order em online. gl

"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me

by lilkimmer77 on Apr 5, 2008 8:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks!

"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace." -- Ernie Banks

by MississippiMalaise on Apr 5, 2008 8:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

np

"The Cubs can't be stopped" -- Me

by lilkimmer77 on Apr 5, 2008 8:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs