Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 5/14, 7:05 CT
Stop this losing streak at 1!
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is that good enough for you?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT
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Well, I don tlike to complain
But a 3 run homer…..hahahaha
YES!
by Morg98 on
May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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Find it funny...
...that as Pie packs his bags for Des Moines, cubs.com is attempting to garner all-star votes for him.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT 0 recs
Why not? Edmonds could be long gone by ASB...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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GEO!!!!!!
6-3
A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou
by NIUcubbie on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT 0 recs
Jesus.. Maybe our hitting doesn’t want Edmonds on the team either.
by Schizo on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT 0 recs
not sure what the big deal is with edmonds
hes just the other end of a platoon
by bheidge on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT
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the vs. RHP end.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT
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I'd rather had Pie there
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on
May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT
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let's win this!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT 0 recs
I was wrong
on one of BM posts. It wasn’t about Pie it was Daryle Ward and it’s in the DW fanpost.
by sue369 on
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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thanks
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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hahaha that was hilarious!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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that will shush him for awhile
he’s been extremely annoying. payback’s a bitch, aint it?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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yep it is.
He tried explaining his Soriano comment and I think Hammer just showed a picture of a guy who painted himself into a corner.
by sue369 on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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It won't hurt his better than Edmonds average though
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT
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I've received at least 20 text messages
from Cardinals fans telling me how Edmonds is a washed up choke artist. I should be making fun of them about that, NOT VICE-VERSA! oh man, karma is a bit*h
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT 0 recs
You can counter that with:
Mulder,Kennedy,Clement, Izturis, Carpenter shall I name more? are washed up choke artists.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT
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don't worry... i did counter
with all of those as well as most of their starting rotation and closer lol but thanks
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on
May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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k um here we go lilly...
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT 0 recs
Why is Chad Fox on this team?
Especially when with have Pignetello and Hart.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Pignatiello
10.24 ERA at Iowa… he’s really struggling.
Agree with you about Fox, though.
by jbau on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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Fox has a nasty slider when he actually gets warmed up properly. I prefer him to Pignatiello but I’m a fan of Hart.
by Schizo on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT
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Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Chad Fox up....Lou please
...stop with the Chad Fox obsession…please.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT 0 recs
what is this shiz?!
come on lilly! and really chad fox??
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? to protect a lead?
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"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT 0 recs
Apparently Lilly's playing a different type of game
We give him a lead… and he tries to give it back.
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
by SackMan on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT 0 recs
he really ran out of gas in a hurry in the 5th...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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That Geo HR was huge 6-4
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT 0 recs
HUGE
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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What happened to the padres being terrible offensively?
by CubsBall2202 on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT 0 recs
They are
It’s not like they’re putting up a 10-spot.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Marquis and Lilly happened
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
by SackMan on
May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Sheesh Lilly..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT 0 recs
so much for the QS i mentioned
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT 0 recs
Ted Lilly happened?
The man has 10 K’s
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT 0 recs
he's gassed....this is a pure stings and mirrors right now
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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And 4 ER in less than 6 innings...
The Ks are nice, but he’s given up a bunch of hits too…
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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Two games in a row
where Lilly’s had at least 10 Ks, no?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT 0 recs
Bard is batting .211
c’mon Ted. Finish this guy and this inning
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT 0 recs
Gutty
performance
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT 0 recs
11 K's
Yet Ted Lilly happened? WTF that doesnt even make any sense.
People act like San Deigo got 15 runs that inning.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT 0 recs
You can get a lot of Ks and still have a bad start
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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Mister`
glass-half-full
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
by Reddevil on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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How is 11K'S
A bad start? Look at have Peavy Did
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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**Look at what Peavy Did***
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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Yes, Peavy had a really bad start...
Lilly had 4 really good innings and one really bad one, and did a good job of surviving what could have been the second really bad inning. Gotta look at the total package, not just the Ks.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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Yeah, but 11 Ks, 1 BB, 0 HR...
...tells me that Lilly did his job, and balls just fell in for hits against him. A pitcher normally doesn’t control his hits.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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Not saying it was a terrible start...
just saying that the 11 Ks don’t tell the whole story. He had 4 amazing innings and 1 really bad one.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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Running it through FIP-ERA...
...gives you a 0.03 ERA for that sort of a performance. Yeah, six hits – but pitchers don’t give up hits, defenses do, in my opinion.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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He had four very good innings...
and one very bad one. It’s that simple. FIP-ERA away, but he was two different pitchers tonight.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Fielding Independent Pitching.
It’s an ERA calculator that tries to see how a pitcher would perform with a neutral/average defense. The formula is:
((13HR+3BB-2*K)/IP)+3.2
It’s a quick-and-dirty way of looking at a pitcher’s results based upon the Three True Outcomes, based on the assumption that a pitcher doesn’t control how often a batted ball is turned into a out or becomes a hit.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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That should be thirteen times home runs and three times walks.
My kingdom for an escape character!
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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gotcha....
Because the only thing a pitcher controls are HR, BB, and K. How did those constants get formed?
by GoCubbies34 on
May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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A guy named Tom Tango ran a regression analysis...
...and found numbers that seemed to match up pretty well. It’s a simplified version of DIPS.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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Please stop it
It was not a “quality” start, but the bottom line is he’s leaving with a lead and is in line to get the victory.
I swear, some of you will be satisfied with nothing but 10-0 victories every night.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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Exactly
I think Lilly Pitched well, hit his spots got into some jams, but he has the lead.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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Don't tell me what to do...
I’m not a negative fan. Your militant attitude is annoying.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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So...
“please stop it”=militant.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Please review his post history...
This is not limited to this one post.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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I know sometimes things get out of hand in here...
...but at the same time, nobody’s spouting masses of obscenities or being downright unbearable, and people can go ahead and vent now and again.
I view this chat as a virtual bleachers or a sports bar – you want to go ahead and keep it to where people can come in and enjoy themselves, but you get a lot of in-the-moment reaction. And I think you can go overboard the other direction as well.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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Agree....and the in the moment reactions are part of the deal
...everyone reacts a little differently to what is happening in the game…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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To clarify...
I was not venting. I’m very happy we’re winning. I was just pointing out that the 11 Ks aren’t the entire story. That’s why I was so annoyed by Not Bruce Froemming’s comment.
by SouthernCub on
May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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As you said yourself, though...
...this is part of a larger pattern of behavior for NBF, and that’s what I was addressing. Sorry if that was unclear.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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No apologies
When a guy strikes out 11 and all someone wants to do is point out the runs he allowed - in a game he’s leading - that’s ridiculous.
And if you don’t like my “pattern of behavior,” talk to Al. I’ve got a few people whose “pattern of behavior” I’m not thrilled about, either.
by Not Bruce Froemming on
May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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