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Stop this losing streak at 1!

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is that good enough for you?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I don tlike to complain

But a 3 run homer…..hahahaha
YES!

by Morg98 on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Find it funny...

...that as Pie packs his bags for Des Moines, cubs.com is attempting to garner all-star votes for him.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT   0 recs

Why not? Edmonds could be long gone by ASB...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

HOMERUN

by Schizo on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT   0 recs

GEO!!!!!!

6-3

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT   0 recs

I heard this lineup is broken.

Geovany heard otherwise.

by DGU on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT   0 recs

Jesus.. Maybe our hitting doesn’t want Edmonds on the team either.

by Schizo on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT   0 recs

not sure what the big deal is with edmonds

hes just the other end of a platoon

by bheidge on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the vs. RHP end.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd rather had Pie there

Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.

by Bricks and Ivy on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

let's win this!

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT   0 recs

I was wrong

on one of BM posts. It wasn’t about Pie it was Daryle Ward and it’s in the DW fanpost.

by sue369 on May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha that was hilarious!

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought

youwould enjoy it.

by sue369 on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that will shush him for awhile

he’s been extremely annoying. payback’s a bitch, aint it?

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yep it is.

He tried explaining his Soriano comment and I think Hammer just showed a picture of a guy who painted himself into a corner.

by sue369 on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn it.

Lou took the bat out of Lilly’s hands!

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT   0 recs

It won't hurt his better than Edmonds average though

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've received at least 20 text messages

from Cardinals fans telling me how Edmonds is a washed up choke artist. I should be making fun of them about that, NOT VICE-VERSA! oh man, karma is a bit*h

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT   0 recs

You can counter that with:

Mulder,Kennedy,Clement, Izturis, Carpenter shall I name more? are washed up choke artists.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

don't worry... i did counter

with all of those as well as most of their starting rotation and closer lol but thanks

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

k um here we go lilly...

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT   0 recs

Lilly's on thin ice

Foxx getting his walking arm loose

by Itchy on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT   0 recs

Why is Chad Fox on this team?

Especially when with have Pignetello and Hart.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Pignatiello

10.24 ERA at Iowa… he’s really struggling.

Agree with you about Fox, though.

by jbau on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fox has a nasty slider when he actually gets warmed up properly. I prefer him to Pignatiello but I’m a fan of Hart.

by Schizo on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mann what is going on

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Mann what is going on

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Chad Fox up....Lou please

...stop with the Chad Fox obsession…please.

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Tying run at bat

Lilly’s done!!!

by Itchy on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT   0 recs

what is this shiz?!

come on lilly! and really chad fox?????? to protect a lead?????

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT   0 recs

Apparently Lilly's playing a different type of game

We give him a lead… and he tries to give it back.

Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008

by SackMan on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT   0 recs

That Geo HR was huge 6-4

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT   0 recs

HUGE

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sac fly 6-4

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT   0 recs

Marquis and Lilly happened

Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008

by SackMan on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sheesh Lilly..

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT   0 recs

so much for the QS i mentioned

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT   0 recs

Ted Lilly happened?

The man has 10 K’s

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT   0 recs

And 4 ER in less than 6 innings...

The Ks are nice, but he’s given up a bunch of hits too…

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Two games in a row

where Lilly’s had at least 10 Ks, no?

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT   0 recs

indeed

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bard is batting .211

c’mon Ted. Finish this guy and this inning

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT   0 recs

GOT EM! 11Ks

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Gutty

performance

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT   0 recs

11 K's

Yet Ted Lilly happened? WTF that doesnt even make any sense.

People act like San Deigo got 15 runs that inning.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Mister`

glass-half-full

"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin

by Reddevil on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How is 11K'S

A bad start? Look at have Peavy Did

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

**Look at what Peavy Did***

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, Peavy had a really bad start...

Lilly had 4 really good innings and one really bad one, and did a good job of surviving what could have been the second really bad inning. Gotta look at the total package, not just the Ks.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but 11 Ks, 1 BB, 0 HR...

...tells me that Lilly did his job, and balls just fell in for hits against him. A pitcher normally doesn’t control his hits.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not saying it was a terrible start...

just saying that the 11 Ks don’t tell the whole story. He had 4 amazing innings and 1 really bad one.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Running it through FIP-ERA...

...gives you a 0.03 ERA for that sort of a performance. Yeah, six hits – but pitchers don’t give up hits, defenses do, in my opinion.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He had four very good innings...

and one very bad one. It’s that simple. FIP-ERA away, but he was two different pitchers tonight.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fielding Independent Pitching.

It’s an ERA calculator that tries to see how a pitcher would perform with a neutral/average defense. The formula is:

((13HR+3BB-2*K)/IP)+3.2

It’s a quick-and-dirty way of looking at a pitcher’s results based upon the Three True Outcomes, based on the assumption that a pitcher doesn’t control how often a batted ball is turned into a out or becomes a hit.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

gotcha....

Because the only thing a pitcher controls are HR, BB, and K. How did those constants get formed?

by GoCubbies34 on May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A guy named Tom Tango ran a regression analysis...

...and found numbers that seemed to match up pretty well. It’s a simplified version of DIPS.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Please stop it

It was not a “quality” start, but the bottom line is he’s leaving with a lead and is in line to get the victory.

I swear, some of you will be satisfied with nothing but 10-0 victories every night.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

I think Lilly Pitched well, hit his spots got into some jams, but he has the lead.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't tell me what to do...

I’m not a negative fan. Your militant attitude is annoying.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So...

“please stop it”=militant.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Please review his post history...

This is not limited to this one post.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know sometimes things get out of hand in here...

...but at the same time, nobody’s spouting masses of obscenities or being downright unbearable, and people can go ahead and vent now and again.

I view this chat as a virtual bleachers or a sports bar – you want to go ahead and keep it to where people can come in and enjoy themselves, but you get a lot of in-the-moment reaction. And I think you can go overboard the other direction as well.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree....and the in the moment reactions are part of the deal

...everyone reacts a little differently to what is happening in the game…

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

To clarify...

I was not venting. I’m very happy we’re winning. I was just pointing out that the 11 Ks aren’t the entire story. That’s why I was so annoyed by Not Bruce Froemming’s comment.

by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As you said yourself, though...

...this is part of a larger pattern of behavior for NBF, and that’s what I was addressing. Sorry if that was unclear.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No apologies

When a guy strikes out 11 and all someone wants to do is point out the runs he allowed - in a game he’s leading - that’s ridiculous.

And if you don’t like my “pattern of behavior,” talk to Al. I’ve got a few people whose “pattern of behavior” I’m not thrilled about, either.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs