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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Tuesday 5/13, 7:05 CT

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San Diego Padres
@ Chicago Cubs

Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:05 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Shawn Estes vs Jason Marquis

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing from right to left field at 10-20 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

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Four in a row and five of six. The Cubs, in a mini-slump for a couple of weeks, seem on a roll. They were worried about having to play so many home games early in the season, but with a 15-6 home record so far, they are taking good advantage.

Tonight, the first 10,000 fans in attendance will receive an Alfonso Soriano bobblehead. There is no truth to the rumor that it also does bunny hops.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
J. Marquis
Cubs
vs. Shawn Estes
S. Estes
Padres
1-2 W-L 0-0
5.08 ERA 0.00
21 SO 2
15 BB 1
3 HR 0
vs. SD -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jason Marquis 1-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 33.2 43 20 19 3 15 21 5.08 1.72


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Shawn Estes 0-0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.2 2 2 0 0 1 2 0.00 1.80

Jason Marquis just has to pitch better, period, or I suspect Lou's patience with him will run out. A year ago at this time, he had just thrown a CG shutout against the Pirates and he was 5-1 with a 1.70 ERA. Suffice to say that this year, he's not doing that. He is, however, 3-2, 3.38 in six career starts vs. San Diego, and has a 1.69 ERA in his last three outings. The Padre who hits him best is Michael Barrett, who's on the DL. Other than that, the only Padre who will actually play tonight who hits Marquis well is Tadahito Iguchi, 5-for-7 with two doubles (and all of that was in two games last year, on May 19, when he was 3-for-4, and then right after his trade to the Phillies, on July 31, when he went 2-for-3 against Marquis. The Cubs won both games anyway).

Shawn Estes, wow. Before last week he hadn't pitched in the major leagues since April 2006, and he hasn't had a full season with an ERA under 5.00 since 2001. He last pitched against the Cubs on May 7, 2004, and the Cubs beat the living daylights out of him, scoring nine earned runs in 2.2 innings. Among current Cubs, Aramis Ramirez is 8-for-13 (2 HR) vs. Estes, and Henry Blanco (who probably won't start tonight, but I had to post this) is 0-for-7 ... but with five walks. Estes has had a pretty mediocre career, but as a lefthander, he has made enough money to buy a 6200-square-foot home in Paradise Valley, Arizona. You'd think that with a house like that, he'd smile more. (Looks pretty unhappy in that photo, doesn't he?)

I was corrected by the San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on SD's TV coverage, which is listed as "CH4"; I assumed that was a broadcast channel. I should know better, because there's no over-the-air channel 4 in SD. This is Cox Cable 4, who has an exclusive deal, so you can't even get this channel via satellite. If you want to watch the Padres in SD, you have to get Cox Cable. Anyway, there's more on today at the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment thread will post at 8:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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I'm calling it with the first post.

7-4 Cubbie win, Jason gives up three in 6 innings.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 3:46 PM CDT   0 recs

ESTES

LIGHT EM UP.

He does look pissed, probably because he is a Cub fan and found out they might sign Edmonds who couldnt even hit off of him.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 13, 2008 3:51 PM CDT   0 recs

What's the best gametracker in you guys opinion?

I still have yet to find one that is as quick as my phone and is worth sitting at the computer for, especially with the playoffs on tonight…

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 3:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Gameday

at mlb.com is pretty solid. runs just around a minute behind

by MJMars on May 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's quick, but it's also SO jumbled together.

I like the actual interface on ESPN’s better but it’s sloooooooowwwwww

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the frustrating thing about that is

when you click on a box score and go back it goes about an inning back and starts over. gets on my damn nerves!

by MJMars on May 13, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have mixed feelings about Gameday's interface, but I'll say one thing...

...the video highlights feature they added this year is FREAKIN’ AWESOME. Basically, they post video clips of key plays within a few minutes of the play occuring. And most of the clips don’t make it to the recap posted on cubs.com (and other MLB sites) after the game is over. Best of all, it’s free. There’s a lot not to like about the way MLB handles its Interweb offerings, but they got it right in this case.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

That is such a great new feature!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 13, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Back this train up. I didn’t know about that feature! Looks like I’m trying MLB gameday today.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's like AOL circa 1997:

It literally says in the window “You’ve got videos!” You can’t miss it.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, definitely worth the price of admission (which is nothing).

Maybe we should stop talking about it, though. If MLB reads this, they’ll start charging us.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bud's already sent the memo.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't worry though...

most of you will probably be in the new “Gameday Blackout” areas.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I laughed

My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th

by Rudey on May 13, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

MLB's, by far...

...since I don’t have cable (only bunny ears), and I live in bum-f Kansas (Rock Chalk), AND because my internet is city-wide wifi (read: slow), I rely on gametrackers and MLB audio for 99% of my Cubs’ news. Thus, I’ve tried them all out.

MLB is, as someone said, about 20-45 seconds behind live coverage, which I don’t think is bad.

ESPN is also a bit behind, but I don’t like the layout nearly as much.

I’ve tried CBS, but that was awhile ago.

I usually pair MLB GameDay with MLB Audio, and I’m set.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

I like MLB better. I like the layout better and how the information is given. I also like how you can fit all the information on a single screen with the MLB Gameday.

Daver got is right about the video clips though. That is a fantastic feature.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 13, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like em for different things

I like CBS because they have pitch counts, and often have a glog to describe the action.

I like ESPN for the pitch descriptions including break up/down and left/right along with mph and visual of location.

But the video feature on MLB, I havent tried. Definitely will though!

by californiachicagoan on May 13, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoops. ESPN sucks.

The pitch thing I attributed to ESPN was mlb. I guess I dont like ESPN for anything!

by californiachicagoan on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh Shawn....

what a garbage pitcher you are. Should be a slugfest tonight

by MJMars on May 13, 2008 3:54 PM CDT   0 recs

THIRD!!

And the Cubs will win 8-6.

by Rev Gunia on May 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT   0 recs

AMEN

:)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 13, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh Shawn....

what a garbage pitcher you are. Should be a slugfest tonight

by MJMars on May 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT   0 recs

LOL @ Rev

beat me to it…

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"

by Bump Bailey on May 13, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can say that again:)

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"

by Bump Bailey on May 13, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wil be at the game

i am 1-1. the one loss being opening day. go cubbies.

by xene on May 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT   0 recs

He's here with a present for the Cubbies!

Batting practice anyone?

Ok ok I’ll stop before I jinx something. Watch him throw a no-no.

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 4:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

200

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 13, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what,

is this a bidding war?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

and we’re going to take the funds to send to Hendry to not sign Edmonds . . .

by Shanghai Badger on May 13, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember how we used to struggle against LHP last year?

2007 Cubs vs LHP .263/.325/.431 .756 OPS

2008 Cubs vs LHP .296/.393/.439 .831 OPS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks like we learned

to take the walk against the soft tossing lefties.

by californiachicagoan on May 13, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's about friggin time!

Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008

by SackMan on May 13, 2008 6:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My prediction - Cubs 11, San Diego 8

I think I was at 4 games last year where Marquis failed to hold a 4-run lead . . . I see this one being similar:

SD 004 021 100
CHI 041 211 20x

by Shanghai Badger on May 13, 2008 4:12 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't really care what Marquis does tonight...

...how bout some extended relief opportunities for those NOT named Wood or Marmol? Not saying Jason has to get lit up, but a good 3 or 4 innings to get Wuertz, Howry, or Eyre some work might be a good time? Thoughts?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:14 PM CDT   0 recs

Seeing as Jason averages

about 5.2 IP per start this season, I’d say you’re going to get your wish.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh, well, Eyre and Howry pitched last night.

Marquis was signed to eat innings. I’d like to see him chow down.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but...

...Marmol’s arm HAS to be sore already, right? And if it’s a non-save opportunity, why not stretch out these two again? At least Howry.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea...

...to give Howry back-to-back outings. He gave up three hits last night but seems to be getting things together otherwise. At least he’s not walking guys.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pitching Healthy and Good Enough

The Cubs have three solid starters (Big Z, Dempster, and Lilly). Marmol and Wood appear to be solid enough in the bullpen. That’s good enough pitching to win the division, if they stay healthy. Yeah, finding or developing 4th and 5th starters would be appreciated. The bullpen depth could be better, but good guys at the back of the starting rotation and good middle relievers are hard to find. Stay healthy, pitchers!

by memphiscub on May 13, 2008 4:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Your avatar reminds me too much of the Dodgers

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You hit it on the head...

good enough to win the division. Good enough to win in the playoffs – we just dont know.

And i agree with dtpollitt :)

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 13, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How many 4th and 5th starters are you going to use in the playoffs?

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on May 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoa nelly

Lets not put the cart before the horse here…..

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not...

..I was just responding to the comment that our 4th and 5th starters might be good enough to get us into the playoff but somehow not good enough to win in the playoffs. My point is those guys play a much smaller role in the playoffs and I don’t see alot of teams around the league who wouldn’t like to have better pitching in the 4 and 5 holes.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on May 13, 2008 4:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That Playoff Thing

The lack of bullpen depth, as it stands right now, really would concern me in a playoff series. The 5th starter and maybe the 4th starter would be used in the bullpen in postseason. The guys filling those roles, to this point, have not been effective. Let’s hope the Cubs get to the playoffs..

by memphiscub on May 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The guys filling what roles?

If you’re talking about the 4th and 5th starter, I agree but I would be very surprised if Rich Hill doesn’t make a solid comeback. But I think the bullpen has been pretty decent this year. They have a low WHIP and an average ERA (3.60). They don’t seem as good as last year but actually in terms of ERA and WHIP they are better than they finished last year.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on May 13, 2008 4:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So is there anyone that is NOT available in the pen tonight?

I would guess that Marmol would be pretty off-limits, but anyone else?

"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."

by Fukumania on May 13, 2008 4:23 PM CDT   0 recs

Eckersley not available

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lee Smith probably out as well.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just read your signature and almost spit out my delicious Keystone Light all over my final exam paper

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably the first (and last) time this phrase:

my delicious Keystone Light

has ever been written. That said, I literally spat Old Style all over my living room floor when Morgan said it on air.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Finals week, 16 oz. 6 pack of The Key, $4.43. Not my usual forte.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Finals week, 16oz. 6 pack of Old Style. My usual forte.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The beer I "rent" and dispose of

has more taste than Key Lite. J/K

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 13, 2008 5:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How does one rent beer?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you don't really buy beer,

you only rent it….

"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." Frank Costello

by kalamazoo_cubs_fan on May 13, 2008 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Renting Beer:

Step 1: Exchange $ for Beer
Step 2: Drink Beer
Step 3: Wait 10 minutes
Step 4: Set captive beer free, back into the wild from whence it came.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 5:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is this like photosynthesis??

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't that the real meaning of recycling?

n/t

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 13, 2008 5:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

-1 for Mitch Williams...

-1,000,000 for Rod Beck…

sorry…bad taste.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I KNEW IT

I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GONNA GO THERE

grumble grumble

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Robble Robble..

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wokka Wokka?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 13, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd say Aardsma is a no...

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on May 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Roberta Nova?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that anything like

a super novoa?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Almost...

but more like a champagne super nova….in the sky.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And somewhere,

Liam Gallagher has just punched his brother in the face.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most