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Hello Soto

Raise your hand if you still think there's something wrong with Geovany Soto.

Just as I thought -- no hands raised. Soto smashed two home runs last night. But look at this photo for people raising their hands for Soto for the right reason -- here's what our section looked like after the first one landed just a few rows below us (yes, that's us in the top row, me bundled against the cold in a blue coat, behind BCB reader ballstitch, in a burgundy Florida State sweatshirt, arm raised):

Hello Soto!

Soto's two HR and six RBI, both career highs, led a 17-hit, nine-walk attack (eight of the nine walks coming from the fifth through the eighth inning) and the Cubs demolished the Brewers 19-5, the most runs the Cubs have scored in almost exactly seven years, since May 5, 2001, when the Cubs took a garden-variety 4-1 lead into the seventh and then scored eight runs in consecutive innings and smashed the Dodgers 20-1.

Balls were really jumping out of the yard during batting practice, many sailing over our heads. So since my friend Sue showed up last night, and she likes to organize Home Run Derby in our section, we played. BCB reader ballstitch sat with us along with a friend of his, and the friend had Soto in the pool. He was in the men's room when Soto hit his second HR in the fourth, and when he returned we didn't say a word until he asked, "Did Soto hit another HR?" First, I said, "You have to be present to win", and then we all paid up.

It was that kind of fun night both for fans and players. The game was pretty much over in the first inning, when the Cubs sent ten men to the plate and scored six runs, smacking singles and doubles all over the place -- you don't have to hit only three-run homers to score tons of runs -- and Ryan Dempster, who had a single himself in that six-run first, threw well enough to win with that kind of offensive onslaught, although he labored in later innings, throwing 108 pitches in six innings and issuing five walks. His command and control are going to have to get better to continue to win, because obviously, the Cubs aren't going to score this many runs every day.

It's fun when they do, though, isn't it? Leading 13-5 in the 8th, the Cubs piled on Brewers reliever Derrick Turnbow, who had absolutely nothing last night -- he gave up four hits and four walks, and was charged with six runs, making his ERA an unsightly 15.63 (Jeff Suppan, the Brewer starter, allowed eight earned runs; his ERA, 3.48 at gametime, jumped to 5.19). Ryan Theriot got a RBI with a bases-loaded walk, and then Ronny Cedeno came up with the chance to hit his second grand slam of the month. (Read that again; would you have believed a phrase like that a year ago?)

He nearly got it, too; his bases-clearing double hit off the right-center field wall. It got so bad that Ned Yost, who had clearly wanted to save his 2,756 relievers for another day and wanted Turnbow to finish the inning, had to yank him after 43 (!) pitches and finish the inning with lefty Mitch Stetter.

Discordant note: Bob Howry, put in the game with a 13-3 lead to work out some of his early-season troubles, instead raised his own ERA to 8.10 by allowing a two-run HR to Brewers backup catcher Mike Rivera, who came into the game at 1B after Yost cleared his bench. Lou Piniella did so too, wisely giving Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Kosuke Fukudome and Soto some rest and giving all five of his bench position players some playing time. In the 8th inning, pinch-hitter Mike Fontenot nearly got to bat a second time.

So the Cubs finish April with a 17-10 record; the 17 wins is the most ever for a Cub team in the month of April, though that record is a bit misleading -- teams play so many more games now in April than they did years ago. The previous record, 16, set in 1969, was posted in 23 games (16-7). The 27 games played since March 31 is exactly one-sixth of the season; match the 17-10 record, not an unreasonable thing to do, five more times and you will wind up 102-60. I'm not saying the Cubs will do this, or that it would be easy to do this, only that it is possible.

Derrek Lee tied the team record for HR in April, eight, originally set by Lee Walls in 1958. The 1958 Cubs played only 13 games in April -- and Walls hit his eight in an eight-day, seven-game stretch, as follows:

4/23: 1
4/24: 3
4/25: 0
4/26: 1
4/27: 0
4/28: off day
4/29: 2
4/30: 1

And for the kicker: all eight were hit on the road, in the new major league cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco. Walls hit 24 HR in 1958, never more than 11 in any other season, sort of the Tuffy Rhodes of his era.

Enjoy these -- they don't come around very often. We spotted "Friggin' Hot Dog Vendor" again last night and this time decided to buy some from him -- they were friggin' good. Also thanks to BCB reader cubsonWGN4ever, who stopped by to say hi last night. With Carlos Zambrano going this afternoon, the Cubs are in good position to win the series -- and then say goodbye to the Brewers for almost three months, because they won't meet them until the last week of July at Miller Park, and not again at Wrigley until mid-September. Today's game thread will be up at 11 am CDT.

More photos from last night:

Safe!
Derrek Lee slides into second on his first-inning double

Hey Prince! Jump!
This Felix Pie AB resulted in a foul ball... but look at Prince Fielder's reaction.

Another win!
Matt Murton, Felix Pie and Reed Johnson celebrate last night's win. Click on photos to open a larger version in a new browser window. All photos by David Sameshima

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Win today

and let’s take care of the Cardinals. I can’t wait for this series! These late games are killing me though, don’t know how you get up for work Al!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on May 1, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto for All-Star game starter!

Not sure how one could argue for anybody else over him thus far!

by HereComesASpecialBoy on May 1, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto

Is definitely a good thing for this team. Let’s hope he keeps crushing the ball all season. No more strikeout records.

by adam316 on May 1, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

You always expect a rookie to slump at some point, and maybe take longer to get out of that slump than a veteran. Soto just came from a real confidence-sapping experience in Washington. What a way to bounce back!

Isn’t it great to see a Cubs position prospect showing such a mature self-confident approach? Not pressing, just expressing his talent and getting on with the job in hand.

by simonuk on May 1, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He definitely should be

but McCann and Martin are both more popular so either of them will start. It’s a popularity contest.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily.

If Soto’s numbers stay up, remember there are way more people attending Cub games and getting ballots than there are Braves fans at Braves games.

The Dodgers draw well, but I bet Cub fans can outvote them.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Point

I’m thinking more of casual fans that aren’t Braves or Cubs or Dodgers fans. They already know who McCann and Martin are, Soto’s a new name for them. I’m just playing devil’s advocate here, I hope Soto makes it and starts.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Soto does have the advantage of playing at least some games on a national superstation, while McCann and Martin don’t.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

braves

are on tbs so mccann does play on a superstation – but its not as good as WGN!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 1, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not anymore

I think last year was the last year of that deal. TBS now does nationally broadcasts, but has no connection to the Braves anymore.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on May 1, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh

my roommates a braves fan…funny this never came up – thanks for the tip!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 1, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great win...

But when you score 6 runs in the first, there is no need for our starting pitcher to walk 5. It just isnt right, but again i think we are picking at the edges way too much when we dont need to. That is what got Howry in trouble with the HR, he fell behind and everyone in the park new what was coming.

But on a lighter note, someone correct me if i am wrong, but EVERY position player on the team had a hit except for 2 (Blanco and Pie). Pretty impressive!

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 1, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pie looks like he's progressing somewhat

He took a lot of pitches and walked once (should have been twice on a bum call). I hope they don’t trade him. There’s really no reason to right now. The way the Cubs are playing they can let him get more work in with Lou and Perry.

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 1, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He is showing better patience

That’s a good first step. His AB’s are looking a little better so maybe he is starting to learn a few things.

by rlpete on May 1, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Pie's bat

look too long for him to anyone else? The length of the bat he uses just looks uncomfortable to me for some reason.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 1, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he wraps it around his head too much.

Personally i would like to see him take a few cuts with the batt parallel to his body instead of flat and near his shoulder.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 1, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing...

...that Pie struggles with, is pulling his hands in close for the inside pitches. He tries to fully extend on every pitch (regardless of location) which you just can’t do unless you have the ability to hit the ball in front of the plate every single time (which he and few others do).

Because of this, he ties himself up quite often, which is why you see him break so many bats. All good hitters have the abilty to bring their hands in and occasionally inside out a pitch, so they can still get the fat part of the bat on the ball. I don’t know if he will ever learn this, but if he can’t, the league is just going to kill him with inside heat.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 1, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see Pie's at bats

But he did strike out 2 times in 4 at bats…

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did say

they were better not good .

He does seem to be taking a few more pitches especially bad ones. He is still striking out a lot though.

by rlpete on May 1, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In his defense, that first K was on a very questionable call.

I thought that home plate ump was ridiculously demonstrative, too. For a second, I thought he might be trying to test Lou.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was

definitely a bad call. Pie knew it, the fans knew it, and I think the ump knew it too.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 1, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He showed amazing self-control, I thought

certainly more than I would have. That pitch was WAY bad, not even close…

by crazymountain on May 1, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you have

16 Ks in 44 ABs, you really cant say or do much.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 1, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I'm most impressed with...

Was that the Cubs were still being patient late in the game yesterday with that huge lead. They loaded the bases and Cedeno knocked in 3 more runs. So many times you see players just hacking away to get the game over with; this can lead to bad habits that spill over into the next game (today).

''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.

by CubsBullsBears on May 1, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rrrrrronny!

is murdering the ball with bases loaded – for my money, he has got to get into the lineup somehow (not sure how)

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 1, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aisle 137 today

Come find me….GO CUBS.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 1, 2008 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dempster is going to have to improve that control...

As I really doubt he’s going to continue to hold opposing hitters to a .173 AVG. He’s walking people way too much. He’s been fortunate to get away with it to this point, but he’s certainly playing with fire.

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hehe

Hey, Al, I like how you ask people to raise their hands if they have doubts about Soto . . . and that’s followed by a large pic of about 100 cub fans with their hands raised. lol.

jk

go cubbies . . . two out of three!

by hoosiercubbie on May 1, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Unintentional humor. Obviously, those of us there last night have no doubts!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I made a small edit in the copy to make it make more sense.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Incidentally....

... according to this neat little search tool at baseball-reference.com, last night’s game was only the 12th in MLB history (since 1901) with the score of 19-5 (and the first since 1989).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To all you ledge-jumpers

You can come back in. Yes, the Cubs lost 2 of 3 to the Nationals and the first game of the Brewers but the season isn’t over yet. Enjoy it.

by rlpete on May 1, 2008 9:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One would hope

That no one would ever jump when the Cubs are in first place.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 1, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A game is a game is a game

Just one of those series’ that you have to forget.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 1, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough

No team has ever gone 162-0. Or even 132-30.

We’re going to lose games, sometimes series. Coming back afterwards and getting back on track is the real question. Good teams do just that.

This Cubs team looks quite good, by the way. Yes, they’ll provoke some anxiety on occasion, and be downright infuriating at times. That’s baseball. We’re going to see them in the postseason again this year, I’m confident of that.

by MN exile on May 1, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cautiously Optimistic

as I am with most things in life.

by SecondSon on May 1, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never worried about Soto...

...in fact, he is the best fastball hitter on the team, period. He rarely misses a hittable fastball in the zone, which is the sign of a hitter who can become very dangerous. To compare him to someone like Soriano, Fonzy misses a lot of hittable fastballs because he is tardy with his swing, not Soto.

If Soto continues to build confidence, which will allow him to recognize and stay away from the outside breaking balls, this guy could be a real presense for a long time.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 1, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So, during the eight inning last night, I came up with this crazy theory.

Derrick Turnbow and Eric Gagne are actually the same person. Yes, that’s right, the Brewers never acquired Gagne; he’s actually pitching in a Mexican semi-pro league after disgracing himself in Boston.

Following the Cordero debacle, Ned Yost, in his infinite wisdom, thought he could get an edge on the rest of the National League by appearing to have Gagne as the Brewers closer. Never happened—that’s really Turnbow in a fake beard and “goggles.”

This partially explains why Turnbow was so laughably horrible last night. The poor guy is just plain worn out from having to be two of the 4,208 relief pitchers in the Brew Crew’s pen. I humbly submit this for your collective approval.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right to me.

Or maybe that was Ned Yost pitching in Turnbow’s uniform wearing a really bad wig.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turnbow's

uniform look unnaturally large on him as well.

Also, I know there was a fan post about this yesterday but MLB needs to do one of two things, force these players to wear proper uniforms, or not consider it a hit batsman when the ball grazes the baggy uniform.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 1, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LSA!

AMEN! Return to the sock-holsters! No long pants at ALL!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 1, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mexican semi-pro?

You sure you don’t mean the California Penal League?

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, yes, well...

...he was there initially but then escaped in a daring prison break and fled to mexico. I’m surprised this didn’t get more media attention.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Good stuff.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cedeño

Anybody else catch Lou’s interviews where he mentioned Cedeño-Playing Time-CF in the same sentence? Because Cedeño has been crazy hot the whole year (1.000+ OPS) and because Piniella loves to play the hot hand I think he will find a place for him in the lineup, somehow, somewhere. The most obvious place is indeed CF where Johnson is one mini-slump away from having awful offensive stats (he has pretty much only hit singles this year).

by Luis on May 1, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Has he every played CF?

You can’t just plug guys into positions. Ronny’s not overly fast and I don’t want him making an error that costs the Cubs a win.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 1, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about?

Reed is a sparkplug. He guts EVERY play out. Why would you bench him???

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 1, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not being

sarcastic. Reed is a backup, and I’m happy to see Sori come back, but I wouldn’t put Cedeno in center field and bench Reed. It was a great move to sign him. Ronny’s playing better, it’s true (I missed the GSHR because I was on honeymoon) but I’ve yet to be convinced, and the outfield really isn’t his thing.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 1, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen

Reed Johnson stats?

I know defense is important but at some point the difference in production outweights it. Would you have a CF with a .675 OPS?

The best example is the Braves from the 90s. They had a butcher with good offense and wizard with a horrendous bat at SS. What did they do? They played Blauser, and with a lead, they switched him for Belliard.

Like I said, you have to at least consider it.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont understand why everyone...

Wants to find a replacement for Reed Johnson. I think the guy has proven himself. He is a gamer and should be playing CF as much as possible.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 1, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gamer? yes; Contriburor? Yes; Starter?

That is your opinion, but it would be better if you could base some of it on his offensive stats.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because the guy is hitting...

....296/.379/.333 on the season, which is frighteningly aenemic. That’s a .712 OPS or a 88 OPS+. Just… bad. Which might not even be so bad if it wasn’t based on an unsustainable .329 BABIP. Johnson is troubling.

And that’s still almost twice as good as Pie’s .205/.280/.273 production.

by cwyers on May 1, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A .329 BABIP isn't that absurd...

And I wouldn’t expect him to continue to ahve such a poor extra base hit rate. He’s tended to hit for a bit more power.

So I suspect you’ll see a bit of a dropoff (not a ridiculous dropoff) in BABIP and an increase in extra base hits, and it’ll balance itself out. I’d suspect that a .700-.750 OPS is about right for Johnson, just with a different distribution of OBP and SLG.

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible but

In 2007 he had an OPS+ of 66. He may stay in the .700-.750 range which is not good but at least tolerable or he may get even worse (his numbers have been steadily declining the past weeks). You need to have a backup plan.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, so let's split the difference there...

...and say a .725 OPS. If Ryan Theriot keeps hitting .323/.396/.434, or something like it (which is not the likeliest scenario, but follow with me for a moment), then you’re still looking at whether you want to replace a .830 OPS or a .725 OPS. There are other concerns, I know, and I do think that true-talent, Reed Johnson is a better hitter than Ryan Theriot. But Lou tends to base his decisions on a smaller sample size than I do.

(And as a fourth outfielder, I think a .725 OPS is alright. As a starting center fielder who is about average defensively, it troubles me.)

by cwyers on May 1, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

One important point is

This discussion will not matter if/when Theriot stops hitting as he is doing now. If he cools off then essentially the question would simply be replacing Theriot with Cedeño. As long as he has an OPS north of .800 though the decision becomes a little more complex.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're ignoring two things here...

1. Theriot is not going to come close to maintaining this .830 OPS. I know you know this, so why are you using it as your argument?

2. Defense. Cedeno may actually be an upgrade over Theriot defensively, and isn’t likely to be a downgrade. Cedeno is certainly a downgrade defensively from Johnson in CF.

Further, what are you arguing? If you’re going by what Piniella will do, then discussing who Cedeno will replace is a moot point – he’s not replacing either player. If you’re discussing who Cedeno SHOULD replace, it’s Theriot.

That doesn’t mean that CF is fine. It just means that we have problems at both SS and CF, and Cedeno is a more appropriate solution at SS than CF.

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This only became a discussion because Lou mentioned center field.

And so the question is, is Lou likely to play Cedeno in center field at some point here? If he’s leaving Theriot in at shortstop, he very well could look to use Cedeno in center field at some point. Why do I think this? Because I heard him mention it.

You’re right – we should be using Cedeno at shortstop, and try and work out the cluster-- we have in center between Johnson and Pie for the time being. But I have a hard time seeing Lou doing that when he sees Theriot as a good ballplayer and Theriot has a small-sample-size performance to back that opinion up.

(What’s being ignored in all of this is that Theriot has been an absolute butcher at short so far this season – his RZR numbers are close to making me ill. But Lou doesn’t seem to share this awareness.)

by cwyers on May 1, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't have problems at SS

We may (probably) have them. Theriot probably won’t keep an OPS above .800 for the whole year… but… why not take advantage of it while he is posting it?? And who knows, stranger things have happened.

I don’t mind if Lou continues to have Theriot at SS as long as he is producing as now. If he stops, you replace him. That’s one of the things I like about Lou. And while his SB% is bad this year, last year he had a great ratio so the guy gives you yet another thing in the lineup.

Cedeño could replace Theriot, obviously he has a higher ceiling and probably is a better defender. But what if Johnson’s numbers continue to decline and resemble his numbers from 2007? What if Pie keeps being Pie?

by Luis on May 1, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem at SS...

is temporarily not a big problem (at least offensively). It will eventually be a problem. The concern I have is that (as with Fontenot) Piniella will fail to observe the downward trend and be fixated on the hot start and hang on too long with Theriot. But that’s for a later discussion, if and when it happens.

In your “what if” scenario, I suspect that we’d go the trade route to get a CF. I don’t see Cedeno playing CF for us. I just don’t think that Piniella supports the idea anymore.

That said, I don’t anticipate this being an issue. I think Johnson is healthy enough to maintain a .700-.750 OPS, which is tolerable enough that Piniella won’t make a drastic change.

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, we have problems at shortstop.

They just happen to be defensive, not offensive, problems.

by cwyers on May 1, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

It’s always better when the problems are defensive and not offensive :p.

Something will eventually have to give because I just don’t see Lou having Cedeño on the bench if he keeps being this hot.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would argue that.

I find Theriot’s defensive troubles very disconcerting, for one.

by cwyers on May 1, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me put it this way

I’d rather have a SS with a .830 OPS than an Izturis at the height of his powers.

And I know it’s unlikely that that .830 OPS will last, but I would ride it out for as long as it does.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont care about his stats...

He fits well with the team. He has a role and he does it pretty well.

That is the one part of stats i dont get, if the guy fits on a team, and is fairly productive – then what is the issue? This isnt an all-star team, we cant have all players with statistics like DLee. We want that but we will never get it.

The guy plays hard, he wants to win and he has the right attitude.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 1, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me something

Looking at OPS, how low would Johnson’s have to be for you to bench him?

I’m sure he his OPS was .200 you would bench him. If it was .300 too. So, how low?

by Luis on May 1, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if I may...

...I think the point here is that, though Johnson has been fairly productive thus far, the numbers indicate he’s not likely to continue being as productive throughout the season. So the Cubs need to have a backup plan ready to go. For the time being, I’d like to see Johnson continue to start against LHP, but I want Pie to get more ABs and, therefore, start against RHP.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The #s show

that RJ has been productive v. LHP and fair v. RHP. Your plan is the way to go.

by DGU on May 1, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Ronny is a middle infielder. Pie and RJ are the CF’s and either one of them give us a great defensive OF.

by crazymountain on May 1, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno should eventually become the SS...

He’s not a CF, and shouldn’t be used there. That’s a Johnson/Pie platoon until Pie is ready for everyday duty (or until Pie proves without a doubt that he’s not an everyday player). Second base is Mark DeRosa’s spot once Soriano is healthy. Shortstop is the one spot that’s debatable. Right now, Theriot is hitting out of his mind to have an .830 OPS. If/when he cools off, Cedeno should be the replacement.

That’s probably not what will happen. Instead, Piniella will stick with Theriot and give Cedeno spot starts at SS and 2B, resting the starters. Cedeno will get AB, but it probably won’t be too much more frequent than what we’ve seen so far (a start every three games or so).

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a very reasonable assessment of the situation, and I agree.

I should be clear in that I’m not necessarily advocating that Cedeno should be moved to centerfield. I just don’t think the idea should be dismissed out of hand if Lou is seriously looking for ways to work him into the lineup.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't really make me feel confident

rofl

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 1, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Theriot and Cedeno at SS and Pie and Johnson in CF. Play the matchups and hot hands.

by rlpete on May 1, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played a bit of it in spring training.

Let’s just say the results were uninspiring.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Lou seemed to have completely abandon the idea...

...of putting Cedeno in centerfield until he mentioned it in the postgame last night. And even then, he seemed to be kicking himself for even bringing it up.

I dunno…if the Cubs offense explodes again (and it will…oh, it will…), maybe put Cedeno in center in a late-inning blowout situation? I guess the overriding problem here is that Theriot still has a foothold on the starting shortstop job, and he’s hitting well, too. As the saying goes, this is a nice problem to have. And a silver lining to it all is that Ronny is hitting very well in pinch hitting situations (1.833 OPS, if I’m reading baseball-reference correctly).

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking ahead?

With Pie beign Pie and Johnson deriving most of his value from batting avg. you need to have some sort of backup plan. Johnson’s OPS is barely above .700. A couple of bad games and it’s in Neifi territory. So you might want to give Cedeño in CF some careful considerations.

by Luis on May 1, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of people (hi, lemon20pie!) went bonkers...

...when the idea of trying Cedeno in center was first proposed. I thought it was worth at the very least considering. He probably wouldn’t be under as much pressure to make snap decisions out there, the way he is in the infield. And one would hope this might translate to fewer crazy throws. He appears to have the speed and arm strength as well. I’m not saying the idea is a slam dunk—but stranger things have happened.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers fans...

In the lower left corner of that first pic of Soto’s HR ball. They don’t look to happy : ( I like the way that pic captured the frenzy and jubilance of the Cubs fans opposing the indiference and burried sorrow of the Milwaukee fans.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 1, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Game last night!

I too agreed with the post above about the Cubs patience even with a big lead.

I must say I did start to feel a little sorry for Turnbow. Its not that much fun watching a guy struggle so much with no end in sight.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 1, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 things

That catch the fan made on Soto’s first homerun was pretty impressive. He didn’t even know he caught it at first.

And what the hell was Fielder doing in that picture? I didn’t see that play for some reason. Anybody know?

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 9:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a foul ball.

Not sure why Prince is doing that dance. Maybe with Mark Cuban in the house, he thought he’d audition for “Dancing With The Stars”.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was dancing?

Is that really what he’s doing? He looks like he’s getting ready to do a cartwheel. Could you imagine that? That would look hystrerical.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 1, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was jumping to try to catch the ball...

Seriously. If it’s the AB I’m remembering, it was a low line drive that just missed being a double (by about 2 feet) down the RF line. I imagine the ball hooked foul, and as such it would have been just over Fielder’s head. He was jumping to try to catch the ball.

by SouthernCub on May 1, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice win....

I really have adapted a different perspective early on in the season thanks to many posters on BCB, all I want is the Cubs to find ways to win games/series right now and I will worry later about how they are winning.

Soto hits the ball hard
Howry will turn it around
Patience at the plate that late in a blow out is rare
Murton is probably gone for now

Let’s win today to even up the season series.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 1, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tic-tock, tic-tock.

Buzz Bissinger, have fun playing “Waltzing Matilda” as the sinking ship that is your medium flames into the sea. I like your books, your work at Vanity Fair is compelling, and the fact that you’ve performed well as both an investigative reporter and sports journalist is impressive, but your sniveling, high-minded, arrogance of last night is beneath you and was a disservice to your career and your craft. Your consuming vanity and insufferable elitism is an example, in microcosm, of why your medium is dying, because it is in flexible, unwilling to adapt and has arrogated itself the supreme arbiter of what is and isn’t journalism and what people should and shouldn’t read, which, for a group people who are constantly bleating about First Amendment rights is a startlingly contradictory position.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 1, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sh*t!

Wrong thread. All apologies.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 1, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said, though.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need a dictionary.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 1, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The patience of the club last night

with the big lead was a great sign….I loved Soto’s comeback from the K streak. I don’t get to see any interviews, but he seems to be wise beyond his years. It is a great feeling to see him succeed. Did he get a standing O after his strikeout? Looked like it from here in NM…..

by crazymountain on May 1, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he did.

Acknowledgment of a great day.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love watching Soto hit.

It seems like everything that comes off his bat is just smoked.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 1, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Sori is definitly back in LF today?

Without a doubt? Obviously he’ll be first in the order.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 1, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

I imagine Blanco will catch today.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 1, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without a doubt....

did anyone read Mike Downey’s column? I think he was right on…..hard to say that about a sportswriter…..

by crazymountain on May 1, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That joke went completely...

Maybe I should stop posting and actually try to get some work done here…

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on May 1, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

Awesome.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 1, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And incidentally

Those homers put Soto in the lead for home runs hit by a catcher.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on May 1, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

... in the NL

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on May 1, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we need soto mustaches!

Glue on or grow your own! :D

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Lou In Blue on May 1, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also,

Al on tv they showed that there is some green on the wall, maybe time to change the logo on the site? After Tuesday nights game I didn’t feel like summer was even close but the shots last night gave me hope.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 1, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When I said

I was worried about Soto I wasn’t worried that he wouldn’t bounce back. My worry was that he would let himself get down mentally but that obviously didn’t happen. Great game for him. Great team game. Hope they saved some rund for today.

by sue369 on May 1, 2008 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs Kremlinology

I’m surprised no one has commented on Cuban at that game last night. It wasn’t that he was sitting in the bleachers—any attention whore can do that. He was sitting in the owner’s seats with Tribune executives. On a game televised on ESPN.

That was a clear message to someone. The Tribune was parading him around like the next owner of the team. The question is what that message was and who it was aimed at. One possible message was a shot at MLB saying that the Tribune considers Cuban to be the most likely purchaser and they’re trying to make this a fait accompli. The other possible message was to the other potential bidders, telling them that if they don’t get off their butts, Cuban is getting the team.

Interesting. But after last night, I think Mark Cuban’s chances of being the next Cub owner probably tripled, depending on how likely you thought it was in the first place.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 1, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Its all up to

the big man!

My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th

by Rudey on May 1, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prince Fielder is picking?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 1, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting - I didn't catch that.

I was too busy wondering why ESPN thought anyone wanted to watch an inning’s worth of Mark Cuban watching the game we tuned in to see.

by DGU on May 1, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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