Open Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 5/14, 7:05 CT
by Al
on May 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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San Diego @ Chicago
Good news: No rain in the forecast!
Bad news: Chilly temperatures in the forecast.
We have been having a lot of discussions here recently about acquisitions, trades, etc. and how they are made, and what sorts of discussions go on in front offices. SBN's Twins blogger Jesse Lund has some answers for us in this interview he recently did with Twins assistant GM Rob Antony. Most of it has to do with Twins players, but you can also get some insight into the thought processes that go on in MLB front offices.
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Just looking at these pitchers' overall records, you'd think this was a mismatch. But under the category of "What have you done for me lately", let's look at their last four starts:
Peavy: 1-2, 4.01 ERA, 24.2 IP, 4 HR
Lilly: 3-1, 2.42 ERA, 26 IP, 3 HR
So, Lilly's hot, and Peavy's not. Peavy is 2-0, 2.10 in five career starts vs. the Cubs, and handles everyone on the current roster pretty well. Lilly is 3-0, 0.77 in his three career starts against the Padres (discounting this pounding the Padres gave him in relief on September 9, 1999, when he was a 23-year-old rookie for the Expos, his fifth major league appearance.
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"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT
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Yeppers
I will be blacked out….
"I’ll try to do anything to win a game." - My Man....BIG Z
by akbeck98 on May 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT 0 recs
PEAVY
Light em up
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 14, 2008 3:51 PM CDT 0 recs
5th post
10 more till Edmond’s number!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 3:53 PM CDT 0 recs
Hopefully its his number of homeruns
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 14, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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You realize of course...
that this Edmonds move is just one more piece of the puzzle that Hendry needs to trade for Brian Roberts.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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and to get ken griffey
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 14, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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"I've figured out a way
to get Griffey AND Bonds in the same outfield…and it wouldn’t cost us that much!”
That’s some Costanzian thinking if I’ve ever heard it.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on
May 14, 2008 4:27 PM CDT
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nice
i love any seinfeld reference
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 6:06 PM CDT
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Lefty-righty; who cares?
Why is Lou making such a big deal of acquiring a Lefty OF? People put too much emphasis on left-right matchups. I say: WHO CARES?? Willie May was a righty and nobody platooned him with lefty. If a guy can hit ML pitching, just keep him in the lineup.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on May 14, 2008 3:57 PM CDT 0 recs
Lou thinks that the lack of lefty bats in the lineup
is allowing pitchers to get strikes called off the plate in the lefty’s batter’s box. Derrek Lee sees they are off the plate and stands there getting called out on “strikes.” Lou thinks that if you sandwich Lee and Rami between lefty bats, pitchers won’t work on that corner so often and Lee will hit better.
by DGU on
May 14, 2008 4:00 PM CDT
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Lou's Overly Concerned
Okay, having a LH bat with pop between D-Lee and A-Ram would be nice. In the late innings, the opposing team might switch between RHP and LHP between AB’s and burn through its bullpen to counter D-Lee, LH hitter, and A-Ram. However, a batter’s hitting ability is far more important than whether he bats lefty or righty. Let’s hope that the 2008 version of Edmonds fills the LH power hitter bill. I have my doubts, though.
by memphiscub on
May 14, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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Edmonds will most likely take Dome's place in the lineup...
...like so:
Soriano
Dome
Lee
Ramirez
Edmonds
Soto
DeRosa
Theriot
Pitcher
With this lineup, I so badly want to flip Theriot and the pitcher around that I can almost taste it, but what are you going to do, right?
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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If this is what is was going to take to get Dome batting higher...
it may just be worth it after all.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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Agreed
lou has said all he needed was a lefty power bat. I supposed Edmunds has to be that
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
May 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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Brenly said the same thing on the radio today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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So
Edmonds isn’t in the lineup tonight? :)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 14, 2008 3:57 PM CDT 0 recs
al
is there anyway hendry gives you a interview like this?? i wanna know more of the behind the scenes stuff. maybe focus on a particular trade from start to finish. something like the nomar trade or something. that was an excellent interview from the ryan.
Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!
by cubsluver22 on May 14, 2008 3:59 PM CDT 0 recs
hmmm it will be interesting to hear the response to Edmond's name the first time its announced
I genuiely hated the guy when he was a Card and I know I am not alone. I’m sure there will be some mixed cheers//jeers
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on May 14, 2008 4:01 PM CDT 0 recs
If it will let him do this again...I'll cheer him like I was his mother.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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LSA
Exactly. He’s a Cub now, and I’m rooting for him.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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Didnt think it would happen
But I hope he hits a homer tomorrow.
Hopefully he wont bitch about any close pitches.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 14, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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I'm sure he'll figure out quickly
That Lou is much less permissive of that stuff than La-ruse-a was….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:08 PM CDT
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yep
hopefully he can bring something good to our club
by columbusOHcubsfan on
May 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT
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Stunned silence would work for me.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
May 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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i think this would be the best possible reaction
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
by CubbyBlues on
May 14, 2008 6:10 PM CDT
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I don't like it but better than Griffey!
I’m not happy with signing Edmonds but he is cheaper than Griffey, I don’t imagine that they are paying him more than the minimum with San Diego paying the rest. Griffey gets to go to Seattle who will pay too much just to get him and too much to pay him. Will Edmonds help the team? I don’t think so, but Lou wants to give him a try and if he doesn’t produce Lou will let him go. One of the reasons Lou left Seattle was because they wouldn’t get a power hitter to boost the lineup for the final surge. After years of fighting management over this he finally got fed up and left. I think Hendry did the right thing. I don’t like it but sometimes you need to make compromises.
I think Pie needs to work on his swing and needs playing time. I would have liked the time to be at the ML level but Lou didn’t want to play him so it is better that he go down and play.
by bubbamike the one and only on
May 14, 2008 7:07 PM CDT
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is it wrong?
i kind of hope that while kerry wood is warming up in the 9th tomorrow night, he drills edmonds as he’s running out to CF between innings. just for old time’s sake.
by billywan on
May 14, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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Per Jim Hendry, via the Score:
Jim Edmonds is on his way to town to take a physical. If he passes, he will be in the lineup tomorrow night.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT 0 recs
most importantly,
its not a done deal. As many times as he’s broken down the last couple of years, passing is not guaranteed.
by N Oakley on
May 14, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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DYNAMITE DROP IN SUE :)
Honestly, he could very well hurt himself in the physical. But when was the last time anyone didnt pass a physical? Baseball wise?
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT
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Damn Sue!
I thought you had that one ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
May 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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Maybe
we could kneecap him at the airport so he won’t pass.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
May 14, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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I'm tellin' ya...
...get Tonya Harding on the phone. This whole problem could be solved very quickly.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
May 14, 2008 4:43 PM CDT
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That whole....
“turn your head and cough” can be injury-inducing sometimes. Depends on the temperature of the doctor’s hands.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
May 14, 2008 4:43 PM CDT
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(takes deep breath)......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
May 14, 2008 4:49 PM CDT
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Let us hope that it is a comprehensive physical
If his body has given out as most of us suspect, the signing idea can be nixed. If he really is healthy, let him prove it before he gets someone pushed off the 40-man roster.
by Qixotl on May 14, 2008 4:08 PM CDT 0 recs
Maybe he will fail
that part where they pass the flashlight in front of your eyes because of all his concussions.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
May 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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Concussions are scrappy.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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True
I forgot about out scrappiness scale. He’s not quite Riot or Fonty scrappy though
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
May 14, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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His CrGb rating
puts him well into scrappy territory, however.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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Think again...
He loves to dive…and he always has a 6:30 shadow…it’s an hour and a half better than DeRosa’s.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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True,
but Derosa’s 5 o’clock shadow is coextensive with his hair. That’s pretty scrappy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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He did play
with Eckstein, though. Is scrappiness contagious?
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on
May 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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Its gotta
be from Eckstein, isn’t he King Scrappy?
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
May 14, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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Scrappy,
from the Latin “scrius prynum” is actually an entity invisible to the untrained eye. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together. And Eckstein is its harbinger.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on
May 14, 2008 4:45 PM CDT
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Look kid,
I’ve seen a lot of strange stuff, but I’ve never seen anything to make me believe there’s one all-powerful force controlling everything. There’s no mystical energy field controls my destiny.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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Hey, can I get a ride in the Millenium Falcon?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
May 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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Well, if money is all that you care about,
then that’s what you’ll receive.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on
May 14, 2008 4:55 PM CDT
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Wonderful girl. Either I’m going to kill her, or I’m beginning to like her.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
May 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT
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Look after yourself, Han.
I guess it’s what you’re best at.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on
May 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT
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Look at the size of that thing!
heard when Adam Dunn walks out of the dugout
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
May 14, 2008 5:08 PM CDT
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Be the ball, Danny
n/t
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by BigJohnAZ on
May 14, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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Anyone know
if there is a possibility that if Edmonds fails to be successful in Center with the Cubs, they bring up Micah Hoffpauir to play center? I’ve heard he’s played a little in the outfield. Just throwing it out there. Any insight?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT 0 recs
I would imagine
it would be like putting Soto in CF. But, I think you are joking….............
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT
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Actually
No I’m not (for the first time in a while). Again, not knowing much about the kid running it up the flagpole.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
May 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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Cool
I think AL and Josh could give a better reason as to why.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
May 14, 2008 4:17 PM CDT
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Oh God.
I just got a picture of that lumbering ox flopping around CF. Lord, no. Hoffpauir can’t play CF. He’s been playing a little RF. If Edmonds can’t cut it, he goes back on the scrap heap and Pie comes back up.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT
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Ok
So we petition the league to have the DH in the National League and stick Hoffpauir in there… who’s with me? Kidding, I hate the DH!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
May 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT
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LOL!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT
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Hoffpauir would not be my first, second, third, or perhaps even my tenth choice for a DH on the 40-man roster.
He hits pretty well… for a second baseman. As a first baseman? Not so well. As a DH? Oh boy.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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I'll play your game you rogue
Who would you put as DH?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
May 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT
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For me:
DWard or Jake Fox
I don’t know the minors well enough to go deeper and I value DLee’s and Ramirez’ defense too much to take their gloves away.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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Presuming that our eight and a half starters...
...will keep their positions, and in no particular order:
Daryle Ward
Matt Murton
Jake Fox
Mike Fontenot
Ronny Cedeno
Carlos Zambrano
If I get to look beyond the 40-man roster a bit, Josh Kroeger is another. Maybe Matt Craig from AA deserves a look as well. But Ward would be my first choice and it wouldn’t be close.
by cwyers on
May 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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Zambrano
Would kiss you just for considering him.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 14, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Murton
that high huh? I guess I’m coming from a different direction on this, as I presume the DH to be a power/slugging hitter. I like the idea of Ward or even dare I say it Edmonds.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
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