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Howry Cow!

OK Cubs fans and offensive t-shirt haters, I may have the solution to the summer of our discontent caused by the Horry Kow shirts:

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All design credit goes to our resident photoshop wizard, santoswoodenlegs.*  Note that the shirt is not available for purchase.  As of this writing there are exactly three (3) in existence - one for me, one for SWL and one for Mr. Howry, the latter of which SWL may use to bribe Howry into autographing SWL's shirt (and hopefully signing off on allowing us to use his image). 

Before making this shirt generally available, I wanted to solicit the advice of BCB'ers regarding: (a) potential legal issues; (b) whether any of these would sell; and (c) if you know of a charity with which Mr. Howry is involved.  I am not at all interested in making any money on these, and I figure that the charitable angle may alleviate the potential legal issues.

lemon20pie, feel free to ignore this Fanpost.  ; )

* SWL only made the artwork as a joke and was not aware that I may make it commercially available.

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Would you buy a Howry Cow shirt for around $25 shipped, with all profit (about $5/shirt) going to Howry's favorite charity?
  • Yes
  • No
  • Maybe if someone other than joeschmitt was selling it

  88 votes | Results

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Absolutely I would.

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by northsider on May 10, 2008 11:46 PM CDT   0 recs

Very funny

I’d get one if I were willing to spend a nickel on anything Howry related.

by ak123 on May 11, 2008 12:05 AM CDT   0 recs

I almost fell off my chair

When I saw that shirt.

Hysterical!

Let me know if you go to print on them.

by BartlettBob on May 11, 2008 12:31 AM CDT   0 recs

Legal Issues are...

1) You’ll have to check and see if Howry has any objection to using his picture and name.
2) Although I doubt it, you’ll have to check and see if anyone has copyrighted or trademarked that expression.
3) Assuming the phrase isn’t copyrighted or trademarked (once again, I doubt this) you may want to do it.
4) You should check with the Cubs to see if they hold some kind of exclusive right to using the Cub hat on the shirt.

I know I’m being overly cautious, but better to be cautious, then get burned later.

I don’t think I’d want this shirt. It’s too obscure here in Denver. I’d love to get a “Bleed Cubbie Blue” shirt, though I know it was a hassle last year for whomever shipped them.

Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!

by Cubfansince1957 on May 11, 2008 2:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Agreed on all the above legal issues.

We are working on a new BCB shirt. I’ll let you all know.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 11, 2008 3:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm much more inclined...

...to buy three BCB shirts that actually say “Bleed Cubbie Blue” in one shape or form on them. One for me, a friend, and my father. I prefer something like this over “Howry Cow”; and to some degree, I still think it’s a pun on a racially-charged shirt. Not to the same degree, but still.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks cubfan

only your #2 is easy to check online using TESS - no mark appears to exist containing howry.

i hadn’t even really thought of the Cubs, but with the “C” on the hat they may very well have a say. does anyone have contact information for a decision-maker in legal or licensing or something for the Cubs?

As for Howry himself, hopefully SWL will get his permission when he presents him with his shirt!

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They still sell the original near Wrigley

Saw it last week by the mass of humanity outside the red line

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 11, 2008 8:52 AM CDT   0 recs

I saw it again yesterday

Me: “Get that racist &^$@ out of Wrigleyville”
Him: “A Korean guy makes ‘em. Tell him he’s racist.”
Me: (Not having time to educate an imbecile on historical relations between Korea and Japan). “OK, I will. Give me his address and I’ll send the Cubs to come talk to him, too. They’re looking for him.”
Him: (Shrug)

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on May 11, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Send this along to Peter Chase.

They’ll have someone go check it out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 11, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My thoughts

Although it looks very goofy, the real humor involved is way too subtle. There are multiple layers of information and context that the viewer needs in advance in order to “get” this shirt. Very clever, but I can’t see it being too commercial.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 11, 2008 10:02 AM CDT   0 recs

I think they mean

commercial for us. Cubs fans, who will get it.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed -

the only people that would really “get” it would know about the horry kow shirt, which is a very small subset of the population but a relatively large subset of cubs fans and pretty much every BCB reader. that’s probably enough of a market to go to print – selling 100 shirts would make $500 for Howry’s charity (whatever that is . . . anyone? bueller?).

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 11, 2008 12:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great Shirt

Howry doesnt deserve it they ways hes played so far

by PieFan08 on May 11, 2008 10:39 AM CDT   0 recs

While perhaps not a legal issue...

...I would think you to have at least a moral obligation to get SWL’s permission to use the artwork design. This one’s pretty obvious, so I’m guessing you already have or else you wouldn’t have gone this far yet.

Still, the way the diary is written (especially the * disclaimer) leaves open the possibility that SWL has not signed off on the selling of the shirts, so if that’s the case, and if this effort goes farther, then I would hope SWL has a say in this.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 11, 2008 10:46 AM CDT   0 recs

yeah I am in discussions with SWL

and he gave me permission to post this fanpost. we will decide jointly whether to sell the shirt to the public. thank you for the concern.

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 11, 2008 11:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I bought him off with a free shirt.

SWL comes cheap.

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 11, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Write Howry, c/o the Cubs

Tell him your story, ask him about a charity and then do it. This way you’re covered. If he’s for it and he can specify a charity and to boot – perhaps – match the monies received through purchases upto a certain point, you’ll not only have a chance to make a hit with him, you’d be covered.

On the subject matter question, yes I’d buy one. In fact, I’d get two…

by blackhawk24 on May 11, 2008 6:17 PM CDT   0 recs

word.

i think you are right. i may wait to give SWL the chance to present a shirt to Howry at the Cubs/Padres series in San Diego. but i think a letter to the man himself c/o the cubs, maybe cc’ing Cubs general counsel Michael Lufrano (maybe it can turn into the sickest in-house job offer i can think of) would be the best course of action.

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 11, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My personal opinion is....

the Cubs, MLB, and the MLBPA are gonna sink this ship before it even get’s out of drydock, irregardless of how Howry feels about it. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I just hope he’s cool enough to accept the shirt I’m gonna offer him.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 12:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Cubs

Yeah, I can’t see the Cubs wanting to sign off on a shirt that draws attention to something else that is ugly, even if it is a clever play on it.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 12, 2008 8:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A question for Joe -

how did you get the 62 to look correct? What’s the name of the font?

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 12, 2008 12:31 AM CDT   0 recs

That question should be directed toward me...

and since I’m at work and I did that awful mess of a graphic at home…I have no idea. But I can tell you that it wasn’t a font that was “just right”. I found one that was close enough and then it got the living crap stretched and squeezed out of it in photoshop.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahh, I see.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 13, 2008 3:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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