... lose some.

Of the pitchers the Cubs sent Mitre, Pinto & Nolasco, at this point only Pinto is doing something at the moment.

What happened to Mitre though?

Selective hindsight and reliving old trades usually only raises the blood pressure.

There is no way to know if he would have been able to achieve this in the Cubs organization. It is foolish to get upset about this.

in spring training a couple (three?) years ago. He pitched in a couple (three or four?) major league games and threw heat. He looked like a young Zambrano.

giving up Bobby Hill in some trade that netted us close to nothing. It makes me feel like shit when I hear that’s he’s almost dominating an independent league right now.

It’s fun to think about what might have been (how about a rotation of a healthy Wood, healthy Prior, Big Z, and Dontrelle before he went south) but there ain’t a thing to be done about it. Some deals come out great, some don’t.

As you’ve stated, this was a bad deal mostly because of JP’s failure rather than Pinto’s success. Oh well.

Good for Renyel Pinto. Can’t hardly fault Jim Hendry for the trade at the time.

That trade drove me nuts when it happened and the Cubs absolutely ham-handled the situation by not trading him to a contender (they were 43-62 on July 31). You have to remember that it wasn’t just Pinto; it was Nolasco and Mitre. Granted, we were supposed to be DEEP in SP at both the minor and major league levels at the time (no need to pick at scabs, so I won’t name names) but when the trade was made, Pinto was the No. 6 prospect in the system according to Baseball America, Nolasco was No. 19 and Mitre had appeared in 35 games for us with 18 starts. The next year, Nolasco was the Marlins’ No. 8 prospect and Pinto was No. 13. In return, we got one year out of a singles hitter with a noodle arm (although he did have a career high 48 XBH for us) Still, it was a brutal trade the day it happened and it’s a brutal trade in hindsight. I don’t blame Sackman for venting here. Pinto was always going to be a stud and Nolasco should be OK as well.

That trade has decimated our franchise. If we only had something positive to think about.

do I have to say—that trade did not get us “nothing.” It netted us a draft pick that became Josh Donaldson, who is our #7 prospect according to Baseball America.

Donaldson for Pinto is a pretty fair trade.

Very funny. I didn’t know Pierre was still on the team since Pie can’t get time today.

we after all stole Lee from them

get me started on the Brock trade….

you have to let it go, man

...I can’t help noticing you posted this well after the Cubs completed a three-game sweep of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Now, I’m not saying this isn’t a topic worty of some (limited) discussion, but, y’know, there’s a time to microanalyze every move Jim Hendry has and hasn’t made, and there’s a time to celebrate and make the most of an opportunity to feel really good about this Cubs team. I think you might have misjudged in this case.

So, no I don’t feel like you do. Peter Frampton might though…....

every team in baseball has made similar deals…some work, some don’t..

with the part of a situational reliever. How many innings has he thrown? Will he be a closer?. I personally at the time was bent on giving up Nolasco, how wrong I was.
Now if Pinto starts closing in the future and racks up 35-38 saves a year, give me a call, but for now can’t get to burned on the this trade, just Pierre was weak. Pierre fooled the Cubs, now the Dodgers got fooled.

Who wouldn’t be mad?