Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 5/14, 7:05 CT
Stop this losing streak at 1!
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is that good enough for you?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT
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Well, I don tlike to complain
But a 3 run homer…..hahahaha
YES!
by Morg98 on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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Find it funny...
...that as Pie packs his bags for Des Moines, cubs.com is attempting to garner all-star votes for him.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT
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Why not? Edmonds could be long gone by ASB...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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GEO!!!!!!
6-3
A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou
by NIUcubbie on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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I heard this lineup is broken.
Geovany heard otherwise.
by DGU on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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Jesus.. Maybe our hitting doesn’t want Edmonds on the team either.
by Schizo on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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not sure what the big deal is with edmonds
hes just the other end of a platoon
by bheidge on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT
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the vs. RHP end.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT
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I'd rather had Pie there
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on
May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT
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let's win this!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT
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I was wrong
on one of BM posts. It wasn’t about Pie it was Daryle Ward and it’s in the DW fanpost.
by sue369 on
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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thanks
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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hahaha that was hilarious!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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that will shush him for awhile
he’s been extremely annoying. payback’s a bitch, aint it?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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yep it is.
He tried explaining his Soriano comment and I think Hammer just showed a picture of a guy who painted himself into a corner.
by sue369 on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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Damn it.
Lou took the bat out of Lilly’s hands!
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT
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It won't hurt his better than Edmonds average though
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT
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I've received at least 20 text messages
from Cardinals fans telling me how Edmonds is a washed up choke artist. I should be making fun of them about that, NOT VICE-VERSA! oh man, karma is a bit*h
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT
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You can counter that with:
Mulder,Kennedy,Clement, Izturis, Carpenter shall I name more? are washed up choke artists.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT
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don't worry... i did counter
with all of those as well as most of their starting rotation and closer lol but thanks
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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k um here we go lilly...
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT
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Lilly's on thin ice
Foxx getting his walking arm loose
by Itchy on
May 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT
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Why is Chad Fox on this team?
Especially when with have Pignetello and Hart.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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Pignatiello
10.24 ERA at Iowa… he’s really struggling.
Agree with you about Fox, though.
by jbau on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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Fox has a nasty slider when he actually gets warmed up properly. I prefer him to Pignatiello but I’m a fan of Hart.
by Schizo on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT
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Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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Chad Fox up....Lou please
...stop with the Chad Fox obsession…please.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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what is this shiz?!
come on lilly! and really chad fox??
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? to protect a lead?
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"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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Apparently Lilly's playing a different type of game
We give him a lead… and he tries to give it back.
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
by SackMan on
May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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he really ran out of gas in a hurry in the 5th...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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That Geo HR was huge 6-4
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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HUGE
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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What happened to the padres being terrible offensively?
by CubsBall2202 on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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They are
It’s not like they’re putting up a 10-spot.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Marquis and Lilly happened
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
by SackMan on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Sheesh Lilly..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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so much for the QS i mentioned
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Ted Lilly happened?
The man has 10 K’s
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT
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he's gassed....this is a pure stings and mirrors right now
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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And 4 ER in less than 6 innings...
The Ks are nice, but he’s given up a bunch of hits too…
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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Two games in a row
where Lilly’s had at least 10 Ks, no?
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT
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indeed
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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Bard is batting .211
c’mon Ted. Finish this guy and this inning
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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GOT EM! 11Ks
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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Gutty
performance
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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11 K's
Yet Ted Lilly happened? WTF that doesnt even make any sense.
People act like San Deigo got 15 runs that inning.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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You can get a lot of Ks and still have a bad start
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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Mister`
glass-half-full
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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How is 11K'S
A bad start? Look at have Peavy Did
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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**Look at what Peavy Did***
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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Yes, Peavy had a really bad start...
Lilly had 4 really good innings and one really bad one, and did a good job of surviving what could have been the second really bad inning. Gotta look at the total package, not just the Ks.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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Yeah, but 11 Ks, 1 BB, 0 HR...
...tells me that Lilly did his job, and balls just fell in for hits against him. A pitcher normally doesn’t control his hits.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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Not saying it was a terrible start...
just saying that the 11 Ks don’t tell the whole story. He had 4 amazing innings and 1 really bad one.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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Running it through FIP-ERA...
...gives you a 0.03 ERA for that sort of a performance. Yeah, six hits – but pitchers don’t give up hits, defenses do, in my opinion.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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He had four very good innings...
and one very bad one. It’s that simple. FIP-ERA away, but he was two different pitchers tonight.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Fielding Independent Pitching.
It’s an ERA calculator that tries to see how a pitcher would perform with a neutral/average defense. The formula is:
((13HR+3BB-2*K)/IP)+3.2
It’s a quick-and-dirty way of looking at a pitcher’s results based upon the Three True Outcomes, based on the assumption that a pitcher doesn’t control how often a batted ball is turned into a out or becomes a hit.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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That should be thirteen times home runs and three times walks.
My kingdom for an escape character!
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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gotcha....
Because the only thing a pitcher controls are HR, BB, and K. How did those constants get formed?
by GoCubbies34 on
May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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A guy named Tom Tango ran a regression analysis...
...and found numbers that seemed to match up pretty well. It’s a simplified version of DIPS.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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Please stop it
It was not a “quality” start, but the bottom line is he’s leaving with a lead and is in line to get the victory.
I swear, some of you will be satisfied with nothing but 10-0 victories every night.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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Don't tell me what to do...
I’m not a negative fan. Your militant attitude is annoying.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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So...
“please stop it”=militant.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Please review his post history...
This is not limited to this one post.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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I know sometimes things get out of hand in here...
...but at the same time, nobody’s spouting masses of obscenities or being downright unbearable, and people can go ahead and vent now and again.
I view this chat as a virtual bleachers or a sports bar – you want to go ahead and keep it to where people can come in and enjoy themselves, but you get a lot of in-the-moment reaction. And I think you can go overboard the other direction as well.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Agree....and the in the moment reactions are part of the deal
...everyone reacts a little differently to what is happening in the game…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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To clarify...
I was not venting. I’m very happy we’re winning. I was just pointing out that the 11 Ks aren’t the entire story. That’s why I was so annoyed by Not Bruce Froemming’s comment.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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As you said yourself, though...
...this is part of a larger pattern of behavior for NBF, and that’s what I was addressing. Sorry if that was unclear.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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No apologies
When a guy strikes out 11 and all someone wants to do is point out the runs he allowed - in a game he’s leading - that’s ridiculous.
And if you don’t like my “pattern of behavior,” talk to Al. I’ve got a few people whose “pattern of behavior” I’m not thrilled about, either.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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Take it in context man...
Sheesh. I wasn’t complaining. Just pointing out facts. You’re so wrapped up in attacking anyone who says anything remotely not positive that you have no concept of rational debate.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Not remotely not positive
Anything that’s relentlessly negative, particularly when there’s no reason to be.
Let’s chill, OK?
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Nothing I said was relentlessly negative...
yet you jumped on me. that was my point.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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Your attitude is basically think like you do
or get out of here… or please stop it as you said. Thats what rubs folks the wrong way.
by LT on
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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Again, no apologies
But I did say “Please,” after all. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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Sorry for misreading...
Thanks for the statement.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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Seriously Guys
I think I was the one who made light of people talking about Ted Lilly’s start, I didnt want to start a flame war or anything.
Lets not get into an arguement over stupid stuff.
Lets just sit back relax and enjoy what hopefully will be a Cubs Win!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Totally in agreeance
Let’s buckle down and get this victory, eh?
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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What a performance by Lilly
Didn’t have his greatest stuff the past two innings but got the job done.
Well done, Bull Moose.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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Amen....he battled something fierce in the 6th when he was spent
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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he is battlin
one tough inning give the guy a break – he is improving and has always been a bulldog
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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The single machine
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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single is good... getting on base is good...
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Pat says
Theriot is tied w/ Chipper and Utley for most multi-hit games at 18
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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That's good company
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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that is incredible
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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and yet some say are shortstop isnt a good enough hitter
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May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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some can't see the forest
...for the trees (or the stats).....hmmm
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May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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That's like
one of those crazy stats you read about when some guy is in the middle of a list that has Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio, etc. on it. Like its a game to figure out which name doesn’t fit.
by grifdog on
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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Who are the gunna put in Fox, Eyre or Marmol?
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May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Fox
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Eyre or Fox
not Marmol time yet.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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Let's score some more, so we can save Marmol
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
by SackMan on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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I hope Marmol time doesn't come tonight
Try to save his arm as much as possible
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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i see the logic
but i feel like he is just a horse and that it doesn’t matter how many innings he throws
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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I think he is too
but I think its good to be cautious with our best pitching weapon. I know a win is a win, but San Diego’s offense sucks, trot out some of our other BP guys. I just think we should, in the early goings, save Marmol’s arm as much as possible.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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Sunday
IIRC
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on
May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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A Ram double....Theriot scores! 7-4
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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D LEE
0 for 4 tonight. Why not hit and run with the riot to try to get him goin? what happened to us being aggressive? ah well, we’re scoring runs rampantly so i’ll shut up now. lol
I'm kind of a big deal
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May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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lee is just off
he will be fine but he’s struggling right now – good to see everyone picking him up
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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agreed
just a suggestion. open up some holes in the infield u know. As i said, we’re scoring runs from everywhere in the line-up so it’s all good. When he comes back…look out
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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thats the great thing about having so many good hitters in the lineup
...you dont even really notice he is 0-4 tonight.. Lee was hot when Sori was cold and now he is paying him back
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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When you have a hitter like Lee...
...what you do is you let him go to the plate and do his job, and at the end of the season the results will have been there. Nobody needs to get him going. He’s a professional hitter.
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May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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the MOST professional
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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Haha
Santo is asking Pat how he used to call Goals when he did Soccer games…Did you say “It could be it might be YES?”
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May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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At this point they’ll save marmol put in fox, maybe eyre, howry.
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May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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hmm ledezma was good for us
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
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May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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Reds just blew a 6 run lead in the 9th
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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You've got to be kidding
I’m tempted to put on Brennaman and hear what he’s saying. I’ll bet it isn’t pretty.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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Brennaman
Probably blaming the Cubs and there fans?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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and he'd be correct
obviously
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
May 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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just ask him.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
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May 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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Marty actually is a very good broadcaster
But he says exactly what’s on his mind. That doesn’t mean he’s always right.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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Based on what?
The tone of his voice is pleasing? He’s an overt homer, and he’s self-righteous.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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Overt homer?
Hardly. The guy rips the Reds every time it’s deserved. I was in Cincy last week for the Cubs series, and on the front of the Monday paper was a story about the Reds getting swept by the Braves. It had a quote from Brennaman that said “They might not win another game.”
I think he has a sore spot for the Cubs because he’s ticked about how they handled his son’s departure. And I think he’s become a bit of a cranky old man at the end of the road (I think he’s finished after the 2010 season). But no way in heck is he a homer.
BTW, did you know when Staats left, the Cubs approached Marty about the job? He said no, he was happy in Cincy, but his son might be interested. That’s how the Cubs got Thom.
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May 14, 2008 9:34 PM CDT
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I think we're obliged to report you to the police
It’s a crime to knowingly let someone commit suicide, right?
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The Reds are really helping out my street cred.
I was really insistent before the season that they weren’t a big threat to us in the division, and they had enough young talent that they could have strung together some early wins and made me look REALLY bad. Thanks, Dusty!
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May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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Reds were up 6-0
They’re up in the bottom of the 9th now. Tie Game.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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to the team who is getting paid less the arod a giambi all together
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May 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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No fan base, no budget, horrible stadium
but yet the Marlins front office seem to know what they are doing.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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Two World Series titles in 15 years
I’d say that’s pretty good.
But it’s another example of life being unfair.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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AT&T's "Advanced TV"
What a joke!
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Aren't you glad I didn't say orange?
What a joke!
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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I like it.
He hasn’t pitched in a couple days. He’s gotta get work. Can’t just flip a switch.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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you think lou is gonna pitch him one or two?
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one
just to stay sharp.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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But if he is only going to pitch 1 inning
Shouldn’t it be the 8th, not the 7th?
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May 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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He's getting the top of the lineup
and if he does it in few enough pitches, he’ll probably get the middle of the lineup, too.
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May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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you would think.
especially since the big guns would be the 8th.
but 3 and 4 for SD are lefties. He’ll go 1.3 and eyre goes 2/3
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That may be the case, too
If Eyre is trusted enough. I haven’t seen him pitch yet. How does he look?
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May 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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looked good last time out.
if eyre is trusted enough? we’re up 3. gotta use him sometime.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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he looks pretty good
id rather have him in the pen that marshall or fox
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May 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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If our pen has Eyre back at full strength
the pen is going to be fine this year.
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May 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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I Guess
But I get nervous having someone come in between Marmol and Wood. I don’t like the idea of Marmol handing the ball to anyone but our closer.
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May 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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that's irrational
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I'll freely admit
That I don’t have numbers to back it up. However, my thought is that Marmol is our best arm in the ‘pen. I don’t like the idea of him handing the ball to an arm that isn’t as good as his unless it is Wood coming in to close the door.
Just a gut feeling.
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May 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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i guess should save Lieber for friday when Gallagher pitches.
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btw
33K’s in 24 innings for marmol – HOLY COW!!!!!!
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He is really someting special....
Marmol shuts it down in the 7th. Strikes out the side…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
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Marmol = All Star?
Si or No?
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May 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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you mean yes or YES!
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May 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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Marmol is unreal
I saw him pitch as a starter a few years back in Colorado and he couldn’t find the strike zone with both hands. I never would have predicted this.
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seriously.
i thought he was the next angel guzman
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What ever happened to him?
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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Is he still on the DL?
I thought I heard something about him a few weeks ago.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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I think so....he is on the 40 man roster I believe
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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60-day
40 man.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT
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Thanks
Who knows when/if we’ll see him again.
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We should convert more
of our minor league catchers into pitchers.
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I'M LOOKING AT YOU, KOYIE
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
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koyie days
were painful days at the catcher spot
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by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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He can
do anything
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
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He delivered my son.
The thing is, I don’t have a son yet. He’s that amazing.
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by NittanyCub on
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He tutors me in Ethics
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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May 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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He taught mean-street thugs
in Cook County Jail to finally accept Jesus Christ.
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dude
imagine this guy as a closer – dear gawd!
but that said he is AWESOME as a fireman and woody is getting the job done
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by CubbyBlues on
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MLB.TV
Anyone else just lose their feed?
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Still working here
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How I know MLB.com's Tom Singer is full of crap:
The Cubs’ Ryan Theriot, an underrated defensive vacuum, has a .400-plus on-base percentage.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
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amazing
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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He is a vacuum.
He will suck up any baseballs you put him right on top of.
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To his credit
He made a really nasty catch tonight
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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Now the Padres announcers are blaming the ump
for all their strike outs tonight.
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May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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still doesnt beat hawk
he complains more about umps than booby cox
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May 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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Isn't Andy Mazur (sp?)
part of the Padres broadcast team now?
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by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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Yup.
He’s their Cory Provus.
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by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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I actually like Provus
much more than I did Mazur. Ha for some odd reason I remember Pat and Ron always used to rip on Andy for being ~ 37 and single.
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by Jayo525 on
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Andy Masur
A proud graduate of Bradley University in Peoria, also the home of Jack Brickhouse.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
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Ah yes..... its either the fans fault of the umps fault.... NEVER THE PLAYERS
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WP woot!
now it doesn’t matter that he didn’t get the bunt down
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The Fire would have sold out Solder Field
Just ashame no one gives a damn about Soccer :)
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Cubs lead 8-4
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
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Reed Johnson; Stud.
Be the best. No negativity, no weakness, no acquiescence to fear or disaster, no errors of ignorance, no evasion from reality. -- Jeff Buckley
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sometimes :)
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
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Sometimes.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
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moving on to the
Ted Lilly vs. Jim Edmonds watch?
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May 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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*Waiting for cwyers' updated Reed Johnson vs. Ted Lilly stats*
Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.
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He was among a plethora of outfielders...
“Jefe, what is a plethora?”
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three amigos?
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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Marmol with an at bat.... Interesting
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what is the point?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
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For him to pitch next inning as well.
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by NittanyCub on
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He'll probably pitch to the first batter in the 8th
The next two batters are lefties, so that calls for Eyre.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT
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Our pitchers actually hit pretty well..
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cwyers.....I think Reed may have taken the lead on Lilly with the double!
Felix Pie must play everyday!
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Reed took the lead his first plate appearance of the game.
I was actually a little upset when Lou had Lilly bunt because it meant that he wouldn’t have a chance to even things up.
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Pat: "Marmol has been up one time this season, and he struck out"
Ron: “yeah, he can swing the bat”
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he's already a better bunter than fontenot
MICKEY
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My boy, the the Scrappy Vacuum Cleaner
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AFLAC TRIVIA QUESTION...
No peeking.
Who was third in 2007 MVP voting among Cub players, 26th overall?
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Sori?
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DeRo?
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don't laugh
I misread the question. I thought it was 26th MVP of the team.
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Marmol
I'm kind of a big deal
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Marmol?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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Yes!
He was 2nd among relievers, behind Jose Valverde (14).
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YES!!!
Do I win something?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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That prize goes to me...
c’mon. it’s right there. Me above you. And I didn’t answer it as a Q Trebek lol
I'm kind of a big deal
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You get a one week stay at MDBNIU's house
We’re playing with “Let’s Make A Deal” prizes.
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Great, I can just see it
MDBNIU yelling, “It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again!”
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
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DT can have it.
lol
I'm kind of a big deal
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Interestingly, he was 26th for MVP of the NL, best for a Cub pitcher
And was behind Big Z in Cy Young voting.
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You don't say?
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Ron Burgundy?
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Since I was asked.
Lilly: .230/.285/.307,.592 OPS
Johnson: .256/.340/.331, .671
Johnson’s running away with it now.
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Let's enjoy having our center-fielder out hit one of our pitchers.....
....while we still can.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
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OT 4-1 Cards
over Bucs; Top 8
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Watching game on Extra Innings
Not accustomed to hearing so much whining from that analyst. Anyone else listening to him?
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LOL, just asked that above
Whiner than most and now they just called the human air raid siren a wrigley field “fixture”.... Barf
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if you had to give up one
would you give away big z or marmol?
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Is my left leg
an option
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Marmol
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only for the fact he pitches half of the innings that Z does.
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agreed
hate to consider what kind of horrific situation would lead to such a miserable day in Cubs history, but yea, you gotta stick with the Ace of your staff
I'm kind of a big deal
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My middle testicle isn't of use to me... anymore.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk


