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Cubs looking at Jim Edmonds?

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Unless, it comes with a guaranteed World Series title this year, no thank you.

Edmonds looked done last year and I was surprised the Padres signed him for as much as they did. Edmonds is batting a whopping .178/.265/.233 and is not aging gracefully in CF.

I know our OF has questions, and that Pie needs to hit and to have playing time, but would this seem like a good move to anyone here?

 

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This would be

a Craig Monroe type deal, but I dont think it happens. Just because one or two writers mentions it doesnt mean it happen.

San Diego offense is putred and THEY released him, it doesnt make sense.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 9:35 AM CDT   0 recs

Not only does he look like he's done,

he is one of my least liked Cardinals of all time. Beyond my dislike for him, his bat is weak and he’s lost enough speed that he’s not a plus center fielder any more. I see Pie or Johnson putting up better numbers and playing a much better CF.

by N Oakley on May 12, 2008 9:35 AM CDT   0 recs

Good morning!

Let me be the first inform you that this subject was already beaten to death in this fanpost of a few days ago. Move along, please. Nothing to see (say) here.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 9:35 AM CDT   0 recs

His value was beaten, but recent

discussions have the Cubs considering. Thus the discussion.

by N Oakley on May 12, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What recent discussions?

Post a link if you have one. I have seen none.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My point exactly.

Since when do our discussions - or anyone else’s - mean the Cubs are doing anything?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually I saw this also

On Sports Illustrated.com. Under the MLB Rumors section.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/50118

I don’t know how to post links properly. Sorry.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 12, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's the same article.

See at the bottom where it says “Chicago Tribune”?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

I saw that after I posted this. Sorry.

So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!

by McRipper on May 12, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's bull...

Just another lightweight piece from Van Dyke over at the Trib. Basically:

New face coming?
Could the Cubs be interested in signing center fielder Jim Edmonds, just released by the Padres after hitting .178 and struggling in the field? They are exploring the possibility, according to some in the know.

Manager Lou Piniella long has desired another left-handed bat to go with Kosuke Fukudome. Felix Pie has been unreliable. Signing Edmonds could allow the Cubs to send Pie to Triple-A Iowa for steady work.

Asked about the possibility of a left-handed bat being added, Piniella said, “We’ll just have to see what happens.”

The link is here

by Damen Jackson on May 12, 2008 10:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

who in the Cubs is considering?

I can see it now – Jim and Lou holding their daily staff meeting…

Jim: Okay, anyone have any ideas on how we can improve the ballclub?

brief silence…

Randy Bush: Well, San Diego just released Edmonds. We could take a look at him.

another brief silence…

All: Bwwwahhhaahhaaahhhaaa!

Coffee spills all over the place, doughnut pieces and bagel chunks flying everywhere…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 12, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cubs post listing for an Assistant General Manager on Monster.com

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 12, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait.

The title of this post is not correct, unless you have some evidence from another source that says the Cubs are ACTUALLY looking at Edmonds, rather than just starting another baseless rumor.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 9:43 AM CDT   0 recs

Link, please?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, I'm posting about this right now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No evidence the Cubs are exploring Jim Edmonds

Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.

by MDBNIU on May 12, 2008 9:48 AM CDT   0 recs

See the discussion above for the alleged "evidence"...

... which, IMO, consists of Dave van Dyck making something up.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 9:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

FWIW

Bruce Levine said the Cubs are looking at Edmonds over the weekend on AM 1000.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 12, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's probably..

.... who van Dyck is quoting as “those in the know”.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's the real scoop.

It comes from this MLBTR post titled “Cubs Considering Edmonds?” which says:

According to Dave van Dyck of the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs are “exploring the possibility” of signing center fielder Jim Edmonds. This was first reported by Bruce Levine of ESPN Radio 1000 yesterday evening.

Here’s the Tribune article. It says:

Could the Cubs be interested in signing center fielder Jim Edmonds, just released by the Padres after hitting .178 and struggling in the field? They are exploring the possibility, according to some in the know.

That poses it as a question, and seems like just another sportswriter rumor here. NO source is cited, just “some in the know”. I’m guessing the “some in the know” consists of a couple of writers and/or radio guys sitting around shooting the breeze.

We demolished this last week. Signing Edmonds would be beyond stupid.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 9:48 AM CDT   0 recs

Yup, just MSM drones creating content.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here is the question: What is the best for the club and what is best for Pie's development

I think they start with the thoughts is whether Pie can develop in a pennant race as a part time player or not.

ANSWER: NOT GOOD ODDS

Does Edmunds temporarily fit that void? What is the void? Defensive utility OF’er and left-handed bat as a part time player?

ANSWER: LOOK INTO IT.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on May 12, 2008 10:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This has nothing to do with Pie...

Edmonds is just a bad bad baseball player at this point.

by SouthernCub on May 12, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Precisely.

If the Cubs need a defensive outfielder well, hey, HOW ABOUT FELIX PIE? And if you want to talk offense:

Jim Edmonds’ OPS so far in ‘08: .498 in 90 ABs.
Felix Pie’s OPS so far in ‘08: 571 in 63 ABs.

I’d still like to see Pie start unconditionally against RHP.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

LSA

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait!

Can Edmonds pitch? Maybe….

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on May 12, 2008 10:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Anybody Got A Rejuvenator?

Hey, if someone out there has some type of rejuvenator that can make guys play as if there were five years younger, then signing Edmonds would be a great idea. Edmonds, in his prime, was a better player than Reed Johnson and Felix Pie are now. However, Edmonds is now not only past his prime, he’s past being even a quality 5th (not even 4th) outfielder.

by memphiscub on May 12, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, Al...on a slightly related note...

...did you happen to notice the headline of this Mariotti column? Awfully similiar to the title of your game recap of 5/10/08, don’tcha think?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 9:54 AM CDT   0 recs

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 12, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

HMMMMMMMMMMMM indeed.

Maybe I should try some more of that. See if he uses something about “Lessons” in the next couple of days.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not that this is surprising...

...but I couldn’t even finish reading the column in question. I got as far as the phrase ”...why the majors’ highest-scoring offense tends to dribble spittle away from Wrigley.” and closed the tab on my browser. Even when Mariotti is trying to pay the Cubs a compliment, he sounds like a bitter, vindictive a-hole.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Title the next recap...

...”Mariotti Sucks” and see if he copies that.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 12, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LMAO

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, that's not even debatable

that’s straight up plagiarism right there. You know, a headline like, “Cubs sweep D’Backs” now, that would be something else. But that is just bad. You should email his editors a link to your story.

What if you got Jay Mariotti fired Al? That would be awesome!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on May 12, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to defend Mariotti

but most writers don’t come up with the actual headlines. It is interesting how the gist of the column was similar.

by madeindetroit on May 12, 2008 2:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well then...

... it’s possible one of the copy editors who writes headlines may read this site. If so, HI!!!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 2:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That sound you hear

is print media teetering on its last legs…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Please watch

...Season 5 of THE WIRE, The Great Show of All-Time.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 12, 2008 8:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've seen The Wire

from beginning to end. What a great television show.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 7:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The only team looking into Edmonds

is his sons little league team. They need a 3rd base coach.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 10:08 AM CDT   0 recs

and he would...

...hold up every runner approaching third, then will wave them home frantically so they have to slide and turn what should have been an easy score into a close play at the plate.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 12, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Couldnt have said it better myself

The first lesson at his first practice would be titled “How to make an easy play look hard”

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If Edmonds Joins The Cubs

That would guarantee a Gold Glove for the Cubs! I mean… wasn’t he the default vote on every ballot?

by daeviant on May 12, 2008 10:30 AM CDT   0 recs

Well...

As mentioned the other day, I would like the Cubs to investigate the addition of Jim Edmonds. What can it possibly hurt? Lou Piniella would like another left handed bat and Edmonds plays center field. Plus there is no denying his baseall pedigree. He’s a battle tested, pennant chasing tested ballplayer.

Do the due diligence on the guy I say. It’s going to cost the major league minimum to sign him because San Diego and St. Louis are on the hook for his $10 million owed in 2008. If the scouting on Edmonds checks out OK then bring him in for a physical. If the physical checks out OK then sign him. If he works out, then great. If not the simply cut him and there is very little lost.

Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.

by MDBNIU on May 12, 2008 10:40 AM CDT   0 recs

Do you not read?

Edmonds might have been the worst regular player in the National League up to the time he was cut.

The Cubs probably have five outfielders in their farm system who are better. I’d take Sam Fuld or Josh Kroeger or even Tyler Colvin before Edmonds.

It’s absolutely pointless. Move on.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's all in the name

It’s like people saying we should go out and get Kenny Lofton. We don’t need a guy who’s best suited to platoon.

The only reason we would ever sign someone right now is to get Pie everyday AB’s in the minors….but I’m pretty sure we did that last year. It didn’t help his production in the bigs. He just needs to figure it out.

We don’t need an injury waiting to happen (who will only hit .200) playing CF for us.

I don’t want Griffey, Lofton, or Edmonds. 1992-2003…I would have taken any one of them.

I wish people would quit getting excited about names. We need production, not names.

by walsh2317 on May 12, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark Grace

was back in Chicago over the weekend and only looked about 270….maybe we could sign him up as a backup first baseman?

by walsh2317 on May 12, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lol.

Right after we sign Mike Bielecki to shore up the rotation.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha..

and we might as well sign David Wells while we’re at it..;)

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"

by Bump Bailey on May 12, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And Ted Abernathy.

The fact that he died four years ago shouldn’t stop us.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 12, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What can it possibly hurt?

How ‘bout wasting the valuable time of Jim Hendry and his staff. Last time I checked, there’s a baseball season going on. Surely their efforts are better spent elsewhere.

Also, as a purely editorial aside, “pennant chasing tested ballplayer” may be the most awkwardly worded phrase ever.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a really dumb idea...

it’s the same mistake the Cubs have repeatedly made in the past: signing a well-past-his-prime former star in hopes of adequacy. Hopefully the organization has made a change for the better and will stop making this knee-jerk mistake.

Edmonds hits less than Pie. He defends less than Pie. He hits for no more power than Pie. If your goal is to upgrade on Pie, then perhaps you should look for a player who is actually an UPGRADE over Pie. That’s even ignoring the debate over whether Pie in the second half of this year will be better than Pie in the first half.

If we were getting Edmonds from 2000-2004 the answer would be an unequivocal yes. But there’s a reason he was cut: he’s not remotely good anymore. His OPS+ has dropped more than 20 points in each of the last four years. He was a bad player last year, and now he’s just an awful player.

by SouthernCub on May 12, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What can it possibly hurt? - Part II

It would hurt us, plenty. If the Cubs bring in Edmonds then that would [in your mind] vindicate and validate your thought-process, and most-likely motivate you to post more and more. I’m not sure BCB could survive that… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 12, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What can it possibly hurt?

Our post season chances.

Waste of time.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 12, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Please No!

He was released by the worst team in the major leagues. That should say something!

by John Q Freejazz on May 12, 2008 10:54 AM CDT   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 11:35 AM CDT   0 recs

This might be

my favorite picture ever.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 11:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ba-bum, tssssss

Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.

by MDBNIU on May 12, 2008 11:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Isnt it

ba-dum…...............?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no,

bum is what Blue-Mike is talking out of.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 12, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember Gary Gaetti

He was all but washed up when he came to the Cubs. The Cubs caught lighting in a bottle that year. Having said that, I personally would also pass on Edmonds.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on May 12, 2008 11:46 AM CDT   0 recs

Yeah...but after those last 37 games in 98...

he turned out to be more of a “fart in a jar”.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh...looks like I'll be postponing lunch for another hour or so.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 12, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

he hit 1-11 in the playoffs that year and .204 in ‘99.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gaettga01.shtml

by walsh2317 on May 12, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I recall

as well with his play many were calling for him to be signed again. At that time I thought, NO DON’T. Well they did and that did not turn out so well. I like to refer to it as a fart in a bag.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on May 12, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

as I read that phrase "fart in a jar", I was thinking to myself, I hope SWL doesn't see that.

Then I look again, and I see that SWL was the poster. Crack me up…

Thanks for text only this time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 12, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs