Is That A Banana In The Clubhouse, Or Are You Just Happy To See Me?
When, in the third inning last night, Carlos Zambrano stalked around the mound briefly, causing trainer Mark O'Neal and Lou Piniella to run out and check him out, we figured it might have been another cramping episode and that they'd have to send him back to the clubhouse for a banana break.
Turned out to be something much more prosaic, as revealed in the postgame news conference: in his last start in Cincinnati, Z had scraped his arm diving back into first base after his fifth-inning single, and the scab had come off. That, plus the rather biting cold last night, caused Z to come back for the next inning wearing long sleeves.
That solved the problem, though Mike thinks he might just need more bananas (along with some thoughts about how D-Lee and Dome might approach a Cub fan's loyalty test):

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It was that kind of night, as the Cubs had yet another laugher of a win, 12-3 over the hapless Padres, and yet another amazing thing about this team, first revealed by Len Kasper on the telecast (and repeated by Cory Provus on the postgame radio show, if you're wondering where I heard this): the Cubs have now had thirteen different innings in which they've scored five or more runs.
We're simply not used to this kind of thing. They're leading the major leagues in runs scored with 223 -- by a considerable margin over the Red Sox, second with 209. The nine walks drawn last night give them 183 for the season. That's almost half of what they drew in 2006, Dusty Baker's last season, 395 -- in fewer than one-quarter the number of games. I'll make sure to make note here when they pass the '06 team -- it may be before the end of June. And if you're wondering: the club record for walks in a season is 650, set in 1975 (yeah, I was surprised to find that out too, as that team finished badly after a hot start; no one on that team walked 100 or more times, though six walked 60 or more). Right now the average of 4.8 walks per game would shatter that record; they are on pace for 780. The 5.86 runs per game average would mean 950 runs over a full season.
Ain't this fun?
The Cubs came from behind again last night; Z just couldn't keep the Padres bats totally silent, and they went into the bottom of the fifth with a 2-1 lead. Z led off with a double off the wall that looked, at first, as if it might be his 2nd HR of the year. No matter, Alfonso Soriano followed with his fourth HR of the season and after that... well, everyone hit. Or walked. The only one of the starting nine who didn't get a hit last night was Kosuke Fukudome. But he had three walks, scored twice, and got an RBI when he walked with the bases loaded. Ryan Theriot had three hits; Derrek Lee two (and a stolen base, which, like Aramis Ramirez' on Sunday, looked like it came off a missed sign). Ramirez had an RBI single, a walk, and scored twice. And after Kevin Kouzmanoff couldn't beat Aramis Ramirez to 3B, making Ramirez safe and giving Mark DeRosa a hit, Kouzmanoff threw the ball in the general direction of the corner of Addison & Sheffield, allowing three runs to score. Padres manager Bud Black then yanked Kouzmanoff from the game. Yes, I know it wasn't for that reason -- Kouzmanoff had made the last out of the previous inning and was the obvious choice for a double-switch for Black's pitching change -- but it wound up being unintentional humor.
Ain't this fun?
Lou must be having fun, because he sounded exhausted on the radio during the postgame press conference, almost as if he had spent the evening running around the bases himself.
While the Cubs are clicking on all cylinders -- five out of their last six, 15-6 overall at home -- I wanted to comment here about the latest Jim Edmonds rumor. Bruce Miles reports:The Cubs are having serious internal discussions on whether to sign center fielder Jim Edmonds, cut loose by the San Diego Padres.
General manager Jim Hendry could not comment Monday on Edmonds, who must first clear waivers, much as Reed Johnson had to during spring training before the Cubs signed him after Toronto let him go.
Some quarters in the Cubs' front office are taking a "why not?" approach to taking a flyer on Edmonds, all the while wanting to know about his health, whether he can still play and how good a fit he will be in the clubhouse.
I'll tell you "why not": he's done. I guess I can't fault management for doing their due diligence, but obviously, he'd be signed to replace Felix Pie on the roster. And why is this? Because Lou clearly doesn't trust Pie, doesn't want to give him a shot, and if you look at Pie's record so far in the major leagues, the answer to the question "Can Pie hit major league pitching?" is, "We don't know yet!"
Pie has played 117 major league games over a season and a quarter. The longest stretch of games he has started and finished during that time is nine (last June). This season, his longest such stretch is four games -- the first four of the season.
Now I ask you -- how can ANY hitter get any consistent rhythm going if he doesn't play? How can Pie learn how to face major league pitching and see enough pitches and different pitchers to hit if they won't give him a chance?
He needs to be out there every day at least against RHP. If the Cubs insist on signing a washed-up, injured, 38-year-old centerfielder who was released by a team in desperate need of hitting, at least send Jim Edmonds to Iowa for a week or two first, and let Pie play.
The bottom line is: the Cubs are 23-15, winners of four in a row and five of six, and scoring metric buttloads of runs. Why mess with success? Please, Jim. Don't do it.
Finally, to discuss this screaming Sun-Times headline from today:
... go to blackhawk24's FanPost.
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I understand your reasoning for Pie, Al.
And I agree. If this lineup can put these types of numbers up, just let the kid play everyday against RHP. The worst case scenario is he helps the defense while going hitless. And if he can learn to bunt, maybe the seven spot would be perfect for him for the time being.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 8:17 AM CDT 0 recs
Very enjoyable post!
It’s exciting to see the Cubs have the home field advantage again. It’s been quite a long time.
The best news after the win was Zell rejecting the State’s offer. I was disappointed that our elected Junta would see it as a good thing for the taxpayers to absorb all of the construction costs and risk of cost over runs, $400 million? You can bet it would be twice that once every union received its political slice of the work.
The next best news wasn’t in the post but it was Ozzie’s apparent bitterness over the Sox being no more popular in Chicago than a “Whataburger” franchise. Sox fans everywhere, trying to stay one step ahead of their parole officer, weeping and gnashing of 8-tracks in their Camaros, no one cares about the luckiest team in history, it turns out that Chicagoans have a stronger memory for the winning pick-4 numbers then they do the Sox, LOL!
by DudeVf11 on May 13, 2008 8:20 AM CDT 0 recs
Double negatives was never not one of my better subjects, but...
...that better not have been a slam against “Whataburgers”. Man, if the Cubs were smart, they’d say screw the new triangle building/museum and just put a Whataburger where YumYum used to be.
Of course, MickeyD’s across the street probably wouldn’t be too pleased…
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by ballhawk on
May 13, 2008 12:09 PM CDT
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Edmonds brings...
ZERO value to our team. And to be honest i never thought of him as much of a fielder either. I think he made a gold glove career/highlight career out of making bad jumps look good. He is always very late to make a jump and then dives to make it look like a great play. Just my opinion cuz i know i am going to get crap for saying this considering he has multiple gold gloves.
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by HIGGY on May 13, 2008 8:23 AM CDT 0 recs
I happen to agree with you.
Edmonds has always been a hot dog. His last good offensive season was 2004.
Seriously, he’s done.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:24 AM CDT
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I agree with you
I always felt that it looked like Edmonds would slow down a few steps enroute to a ball in order to make a diving catch.
I know I’m not the only one who feels that way, because I heard Torii Hunter say essentially the same thing on Mac, Jurko, and Harry a few years ago. Mac asked Hunter to rate the top CFs in the game, and when Edmonds wasn’t on the short list, the guys asked why. Hunter, in a roundabout PC way, basically called Edmonds a hot dog, always trying to make the routine plays look like highlight reel plays just to get on SportsCenter. Maybe there was some bad blood between them, but to me it just confirmed something I already suspected.
To me, slowing and diving to get yourself on Web Gems is even worse than getting a bad jump. Recovering from a bad jump indicates that at least he had the ability to make up for his shortcomings. The hot dog accusation would mean he valued his Gold Glove collection and his highlight videos more than he respected his team and the game.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on
May 13, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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Guys, think about what we're discussing here.
We are talking about signing a guy who was released by the Padres for crying out loud. Most games they can’t buy a run and they released him. We don’t need his glove or his bat. I’d hate to see them screw with Pie even more by bringing Edmonds in.
by Kornchex on
May 13, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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Edmonds Can't Replace Pie or Ward
Edmonds can’t platoon with Reed Johnson. Pie is far better than the 2008 version of Edmonds is defensively. For all of Pie’s problems at the plate, I still think he’s better batting than Edmonds is now. The Cubs already have a veteran left-handed pinch hitter with power in Daryle Ward. Ward even has more value than Edmonds. Edmonds needs a trip to the fountain of youth for this potential move to work.
by memphiscub on
May 13, 2008 11:36 AM CDT
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As I said yesterday,
I’d rather see Jason Marquis in CF than Edmonds.
The Cubs don’t need PhD graduates of the Lenny Dykstra College of Web-Gemology. They need guys that will do anything to help the team win.
Just put DeRo (you know, a guy who will genuinely do anything to help the team win) in CF - I’m sure he’s better defensively than Edmonds at this point - and platoon 1DECK and Fontenot at 2B while Felix is in Lou’s doghouse.
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by DeRoMyHero on
May 13, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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hell
put DeRosa in Center, Cedeno at SS and Theriot at 2nd. No need to bring the Mullet into things at all.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on
May 13, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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I think Edmonds has some value, but he's a huge injury risk.
Playing at petco will depress your numbers, so I think he’ll improve offensively at Wrigley. For a guy who is absolutely sucking at hitting the ball, he’s still getting on base relative that awful BA. Pie is acceptable for his youth against RHP but the guy is a total zero against LHP so far, and of course the lack of patience. If the Cubs think Edmonds has value then they must be blind to the injury risk. I think he’ll have better offensive numbers but I think he’s going to be unavailable quite often.
by DudeVf11 on
May 14, 2008 10:44 PM CDT
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Ivy covered bricks
Being made of glass as he is, the first time Edmonds crashed into the bricks in center he’d be out for 2-3 weeks with a bruised pinky.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on May 13, 2008 8:31 AM CDT 0 recs
i have heard
former teammates of Edmonds’ admit that he makes late breaks on balls only to make diving catches of pop-ups that Andruw Jones would have been camped under for a week and a half.
that being said, if he is signed, he better produce quickly. Maddux seems to think he was starting to turn the corner with his stick.
"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." Frank Costello
by kalamazoo_cubs_fan on May 13, 2008 8:33 AM CDT 0 recs
Maddux is wrong, and I hate to say that.
Paul Sullivan’s article points out that since May 1, Edmonds is hitting .278 with a .381 OBA.
That sounds good until you look at it in detail and find out that he’s 5-for-18 with one run scored and no extra-base hits or RBI in that period and a .659 OPS. That’s just about what Pie has done in the identical time frame (5-for-19, one double, .616 OPS).
Again, what’s the point?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
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Edmunds might not be the answer but now neither is Pie
It is even more than Pie’s, just above the Mendoza line base statistics, it is what his ratio’s clearly show and ironically why you are so forgiving to him and were not to ONEDEC when he was up in ‘06. Fully one-third of his at bats are K’s, but worse how they are getting him out. Pitch FB high and he swings, pitch bender’s in the dirt and he swings and misses. His hits are soft, and in those 63 AB’s where 23 resulted in K’s, only 4 walks. He has two extra base hits, a HR and 1-2B. With his speed he is not effecting the game on the base paths and great he has a tremendous glove and arm. BOTTOM LINE for both him and the Cubs he is not ready yet.
Maybe it takes to he is 25 like Ronnie, maybe next year, maybe this August but not now. He is over matched, it is destructive. For he is not recognizing what even to swing at.
As for Edmunds, he is an option to be considered. He has flaws that all point out but he also is not as bad offensively or defensively as you point out, especially as a stop gag when a better option (if needed) comes about.
Edmunds the last three years is a consistent notorious slow starter where since ‘06 he has had precisely this kind of start. Secondly he had a .821 OPS last year, last three .868 OPS lst 3 years against RH pitching where both I would take in CF right now.
So then you talk about fielding. His ZR was around .856 ironically just below Jones who everyone talks about here .863, he is not Pie or Beltran or Rowland but he is not chopped liver either.
So finally the question is whether he will disrupt the locker room. Hard to tell. Locker room disruption is when someone is disrupting the team for individual play and not producing. Edmunds could last for 2-3 weeks if he doesn’t produce or he could last through July until a better option is developed or he could last through the playoffs.
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by Ivy Walls on
May 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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Pie's Ks
There are plenty of hitters who are successful despite a high K rate. One question is how are those Ks coming. The answer (of late) is not nearly as many from swinging at bad balls, but watching called strikes go by. Pie is trying to do what the coaches have told him to do and is letting borderline balls go by. If he was ignoring the coaches and blindly doing what he always did, well, then, we might say – he’s never going to get it. But there’s all sorts of evidence that he is getting it. Since his HR (not including that game), Pie’s AVG is up to .265 and his OBP to .333.
And let’s remember it’s still early in the season. In another fanpost I listed all the players Pie is out hitting by AVG right now At least a dozen were all-stars and many will likely be all-stars again. It’s early. Slow starts happen.
by DGU on
May 13, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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Well said!
And accurate. This is what puzzles me. Lou and Gerald Perry work with Pie to make adjustments, we see the changes, the results, while mixed, are better and then they cut his playing time further. They either are unimpressed or the “win now” emphasis is greater than I expected. I’ll suspend my criticism until it plays out and maybe I’ll learn something, because I don’t get what’s going on here.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on
May 13, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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To answer the question you pose in your first sentence...
...in 2006, Ronny Cedeno “enjoyed” (and I use that term loosely) 534 major league at-bats. That’s well over than TWICE the number of ABs Pie has gotten this season and last season combined. I think it’s simply unfair to say Pie isn’t ready when he hasn’t been given an adequate opportunity to prove anything.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
May 13, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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I am not sold on Pie's stick either.
He doesn’t get it and may not get it all year. He’s the type that may need a couple more years to learn when not to chase-to recognize sucker pitches early enough in the delivery to lay off them. Felix has all the tools-accept for one big one. Hitting for average. It won’t come quickly for him.
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by cubfever7 on
May 13, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Yes, but he's also the best defensive player we have...
...and potentially one of the best defensive players at his position in baseball right now. Any of the alternatives to Pie that have been brought up are major defensive downgrades, and marginal upgrades on offense – nobody’s offering us Grady Sizemore or B.J. Upton here. Why not let the kid play and provide his value on defense?
by cwyers on
May 13, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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The thing that kills me...
is that we have a ridiculously good offense, and that’s before we get the boost from Soriano (who appears to be warming up). We can spare a poor offensive player at one spot. Pie is by far the best CF we have defensively. And given more time, he may learn to hit. But he doesn’t even have to learn to hit to be beneficial to this team. Batting 8th with gold glove quality defense in CF may be enough with our offense.
And if/when he does figure it out at the plate, he’s all that much more valuable.
by SouthernCub on
May 13, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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And what happens when Edmonds leaves...
...either at the end of the season or when the Cubs decide he has nothing left? We’re right back where we left off. And Pie needs playing time to learn to hit, and the Cubs have to either find him that playing time or cut their losses. This half-measures crap is so annoying.
And, as I believe DGU is fond of pointing out – at what OTHER point can we afford to give Pie a chance, if not now?
by cwyers on
May 13, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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Exactly...
The offense is cruising. This is EXACTLY the situation in which one could ease Pie into the majors. The only other situation that might be better would be if he were playing for a terrible team in which it really didn’t matter one way or the other.
But given that we have the highest-scoring team in baseball, we can afford for Pie to make outs 70% of the time instead of 67% of the time like Johnson or Edmonds (and that’s probably a generous estimate for Edmonds).
by SouthernCub on
May 13, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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All we are saying
is give Pie a chance. If he’s still stinking by the fourth of July, call up San Francisco about Randy Winn or something.
I really don’t get any of this either.
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by Josh77 on
May 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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Ivy, any inside information. . .
on great trades that you just know are going to happen?
Edmunds is useless on this team. Pie can outplay him and if given a chance probably out hit him. We don’t need him any more than Iowa needs more corn fields.
Frankly, stick a fork in him, he’s done.
by bubbamike the one and only on
May 13, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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The only point I can think of
is perhaps they are thinking along the Gary Gaiettii line and how he helped in 98.
Other than that it makes no sense.
Won’t cost much though, so at least if the Cubs go ahead and do it that will be a small silver lining.
by Wisc Badger on
May 13, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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Players and situations are different.
I’m not sure why they would make such a comparison.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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I agree with everything you say about Pie, Al -
but I think we’ve passed the point where Lou will be reasonable with Pie. I honestly don’t think Lou was ever willing to give Pie a shot this year. You pointed out the playing time problems. You can also look at the number of strikeout pitchers Pie was put in against and how Pie’s one stretch of hot-hitting was followed by a week-long benching. Lou has been trying to force Hendry’s hand and as long as Hendry could say – those other GMs are asking too much, he could hold off. With Edmonds, there’s nothing Hendry can say without simply saying “No, Lou – you’re wrong and Pie will play.”
So, what are the silver linings of a Jim Edmonds signing? He’ll probably be better in the lineup v. RHP than Reed Johnson. His signing may stave off the Cubs trading valuable trade pieces for Ken Griffey Jr. or some similar disaster. If his signing leads to Fontenot going down so Pie’s option is saved, then we’ll get more Cedeno.
The most important point, I believe, however, of this signing is that the Cubs are leading the league in runs scored and need to improve their run prevention, not their run production. This is very basic. And yet Lou is oblivious to it. To trade Pie for Edmonds is a big step in the wrong direction on defense. Lou has a big blind spot on this team. Hopefully getting his lefty bat, his white whale, will curb the madness.
by DGU on May 13, 2008 8:34 AM CDT 0 recs
I think you're right about Lou.
The question is, WHY? And if this was the case before spring training even began, why did they not go and make a deal in addition to getting Reed Johnson?
Again, the team is winning and scoring tons of runs. Why screw with it?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:39 AM CDT
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Also, you say...
... better vs. RHP than Johnson.
Well, let’s look at that.
Edmonds vs. RHP in 2008: .192/.286/.247 in 73 AB
Johnson vs. RHP in 2008: .263/.318/.342 in 76 AB
Seriously, does anyone in Cub management actually look at these before they make a move?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:44 AM CDT
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You're right that so far
Edmonds has not outhit Johnson v. RHP, but I think there’s a good chance over the next 30 days Edmonds will outhit Johnson v. RHP. Petco’s not as hard on LH hitters as it is on RH hitters, but it’s still a pitcher’s park.
As for – why not make a deal before the season? I think they tried to. They tried to get Roberts or Crisp and came up empty. I remember a quote or two from Lou in spring training that the team needed another piece (beyond RJ). He got stuck in that idea, ignoring that the Cubs were scoring runs in bushels. The offense didn’t need another LH bat to work.
by DGU on
May 13, 2008 8:49 AM CDT
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Exactly.
Let’s hope the “just say no to Edmonds” people in the office win the “internal discussions”.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT
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Do you really think it's possible to turn the tide?
I’ve kind of felt this move (or a move like it) coming for a while now.
by DGU on
May 13, 2008 8:58 AM CDT
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Maybe.
But, at least we do know that there are differing opinions in the front office. We just don’t know who has enough sway to sway Lou and Jim away from this bad signing.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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"Bad signing"
See, the way I’m looking at it – giving up on Felix Pie is the mistake. But if you can’t turn Lou away from that mistake, there are a variety of decisions that could make things worse than this signing. e.g., we could trade for KG Jr.; we could trade for Felipe Lopez.
At least with Edmonds, we keep our trade chips and maybe Lou stops obsessing about lineup balance. Sure the defense takes another step back, but Lou was going that route anyway. And if Edmonds hits as he has for the first 90 ABs in the next 45 ABs – he’s gone without added cost.
Don’t get me wrong – I’m not happy about swapping Pie for Edmonds – but it’s seemed to me for weeks that Pie was not going to get a fair shot.
by DGU on
May 13, 2008 9:08 AM CDT
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100% afreed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 9:08 AM CDT
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Because Piniella makes rash decisions on players...
Ignoring the fact that not everyone succeeds instantaneously. And he gets tunnel-vision on things once he’s made those rash decisions.
Piniella is a terrific in-game manager and he definitely seems to understand the value of plate discipline and OBP, which is a good thing. But he has his flaws, too.
I do not think that signing Edmonds is going to work out well for the Cubs. He wasn’t a productive hitter (or a power hitter) LAST year. This year, he’s not been a hitter at all. The best I can hope for is that it doesn’t hurt us too much.
by SouthernCub on
May 13, 2008 8:58 AM CDT
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I'm resigned to this move, I guess.
I think it’s a bad move, but if Edmonds is a Cub, I hope he turns his season around and becomes productive.
I also hope for money, power, and fame.
I should probably get used to disappointment. (5 pts for whomever catches that movie reference)
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 8:41 AM CDT 0 recs
Princess Bride?
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner!
Inigo: Who are you?
Man In Black: No one of consequence.
Inigo: I must know!
Man in Black: Get used to disappointment.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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Thank You
You warthog faced bufoon!!!!
LOL
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by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:24 AM CDT
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To the pain!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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hahahaha
I love that movie you miserable vomitous mass. Great stuff!!!!
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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Have fun storming da castle!
Do think they can do it?
It would take a miracle.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 13, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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And YOU!
Do you want me to send back where you were? Unemployed—-in GREENLAND!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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SON OF A MDBNIU
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 13, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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Huh?
You lost me on that one, Hammer….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:49 AM CDT
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Hammer
I don’t mean to pry, but do you happen to have 6 fingers on your right hand?
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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Stop saying that!!!
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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as you wish.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on
May 13, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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True love *is*...
...the greatest thing in the world, except for an MLT – Mutton, Lettuce, and Tomato – where the mutton is niiice and lean, and the tomato is ripe. They’re so perky, I love that!
BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT HE SAID!! He distinctly said, “To Blaaaaaave”. And, as we all know, “to blave” means “to bluff”. You were probably playing cards and he cheated or something…
by Shawon O Meter on
May 13, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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LIAR! LIAR!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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I'm not witch,
I’m your wife! But after what you just said, I’m sure I wanna be that anymore!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Fantastic movie...
so many terrific one-liners and quotes.
by SouthernCub on
May 13, 2008 9:19 AM CDT
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I think
I’d like to amend the Two Classic Blunders to the Three Classic Blunders:
This first, and most well known: never get involved in a land war in Asia.
The second, and only slightly less well known: never take on a Sicilian when death is on the line.
The third, and still slightly less well known: don’t spend money on aging outfielders.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 9:21 AM CDT
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Excellent!!!
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on
May 13, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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Heh...
Jim Hendry (to Cub fans): “What in the world could THAT be!?” (Pointing way off behind us)
Cub Fans (spinning around to look): “What? Where?”
Jim Hendry (discretely replacing Felix Pie with Jim Edmonds): “Oh well…I could have sworn I saw something…no matter!”
by Shawon O Meter on
May 13, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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Perfect.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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That might have worked
but I’ve spent the last few years building up an immunity to Over the hill Free agent acquistions.
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!



