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San Diego Padres at Chicago Cubs, May 12, 2008 7:05 PM CDT



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San Diego Padres
@ Chicago Cubs

Monday, May 12, 2008, 7:05 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Randy Wolf vs Carlos Zambrano

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 55.

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We are six weeks into the 2008 season. Raise your hand if, on March 31, you knew all of the following teams would be in the following spots on May 12:
  • The Florida Marlins would be in first place with the best record in the NL
  • The Cincinnati Reds would be in last place with the second-worst record in the NL
  • The Tampa Bay Rays would be 1.5 games behind the Red Sox, in second place in the AL East, five games over .500 for the first time in franchise history
  • The Oakland A's would be in first place with the second-best record in the AL
  • The Detroit Tigers would be in last place, six games under .500
  • And the San Diego Padres would have the worst record in baseball and be nine games out of first place.

That last may be the most perplexing of all the above bullet points. The Padres have had four straight winning seasons, made the playoffs in 2005 and 2006 and missed last year in a tiebreaker game (and Michael Barrett is still waiting for Matt Holliday to touch the plate). What happened to this team? (And no, I didn't see any hands raised, including my own.)

Whatever it is, please don't wake them up till Friday.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
C. Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Randy Wolf
R. Wolf
Padres
5-1 W-L 2-2
1.80 ERA 4.14
38 SO 38
14 BB 15
3 HR 2
vs. SD -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Zambrano 5-1 8 8 0 0 0 0 55.0 47 11 11 3 14 38 1.80 1.11


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Randy Wolf 2-2 7 7 0 0 0 0 41.1 37 19 19 2 15 38 4.14 1.26

Randy Wolf is only 2-5, 4.35 lifetime vs. the Cubs, but he has handled the current club's hitters pretty well. In 100 career AB among hitters currently on the Cubs roster, only Aramis Ramirez has homered off Wolf and they are a combined .190/.239/.270 in those 100 AB. Time to turn that around tonight. Wolf faced the Cubs as a Dodger last year on May 27 and threw six shutout innings in a game the Dodgers eventually won in 11. Before that he hadn't faced the Cubs since 2004.

Z, as I wrote yesterday, has been solid all year long, and is 4-1, 1.94 ERA in seven lifetime starts against the Padres -- that is his best ERA against any NL team. As good as Wolf has been vs. Cub hitters, Z is even better against the current SD roster. Hitters on San Diego's active roster are 4-for-47 (2 doubles, both by Brian Giles), with 17 strikeouts.

Here's what happens when I write that kind of stuff, and then say, "It's going to be a coolish, no-wind evening, a pitcher's night." When I say that, that's when we have a 10-9 game. As long as the Cubs win, that works for me.

Note of interest: former Dodgers GM Paul DePodesta, who is now working as a "special assistant" in the Padres front office, has just started a blog. Hat tip for the link to our SBN Padres site Gaslamp Ball. Careful if you go over there -- some of our best posters have been banned at GSB.

Today's game is on cable in Chicago and over the air (what a novel concept!) in San Diego. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment thread will post at 8:30 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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SUCKERS.

For all those people that said we missed out on Webb and Owings IMO the DBACKS missed out on our boy Z.

WOLF—-LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's true

but the issue wasn’t whether or not the Cubs are a good team—the question was whether the D-Backs were a good team. The D-Backs look a lot better when Webb pitches.

I think the D-Backs are a pretty good team. Probably the second best team in the NL. I think the Cubs are better—and we showed it by sweeping them. If Zambrano had pitched, we’d have looked better too.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense, no offense

did I mention no offense?

The bulpen has failed. However, Hoffman hasn’t blown a save for a few weeks. (That’s because he has had few, if any chances.)

This is a station-to-station team. No speed. Nada. Zip. Can’t hit for power (but will have a better chance on the road, then @ Petco—especially w/ Giles.

Maddux has been acceptable. No run support. Peavy - very, very good. But one mistake, and this team cannot overcome it 3 of 4 is essential. However, in today’s paper - THEY were hoping for 3 of 4.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They were hoping to only lose 3 of 4

or they were hoping to win 3 of 4?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux "acceptable" ??

But for the game he threw himself on the grenade and gave up 9 runs to the D’baclks
his ERA would be well under 3.
Did I MENTION no offense. It is a joke. Maddux for instance gave up 7 runs in the
three games he pitched after AZ and had not a single win. Also the vaunted BP has
been erratic. However never underestimate them. Their starting pitching is probably
the best 1-4 in the majors but 5 is a major problem and since 1-4 get no run support
they get few wins.
How desperate is this team. Maddux was used to PINCH RUN a few weeks back.
Enough said .

by Doggie Stalker on May 12, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummmm

Marquis has pinch run, or haven’t you noticed?
Maddux is notoriously bad against AZ—with any team he’s pitched with. Look it up.

Maddux took his lumps in the game you mention—but he was left in, as their bullpen was taxed.
He gave the Pads innings they needed.

I’m not a big Maddux guy anymore, but overall—he’s pitched much better than I expected. He’d help a contender.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's Chris Young look?

And… will there be a beaning in this series, after the Young-Lee fiasco last year at Wrigley? (I believe Z took a no-no into the 8th that day) Correct me if I’m wrong. and we lost late 1-0. Heck of a pitching duel.

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wolf started out hot,

but he’s been teed up in 2 of his last 3 starts, and lost the one in between despite giving up just 2 ER. Here’s hoping for an offensive outburst tonight. SD scares me a bit though. Thy kind of seem to have that “wounded animal” look about them. The Cubs better take care not to take this team too lightly.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Jody Gerut

the starting CF for the Fathers now?

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he

is splitting time with someone. Not sure who….maybe SDSmoothJazzMan can clue us in.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gerut

is splitting time with half their farm system.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I kind of figured that from checking the game logs. Their outfield is a big hunk of bad baseball.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Justin Huber

is the most likely to split time with Gerut

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't take them lightly either

sometime, they have to display SOME offense. However, one NL scout has described the Pads as the ‘least athletic team in the league.”

Gerut, is indeed—in CF

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh...memories

of his great Cub career come flowing back to me.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the White Sox

were the least athletic team…..well a close second I guess

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even the White Sox

have guys like Cabrera, Ozuna, and Alexei Ramirez….check the Padres roster. There’s not a lot of speed there….

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THEY were hoping to

take 3 of 4 from the Cubs. They’ve given up on Hairston.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see a split,

but 3 of 4….not bloody likely.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which shows

how bad they are. They should be “hoping” to sweep us. They can’t even dream of that, so they’re just “hoping” to win the series.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but I remember when they made a run

at Dome. thank god we were able to outspend them for him.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why we get banned at GSB i guess

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wouldn't have helped much.

and soured him completely on MLB ball.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 12, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston is splitting time in LF

w/Paul MacAnulty. But he’s out of CF.

Their bid for Dome was never REALLY serious. It’s the old “big bad teams with plenty of money beat us.”

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am surprised at this

I though Kevin Towers was serious on getting him. Also letting Cameron get away was a mistake, 25 game suspension notwithstanding.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

on Cameron. Dumb! Cheap!

by The E-Man on May 12, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we could've added Cameron to platoon in CF. Man... he loves hittin at Wrigely.

But… can’t complain about Reed Johnson.

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not surprised by the Reds

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look back at their $$$$

record. They haven’t signed a legit free agent Kevin Brown. (position player, that is.)
Maddux came cheaply.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That...

is the most embarrassing thing about the Padres franchise. I vividly recall Lucchino and Moores lamenting over and over and over and over in the local press about Quallcomm/JackMurphy “not being a financially viable ballpark”. They get their sweetheart deal, along with the cash-cow land around the park, and they’ve put NOTHING from that windfall back into the team. And the sad part is, the Padre’s fans just keep shelling out the $ to watch them. The last couple years of success have been more a product of the West sucking than San Diego having a legit playoff team…see their record in playoff games the last few years.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LSA!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and look at the Chargers situation

That will not end well either. The city of San Diego has a lot of issues

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Petco

is an enjoyable place to watch a game. (Might it be Wrigleyesque in the future?) People like going there. However, attendence will fall is the team stays in last.

No windfall profits yet—those buildings you see around Petco are barely occupied. The condos are less than 50% sold. Much of the office space is still empty

I believe the football situation will solve itself - in Chula Vista, eventually. The ‘new stadium’ proposed for LA has a better chance than any of the previous proposals - but the developer (I”m forgetting his name ) wants a piece of any team. The Spanos family WILL NOT stand for that. A football stadium will eventually happen in this county—but it’s SO hard in California to do ANYTHING.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petco

Great time to be selling office space in California, too.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher is taking Lieber’s spot in the rotation.. supposedly/hopefully depending on your perspective. So who will be facing Peavy?

by Schizo on May 12, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marquis or Lilly

unless Rich Hill comes up in the next day or so…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, on the Ex-Cub front...

Will Oh-MAN! is up to 3.07ERA, with 15 hits in just about 15 innings…1 HR and 1.51 WHIP.

I did not hide my contempt for this joker last year, and I’m curious where his stats will end up in ‘08. Hopefully, Ascanio will provide up some value when Lou burns out Marmol’s arm due to overuse!

by The E-Man on May 12, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious with burning out marmols arm?

I see we have another pitching coach or perhaps Dr. James Andrews has graced us with his presence on this board. It would have been fitting years ago when he made quite a pretty penny of prior n woody.

by Mikey06 on May 12, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See it's

smarmy little comments like this one that get you in trouble with the posters in here.

by sue369 on May 12, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cameron was pissed

at the Pads inattention to him. He signed with the Brew Crew for just a tad more that what the Pads offered—way, way late.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Which is where it should be.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team has drafted badly

and has hung their hat at finding inexpensive talent. That works for a while, but eventually you sign Jim Edmonds. And you fail.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can you say "Matt Bush"

They could have had Stephen Drew or Jered Weaver, who were considered the top two talents in that draft. But they got cheapassed and drafted Bush because he’d sign cheap. (To be fair, everyone thought Bush had first round talent. Just 12-18th pick talent, not #1 overall talent.)

Spending that money on Drew or Weaver would have been a lot smarter than throwing a lesser amount away on Bush. And now they’re throwing away money on Jim Edmonds that could have been going to Stephen Drew.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zambrano will slice thru San Diego like a Cusinart

San Diego is REAL, REAL bad. That’s what they get for assembling the sabermetrecian “brain trust” of Sandy Alderson, Paul DePodesta and Grady Fuson to interfere with Kevin Towers.

Hey Sandy, how is that Mark Prior thing workin’ out for ya?? Ha-haa.

Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.

by MDBNIU on May 12, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that is one signing they should not have made.

maybe he is cursed??

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does sabremetrics

have to do with the fact that SD has a bad baseball team?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it has nothing to do with it.

by Canseco's Roid Party on May 12, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

It was sort of a rhetorical question, but AI half wanted to see what sophistry MDBNIU could weave to justify that statement.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Al,

But I wanted to see that. No idea why I typed Al.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's a subliminal

ad Al has running through BCB…

by Emelie on May 12, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be it.

I now have my tinfoil hat on top prevent an further subliminal manipulation. ;-)

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jesus

srsly, just ban him (Al) or ignore him. Reading twenty posts after he posts once is reallyl annoying. Can we talk about baseball?

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 12, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be

Al’s sock puppet.

by DGU on May 12, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

No, no, just an unfortunate slip of the finger.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Sox drink....

....from the fountain of Bill James, as you so put it in the other thread. The weird disdain for stats and certain players is boring.

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on May 12, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

question?

I am going to the game Sunday (1:20)

what time would the bleachers open? and when would be a good time to get there to get front row seats

by Rezze21 on May 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 hours prior to the game they open

Get there at aroun 945 or 10 to tell you the truth, when the gates open RUN.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i got there at 10:45-11

would I be ok? whats the latest I could get there to get a good seat? every seat is decent right? except under the scoreboard

by Rezze21 on May 12, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get there at 11 and I guarantee

you will get a great seat. Honestly I hate sitting in the front row of the bleachers because the wall is rather tall and tough to see over. Front 3 rows near the well in left is where I would recommend.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His lil' elbow

still another owie! Another setback this weekend, as has already been posted here. He’ll shut it down for a bit. He’s truly the unicorn, here. You have heard of him—you never see him.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very Surprised About Rays

I am glad to see Tampa doing this well. This team is going to fade, however. If the Rays can somehow finish with at least 75 wins, they are going to be the greatest team in franchise history. That sure is condemning with faint praise. Before this season, the Rays had gone through the worst 10 year period of any franchise since divisional play began.

by memphiscub on May 12, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll fade

but I bet they win around 81 games, give or take three or four games.

I like the “Rejected T-Shirt” idea ESPN.com had for the Rays. It just said “Tampa Bay Rays—Laugh while you still can”

If they continue to run the team smartly (which they’ve done since getting rid of Namoli) they’re going to win the AL East sometime in the next five seasons. Next year wouldn’t be impossible. They’re just in the wrong division.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the high draft picks

are starting to pay dividends. And they have another one this year. They have drafted very well. The question will be how many can they keep in a few years?

I would not be surprised if they finish with 75 wins. That division isn’t quite as strong as it has been. Toronto has fallen off. Baltimore is still Baltimore. Even the Yankees won’t take nearly every game from the Rays as they have doe in past years.

by rlpete on May 12, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could pull a Marlins

Invest in one or two good free agents and a couple bench veterans and make a run based on excellent pitching.

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 12, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may be real real bad

but they always play the Cubs well—they always do. So don’t count your chickens yet, bud.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I believe they did this before, was it in the early 80’s or thereabout? I always forget.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 12, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Towers tells sports radio

“bringing in Jody Gerut gives us a bit more payroll.”

The league minimum give you MORE payroll? Whatta maroon.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow,

lol your post is so funny. Your a moron. You called somebody a maroon, like the color. lol, talk about irony…

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...

by LPLancer23 on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously

your not a golfer…...

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor a Looney Tunes fan, apparently

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor a U of C student or alum

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 12, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See Bugs Bunny post...

be careful when discussing irony and name-calling.

Is our readership so young that they don’t recognize a classic cartoon quote? Is Looney Tunes that outdated now? I’m not even 30 and I got it.

by SouthernCub on May 12, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

“Moron”? Maroon is a color, iirc.

by The E-Man on May 12, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's an old Bugs Bunny malapropism.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malapropism

I am learn’ed things on this site too!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy, do I feel old

But I guess it’s to be expected, Elmer.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See Bugs Bunny

Wow this is way too much time

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it does though.

Because they’re still paying for Edmonds.

by Kornchex on May 12, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs drop to #9

In ESPN’s power rankings….

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Link

POWER RANKINGS

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was before the sweep

That was, however, posted before the Cubbies swept #2 ranked Arizona.

by John Q Freejazz on May 12, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good point

Missed that, thanks

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only nerds that love their momma's cookin'

and like Star Trek: Deep Space Nine pay attention to ESPN’s Power Rankings.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then

color me a trecky! No seriously, find me a Star Trek coloring book…..

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done.

You’re Welcome, Number One.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

um, a porcupine on stilts?

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geeze..sorry...that one took a sec..

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guy....

Pure comedy. Well done good sir.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ba-bum...tssss!

Just to beat him to the puch.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA

brilliant.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rofl

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 12, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough....

ESPN lost all credibility with me years ago…..For one, only the east coast matters and, for another, they spend too much time being politically correct and trying to be the next great National Enquirer…..

by crazymountain on May 12, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you just use..

the word “great” with the term “National Enquirer”?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sisko Was Cool

You got to like a Star Trek character interested in baseball.

by memphiscub on May 12, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im pumped,

Z’s gonna toss a no no, Im gonna see it from 129, row 5. anyone else goin?

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...

by LPLancer23 on May 12, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, they've banned some of our BEST posters?

I didn’t even know we had any type of value to the posters here.

DId we at least get a PTBNL? Dang it, that GM for GSB knows how to work the deals.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Al meant

SBNation posters, not just BCB posters…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strangely enough, I'm not banned from Gaslamp

They don’t like me, but I’m not banned. Kudos to them. I won’t post any more—but I’ve never personally tried to insult them. They can’t handle the truth. However, the White Sox and Angels bloggers have banned for no apparent reason. And, in both cases when i asked why, they sent me insulting E-Mails.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels are my AL team

but I won’t post over at Halo’s Heaven. I think the Rev is mentally unstable—and I’m only slightly kidding.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on May 12, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope the Cubs

do not have a let down with this team, need to focus. Pad’s are bad, but on any given day…
ESPN has the Twins/Red Sox back to back nights, go figure

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on May 12, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN is showing the Red Sox?? What a surprise......

I bet ESPN actually thinks the AL plays baseball also…..

by crazymountain on May 12, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excuse my quick posts

...downtime at work. Have to get back, tho…

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Since were facing

Maddux at some point IIRC. I just read a ridiculous stat on him.

In 1997 Maddux walked 20 batters in 230 innings of work. Thats nasty!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 12, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What can you say for a guy

that could hit a dot on a wall from the mound. PLUS, it didnt hurt that the umpires would give him 2-3 inches on the corner and he kept hitting it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 12, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chase Headley

Saw him up close yesterday in Des Moines as Portland took on the I-Cubs. He didn’t do anything particularly impressive, but he’s got an enormous whack at the ball.

Also, Rich Hill made me wonder why the hell he is in AAA. He looked great.

Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.

by IowaCubs- on May 12, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't Hill always look good in AAA?

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tampa Bay and Oakland are the real deal

Not saying either team will keep up this pace. Duh. But I’ll say this. Tampa Bay is on the cusp of being one of the better teams in the tough American League for a long time. Anybody would drool having a cadre of young hitters like Crawford, Upton, Longoria, Navarro. Most importantly, the young pitching is finally rounding into shape for them. Lots of big power arms….Shields, Kazmir, Sonnanstine, Garza…with more on the way.

Oakland has the best young pitching staff in baseball that nobody talks about. And now they get back Rich Harden who has the stuff to be the best of all. Name that people need to start paying attention to??? Daric Barton. Young man is going to win a few batting titles in this game.

Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.

by MDBNIU on May 12, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your forgetting the fact that...

eventually all these players are going to have to be resigned to actual contracts. These contracts are going to be given to them by teams that want to pay them more money than they are currently making. 90 percent of these guys, if they continue to excel at baseball, are not going to be with their current team when they sign their next contract.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct... but Tampa is building a new ballpark

That could aid them in re-signing some of these guys

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we

see how the ‘new ballpark’ is aiding the Bucs and Reds these days…..and for that matter, the Padres. That’s a reason Pads fans are a bit upset—they expected the ‘new revenue’ streams to keep the team competitive EVERY year. This current last-place stance is very unexpected.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rays did just sign the rookie Longoria to a 9 year deal

That’s a pretty aggressive move. I imagine they’ll try to replicate these kind of deals, and long guys in early.

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rays arn't building a new ballpark

The idea is in the works, but it isn’t building yet. If you go to the game @ the Trop they ask you sign a petition to build the new park. Lot of politics involved. They can’t even fill up the Trop however so don’t know how they going to support a new stadium.

by GoCubbies34 on May 12, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardens first start back:

3.2 IP, 5 ER, 4BB, 5K. He’ll be back on the DL in two weeks.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I didn’t play baseball in college, so maybe I’m just blinded by science.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You only believe in science?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't look at me! I'm hideous!

And I don’t believe only in science….

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will keep Headley

down in Portland TFN. They overhype their prospects (as do the Cubs) and they don’t want the fans to think ‘one guy’ can save the team. That could screw with the kids’s head.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 12, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fish-in-a-barrel...

You said…

Daric Barton. Young man is going to win a few batting titles in this game

Are you basing that on only 207 ML AB’s? Weird.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you = MBDNIU

I meant to respond to his post above.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trading partners.....Padres.....Reds.....Tigers.....Yankees

Padres are first on the block as I suspect that Greg Maddux is available by the end of May of the Spanish Missionaries stay in their position on the floor of the NL West.

Send them Eric Patterson and possibly an A+ prospect and Greg can return to Chicago. My other guess is that Jockerty is going to break up Dusty’s team real quick and look to do the same formula he did in St Louis.

Tigers either must quickly reclaim their expectation or there will be some off loaded like Sheffield, Rogers, Maggio and even I-Rod.

Yankees could also be an interesting partner as they still need a 5th starter bad.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on May 12, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

If the Cubs only had 3 or 4 starters, it would be great to get Maddux again. But at last count they already have 8 starters.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 12, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you have not seen this video of Zambrano beaning people...

it is outstanding! It’s at the Gaslamp Ball site. I have no idea how or when Z did this… but it is most excellent.

I haz show: http://hotbeans.wordpress.com

by digitalbenjamin on May 12, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not sure who we’d want off these teams though…..
maddux would obviously be sweet, but otherwise? reds pretty much only have good players at the same spots we do, and generally worse ones. yanks…betemit? don’t know about that. tigers? well sheffield=no, maggs? not gonna happen and doesn’t fit. rogers is like 87, and we can so happily say for the first time in….ever, that we have no need to trade for I-Rod as we have a superior C. GEOVANY SOTO.

by Canseco's Roid Party on May 12, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone have early lineups?

When does Bruce get here?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

Have we banned Cubs fans? I’m not sure that we have. Maybe a couple of deleted comments and some trash talky posts. We even had a pretty good relationship with Smooth Jazz Man once upon a time. I’m sure somebody will prove me wrong though.

Here’s a little something just to show that we’re friendly types: Dan Migala, Cubs fan and baseball marketer extraordinaire, has a book coming out tomorrow called Dugout Wisdom. Wisdom and life advice from living Hall of Famers and baseball greats. Plenty of Cubbies included. His blog should be live starting tomorrow as well. I’ll see about getting Al a copy.

by Dex on May 12, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welsome Dex...

I peruse Gaslamp Ball pretty regularly, but hardly ever post. You do a good job with the content. Thanks for stopping by!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welsome is ancient Inca for Welcome.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually knew that

I’m fluent in ancient Incan.

Sank thoo fov readsking!

by Dex on May 12, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yore Weckum.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Al was referring to SBNation posters,

not Cub fans or even just denizens of this blog. I swing by your place from time to time and it’s always been a good time. I don’t comment, and, honestly, I’d have nothing to really add!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wheres...

the lineups

Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!

by cubsluver22 on May 12, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not up yet.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't expect...

san diego to be so bad and Florida to be in fist place. The biggest shocker so far though is the Detroit Tigers playing so poorly. Not surprised about the Reds though. They are pretty bad and that’s what I expected from them. Good luck to Carlos tonight.

by columbusOHcubsfan on May 12, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

actually

the reds have votto,griffey,dunn,phillips, bako who has been good,freel is a ideal platoon player. they have a good closer. they have a great starting staff. maybe one of the best 1-2 punches in the NL with harang and volquez. they also have arroyo and cueto who are streaky but quality pitchers. the reds shouldnt be this bad.

Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!

by cubsluver22 on May 12, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineups

Padres
Gerut, CF
Iguchi, 2B
Giles, RF
Gonzalez, 1B
Kouzmanoff, 3B
Greene, SS
Hairston, LF
Bard, C
Wolf, P

Cubs
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
Soto, C
DeRosa, 2B
Johnson, CF
Zambrano, P

by Bruce Miles on May 12, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, why no Cedeno?

Hell, if for no other reason that to give poor Ryan a day off.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot's playing awesome

He has the highest BA in all of the starters. Why the hell would you want anyone else to start?

If anything, why is DeRosa starting at 2B besides Cedeno? I’d give you that

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either/Or

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

but derosa has been playing much better

Ronny is a good off the bench weapon

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 12, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure about that

his line for the last 7 days: .200/.294/.267

And he’s not that much of a defensive upgrade than Cedeno, if at all.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Believe me, I’d rather see Theriot at 2 and Ronny at SS. DeRo looked like he had been hitting with a little authority on Sat/Sun.

Still, his swing is garbage. He has that nasty hitch and uppercut swing and whiffs a lot as a result.

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 12, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Cedeno at SS and Theriot 2B too.

Hopefully Piniella puts that into a starting lineup one of these days.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This would be ideal

at least to give Derosa a few days rest.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa hasn't been hitting well in Late and Close situations

Gotta turn that around.

But, he’s driven in 20 runs already. That projects to 91 on the season. Wow.

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Bruce...

...let’s go Cubbies – Keep the good vibe rollin’

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi

by ilovepie on May 12, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very rare, like Haley's Comet...

..it’s a Jody Gerut leading-off sighting!

That is seriously one ugly lineup the Friars are putting out there. I’m pretty sure Zambrano will post better season numbers (in 1/5 the number of games) than many of those guys….

by Chadnudj on May 12, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is soto ever gonna get a day off?

i’m not accustomed to Cs playing every day. are his knees going to survive the season?

game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)

by joeschmitt on May 12, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude...he doesn't need a day off! He's the only catcher we need!

Geovany Solo!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah, you were just WAITING for that weren't you?

Soto’s a pretty big dude, as well. Have you seen that guy’s legs? They’re the size of kegs.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santoswoodenlegs does not sleep...

He waits.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard you rarely sleep, about

one hour a day. I heard you’re a great man. I hear, when the rest of us are sleeping, you have a part-time job as a projectionist.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why yes,

yes I have seen his legs. :D

by sue369 on May 12, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a note about the improbale thoughts: the Devil Rays

I was in Tampa during spring training… attending some other games (Blue Jays), and while listening to local sports radio, you can tell there was great optimism for the Rays. They have been collecting talent for a while now, and during ST, they showed they mean business while playing the Yanks… as they responded to some bush league play by the Yanks in ST.

They’ve got loads of talent over there… and plans for a beautiful new ballpark.

Cubs 2008 (22-15)
Home (14-6) | Road (8-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 11, 2008

by SackMan on May 12, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Amen, man...

...being from SW Florida, trust me – once the Rays get that new stadium and start playing competitively (the latter of which they’re already doing), you’re going to see a QUICK end to low attendance at Rays games. For example, it used to be that the Bucs’ fans were routinely outnumbered at their own stadium, but once Dungy turned them around (Gruden should be forced to give that ring to Dungy), and moved from the Big Sombrero to the pirate ship, they’re now PHENOMENALLY popular and have a very rabid fan base. Remember – a lot of that area are transplanted mid-westerners, who LOVE their sports.

The same will happen to the Rays…mark my words. And potentially very soon – the Yankees/Red Sox better watch out, and I’m not even kidding. The Rays may never compete in pure payroll sense, but they will eventually jump up into the upper tiers….

by Chadnudj on May 12, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't they get into a scuffle during ST with the Yankees?

Or am I talking nonsense?

Cornelius is playing good with them, albeit with only 19 AB’s (line:.368/.429/.737). Start Floyd! Pena Sucks!!

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, they got into it with the Yankees.

The Yankees pulled some bush league sh#t and the Rays pulled their punk card. Good times. Video of the incident here.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 MINUTES!!!!! GAH!!!

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll give eveyone 3 guesses...

which historical moment the gamethread over at Gaslamp Ball mentions…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1984?

....I hope not. That would be the offical sign of a last place team

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 12, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nailed it on the first guess...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wish that Pie would get some playing time

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am wondering if...

Al should start posting a pregame thread, and than another right at game time and then the teleport thread half way through the game. I love the fact that there are so many of us Cubs fans.

Side note I simultaneously love and hate that the Cubs are -194 tonight.

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Adios, folks.

I’ve cracked a six of talls and a few friends are inbound. Hope it stays civil in here. Here’s to Carlos pitching the Cubs to their fourth in a row! Cheers!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 12, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

you can trust me to keep it “civil”

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And just what do you mean by "civil" buddy?!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh I think you know what I mean

I’ll dress up as Robert E Lee and you as US Grant and it will be a real party!

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy yourself my comrad!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gerut....

...the incredible .118 BA leadoff man

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now...

.111 Good play, DLee!

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on May 12, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno

If Lou refuses to play him, why don`t we trade him? Last year, he couldn`t hit. He has proven himself this year to the chagrin of Lou and Hendry. He deserves better. Dusty brought him up way too early because Hendry didn`t do his job. He`s still very young.He could start for many teams

by muffman on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Z

It’s Big Z time!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z with 20 starts....

Someone jacked that up

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

An ut oh

An unfortunate boo boo by the graphics people….

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Z in the dugout with his bill flipped up like Reed post catch...

...looked like a good vibe in the dugout!

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Audio

is anyone else’s audio not working?

Aramis Ramirez- NL MVP
Kosuke Fukudome- NL ROY
Carlos Marmol- Rolaids Relief Man

by sheamcmurray on May 12, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

iguchi grounds out

2 up, 2 down
make that 3 up 3 down

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Iguchi

I still don’t understand why the White Sox didn’t resign Iguchi. Isn’t he better than the unfortunate Uribi?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

He was very good for them.

by wrigleyrocker12 on May 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

woah, looked the other way and apparently I missed an entire 1/2 inning!

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z is on....

for now.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what a steal in fantasy!

a guy wanted Nick Markakis from me so he offered Zambrano and Rios for him, and its turned out great!

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Homework..

You can tell when someone has no clue about baseball….

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Joe Morgan?

by muffman on May 12, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem with my team is that it has no power

I have great pitching, but my offense is dreadful. I basically had to build my team through FA and trades because the guy who started the league didn’t give us any warning for the draft and I had a pretty sucky team

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/under on number of BCBers complaining

and condemning Soriano is a horrible player if he goes 1-4 with 2 SO’s?

I’m saying 8, over

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball is not a fair game...

Soriano made an out, Theriot did not…

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok..I'll complain...

but only if he also misplays a flyball and throws out a runner.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano's ball was hit much...

harder than Theriot’s….

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by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So was Barrett's

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Barrett?

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by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barrett...

Michael….see injury report as a Cub.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH, maybe you mean...

...Gerut?

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by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darn...

Nice catch by Giles

by wrigleyrocker12 on May 12, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No audio on CSN

Is anyone else experiencing this, or is it just my crappy cable company? I’ll probably turn on the radio, but the five second delay between the radio and TV is very annoying.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CSN audio

I was afraid it might be a local problem since nobody else had mentioned it. Thanks!

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have RCN...

...and my audio is fine….

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be happy to watch the game

I live in Virginia and have Dish Network. Every game that is not Washington or Baltimore is blacked out.

by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robbery!

Call the CPD! Soriano has been robbed!

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by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another theriot hit

by CubsBall2202 on May 12, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what a sucky hit.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares...

as long as its a hit.

by wrigleyrocker12 on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going out on a limb

and guess Santos was joking.

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

but that hit was like an out. Only he got on base, and didn’t get out. It sucked, just like him.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

He’s being sarcastic. Kind of like a running joke in here.

by sue369 on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Th Eriot with a single.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, looks beautiful at Wrigley right now.

Sun setting in perfect time for the game.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

D-Lee

base hit, and RBI!

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well that's pretty swell

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeeze...

Lee is killing us with these stupid inning extending RBI doubles.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he'll probalby just break his wrist anyway

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 12, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally

I get to watch a Cubs game live tonight….
1-2-3 to start for Z….and Cubbies already up 1-0….
That’ll work!

"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463

by Bluelou on May 12, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

will a walk do?

"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463

by Bluelou on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome with another walk

that gets soooo boring….

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dusty would absolutely go crazy with him playing...

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see Dusty getting popped again

for out of order batting yesterday?

HAHAHA!

"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463

by Bluelou on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting "popped"? What do you mean?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's like a Guess Hitting Hack...

only he doesn’t guess or hack…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fukodome's cloggin up the bases!

Dusty would be ticked!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Geo!

Put another clogger on the bases!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We call him Geo "the plumber" Soto...

he unclogs bases.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA! Ha!

LOVE that!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go D-Lee!

Pads can’t throw anyone out!

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by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well a steal

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases loaded

Although, i would have pitched around Geo in that spot too.

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bases juiced for DeeRow

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shocking!

The Cubns have the bases loaded for the thousandth time this season!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry my typing stinks

I meant Cubs

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

It was difficult to interpret that sentence..

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 12, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are officially required to post this every time we have 'em juiced.

It's gotta be the shoes, folks, it's gotta be the shoes...

by Schwa on May 12, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dero

Good Job! 3 lob!

by muffman on May 12, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that bat doesnt

break, we might have had 3 more runs there.

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If

Biggest word in the english language!

by muffman on May 12, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know....

but its so fun to dream! =)

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poop

Wonder if Cedeno would have gotten a hit there?

by sue369 on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a

legitimate question.

by sue369 on May 12, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I didn’t mean pick a fight with me, just with other people who feel strongly one way or the other.

by Morg98 on May 12, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poop

No doubt about it! He faced better pitching in the Venezulean winter league!

by muffman on May 12, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that seemed close to a HR on gameday? yes? no?

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's count our blessings...

Cubs lead 1-0 with Big Z pitching….

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

word.

"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463

by Bluelou on May 12, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adrian "I am the only good Padres Hitter" Gonzalez up to bat

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by Chanman25 on May 12, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always been partial to Khailil Green....

I’m a sucker for all that hair….

Hey, it's a new century!

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