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Several days ago, prompted by some posts made here about the difficulties many of you have had with MLB.TV, and the continuing saga of Saturday TV blackouts, I decided to use today's off day to write further about MLB's Stone Age TV policy.
Serendipitously, Yahoo's Jeff Passan wrote yesterday on this very topic, telling us that MLB has at least begun to wake up; later this summer, MLB president & COO Bob DuPuy is going to require all MLB teams to redefine their TV "territories" or, according to Passan, "risk losing them".
To which all I can say is, about freaking time. If you haven't seen the MLB television territorial map, here it is:

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Look real closely at that map. From a 2008 perspective, it makes zero sense. Why should Iowa be carved up by six different teams (Cubs, White Sox, Cardinals, Twins, Brewers, and Royals)? Those of you who live in Iowa know exactly what I'm talking about. Passan explains the 1960's era territorial policy:
Back then, MLB had 20 teams and little television coverage beyond the postseason. Territorial rights were analog endowments carried into the digital age, and while in some cases they still apply – the Red Sox own a legitimate claim to the entirety of New England with regional-sports network NESN’s ubiquity there, and the Yankees and Mets are big enough draws for the YES Network and SportsNet New York to stretch across their territories, and perhaps beyond – most should be up for grabs.Is Des Moines a Twins territory? Do the White Sox have a genuine claim? Why not the Royals? They’re closest. The Cubs are the most popular, the Cardinals traditionally the most successful, the Brewers currently the best. If nothing else, the re-written territorial-rights map could give teams incentive to actively pursue areas such as Iowa and Las Vegas and draw new fans instead of relying on what they inherited. The forgotten would turn into the recruited.
Well, yes and no. It all depends on how they redraw this map. Example: there are, as you likely have already figured, more Cubs fans scattered across the country than, say, Tampa Bay Rays fans. Thus, the Rays want to "protect" their "territory" in Florida so they get their games watched.
The reality, however, is that if you're a Cubs fan living in Tampa and you can't watch the Cubs, you're more likely to not watch ANY game, not watch the Rays just because they're on. The reasons for this should be obvious (well, obvious to any intelligent person, but that phrase -- "intelligent person" -- seems to be totally absent from MLB management): first, just because you live in a certain area doesn't mean you want to watch the games of that team, if you are loyal to another; and second, the simple fact that you are being forced to do so angers you enough so that even though you may love baseball, you might not watch the local game simply out of spite.
Jeff Passan says there's hope for the future, and partly because of the Extra Innings near-debacle of last year, where fan outrage got Congress involved, and maybe woke baseball management up:
Baseball is well-versed enough in compromise to figure out ways to satiate both the owners and public. Fans already give up most Saturday afternoon games to the blackout Fox bought so it could have exclusivity. It isn’t fair. It is business, and the financial prosperity derived from TV contracts and other media rights has helped baseball avoid work stoppages for consecutive collective-bargaining agreements. The trade is worth it.Most promising is baseball listening to its public. During the MLB Extra Innings debacle last year, in which baseball held cable companies hostage by threatening not to offer them the package unless they put the Baseball Channel on basic digital cable, MLB ignored the outcries of its fans and instead chased a buck. Cable companies didn’t and bowed to MLB’s request, thus ensuring the Baseball Channel the largest launch in cable history.
This time, it was different. You wrote the letters. You lodged the complaints. You hammered home the inanity of it all.
Inanity is right. I've written this many times, but now is a good time to say it again: the proper policy is a very simple one. If you are willing to pay to watch a specific game, you should be able to, no matter where you are located. If they're worried about local commercials -- well, there are technological ways to, say, insert Tampa-area commercials into a Cubs telecast if you are watching on Extra Innings or MLB.TV. On EI, you frequently see a "We'll Be Right Back" screen between innings on some games. Cable or satellite companies could have commercials local to wherever you are inserted instead. Also, fiascos like yesterday's Cubs game, where WGN-TV lost its video feed for a couple of innings, could also be avoided. Cub fans watching on EI via FSN Pittsburgh (or on MLB.TV) could see the game -- but only if they were NOT in the Cub "territory", presenting the bizarre scenario of everyone NOT in Chicago being able to see those innings.
Seriously, how hard is that? It's win-win. Fans would get to watch the games they want. Advertisers would get more eyeballs. What's not to like?
It's time for MLB to acknowledge that television and Internet technology are moving far faster than policy. Wake up, Bud. Hear your fans -- I remind you that we are your best customers!! Please us and maybe you'll find you can make even more money. (That is, after all, what this is all about, right?)
We can now have real hope that by next year, when the Baseball Channel is supposed to launch, that every fan, everywhere, can watch any game he or she wishes. Bud, make it so.
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I still think
for fans of one specific team and not the whole league, you should be able to purchase just certain team's games. For instance, I would buy Cubs, Twins and Blue Jays games for a season. I don't have time to watch that much baseball, but when they are on, it pisses me off I have to watch gameday on a saturday afternoon
Los Cachorros!
by Laven on Apr 8, 2008 8:45 AM CDT 0 recs
That's another thing they could do...
... as long as they guarantee you can watch EVERY game for the teams you select.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 8:47 AM CDT
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EI costs
about 180 dollars for the year?
Why charge ($75) and choose 3-5 teams and get every broadcast? I could see a major increase in sales if they day that
Los Cachorros!
by Laven on
Apr 8, 2008 9:21 AM CDT
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Again, this makes way too much sense for the great minds at MLBAM.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:24 AM CDT
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Their thinking
and I honestly don't think they're wrong, is that most people buying EI are doing it to watch only one team. If people are paying $180 for a product, why offer it to them for $75? And especially if you were to offer three to five teams for $75, then almost no one would buy the full package.
Honestly, I buy EI for the Cubs. I watch tons of non-Cub games on it (I watch the Nationals, Twins, Angels and Dodgers a lot) but I probably wouldn't get it if I lived in Chicago. And I'm a pretty hard core fan.
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by Josh77 on
Apr 8, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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I buy it for the opposite reason
I get all the Cub games so I buy it to watch all the other games. And if you buy it to watch all the games it's a deal. If you buy it to watch one team then it's not a legit $180 investment. Would be nice for to pay per team. We had this discussion last year about NFL Sunday Ticket. $300 is way over the top but $100 for one team is reasonable. But like Josh said, why give the customer the option when you know they'll pay full price.
Who has my 'Club Paradise' dvd?
by Keystone80435 on
Apr 8, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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Exactly.
They could easily have a la carte options for EI. I buy it, like Keystone, because I love baseball and want to watch as many games as I can, even though I already can see all the Cub games (and can watch White Sox games here to watch AL teams, as well as ESPN games).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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I caught myself watching Oakland and Toronto for no reason last night!! haha I was flipping between that and Tampa vs Seattle.
Who has my 'Club Paradise' dvd?
by Keystone80435 on
Apr 9, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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Exactly!
(Except for the ""I wouldn't get it if I lived in Chicago part.)
You just know MLB would offer a PPV option, not a "3-teams for 75-bucks" deal. That would be outrageous, if you had to pay -- oh, about 10-bucks a game for every Cubs game, wouldn't it?
I think the current price is a great deal, for all the games you have offered to you -- whether or not you watch any other team but the Cubs.
And, I might add -- I've never paid full price for EI. Time Warner SD always cuts the price.
I paid 129-dollars for EI this year, not the advertised price.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Apr 8, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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Unfortunately, I think you're right.
They even advertise EI as a way for out of town fans to follow their team. If those fans are willing to pay full price for that (plus all the other games) they won't offer what those fans want (just their team's games) for less. it's another unfortunate way for MLBud and In Demand to make an extra buck.
It's the same reason why they offered viewers a deal for HBO and Cinemax even if the viewers only wanted to watch The Sopranos on HBO. Time-Warner wouldn't offer HBO alone for a lower price. It's either the package (HBO-Cinemax at a special price) or HBO at its regular price (usually more expensive thahn the combo deal).
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:32 PM CDT
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Wow, this is so right on...
I like to think of the way MLB treats Iowa as the Treaty of Utrecht, where the Pope negotiated a treaty dividing up the new world between Portugal and Spain. No one asked the people of Iowa, it was just assumed that we wanted to speak Portugese.
You're not going to find 5 Twins or Brewers fans in Des Moines, but the fandom probably goes like this:
1. Cubs (obvious reasons)
2. Cards (who knows why?)
3. White Sox (AAA farm team used to be for the Sox)
4. Royals (proximity)
5. Twins (proximity)
It only makes sense for the revenue needs of each team and the abundance of future revenue sharing that the digital age drives a breakdown of these boundaries.
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by IowaCubs- on Apr 8, 2008 8:56 AM CDT 0 recs
Trying to watch televised baseball in my area is an exercise in frustration
Nationally televised games on ESPN2 are routinely blacked out by Mediacom and replaced with the ESPN News feed. Cub games on CSN are routinely replaced by White Sox games only to appear on seemingly random channels higher up the dial. Twins games on weird channels have appeared on my cable guide but I have yet to see one actually appear on my TV.
I don't know how much of this is Mediacom and how much is MLB but I hope every year that they'll get their act together and every year I'm disappointed again.
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
by jasoniniowa on
Apr 8, 2008 9:04 AM CDT
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I live in
Iowa and have DirecTV and when CSN says there is a Cubs game it shows it. Now tomorrow night's game is on CSN+ but we will still get it.
by sue369 on
Apr 8, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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And I'm a Cub fan
but live 5 miles from Iowa in Omaha, so I have to have DirectV and Extra Innings or I do not get Cubs games, except the ones on WGN. Since I want HD, the DTV package is best for me anyway, but why should anyone have to go through this?
Time for FCC or congressional action - MLB management needs to be taught a lesson.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Apr 8, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
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CSN...
...isn't offered by Mediacom, which sucks, but DTV and DN offer it.
Personally, I think that Congress has more important things to worry about than wether or not I can get me Cubs games on TV. You know there's the whole economy thing...
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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They have more time than you know
Far and away, the most frequent reason things don't get done in washington is that bills are simply difficult to pass. The vast majority of bills die in committee before they ever reach the floor for debate. I'd be thrilled if Congress could spend a bit of time and compel the MLB and broadcasters (Fox in particular) to stop these ridiculous business practices.
by Thelonious on
Apr 8, 2008 9:20 AM CDT
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And,
I also dropped cable in Des Moines, took Dish network, get CSN and WGN. I get the Cards and Brewers and I guess this year some Twins games on FSN. I'm happy with this but somebody will mess this up too. This whole thing makes my head hurt. Just let us watch baseball, that isn't so complicated is it?
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Apr 8, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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While I agree that Congress
should be dealing with more important things, they don't. So as long as they're wasting my $$, I'd prefer they make it so we can watch baseball.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on
Apr 8, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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I know people in
my town who have Mediacom and they get CSN. It might be part of a sports package you have to purchase but you should be able to get it.
by sue369 on
Apr 8, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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Don't worry.
Congresspeople should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time? Shouldn't they? (Wink, wink)
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:35 PM CDT
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Baseball Channel
What is the idea behind the Baseball Channel?
Is it supposed to replace EI and MLB.TV? Or supplement it?
If it is just going to supplement the existing packages, what/how is the Baseball Channel going to be different and wouldn't that decrease the amount of subscribers to EI or MLB.TV and therefore lower MLB's revenue?
by tcjhawk on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 AM CDT 0 recs
That makes me think...
...that a version of MLB TV would make sense as a subscriber only option for digital cable and sattelite. You could have equal access to games online and on TV with one subscription.
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 9:03 AM CDT
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That makes too much sense.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:07 AM CDT
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I don't know.
I think it's a supplement, but I'm not sure.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:07 AM CDT
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it will probably end up being more of a suppository, thanks to Dr. Bud
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Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Apr 8, 2008 9:24 AM CDT
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LMAO!
Excellent, ballhawk. Just excellent.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
by Kegler on
Apr 8, 2008 9:26 AM CDT
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Sounds like it might be
a channel showing random games and highlights, which means lots of hot AL East action all the time.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on
Apr 8, 2008 11:27 AM CDT
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The Baseball Channel
is like the NFL Network, the NHL Network and the NBA Network. They are going to have some national games of the week and then the rest of the time will be like a 24 hour version of Baseball Tonight, complete with Harold Reynolds, who has signed on to work there. Then there will be some stuff that you used to watch on ESPN Classic before that became the Poker Channel. Reruns of the 1995 World Series, those highlights of the 1974 World Series that WGN used to play during rain delays will be on too.
Eventually they'll probably have some original documentaries on baseball history. The first thing they'll cover will be the second WBC, which is timed to happen at the same time the Baseball Channel goes on the air.
I'm hoping that they will show minor league games like the NHL and NBA networks do, and it's a good bet that they will. I hope in the offseason they show the Caribbean Leagues, but that's a little more iffy.
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by Josh77 on
Apr 8, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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It'll be a baseball only channel.
Like the NFL Network or the NBA channel. They'll show some games nationally, in all probability. I also assume they'll be so stupid as to black them out in some markets.
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:37 PM CDT
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I live in the UK
...so don't have to suffer through any blackout problems. The MLB.com tv package gets me every game of Baseball all year as they are all "out of market" to me. Its hard to imagine a better deal than that.
I sympathise with the troubles of all fans stateside though. Its hard to see who really benefits from the current set-up.
by MadHatterBlues on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 AM CDT 0 recs
you good sir
are a lucky man.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on
Apr 8, 2008 9:08 AM CDT
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lol
he doesn't get any free games. How is that lucky?
by Thelonious on
Apr 8, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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true
but when he pays for that package that many of us over here pay for it covers EVERYTHING. The people on this board who live in IA are losing up to 6 games a day right now.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on
Apr 8, 2008 9:15 AM CDT
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Where I live in Iowa...
...Mediacom and the sattellite companies all offer CSN Chicago. I'm right on the border with Illinois, granted.
by cwyers on
Apr 8, 2008 9:18 AM CDT
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I'm
right across the lake from Chicago, literally. Yet all I get via Comcast here is WGN, and not the HD version either. Seeing as more and more games are on CSN or WCIU these days, every year I get fewer and fewer televised games. And when I read all these horror stories about EI and MLB.TV, I recoil in horror from the thought of possibly giving MLB more of my money for a service I'll perhaps maybe, if I live cleanly, receive, on a good day. What a frickin' mess.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
by Kegler on
Apr 8, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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I'm in Des Moines...
... clearly a Cubs town, and we don't have CSN unless you have a dish.
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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Maybe I should
look into the dish. Comcast just raised their rates and, frankly, I haven't been impressed. I feel like this is all costing far more than it's worth- with the exception of my high speed net access, of course.
"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young
by Kegler on
Apr 8, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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And its been this way for several years.
I believe since Comcast bought FSN Chicago, or however it went away. All it means is that now via digital cable we're given WGN and FSN Midwest (should be renamed FSN STL).
by DrakeCub on
Apr 8, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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I cancelled my MLB.tv subscription
I moved from Nashville, TN to Bloomington, IN this year. Bloomington is what, 250 miles from Chicago? I figured that I would still be able to get CHC games on the MLB.tv package. I enjoy sitting in my office in the afternoon doing paperwork and having the Cubs game in the background. No longer. Apparently Bloomington is in the blackout area for CHC. I get nothing played at Wrigley. No reason to keep the subscription as I won't be watching games in the evenings (most every road game) from my office. I don't watch TV in my office, so they just lost revenue right there. I would be VERY happy to pay for the subscription if I could watch online during the day, but at night, I have lots of other stuff to be doing and rarely have time to sit and watch a ballgame.
Even though my subscription was bought from Nashville and carried over, somehow (IP address I guess, I am not a techie) they knew that I was logging in from IN and black me out. I am just as upset as you are Al. It is absolutely asinine.
by Archie on
Apr 8, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
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He's paying for what he wants...
...and he's getting what he's paying for.
Apparently that's a rare combination these days...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Apr 8, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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The drawback is
that any evening games over there start at midnight/1am over here, and thats assuming the Cubs aren't on the West coast.
My caffeine intake goes WAY up when the Baseball season starts...
by MadHatterBlues on
Apr 8, 2008 9:12 AM CDT
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Are there any baseball fans in the UK?
I've spent about a month over there, and I can't say I met one baseball fan.
by Thelonious on
Apr 8, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
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Not many
but there is a small hardcore of support.
We only get 2 games a week shown live on TV, and both shows start after Midnight so the number of viewers has always been pretty limited.
There is a few Baseball/Softball teams scattered around, but 99.9% of people have never even heard of the Cubs. I tend to get funny looks when I admit to being a Baseball fan
by MadHatterBlues on
Apr 8, 2008 9:24 AM CDT
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They same thing happens to me in Puerto Rico: No blackout on MLB.TV.
Apparently Bud doesn't know this is U.S. soil. (In Demand apparently knows because they enforce the Saturday EI blackout here.) In any case, why are you fans stateside paying the same price and not getting the same amount of games I get on MLB.TV? You're paying full price for a lesser product. Another moronic result of the blackout rule. And that one could get a congressperson interested.
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:42 PM CDT
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I hope that someday
if I am willing to pay for it, that I will be able to watch whatever game I want, whenever I want, regardless of where I am. The technology is there. The desire is there. It's simply a matter of the people with power making it happen.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 AM CDT 0 recs
LSA
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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indeed.
I should be able to pick games A-la-CARTE, for ghod's sake. I'm giving them MONEY!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on
Apr 8, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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Excellent summary, Al
This may be the hardest undertaking MLB has ever done because of all the various technologies (Cable/Sat/Web/mobile devices) and all the big companies and small markets wanting a piece of the pie.
I just hope it finally gets its due attention THIS year.
by Neifi Puppy on Apr 8, 2008 9:27 AM CDT 0 recs
I don't think it will be fixed until the new TV contract is negotiated.
And that will only happen if we as fans stay vigilant and start complaining now. If we wait until the contracts are signed it will be too late, I'm afraid.
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:45 PM CDT
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Choices
There should be a choice with the online package about which broadcast we can get. I thought at one point there was a logic behind it. You always get the home team TV announcers. But last year that didn't always work out. Listening to the boring Pittsburgh tv guys yesterday was almost as bad as the game itself.
They call me MISTER Fukudome!
by brokenland on Apr 8, 2008 9:35 AM CDT 0 recs
At least you got to see the whole game.
WGN viewers in Chicago (and elsewhere) didn't.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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It would be way too much of a hassle to
carry BOTH teams' feeds.....one should suffice. Those Pittsburgh guys may be boring, but that's preferable to crappy announce teams...and there are plenty of those out there -- Right, D-Backs Fans? Right , Padres Fans? Besides, you don't ALWAYS get the home teams announcers.
The feed chosen is usually either the easiest to cherry-pick/or, in some cases, the only one available.
For example, if the Cubs are on WGN, there is no CSN/Chicago feed. Therefore, EI has only one feed available for a Cubs game. Many times last year -- FSN Wisconsin was chosen when CSN Chicago was available for a Cubs home game.
Sometimes, over-the-air channels are covering games -- almost all of those are not on EI. Again, in this case -- there's only one feed available to EI.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Apr 8, 2008 4:20 PM CDT
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DirecTV
now carries both teams feeds, when available. They don't carry "Over the air" feeds but if both teams are on cable, EI subscribers get both feeds. Which makes sense, actually, since they are beaming both feeds anyway.
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by Josh77 on
Apr 9, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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Another thing
One more thing that I've noticed is different (perhaps mentioned already), is that last year about two hours after the game was over you can load up the whole game. This year it is the next day or even later. This is not the worst thing in the world, but I think it reiterates a bureaucratic incompentance within MLB.
They call me MISTER Fukudome!
by brokenland on Apr 8, 2008 9:52 AM CDT 0 recs
Yep.
Someone justifying their existence within MLBAM. Who does it hurt if you watch an archived game a couple hours after it ends? Like you'd watch some late West Coast game live instead. Stupid.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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Plus less persons would want to watch two days after the game was played.
Many times I can't watch the day game. If I cannot watch the relevant parts on MLB.TV that night I won't watch later. By then I've already seen the highlights on TV.
by Fraggin Judge on
Apr 8, 2008 11:49 PM CDT
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I'm far more annoyed about the fact...
...that you can't use the linescore to watch parts of the game anymore. Oh, and the fact that they don't bother to trim out the commerical breaks at all. Yay, five minutes of a "PLEASE STAND BY" graphic between every half inning.
by cwyers on
Apr 8, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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More stupidity.
Who is it hurting if you watch the video feed through the linescore?
And the second part of your post -- they could be feeding local commercials to you. This is going from idiocy to utter mindlessness. If I could think of a further superlative to "stupidity", I'd use it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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I don't think they're doing this for blackout reasons.
I think they're just getting lazy about it.
On the other hand, I can't complain too much - I'm not an MLB.tv subscriber, so just being able to watch the full game for free is very nice. But it was a lot nicer when I could watch a half-inning without having to scrub the video for it.
by cwyers on
Apr 8, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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Satellite Companies
can't supply local commercials to local viewers.
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by Josh77 on
Apr 8, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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but if they can black you out by area, then surely...
they can find a way to advertise locally.
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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It's easy to store the color black in a subscriber box.
Storing commercials, on the other hand...
by cwyers on
Apr 8, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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if cable companies can do it,
then surely dish companies can too.
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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How?
Cable companies use a satellite that sends a signal to a local receiver. Then that receiver sends the signal out to the subscribers via a cable--that's why it's called cable. Everyone in a local area is getting their signal through a local middleman. That middleman has the opportunity to insert local commercials.
A satellite company has a bird in the sky that broadcasts one signal across the entire country. There is no middleman to insert local commercials. They program your receiver so you don't get channels that you aren't supposed to get. There are some "spot beams" that only broadcast to certain parts of the country, but they are limited in capacity and are completely dedicated to showing local channels in smaller markets.
I have DirecTV and I have never, never seen a local commercial on anything other than a broadcast station. Don't you think if they had that ability, they would be doing that now on Bravo and Comedy Central, rather than forcing me to watch endless snake oil commercials that will make my boobs bigger?
The satellite companies absolutely CANNOT do this. Al is wrong. If you know of a way to do it, call the satellite companies because you're about to be a millionaire.
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by Josh77 on
Apr 8, 2008 12:13 PM CDT
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See...
...I'm all about dreaming big. This is what makes me a CUBS fan. I could jump ship and call myself a Red Sox fan or a Yankees fan, because that would be easy, but I choose to suffer my BIG IDEAS of winning the world series.
...see, I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, but at least I'm consistent.
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by IowaCubs- on
Apr 8, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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You may be right about satellite.
But on cable and on MLB.TV, they absolutely CAN do it.
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by Al on
Apr 8, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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