Season tickets questions

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 5:03 PM CDT

I have always thought the way the Cubs handle their tickets has been odd. And i was wondering if anyone had any info on if how season ticket holders are treated is the same across all sports.

So let's say i'm your average Cubs fan in the Chicago area. When January/February rolls around i either jump all over the 9 game package and/or get my wristband and hope i get lucky (like this year) or just wait till tickets go on sale and try to get as many good dates/ value dates as i can. Last season when the Cubs made the playoffs, i tried to get tickets but didn't jump fast enough.

Now i know the Cubs usually offer those post-season tickets to season ticket holders first, and then the rest are sold after that. Now, i get that the season ticket holders contribute alot of money to the club every year and the Cubs are trying to reward their most loyal(ie: wealthiest/older?) fans. But i've always had a problem with this. Season ticket holders get to go to every home game the cubs play, rightly so, they pay for it. But for the average fan like me, getting the chance to see my handfull of games and even the posibility of a post-season game... i think it would be fair to offer the tickets to everyone at the same time.

I'm sure there are people on here who have their "place in line" for season tickets. I'm sure someone here is 47,000th in line. I have always thought, that much like a politician's term in office, season tickets should only be allowed by the same ticket holder, let's say for 4 years consecutively. Theoretically (and quite possibly) i could be a Cub fan for the next 35 years and never get my chance to have my summer of Cubs baseball.

No offense to the season-ticket holders here but i just wondered what other people's thoughts were and if these same practices are carried out around the league and in other sports?

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I understand....

what you are saying. I am not a season ticket holder but hope to be one day (currently 388) and I do feel that if you are a season ticket holder, those are your seats as long as you can hold on to them. I go to almost all the weekend games at Wrigley as I travel during th week and can’t make those. I utilize the ticket sales in February and team up with friends to make sure we have as many games covered as possible. It is strategic and there is a lot of communication between us during the process. This year I bought the starting 9 pack plus did very well in Feb but I still don’t have tickets for all the games I want to see. I utilize game time ticket releases (Box office, even if S.R.O) as much as possible if I don’t have a seat. There are many many ways to get seats at Wrigley without paying through the nose.

when asked about his performance against the Reds - Lieber said the following
"Well obviously I made some bad pitches today, left to many over the plate and they got good wood on the ball. The only good thing was that I was able to get back into the clubhouse earlier then I planned so I could eat."

by 1060 W Addison on May 13, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions

All sport's season tickets are handled the same way

until the ticket holder no longer wants them he has first right to those tickets. Why should a fan who has had season tickets since 1975 be punished because more fans want to see the games now? But now that they are more popular those fans should be screwed so more people can get season tickets. Good luck with that! There was not a waiting list before 2003.

by cubdreamer on May 13, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions

i didn't know that

there wasn’t a list before ‘03. But i see what you are saying with the games at Wrigley growing in popularity in the last few years. But who said anything about “punishing” lifelong fans? the major gripe i had was about post-season games. Is my money not as good as a 30 year vet at Wrigley. and to turn it around, why punish someone who’s willing to spend the money but just hasn’t been given the chance? I’m not saying to “screw” anyone, there has to be a middleground besides waiting for season ticketholders to die off … or unitl they are on fixed incomes and can’t afford to go anymore. I look at going to see a ballgame at Wrigley a priveledge. May sound corny to some but even when i go 10-12 times a year i get a goosebumbs and a thrill. A season ticket holder who’s had them since ‘75 has had almost 3,000 chances to experience that. What’s the harm in every so often throwin other fans a bone. That’s all my point was.
On another topic, does anyone know what percentage of the seats at Wrigley are given to season tickets each year?

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Gee, too bad. I guess we should change

things for you. Your money isn’t the same as a season ticketholders. Season ticketholders have paid for the whole season for many, many bad teams-they should be rewarded for loyalty. You idea is a joke. I’ve had my 5 tickets since 1983 when they cost me $3800. Last year they cost $26500 and this year $30250. I put out a lot of money, as do all season ticketholders, and you expect that you should be entitled to the same chance to buy post season tickets as people who finance the team? Sorry, that just will never happen.

by cubswin on May 13, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions

yes

It seems every negative comment i’ve gotten on her towards my idea comes from… go figure… season ticket holders? If some of you were even willing to entertain the thought of a system that lets newer/recently financially able fans to at least have a chance for a ticket.
Everyone is so negative here. If what you are saying is true and the market/atmosphere has changed so much recently doesn’t it make sense that the system of meeting the fans needs might also need to change?
Really guys, i’m just thinking out loud here. This was not meant to offend season ticket holders although if i were in your shoes i can understand how you may think we were being selfish. But really, you got a chance once at tickets… i’m sure you jumped.
The fact of the matter is… the view from the outside (us fans who will never gt the opportunity at those tickets) ... just throw us some table scraps every once in a while.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, you're right

Post Season tickets are table scraps-
If you’re so financially able, then buy the tickets you want from a broker. They had plenty during the playoffs last year. Your thinking is twisted and self serving, too bad no one will pay attention to your “idea”.

Last year they put 7000 tickets out for sale to each playoff game, I guess you felt that wasn’t convenient you to try to get. This year you should just call at the end of September and tell them to hold one for you. I’m sure they will care as much as I do. As the saying goes- get in line, the back of the line and wait like everyone else.

by cubswin on May 13, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions

wow...

all of 7000 tickets… 1/6 of the capacity of Wrigley. So giving. And the other 35, 000 seats? Hey i’m perfectly willing to wait it line, that’s my argument. you don’t see any flaw in selling 1/6 of the seats?

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions

you really are a whiny little thing.

Why do you think they should give you any?

by cubswin on May 14, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions

perhaps?

But i had no idea how grumpy you season ticket holders could be. Perhaps it’s all the unsold tickets, used vacation days and traveling costs that Doggie Stalker spoke of that put you in a bad mood? Oh, and the lump sum payment up front.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 14, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions

I am not in a bad mood

Except to the idea someone wants to take my tickets away.
When I started I shared them with a friend and had the weekend combo plan
He got married , moved to the burbs and gave up after a few years. I moved
to New York kept them and eventually upgraded to full season for fear of not
getting tickets to EVERY post season game.
I have had numerous offers from folks to share the tickets and I could easily do
this AND keep all the post season ones given the demand and that I only use
the seats for about 14 games a year ( I sit another 12 or so in the bleachers) but as my mother correctly says I do like the “power ” they give me, Heck
I love playing “ticket fairy” on BCB and sometimes Craig’s list when I see
a sincere and reasonable request especially from out of towners.

All I can say is, THEY ARE MINE, ALL MINE.

by Doggie Stalker on May 14, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

I happen to agree with the above poster.

You’re whining about something that is never going to be changed, and every single sports team in North America does it this way.

Keep it up and you’ll get that famous horse graphic that’s been posted here many times.

Advice from me: drop this issue.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

LOL!

Yes i know what you are refering to. And i agree it’s all just spinning wheels here…

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 14, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

thirty thousand dollars?

holy cow. Do they let you finance that?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions

no, they want it all by Jan 15th of each year

by cubswin on May 14, 2008 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Speaking for myself

I have a subprime loan deal with the devil which works out pretty good
Alas the 2nd morgage I took on my soul regarding the Cubs winning a World
Series has so far been caught up in credit crunch but I am hoping to cash in this
year.

For RMZ. Here’s the deal pay me back the MANY thousands I lost on the unsold tickets
( especially in the pre internet years) all my airfares since 1990 I had to use to fly to Chicago ( oh and my 89 fair from Europe for the playoffs) the 90% of my whopping 3 weeks of vacation days used for Cub games ( I spend the other two at Fim Conventions) for
the last 18 years and then maybe we can work out a deal to share my seats.

by Doggie Stalker on May 14, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Grizzlies Season Ticket Holder "Perks"

The Memphis Grizzlies, a semi-pro basketball team, that plays host to real NBA teams, 45 times a year, offer season ticket holders the chance to buy single game tickets and playoff tickets (irrelevant since “06) before they go on sale to the general public. No waiting list is necessary for Grizzlies season tickets. You can get into the games for $5 a pop. That’s a good value to see the other team play.

by memphiscub on May 13, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions

it's good to see karl marx is a cubs fan.

thanks for stopping by karl!

by billywan on May 13, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions

No sympathy from me

It’s unfortunate you can’t get season or post season ticket but don’t expect too much sympathy from me. I got my season tickets in 86 only a few years out of college and making very little money, to this day I am about 99% sure I have an annual income lower than virtually any other season ticket holder. Back in 86 you could easily get season tickets because the Cubs where a bad team now they are good everyone wants in. Between the season ticket base and the overall commitments to MLB ( other teams, advertisers) the Cubs have very few post season tickets to sell. For the record I think the Cubs do a a fairer job of selling tickets than any other team. The wristband lottery is hardly the easiest way for them to do it but flaws and all it is much more equitable than the internet. Don’t live in Chicago ? FIND A FRIEND to do it for you. If it is that important you can. Most people gripe that they can’t get post season tickets or tickets to Cardinals game in August well then go to weekday game in April against the Reds. Game is the same. If it meant that much to you than go to less desirable games. I got so tired of offering folks my tickets when everyone always wanted the same 10 games that instead of selling most to friends I sell most on stubhub. Sorry but that is the way it is.
I have to do something to help with rising airfares.

by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply actions

im approx #41000

it sucks but you deal with it.

To those of you who have had season tix forever. Kudos to you.

I’m curious who has had season tix the longest here out of the BCB group.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on May 13, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions

How many of those 41000

Will flake out when their number is called? I’m curious to see what would happen given a stretch of bad seasons.

Also, when your number comes up, can you only buy one seat? What if you want two?

my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there

by dr stabbingworth on May 14, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Good question.

Depends on how many are available, I guess. Most people have at least two in their account, so I’d guess if one person cancels, you’d be offered those two seats.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

i got mine..

in the Winter of 83-84. Right after the Sox won their division, A sOX fan I worked with help convince me to do it, He has Sox seasons and told me to go for it and I did, ANd what a wonderful season that 84 season was. I was only making 16K at the time but what a good investment that was. Now in my 25th year of having the tickets…it still is fun to go to the ballpark.

Kasey

See the Cubs 2008 schedule (with TV schedule & game-by-game results) at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html

by kaseyi on May 13, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions

That's when I got my tickets also.

by cubswin on May 14, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions

I've had mine for 5 years...and...

Here’s my issue with your argument…every year, season ticket holders shell out a heck of a lot of money for their seats. Let’s just ballpark it at $3,000 – $5,000 per seat. It’s an investment…and like any investment, there are risks. If the Cubs are awful…like they were back in ‘06, you end up sitting at games where there are 4 people in the stands with you. And if they’re great, like they were in ‘03…well, then your investment pays off.
You pay for tickets when it’s a Tuesday game in April and it’s 27 degrees.
You pay for tickets when the Cubs are 65-85 in September.
You pay for tickets when it’s 80 degrees and sunny in the middle of June.
That’s why you get first dibs at playoff and World Series tickets.
The average fan goes to a few games a year…usually the same games that everybody wants to go to. White Sox, Cardinals, etc. Do you seriously think it’s fair to pull somebody’s tickets after 4 years? After all of the money and support that a season ticket holder puts out every year? That’s just silly. You want to have your summer of Cubs baseball? Lots of tickets can be had for weekday games below face value. Spend a few bucks extra on the weekend. Work a little harder online…it can be done.

by bergs55 on May 13, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions

Well said.

This is exactly how I feel, and I have shelled out tons of money over the 17 years I have had bleacher season tickets. Postseason tickets are the perk we wait for.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 13, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks bergs...

At least yur argument was civil. You raise good points. I really was never trying to question the season ticket holders themselves. You guys are awesome with your dedication. As for the pulling the tickets after 4 years… i was just hoping someone else would chime in with other ideas that might have worked for other teams. the number 4 was just an arbitrary number for arguments sake.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions

There's really no way they'll ever do that.

Season tickets are the way most teams are going—they’d like to sell as many as possible, because that gives them the money up front, rather than have to piecemeal it for single game sales.

We are their best customers. We put up thousands of dollars in advance every single year, buy the crappy games as well as the good ones, and return year after year (there were exactly FOUR cancellations after 2007; three people who died and one who moved to Europe).

Playoff tickets are our reward for this sort of loyalty. As noted, there were 7000 postseason tickets per game put on sale. That’s actually a fairly large number, about 17% of capacity. The Cubs are popular, which is why it’s hard to get those tickets.

I’m sorry that you didn’t get in on season tickets a number of years ago when they were still freely available. I have friends who would love to buy bleacher season tickets, but they’re not selling any more of them. It’s just the way it goes.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Al, question about the wait list...

You said that there were 4 cancellations last year, are the Cubs gonna update people for the spot in line? I haven’t gotten an update since September of ‘06

Has anyone else on the list been updated since then?

"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." Bob Uecker

by mmaxon on May 14, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't know the answer to this, since I'm not on the list.

Anyone?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I haven't gotten an update in a while either..

But I think if you created a logon at the website you can check your place in line.

By the way Al, any thoughts on what the new ownership might do with the weekend/night game season ticket plan? I fear the new owner will do away with that plan..

The journey is the reward!

by wicubfan on May 14, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I doubt it.

Remember where you heard this first: those expecting that new ownership will come in and suddenly sweep away the existing staff and procedures are likely to be disappointed.

First of all, the business and marketing side of the Cubs has been HUGELY successful. Why would you fire those people?

The baseball staff is another story, but if the Cubs make the playoffs this year and advance farther than last year, I think any owner would have a hard time justifying why they just fired a successful GM.

We’ll see what happens, but that’s my take on it. The answer to your question is that I think new ownership would probably just continue what has been being done on the ticket plans, which is to try to steer weekend/night plans to a daily plan, without eliminating it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

thanks

n/t

The journey is the reward!

by wicubfan on May 15, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Alarming News.....

There were only 4 cancellations after last season? I am currently number 388 on the list. Assuming they add no more season tickets, I will have to wait (388/4) 97 more years until I get a call. I would be more than happy to wait around but nature may interfere evenutally.

By the way, I had no problems getting tickets for the NLDS and the NLCS last season at Wrigley. They weren’t great seats but it was a seat. I really had no troubles at all getting seats for the playoffs in AZ as well.

by 1060 W Addison on May 14, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions

When they rebuild the concourse

IF they rebuild it, they will add more seats and youll get em.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 14, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions

No, they won't.

At 41,188 the capacity of Wrigley is just about optimal for a baseball park. Why do you think new baseball parks are being built with around 42,000 seats?

Example: Citi Field in NY will have about 43,000 seats, 14,000 less than Shea. Why? Because Shea had 14,000 crappy upper level seats that they had a hard time selling.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

i think i read

that the new A’s stadium in freemont is only gonna have about 34,000. the coliseum has these giant tarps they put over the upper deck because they’re always empty.

34,000 still seems a bit pessimistic to me, though…

by billywan on May 14, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

However, this further proves my point.

Baseball teams are trending to fewer, better seats rather than just building bigger parks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions

true

wonder what it will mean for the future of ticket prices. especially playoff ticket prices.

the A’s never open those upper deck seats, except for the playoffs when i’m sure they make a ton of money off of them.

by billywan on May 14, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

If you think Cub tickets are expensive...

... go to the Red Sox and Yankees websites and look at their pricing schemes.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

no i actually

don’t think cubs tix are expensive at all. i do expect them to follow the model of SF even more in the future, though. giants tix are by and large pretty reasonable. unless you want to sit close. then you pay through the nose. upwards of $175 for box seats. i expect the cubs to start charging more and more for all of those season tix on the infield.

i just think the overall model of smaller stadiums is an interesting gamble. they’re basically saying the expense of the extra seats isn’t worth the added revenue we get from filling those seats in the playoffs. but to make up for that lost playoff revenue i wouldn’t be surprised to see ticket prices trend even higher (which they will anyway…).

by billywan on May 14, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree with you on all of this.

As far as playoffs are concerned, prices for postseason tix are set by MLB, and believe me, they aren’t losing any $ on those.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I understand that

I just find it hard to believe they wouldnt add at least 2-3 thousand seats.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

But where?

In a rebuilt upper deck? Why? Those are the least desirable seats.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Not sure

maybe expand into where the Cubs parking is. It can be hard to add 2000 seats. Maybe 4 complete rows or something. Instead of 15 rows in the 200s make it 20 rows in the 200s

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

CANT BE HARD

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

not a season ticket holder...

...and i think this 4 year term is the stupidest thing i heard today. And I just watched yesterdays tivo’d Daily show interview with the stupidest f*ing man in washington, douglas feith.

By the way, number 1708 on the list – any guesses as to when I’ll get tickets?

by paul_reuschel on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions

Not a season ticket holder

But I certainly hope to be some day. My number on the list is over 50,000. When tickets went on sale for the NLDS last year me and my girlfriend had two phones and two computers working. We got tow seat in section 536 three rows from the top for $25.00 each. We were extremely lucky, but for tickets to even be available for $25.00 is pretty incredible

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on May 13, 2008 10:16 PM CDT reply actions

Wow!

You aren’t kidding.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 13, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Interesting idea...

...but it’ll never happen. You have to reward loyalty to the fans that have been paying for tickets for forever. Currently, I’m #21,000 in line, and I did not move up ONE SINGLE SPOT after last season. But that’s what happens when you have a winning ballclub. And if we continue to win the division, I’ll GLADLY stay at #21,000. However, the 9-gm package doesn’t benefit me, living in Mississippi. It’d be nice if they came up with some series packages or something for fans that have to travel a LONG way to see games. 9 games every other week just won’t work for me.

by sparky39762 on May 13, 2008 10:52 PM CDT reply actions

hey

i used to live in Clarksdale MS. Never went to any games though when i lived there, i was too young. Lotta Braves fans there?

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 14, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions

9 game package

Its a joke! They tried putting it off as buying 9 games whenever you want to go but you have to buy 4 games in April and I think 1 weekend game and the rest weekday games in may and september. If you are going to do a package make it more flexible.

by chicagodave on May 14, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Reason they did what they did:

They wanted to sell out some early season games that they ordinarily wouldn’t have, so they made you buy crappy games to get good ones.

It worked.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea

Thats the bad part, it worked and the cubs sold those tickets. If it didn’t work they would of tried something better next year. Ah well, just have to get my wrist band again next season and go into the wonderful virtual waiting room…. ugh… anyone else get the creeps when you say that word.

by chicagodave on May 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions

my attempt at a less rude post

your initial premise is flawed, so your suggestion falls apart. it’s possible to get tix to every single cubs game, all season long. you just have to be flexible. i’ve shown up day of and sat in the third row with a ticket i scored at the box office. i’m a partial season tix holder now, but even before i was, i went to a playoff game in ‘03. it’s called “ebay.” got standing room only tix, and they were fantastic.

if you’re really so concerned about your “summer of baseball” here’s a plan for you: take the $3-4k you’d pay for a seat and split it up throughout the season on individual tix. save $1,000 of it for playoff tix. that would give you about $2k to spend on tix. now take that, and go on cubs.com where lots of tix are still available. then, go on stubhub or ebay where people are selling all sorts of single game extra tix for face value. then, factor in a few walk up ticket purchases from either the box office or people selling on the street.

with this plan you’ll go to about 20-30 home games (which is a ton) and still have money left to pay for good playoff tix. all of this without having to deal with the pain in the ass of paying for season tix in one lump sum and dealing with all of the extra tix.

long story short, “fair” and “life” should rarely be used in the same sentence. and you should quit whining and go buy some tix if you want to go to a game.

by billywan on May 14, 2008 1:24 AM CDT reply actions

True

I’ve never not been able to go to a game that I wanted to go to. I have also purchased 3 rd row seats behind the Cubs bullpen 30 min. before game time. Craigslist, ebay, the ticket exchange here or brokers on the street are all good places to get tickets.

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on May 14, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions

when you say partial...

does that mean you split tickets with someone else or is there such a thing? Yur suggestions are good and i do go to alot of lengths to get as many tickets as i can. It’s too bad everyone here thinks yur whining when any old standbye is questioned. I try not to sound like a broken record. but thanks for your “more civil” post.

by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on May 14, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions

partial

partial=i have a nights and weekends package with my family. i’m not sure they offer this package anymore though.

whining=everyone’s in the same boat when it comes to getting tix. it’s tough. thus one person complaining that the system isn’t “fair” can easily be construed as whining on their part.

by billywan on May 14, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

They don't offer the combo package any more.

They’re trying to phase it out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

i keep worrying

they’re going to try to “phase us out” into buying a bigger package….

by billywan on May 14, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions

They probably won't force you to...

... but they want you to.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Life just isn't fair

We got our season tickets before 2003, and were blessed with a great season. But, we did have to sit through a couple bad years and didn’t get a refund from the cubs for their bad play.

If you’re looking for equality, you might want to look into becoming a sox fan. With their new season ticket packages, even for the full season, you are only guaranteed one game per series in the post season. Is that their way of evening the playing field for all fans? Or a greedy money grab that screws over the loyal season ticket holder?

I see our tickets as an investment. We go to most of the games, not quite as many as Al, and either our investment pays off – a great season and post season games – or, we have a down year and cubs stock is in the cellar.

But your “idea” is what’s wrong with the mindset of some Americans today. Someone else has invested time and money in something that you want, so they should have to share it with you just because you say so. Going through life with that attitude won’t get you very far. Take Billywan’s idea, and you could enjoy a good amount of cubs baseball and see some playoff games, too.

by gp1966 on May 14, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions

The Sox...

... don’t give all postseason games to new FULL season ticket holders? If that’s true, why would anyone buy one?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions

from their web site...

PLANS PURCHASED AFTER JANUARY 9, 2007
Full Season (81 Games) – Option to purchase up to the same number of seats in your account in the 500 Level for all three potential Division Series games, 1 Championship Series game, and 1 World Series game.
Hit and Run/Double Play Plan (27 Games) – No postseason option.

Prorated Full Season (75 Games or 67 Games) – Option to purchase up to the same number of seats in your account in the 500 Level for all three potential Division Series games, 1 Championship Series game, and 1 World Series game.

Prorated Hit and Run/Double Play Plan (24 Games) – No postseason option.

by gp1966 on May 14, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions

that really is a shame

i guess we can only hope for the sake of all of those sox fans out there that they never make another world series again, and thus are spared the heartache. it’s only right.

by billywan on May 14, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions

That's a really big mistake on their part.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

i have a...

handy dandy fire extinguisher if anyone needs one, although its kinda small.

Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!

by cubsluver22 on May 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

ALL THE TOP GAMES?

How many of us Season Ticket Holders sell part of our seats in able to afford to own them? I would have to say most of us. But, When we offer tickets to other Cubs Fans,,,,,How many get a responce like this?....... Cool, I’ll take the August Saturday game…...or How about the White Sox series ? Can I have those? Basicly most people want the prime games,,,,and want us who spend thousands to sit out in April when it is snowing ! Funny,,,,anyone else have this problem?

by Payton2000 on May 14, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions