Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 5/14, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 14, 2008 8:31 PM CDT
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Well, I don tlike to complain
But a 3 run homer…..hahahaha
YES!
Find it funny...
...that as Pie packs his bags for Des Moines, cubs.com is attempting to garner all-star votes for him.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
the vs. RHP end.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I'd rather had Pie there
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha that was hilarious!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
that will shush him for awhile
he’s been extremely annoying. payback’s a bitch, aint it?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
yep it is.
He tried explaining his Soriano comment and I think Hammer just showed a picture of a guy who painted himself into a corner.
It won't hurt his better than Edmonds average though
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I've received at least 20 text messages
from Cardinals fans telling me how Edmonds is a washed up choke artist. I should be making fun of them about that, NOT VICE-VERSA! oh man, karma is a bit*h
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
You can counter that with:
Mulder,Kennedy,Clement, Izturis, Carpenter shall I name more? are washed up choke artists.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
don't worry... i did counter
with all of those as well as most of their starting rotation and closer lol but thanks
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
k um here we go lilly...
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Why is Chad Fox on this team?
Especially when with have Pignetello and Hart.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Mann what is going on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
what is this shiz?!
come on lilly! and really chad fox??
?
?
?
? to protect a lead?
?
?
?
?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Apparently Lilly's playing a different type of game
We give him a lead… and he tries to give it back.
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
That Geo HR was huge 6-4
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
HUGE
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
They are
It’s not like they’re putting up a 10-spot.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis and Lilly happened
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
so much for the QS i mentioned
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Ted Lilly happened?
The man has 10 K’s
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
And 4 ER in less than 6 innings...
The Ks are nice, but he’s given up a bunch of hits too…
Two games in a row
where Lilly’s had at least 10 Ks, no?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
Bard is batting .211
c’mon Ted. Finish this guy and this inning
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Gutty
performance
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
11 K's
Yet Ted Lilly happened? WTF that doesnt even make any sense.
People act like San Deigo got 15 runs that inning.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Mister`
glass-half-full
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
How is 11K'S
A bad start? Look at have Peavy Did
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
**Look at what Peavy Did***
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Yes, Peavy had a really bad start...
Lilly had 4 really good innings and one really bad one, and did a good job of surviving what could have been the second really bad inning. Gotta look at the total package, not just the Ks.
Yeah, but 11 Ks, 1 BB, 0 HR...
...tells me that Lilly did his job, and balls just fell in for hits against him. A pitcher normally doesn’t control his hits.
Not saying it was a terrible start...
just saying that the 11 Ks don’t tell the whole story. He had 4 amazing innings and 1 really bad one.
Running it through FIP-ERA...
...gives you a 0.03 ERA for that sort of a performance. Yeah, six hits – but pitchers don’t give up hits, defenses do, in my opinion.
He had four very good innings...
and one very bad one. It’s that simple. FIP-ERA away, but he was two different pitchers tonight.
Fielding Independent Pitching.
It’s an ERA calculator that tries to see how a pitcher would perform with a neutral/average defense. The formula is:
((13HR+3BB-2*K)/IP)+3.2
It’s a quick-and-dirty way of looking at a pitcher’s results based upon the Three True Outcomes, based on the assumption that a pitcher doesn’t control how often a batted ball is turned into a out or becomes a hit.
gotcha....
Because the only thing a pitcher controls are HR, BB, and K. How did those constants get formed?
A guy named Tom Tango ran a regression analysis...
...and found numbers that seemed to match up pretty well. It’s a simplified version of DIPS.
Please stop it
It was not a “quality” start, but the bottom line is he’s leaving with a lead and is in line to get the victory.
I swear, some of you will be satisfied with nothing but 10-0 victories every night.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't tell me what to do...
I’m not a negative fan. Your militant attitude is annoying.
So...
“please stop it”=militant.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Please review his post history...
This is not limited to this one post.
I know sometimes things get out of hand in here...
...but at the same time, nobody’s spouting masses of obscenities or being downright unbearable, and people can go ahead and vent now and again.
I view this chat as a virtual bleachers or a sports bar – you want to go ahead and keep it to where people can come in and enjoy themselves, but you get a lot of in-the-moment reaction. And I think you can go overboard the other direction as well.
Agree....and the in the moment reactions are part of the deal
...everyone reacts a little differently to what is happening in the game…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
To clarify...
I was not venting. I’m very happy we’re winning. I was just pointing out that the 11 Ks aren’t the entire story. That’s why I was so annoyed by Not Bruce Froemming’s comment.
As you said yourself, though...
...this is part of a larger pattern of behavior for NBF, and that’s what I was addressing. Sorry if that was unclear.
No apologies
When a guy strikes out 11 and all someone wants to do is point out the runs he allowed - in a game he’s leading - that’s ridiculous.
And if you don’t like my “pattern of behavior,” talk to Al. I’ve got a few people whose “pattern of behavior” I’m not thrilled about, either.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Take it in context man...
Sheesh. I wasn’t complaining. Just pointing out facts. You’re so wrapped up in attacking anyone who says anything remotely not positive that you have no concept of rational debate.
Not remotely not positive
Anything that’s relentlessly negative, particularly when there’s no reason to be.
Let’s chill, OK?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing I said was relentlessly negative...
yet you jumped on me. that was my point.
Your attitude is basically think like you do
or get out of here… or please stop it as you said. Thats what rubs folks the wrong way.
by LT on May 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, no apologies
But I did say “Please,” after all. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry for misreading...
Thanks for the statement.
Seriously Guys
I think I was the one who made light of people talking about Ted Lilly’s start, I didnt want to start a flame war or anything.
Lets not get into an arguement over stupid stuff.
Lets just sit back relax and enjoy what hopefully will be a Cubs Win!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Totally in agreeance
Let’s buckle down and get this victory, eh?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
What a performance by Lilly
Didn’t have his greatest stuff the past two innings but got the job done.
Well done, Bull Moose.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
he is battlin
one tough inning give the guy a break – he is improving and has always been a bulldog
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
The single machine
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Pat says
Theriot is tied w/ Chipper and Utley for most multi-hit games at 18
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
that is incredible
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
That's like
one of those crazy stats you read about when some guy is in the middle of a list that has Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio, etc. on it. Like its a game to figure out which name doesn’t fit.
Fox
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Eyre or Fox
not Marmol time yet.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Let's score some more, so we can save Marmol
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Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
I hope Marmol time doesn't come tonight
Try to save his arm as much as possible
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
i see the logic
but i feel like he is just a horse and that it doesn’t matter how many innings he throws
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
I think he is too
but I think its good to be cautious with our best pitching weapon. I know a win is a win, but San Diego’s offense sucks, trot out some of our other BP guys. I just think we should, in the early goings, save Marmol’s arm as much as possible.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
D LEE
0 for 4 tonight. Why not hit and run with the riot to try to get him goin? what happened to us being aggressive? ah well, we’re scoring runs rampantly so i’ll shut up now. lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
lee is just off
he will be fine but he’s struggling right now – good to see everyone picking him up
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
agreed
just a suggestion. open up some holes in the infield u know. As i said, we’re scoring runs from everywhere in the line-up so it’s all good. When he comes back…look out
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
thats the great thing about having so many good hitters in the lineup
...you dont even really notice he is 0-4 tonight.. Lee was hot when Sori was cold and now he is paying him back
Felix Pie must play everyday!
When you have a hitter like Lee...
...what you do is you let him go to the plate and do his job, and at the end of the season the results will have been there. Nobody needs to get him going. He’s a professional hitter.
the MOST professional
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Haha
Santo is asking Pat how he used to call Goals when he did Soccer games…Did you say “It could be it might be YES?”
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
hmm ledezma was good for us
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Reds just blew a 6 run lead in the 9th
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
You've got to be kidding
I’m tempted to put on Brennaman and hear what he’s saying. I’ll bet it isn’t pretty.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Brennaman
Probably blaming the Cubs and there fans?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
just ask him.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Marty actually is a very good broadcaster
But he says exactly what’s on his mind. That doesn’t mean he’s always right.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on what?
The tone of his voice is pleasing? He’s an overt homer, and he’s self-righteous.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Overt homer?
Hardly. The guy rips the Reds every time it’s deserved. I was in Cincy last week for the Cubs series, and on the front of the Monday paper was a story about the Reds getting swept by the Braves. It had a quote from Brennaman that said “They might not win another game.”
I think he has a sore spot for the Cubs because he’s ticked about how they handled his son’s departure. And I think he’s become a bit of a cranky old man at the end of the road (I think he’s finished after the 2010 season). But no way in heck is he a homer.
BTW, did you know when Staats left, the Cubs approached Marty about the job? He said no, he was happy in Cincy, but his son might be interested. That’s how the Cubs got Thom.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we're obliged to report you to the police
It’s a crime to knowingly let someone commit suicide, right?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
The Reds are really helping out my street cred.
I was really insistent before the season that they weren’t a big threat to us in the division, and they had enough young talent that they could have strung together some early wins and made me look REALLY bad. Thanks, Dusty!
Reds were up 6-0
They’re up in the bottom of the 9th now. Tie Game.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
No fan base, no budget, horrible stadium
but yet the Marlins front office seem to know what they are doing.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Two World Series titles in 15 years
I’d say that’s pretty good.
But it’s another example of life being unfair.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
AT&T's "Advanced TV"
What a joke!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Aren't you glad I didn't say orange?
What a joke!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I like it.
He hasn’t pitched in a couple days. He’s gotta get work. Can’t just flip a switch.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
one
just to stay sharp.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
But if he is only going to pitch 1 inning
Shouldn’t it be the 8th, not the 7th?
He's getting the top of the lineup
and if he does it in few enough pitches, he’ll probably get the middle of the lineup, too.
you would think.
especially since the big guns would be the 8th.
but 3 and 4 for SD are lefties. He’ll go 1.3 and eyre goes 2/3
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
That may be the case, too
If Eyre is trusted enough. I haven’t seen him pitch yet. How does he look?
looked good last time out.
if eyre is trusted enough? we’re up 3. gotta use him sometime.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I Guess
But I get nervous having someone come in between Marmol and Wood. I don’t like the idea of Marmol handing the ball to anyone but our closer.
that's irrational
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I'll freely admit
That I don’t have numbers to back it up. However, my thought is that Marmol is our best arm in the ‘pen. I don’t like the idea of him handing the ball to an arm that isn’t as good as his unless it is Wood coming in to close the door.
Just a gut feeling.
btw
33K’s in 24 innings for marmol – HOLY COW!!!!!!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
He is really someting special....
Marmol shuts it down in the 7th. Strikes out the side…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Marmol = All Star?
Si or No?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
you mean yes or YES!
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Marmol is unreal
I saw him pitch as a starter a few years back in Colorado and he couldn’t find the strike zone with both hands. I never would have predicted this.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
seriously.
i thought he was the next angel guzman
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
What ever happened to him?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Is he still on the DL?
I thought I heard something about him a few weeks ago.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
60-day
40 man.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Thanks
Who knows when/if we’ll see him again.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
We should convert more
of our minor league catchers into pitchers.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I'M LOOKING AT YOU, KOYIE
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
koyie days
were painful days at the catcher spot
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
He can
do anything
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
He delivered my son.
The thing is, I don’t have a son yet. He’s that amazing.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
He taught mean-street thugs
in Cook County Jail to finally accept Jesus Christ.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
dude
imagine this guy as a closer – dear gawd!
but that said he is AWESOME as a fireman and woody is getting the job done
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Still working here
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
How I know MLB.com's Tom Singer is full of crap:
The Cubs’ Ryan Theriot, an underrated defensive vacuum, has a .400-plus on-base percentage.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
amazing
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
To his credit
He made a really nasty catch tonight
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Isn't Andy Mazur (sp?)
part of the Padres broadcast team now?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Yup.
He’s their Cory Provus.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I actually like Provus
much more than I did Mazur. Ha for some odd reason I remember Pat and Ron always used to rip on Andy for being ~ 37 and single.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Andy Masur
A proud graduate of Bradley University in Peoria, also the home of Jack Brickhouse.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah yes..... its either the fans fault of the umps fault.... NEVER THE PLAYERS
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
WP woot!
now it doesn’t matter that he didn’t get the bunt down
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
The Fire would have sold out Solder Field
Just ashame no one gives a damn about Soccer :)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Reed Johnson; Stud.
Be the best. No negativity, no weakness, no acquiescence to fear or disaster, no errors of ignorance, no evasion from reality. -- Jeff Buckley
sometimes :)
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
*Waiting for cwyers' updated Reed Johnson vs. Ted Lilly stats*
Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.
He was among a plethora of outfielders...
“Jefe, what is a plethora?”
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Marmol with an at bat.... Interesting
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
what is the point?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
For him to pitch next inning as well.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
He'll probably pitch to the first batter in the 8th
The next two batters are lefties, so that calls for Eyre.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
cwyers.....I think Reed may have taken the lead on Lilly with the double!
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Reed took the lead his first plate appearance of the game.
I was actually a little upset when Lou had Lilly bunt because it meant that he wouldn’t have a chance to even things up.
Pat: "Marmol has been up one time this season, and he struck out"
Ron: “yeah, he can swing the bat”
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
My boy, the the Scrappy Vacuum Cleaner
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
AFLAC TRIVIA QUESTION...
No peeking.
Who was third in 2007 MVP voting among Cub players, 26th overall?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Sori?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
don't laugh
I misread the question. I thought it was 26th MVP of the team.
Yes!
He was 2nd among relievers, behind Jose Valverde (14).
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
That prize goes to me...
c’mon. it’s right there. Me above you. And I didn’t answer it as a Q Trebek lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You get a one week stay at MDBNIU's house
We’re playing with “Let’s Make A Deal” prizes.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Great, I can just see it
MDBNIU yelling, “It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again!”
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
DT can have it.
lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Interestingly, he was 26th for MVP of the NL, best for a Cub pitcher
And was behind Big Z in Cy Young voting.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Ron Burgundy?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Since I was asked.
Lilly: .230/.285/.307,.592 OPS
Johnson: .256/.340/.331, .671
Johnson’s running away with it now.
Let's enjoy having our center-fielder out hit one of our pitchers.....
....while we still can.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
OT 4-1 Cards
over Bucs; Top 8
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Watching game on Extra Innings
Not accustomed to hearing so much whining from that analyst. Anyone else listening to him?
LOL, just asked that above
Whiner than most and now they just called the human air raid siren a wrigley field “fixture”.... Barf
by LT on May 14, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Is my left leg
an option
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Marmol
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
only for the fact he pitches half of the innings that Z does.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
agreed
hate to consider what kind of horrific situation would lead to such a miserable day in Cubs history, but yea, you gotta stick with the Ace of your staff
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My middle testicle isn't of use to me... anymore.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Felix
would like a word w/ you
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Hahahaha
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
According to ESPN
Marmol has thrown 21 pitches total
7
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Lou being asked about Edmonds...
“What did Jim (Hendry) say? Whatever Jim said is fine with me”...lol..
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
that would be 3 up 3 down....
on to cubs half of the 8th…...
GoCubsGo
Marmol
Has thrown 21 pitches in 2 innings, 16 of them for strikes
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
ManLee is really pressing right now
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
maybe
we can get Choi back.
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
blasphemy!
lol no really
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Was Eyre even up in the pen?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Who comes in in the 9th?
Save Wood for tomorrow, I would think.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
But I guess he's up in the bullpen
So much for that idea.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Let Marmol pitch left-handed.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
yeah
i guess the argument would be “wood needs regular work”
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
I suppose.
Why don’t we just go to an 8 man pitching staff and get it over with?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Yeah.
If you have so many problems getting guys work, then having so many “waste” pitchers on the roster doesn’t help anything.
When did Fox work last?
Did he pitch last night or Monday?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
I thought after Dusty abused him against the Reds that Fox’s career was over. I’m glad to see he’s back, but he needs to be used judiciously.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Last Sunday, against Arizona
Gave up no runs in 1.2 innings.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
technically...he inherited the bases loaded and proceeded to walk the two runs in...
Felix Pie must play everyday!
You really have to judge a reliever by their ability to keep inherited runners from scoring...
...because that’s their job. It’s why ERA is such a poor metric for evaluating relievers.
That's the absolute opposite definition of the word "technically"
You’re looking for “realistically.”
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Use him tomorrow
I’m thinking we’ll need him tomorrow to close. Guess we’ll see.
Cubs bullpen hasn't given up a run
in 17 straight innings, approaching 6 consecutive games
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Does anything feel better
than having a solid bullpen?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Well, here's hoping
The Cubs pen doesn’t pull a Reds tonight and gets this one done quickly.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of which....
Reds won in 10. Sweep, I believe?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Four-game series
They have a lunchtime game tomorrow.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I took a cold shower after a long game of softball today
That was pretty nice but sure I’ll go w/ Solid Bullpen
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I really am curious to see how a top-shelf softball pitcher like her...
...would do against MLB pitching. The thing is, there’s absolutely no data on earth that would provide us with any sort of an indicator.
which is why we should try it out
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Who is she?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Pitcher for the U.S. softball team
She might even be better than Jennie Finch.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
the basic problem is
that her motion is very different than a hardball pitcher. She throws 63 with lots of motion but from a much shorter distance. But she is one of the best of what she does. I’d be interested in seeing her pitch against male softball players. And I don’t mean Chicago style slow pitch.
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that a problem?
It actually could help her out, the same way that submariners and knuckleballers are helped by throwing off the natural timing of the hitter.
Now, if EVERYBODY in MLB threw that style, they’d probably get lit up. But as a short reliever, and as a one-of-a-kind? Might get by on the “gimmick” alone.
giggidy giggidy
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Retracted...
He’s not fine. Why is he pitching in a non save situation.
Who's pitching?
I’m too lazy to turn my head
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
wow this is why
you wait for save situations
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Wood hasn't done so hot in those, either.
He’s only converted two out of four of his one-run saves. He’s converted all of his three-run saves, which helps his numbers a bit.
Is it a WP
if they don’t advance?
"When you have a fat friend there are no see-saws, only catapults." --Demetri Martin
Nobody's perfect
But this is getting a little too close for comfort.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
At least he's topping the radar gun
His last fastball was clocked at 95.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
There's no need.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
sweet now we can get a double play!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
serenity now!!
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
SEINFELD!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
that sets up the double play
or a grand slam.:-(
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
If it makes us feel any better, the Brewers just blew a save....
and no it wasn’t Gagne, it was his replacement, Mota
by philadelphiacub on May 14, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
Gagne got the save last night.
Officially a closer by committee situation. Fantasy baseball players everywhere are pissed at Yost.
The Crew is in serious trouble
They have no real closer and their starting pitching, except for Sheets, is as thin as water.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Iguchi scares m,e
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
THANK YOU
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Well, shit.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
there goes the scoreless streak...
buckle down Kerry.
Why does this have to be so damn difficult?
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
It was getting too easy
Gotta live a little dangerously sometimes.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood giving us his Mr Hyde performance tonight...
hopefully he can hang on…
They're not good for my anxiety.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
im taking aspirin
to thin the blood
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
We win!
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Cubs win! JYEAH!
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
That's better
Who closes tomorrow, if necessary?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply actions
Wood...
he didn’t pitch yesterday, right?
by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but how many
pitches did he throw tonight?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That's probably borderline
Here’s hoping the Cubs beat up on Maddux tomorrow and we don’t have to worry about it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Northsider
This is a great addition to BCB.
I hope your fingers fall off from loading it so many times!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Thank friggin god!
Cubs 2008 (23-15)
Home (15-6) | Road (8-9) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 12, 2008
whew.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
WOW
so is this a save now?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
no
you can’t create a save opportunity for yourself.
by SouthernCub on May 14, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No
You can’t pitch yourself into a save situation.
Now, if Wood came out and, say, Howry came in and got the last out, he would have gotten a save.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
gotcha
damn, cuz now this just hurts my fantasy team
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
John Dewan said on Murph the other day
that only like 60% of saves are converted. Doesn’t that sound low? But the guy does it for aliving, so I guess I gotta believe him
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on May 14, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
In other news:
Dodgers piling it on the Brewers, putting 3 runs in 9th.
Dodgers 6, Brewers 4
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Is that Bruce Froemming?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I resemble that remark :)
I was listening to the Brewers game last week and heard Froemming doing an ad for a nursing home. I almost threw up all over myself.
I’ve hated that jerk since Pappas’ no-hitter in 1972.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice play on words
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
He sure did
Pappas still is ticked about it.
Froemming spent 35 years screwing the Cubs every chance he got.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Sexist too, right?
In fact, I think he was sexist/racist/anti-semitic all to the same person.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like closers in the NL Central
Are having a rough go of it. By comparison, Wood is Mariano Rivera.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
yeah woody has been fine
i mean for his first year as closer, he has been pretty awesome. really only two bad outings (both against brew crew at home) plus a couple runs here and there (like tonight)
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
where can we see the press conference?
sox are on csn and lou was supposed to talk about Edmonds
Counsel K'd
1 out
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Kaplan gone
2 outs.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
good night all -- good win (taking out Peavy like that)
this is our last night of sleep without Jim Edmonds in a Cubs lineup. Perhaps I won’t wake up and I”m wondering if it’s a good thing or a bad thing. Ah well… like sands through the hourglass….
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
The one good thing about getting Edmonds
is that it pisses Lance off!
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
And
He can’t be worse than Don Landrum. Can he?
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Dodgers out-gun the Brewers
Wakka wakka.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Juan Pierre of all people drives in the winning runs
Pierre gets 3 hits today to power the Dodgers past the Brewers.
I think Prince needs to eat some more meat.
Maybe Edmonds will open
a restaurant in Chicago like he did in STL. Because I think we can all agree Chicago needs another over-priced, upscale sports oriented establishment with sub-par service and even worse food. lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
How many ex-Cardinals own restaurants in STL now?
Ozzie … Shannon … Hrabosky … Jack Buck … Edmonds …
Anybody else?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey you leave Mike Ditka out of this
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Don't know if it was mentioned
but was Edmonds signed anytime during the game?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Happened around 5:30
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Nevermind
Hendry on the air right now….”Edmonds will suit up tomorrow. I talked to Felix….blah blah blah” IT’S HERE!
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
"hopefully Jimmy's got something left"
Way to set expectations, Hendry!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
pending the results of the physical i believe --but that should have been way over by now
and has anybody ever not passed a MLB physical in this millenium? If six-fingered kazimotos can pass…..
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
But I can’t remember who.
by bubbamike the one and only on May 14, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Roger 'the Roid Rage' Wilson
nope i’m sorry… he passed too
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i believe..
sindey ponson did a couple seasons ago.
Edmonds: Couldn't hurt, might help
Personally, I would have stuck with Pie, but I’m guessing Lou/Hendry know something about him that we don’t.
And if Edmonds sucks, he won’t be here long.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
LSA..
I think everyone is freaking out and making this a big deal!
His Cardinals connection probably is why
I hated him when he was in STL. And I still think he’s a jerk. But now he’s our jerk, so …
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 14, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Lou wanted Edmonds
a bit more than Hendry. Citing Mark O’neil and and Marquis as points of reference for Edmonds don’t really help his credibility as a player IMO
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Both
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
O'Neil used to be
the CArdinals trainer and obviously Marquis was his teammate there too.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Lou said he hadn't seen him play and hadn't really looked at the scouting.
He probably told Hendry he wanted SOMEBODY and trusted Hendry to bring in what he could.
It's only going to cost around 284,000 as well.
And, if he sucks, he’ll probably get to see if the Iowa unis bring out his eyes.
Or just get dumped. Ugh, Edmonds. I hope that, if this doesn’t work out, this lights the proverbial fire up Pie’s ass to start hitting more efficiently(or for Piniella to give him more consistent PT).
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Good to hear Hendry re: Pie
He’s 23 and needs regular ABs. If he’s not getting them here, he needs to be at AAA.
Hope we can keep with Felix for a little while longer.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
God I hope he's a starter 2 months from now.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
I'm praying u r right
It will be interesting to see how many times Edmonds legs out an infield hit or stretches a single into a double. Or steals a base, or puts down a sac bunt. Or doesn’t dive for a flyball because he ran underneath it. I could go on and on….
I’m hoping all this ragging on Edmonds will come back to haunt me and he’s a stud in CF for a few months. But even I can write the scouting report for opposing pitchers on Edmonds: High Heat.
ugh alright I’m done with this topic. Time to start cheering for the guy, starting tomorrow when I wake up. lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 14, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Why am I listening to Milt Rosenberg?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
press conference over?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Because..
You have insomnia?..:)
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on May 14, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So I tuned into CSN in hopes of seeing SportsNite...
...and instead am greeted by Hawk and DJ talking about players trying to “make adjustments and do the little things to get things going again.” Yay! And then I heard one of them say the STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD ON TELEVISION:
“What I’d like to see is a guy who’s struggling at the plate just throw himself in front of a pitch. Just… go up there and throw himself over the heart of the plate, and say ‘I slipped’ and take his base.”
No you would not! No you would not want to see anyone do this ever. There’s absolutely no way that you would get a free base out of that. What you could get was DEATH. Death or absurdly serious head injuries.
Stupid, stupid, STUPID.
Want to post this here also because i feel strongly about it but here is m OP on #15
I feel like i am living in the twilight zone… I am legitimately excited about Jim Edmonds coming aboard. This is a guy that I have hated since he became a red bird when i was in eighth grade. Eight years later IF he has something left in the tank (which both our scouts and Greg maddux think he does) this is the type of upgrade that could do wonders for our ball club.
Do not be surprised if tomorrow Dome is hitting second where he should be and Edmonds is hitting fifth. THis will help Aramis and Lee (who is slumping) by putting an OBP machine in front of them. I think this will really help our offense. We were not going to play Pie anyway for whatever reason so this transaction needed to happen. We paid him 284,000 for one year. and if it doesnt work we will cut and run and never look back. There is only positives in this. Except for if Carlos punches him in the eye. I am about to link two articles. The first of which is the one which talks about why we are signing him and the second of which is the players reactions….
On another note I love Lou and Hendry but I think they have really mis managed Pie… This is pathetic that we are sending him to AAA. At least there though he can hit consistently and hopefully get his stroke back….
It pains me to say this but can we please give #15 a chance…. ANd by a chance i mean a 2 week stretch…. That is all. I respect peoples differences. But lets give it a chance.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....,1201644.story
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....,1070338.story
PEace Love and Cubs WIN!!!!!!!!
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
also "the employee" is out until at least the all star break
i was worried about him coming back and being maddux but i doubt he will ever pitch meaninfully again
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
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