Open Thread: Cubs vs. Padres, Thursday 5/15, 1:20 CT
San Diego Padres at Chicago Cubs, May 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
There's a game today? I thought all you guys wanted to talk about was the Cubs' acquisition of Jim Edmonds.
Here's what Cardinal fans think:edmonds is a cub. and they can have him. he’ll probably fare better in wrigley than he did in petco park, where he hit .091 (3 hits in 33 trips), but he’s washed up nonetheless. the cardinals moved him so he wouldn’t block their prized cf prospect, colby rasmus; the cubs just acquired him and another castoff, reed johnson, to block the path of their young stud cfer, felix pie. better them than us.
Padres fans weigh in, too. (That post also contains a really frightening photo. Beware!)
"There is really no negative in it," Hendry said. "You're not giving up players. You're not spending a lot of dollars, so you look at things like that and, hopefully, he'll be able to give us at least a great portion of the Jim Edmonds we all knew and used to fear in a lot of ways."
Well, we'lll see. In the meantime, Bruce Miles reminds us of a confrontation between Edmonds and Carlos Zambrano in July 2004:
Zambrano hit Edmonds with a pitch in the first inning at Wrigley Field. In the fourth, Edmonds hit a homer and admired his drive a little too long for Zambrano's liking.
Zambrano struck out Edmonds in the sixth and did a little finger-wagging. In the eighth, Scott Rolen homered off Zambrano, who then drilled Edmonds and was ejected.
Here's the game in question, July 19, 2004. The Cardinals won 5-4.
Shockingly, Jay Mariotti gets it right today:Know what amuses me about Cubdom? If Jim Edmonds rips a game-winning home run today, 40,000 fans will develop instant amnesia about why they hate him. They'll jump, scream, dance, bow, shimmy, do the Soulja Boy thing, demand a curtain call, scream louder when he doffs his blue cap, sing "Go Cubs Go" and vanish merrily into a Wrigleyville afternoon while reminding their friends, "Dude, I told you Edmonds was a good pickup."
He's right. Now, on to the actual game today.
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Jim Edmonds is 10-for-38 lifetime against Greg Maddux with three doubles and two HR. Maddux has thrown pretty well this year, although he had one really bad start vs. Arizona where he gave up nine earned runs. Of the 5 HR he's allowed, three of them were in his first start of the year.
We all love Maddux, but as far as I'm concerned, he can win his next start.
Ryan Dempster has been consistent all year -- going at least six innings in six of his seven starts so far. He still needs to stop walking so many hitters -- averaging more than three walks per start. Brian Giles absolutely kills him -- .406/.487/.750 (13-for-32, 3 doubles, a triple, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 6 BB). Otherwise he handles these guys pretty well, apart from, of all people, Maddux, who is 2-for-5 lifeetime vs. Dempster (a single, a double).
Today's game is on CSN -- no San Diego TV, so Cub fans won't be subjected to the bleatings of the worst announcer in baseball, Matt Vasgersian. For more see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's overflow comment thread will post at 2:45 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Pie
has been sent down to AAA.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks...sorry, I just read the a.m. post
Can that really be good for Pie’s morale? I suppose Al is right though, they can always bring him back up…..I think the 300K would be better spent subsidizing a discount on beer for a few games.
by coral on May 15, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth of the matter is
its not good for Pie’s morale. This is a trial and error situation. Lou has been working with Pie for a while now, and most likely feels its still hasn’t paid off. He’s suppose to go get more reps in AAA and refine his game. Hopefully this is just a bump in Pie’s road to the bigs.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good god.
Can we beat this dead (Eight Belles) horse anymore?!! Let’s wait and see what happens, people. What’s done is done.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
And disagree w/ Hendry’s “No negatives” assertion. It’s not a negative when you’re hindering the development of your most coveted prospect?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get to watch him in Des Moines...
Lucky me.
The scoreboard guy at Iowa Cubs games thinks it’s really funny to post this on the video scoreboard on games when Pie plays:
“TODAY’S GAME IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE NUMBER 3.14”
I’ll give Hendry the benefit of the doubt on this one for a change. He’s had an amazing offseason and season thus far with Kosuke and Johnson, so this can’t be that bad, can it?
Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.
by IowaCubs- on May 15, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That IS funny.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Math humor ROCKS~!
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
How about: There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on May 15, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
that’s fantastic.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably better than this one...
There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can’t.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Obligatory comment about being/first/second/third]
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if edmonds plays well
I’ll gladly admit that I was wrong.
If he doesn’t play well. Well then I was right.
4th
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on May 15, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Story if Edmonds Is Cubs' Savior
Not bloody likely, though. I would also love to be wrong about Edmonds.
by memphiscub on May 15, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Edmonds looks HUGE in that picture
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It kinda looks like...
...he’s trying to carry a keg of beer. I bet he’s doing bicep curls in the corner of the clubhouse with full barrels of beer as he further alienates his teammates as they celebrate their World Series victory. He’s probably focusing on getting strong enough to run through the ivy & brick of Wrigley Field a few years later.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to remind Mariotti
he’s not a 27 year old beat writer….
They’ll jump, scream, dance, bow, shimmy, do the Soulja Boy thing…..
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
...who the hell shimmies anymore??
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I shimmy
but then again I’m 22 and get dragged into dancing bars. Sadly Mariotti does it get it right. I won’t cheer for him until he has a hell of a month. Only way I see myself enjoying seeing that pompous troll around CF. I wonder how many routine fly balls he turns into highlight reel catches for us?
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
by TkGoUWGB on May 15, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dancing bars as in
Clubs?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this talk
about how Ed is a bad clubhouse guy, (someone give some instances). People who say that Ed is a hot dog & purposely dives for balls to make highlight reels are not thinking clearly. Why would a professional ball-player do that? Think about it. Just kills me that people that don’t like Ed will say anything to down him. Let’s remember that Ed has 8 gold gloves. Gold Gloves don’t come from playing defense in a hot dog way. For a CF, they come from speed to get to the gaps, understanding hitter preferences and lining up appropriately & taking prudent routes to fly balls. Ed is pro. He might be done, he might not. Let’s just see, can we at least give him a chance? If he makes the team better, great! If not, kick him to the curb.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on May 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're really stickin' with this Ed thing, eh?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Does it really bother you? At least I don’t spell it like some do, “Edmunds”.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on May 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Souljay Boy?
YOUUUUUUUUUU
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is Soulja Boy?
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on May 15, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could get Supermanned for asking that question, you know. I’d be careful.
by HereComesASpecialBoy on May 15, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supermanned?
Man, I didn’t realize how old I am until right now. Seriously, is he a rapper?
So nobody has to see the scroll bar on my posts!!!!
by McRipper on May 15, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MADDUX
Light him up
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
half-shirt
ahahaha. the awesome half-shirt. living in st. louis, i for one am TIRED of seeing those.
by Radiohead17 on May 15, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Padres announcers defense
Considering the last two years I’ve heard every National League announcer from Extra Innings and MLB.TV I have to say I was actually entertained by the Padres announcing last night. They were honest and shared some of my opinions.
Of course I’d much rather hear Len and Bob who I’ve truly enjoyed listening to for the last couple years.
by ak123 on May 15, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone hear Tony Kornheiser took a buyout?
http://www.reuters.com/article/artsNews/idUSN1449566220080515
This is JUST like the last season of THE WIRE, The Greatest Show of All-Time. Even the best of the best writers get bought out by the media bigwigs, assholes.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the article?
“Kornheiser, 59, has not written a regular column for the paper’s print edition since 2006, a Web search site shows, but excerpts from his “Talking Points” video program on washingtonpost.com run on page 2 of the paper’s sports section. Kornheiser also is an analyst for ESPN’s Monday Night Football.”
“I love the paper. They were great to me every day that I was there,” he told Reuters. “But I don’t do much for the paper anymore.”
by bison on May 15, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I just posted a link I didn't read.
After Bissinger’s rant last week, you think newspapers would want to RETAIN important, name-recognition personas such as Tony’s. I didn’t include that portion because it doesn’t really say how he was paid – pro-rated for his services? Salary? Kinda hard to say how much he’s worth without knowing this.
And did you read the article? Or just hit ctrl+c and ctrl+v?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bissinger on Costas
When he was on the HBO show with Costas, I found it ironic that Bissinger was using bleeping language in criticizing the bleeping material that is seen on a lot of blogs. What a way to be a pot calling the kettle black!
by memphiscub on May 15, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The man can write, that's for sure...
...but he’s a bit crazy. Sure, 99% of the sports blogs suck, but ones like BCB make it all worth it, right?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Got Legitimate Gripes
I loved Friday Night Lights, by the way. I’m glad he was visibly angry on the show in expressing his points. There’s a lot of garbage in the blogosphere. However, viewers would have paid more attention to his actual, legitimate complaints, had he been able to use a cleaner mouth.
by memphiscub on May 15, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm evangelic
about Friday Night Lights but his performance with Costas was foam-at-the-mouth batshit crazy
by Emelie on May 15, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the equivalent of a a few PTI-like blurbs...
just to have his name associated with the paper, it hardly seems worth it. At any price. Tough times for newspapers these days.
Tony K the columnist left the Post quite a while ago. Seems like old news…
by bison on May 24, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw Mariotti.
What fan base doesn’t do that as a whole? Seriously? You’re supposed to go back into Wrigleyville and murmur under you breath about how “Tomorrow he’ll probably strike out.”
I hate * fans like that. Be happy your team won for christ sakes.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My last name is Hart.
BROFER?
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
After reading that snippet I wondered, “Did that really need to be said? You’re getting PAID to write this?!”
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs lineup
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, RF
Edmonds, CF
Cedeno, 2B
Blanco, C
Dempster, P
by Bruce Miles on May 15, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two lefties in a row?
Someone explain that one to me. scratches head
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point was?
I thought the point of another lefty power hitter was to break up the lineup righty lefty?
by BigFuko on May 15, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god
that the batting ninth comment was a joke. He should be 7th in that lineup IMO
by AndHart120 on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a bad idea
YOU STAT MAN, should know this.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It actually works out given the cyclical nature of a lineup.
You make up for the extra 40 or so PAs by pitchers a season by the runs you score having a guy on base for the top of your lineup more often.
by cwyers on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh.
I think we had this argument a few weeks back. And it was shown that can account for something like 9 or 11 runs MORE per year.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, or one marginal win.
The key is not to think of the lineup 1-9, but as a cycle.
by cwyers on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a stupid idea...
...but stats are stats. It only works for the right teams, though, too. We don’t mind if Z or Marquis are hitting 9th, right?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, fine
Although Ill agree with 100+ years of baseball as opposed to a manager in St Louis and a copycat manager in Milwaukee whos former boss (Bobby Cox) thinks its idiotic.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things change...
People used to think walks weren’t a good thing. Then, they thought walks were okay but swinging aggressively was much better. People used to throw their starters for the entire game. The game evolves. It may be that people don’t embrace the idea of batting the pitcher 8th. It may be that the stats aren’t right. But the “this is the way we’ve always done it” argument is pretty poor logic.
by SouthernCub on May 15, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, at the rist of invoking this name...
...Bill James stated in a recent radio interview that batting the catcher and pitcher eighth and ninth was really an arbitrary decision made in the early days of baseball that was never really questioned. There wasn’t much thought put into it besides, well, those guys are usually the weakest hitters, so bat ‘em last. I just don’t think the idea should be dismissed outright just because it clashes with tradition.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Things change' is poor logic too
Soon enough Larussa will go away and so will the pitcher hitting 8th all the time in a lineup. Say Micah Owings, Dontrelle, possibly Z and some other good hitters batting 7th or 8th over someone like Rey Ordonez or some other defense only guy.
But everyday-———is a poor decision IMO. I hope Lou and no future manager of the Cubs even entertains the idea.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not my argument...
that’s my argument as to why your argument is using poor logic. I’m in the boat that believes the stats may have it right in this case.
by SouthernCub on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats are like your brother in law
they lie.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only when you don't understand what they're saying...
I’m not saying that batting the pitcher 8th is definitely better. I’m just saying it’s really short-sighted and illogical to argue that it’s wrong simply because tradition did it differently.
by SouthernCub on May 15, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
In the last three posts you have explained your point. I get it, thanks.
Ill believe tradition, the other 28 managers, my knowledge and others to think it is a dumb idea.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you may be right...
But all of those reasons you’ve listed are based entirely on tradition, rather than any experimentation or scientific thought. Tradition MAY be right in this case, but I’d rather have evidence supporting it rather than just tradition.
by SouthernCub on May 15, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
So the stats that cwyers or whoever can present are compiling stats for about the last 1.5-2 season for about 1 or 2 teams. Whereas they are being compared to 120 years of doing that another way. So basically the stats someone can present will represent less than 1% of the history of baseball.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The history of baseball...
DIDN’T THINK ABOUT IT!!! That’s the point. They’ve blindly done it this way, ignoring the possibility that there may be a better way. That’s the point.
Also, I’m not sure what the relevance of the application to the full 100 years matters. The game is different now. The relevant years are the most recent years, because those are the ones that are going to be most similar to what is going to happen this year and the next year.
by SouthernCub on May 15, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ill agree to disagree with your
view that my logic is off. Moving on.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that's not how statistics prove this
You don’t look at the small sample size of Larussa’s lineup and say “See it works!”
You build a statistical model and project what would happen based on a given lineup. You’re assuming statistics can only work backwards on a problem.
by Wreckard on May 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I’ve never once looked at the Cardinals and their run scoring in relation to lineup position. What I’ve looked at is a model of how teams score runs, and what that model says about run scoring.
You can argue with the assumptions of that model, but to dismiss the idea that models can tell you anything about baseball is absurd and irrational.
by cwyers on May 15, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you couldn't be more right about my brother-in-law
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on May 15, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and...
batting 8th when Hank White isnt playing.
by AndHart120 on May 15, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still baffled by the fact that Lou has his lefties right next to each other in the lineup.
by cwyers on May 15, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kicking the tires?
lol
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
I thought the point of this was to break up the righties?
''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.
by CubsBullsBears on May 15, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its also
important for Lou to make sure he can hit. I agree with Cedeno and Blanco behind him. IMO tomorrow youll see Edmonds 7th or 8th, until Lou can see if Edmonds can hit DOME isnt going anywhere
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's where the fear comes in:
Edmonds taking up big league PAs trying to prove he can bat.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou's old.
He forgets.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his diebetes doesn't help
If he forgets to eat….
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
by Bluelou on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pads...
...have no lefties available for today’s game. Their only bullpen lefty through a boatload of pitches the other day. I’ll bet Fukudome is in the 2hole tomorrow.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on May 15, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only meager guess...
...as to why Lou didn’t move Dome to the two-hole and drop Theriot is that Theriot has been red hot lately. It’s the hot hand thing again. That’s the best I can do.
And, FWIW, I wouldn’t mind if Lou tried batting the pitcher eighth—I think it’s going to be an increasingly popular thing in baseball in coming years. Lou, however, has gone on record repeatedly that he prefers the traditional approach and won’t do it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have seen Onedec in front of Edmonds.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm the biggest Riot fan around
but we can please switch him and ONEDEC in the field?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But if ONEDEC was out there, that play yesterday
would have looked routine. What’s the fun in that?
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your sarcasm is noted
But seriously, that was an awesome catch
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a big Riot fan.
More of just a funny comment than any hate on Riot. He reminds me of me when I played.
Only he can hit.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha touche.
Actually, I’m the same way. Only I never grew the PornoStache.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou can't/won't do that so long as Theriot is the starting shortstop...
...for a variety of reasons. It aggravates me to no end, but there it is.
by cwyers on May 15, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone good at photoshop?
I was watching Hendry’s press conference about signing the new guy (his name has been mentioned too much lately), and he had a striking resemblence to the evil Emperor in Star Wars….no fake eye lenses required.
Take a look….put a hood over his head and you’ll laugh your ass off! :-)
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
by Bluelou on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a look where?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good, you're here.
Let’s start the pictures of Edmonds; I give you approval to start.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll wait for him to actually do something good/bad first.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a photoshopped picture...
of Edmonds and Marquis that I am sure everyone has seen. Not sure how appropriate it is to post here though.
by smmcctrk on May 15, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm intrigued...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping you could do this
the CCSN broadcast….it was just on.
It really was uncanny…I laughed very hard.
But then, I’m easily amused…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
by Bluelou on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry..i missed it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure it will be on again later today....
You are so good with these kind of manipulations….any picture of Hendry slouched behind the mic would do….
It’s mostly his eyes….and the bags under them (nothing personal to Jim, of course)
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
by Bluelou on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheering for Edmonds is Easy!
STEP 1: CHEER FOR EDMONDS
STEP 2: 
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on May 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB didn't waste any time with Photoshop

by MillsChC on May 15, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bwhahahahahhahaaa how odd is that
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I had a nightmare like that
once upon a time
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like he pulled the hat too far down on his head.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My eyes!
The goggles do nothing!
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
got it….
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimminy jillikers, I figured someone would.
:D
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mommy
I feel dirty. Make the bad man stop.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait so if Edmonds hits a walk off....
We’re all going to be singing Go Cubs Go while doing the Soulja Boy?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure why not.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's the plan. Go practice. Now.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Soulja Boy
sample “Go Cubs Go?”
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I take that back.
There should be no need for a walkoff.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you picture it?
Right now, Jim Edmonds is a Cub. At this very moment, he’s probably getting settled in the Cubs clubhouse. He’s trying on the uniform, finding a bat, and meeting the guys.
Meanwhile, across the room, a very large, angry Venezuelan stares at him while eating a banana….
by Jobu on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
LOL. I can totally see it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet:
Jimmy, all suited up and ready to go, remarks to no one in particular, “Hey, guys, look: free bananas! This team rocks!”
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice...
Once Edmonds turns toward his locker, Big Z will drop the banana peels behind him for when he turns around
by MillsChC on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the banana jokes are flying fast and furious now!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just recommended your post, that was so funny
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, now that I think of it...
...the Barrett/Zambrano fight turned out to be good for the team, right? Didn’t we go on a tear in wins?
Hell, let Zambrano go after Edmonds.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, to split hairs,
it “turned our team around.” Turning us around now would be bad. Very bad.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
Comedy!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone post a banana fanpost quick!
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I reserve the rights
for Mr Bananagrabber, Baby Bananagrabber, and any other Bananagrabbber family character that might emanate therefrom.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hai
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/uprgaded_ur_banazaz.jpg
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean,
I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds, just give Zambrano a call and sort things out

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until Z a-peel's this signing.
Count it!
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could always just...
...meet by the big yellow joint.
by Chadnudj on May 15, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little Afternoon Deelite?
Real sticky stuff.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds on a third straight leadoff HR?
Can’t be too great. Get your $$ in now!
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How bout homering in 4 straight games?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, I forgot about that.
Nice. I’ll settle.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile
somewhere another dog is killed in BlueMikes neighborhood.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's strangely quiet today.
I have a theory that, every time Soriano homers, MDB[lueMike]NIU grows a little bit weaker. Like Superman succumbing to Kryptonite.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
he’s more like Tinkerbell, but he gets off on people booing Soriano.
The more hrs Soriano hits, the fewer boos he gets.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niiiiiiiice.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Ronnie
Woo yesterday buying lottery tickets 111 and 222. Sadly he didn’t win so he’ll be out begging for money again today.
"To know that I know what I know, and that I do not know what I do not know. That is true knowledge" - Confucious as quoted in Walden
by toaster on May 15, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He never seems to lack the funds to gain access to Wrigley Field.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explain to me the Ronnie Woo hate?
Since I’m not in Illinois, I only make it to Wrigley 2-3x every year or two, and I’ve been to spring training a few times. I understand the man can be annoying, but what’s the big deal?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on May 15, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly, you've never stood next to him during any of those games.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Standing next to Ronnie is a horrifying experience. Idiots all around you copy the “Woo”-ing and it’s enough to make you crazy.
by HereComesASpecialBoy on May 15, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes obnoxious
Hes obnoxious and innappropriate.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like a brother-in-law?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on May 15, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, who is this loser your sister married?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's almost as if he has no idea what's goin on around him
or he actually has no clue what’s going on around him. I just thank the good Lord I don’t get stuck next to him on the 3hr flight from Midway to Sky Harbor. lol now that would be enough to drive someone crazy
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt be worse
Peanuts – woo… in-flight movie-woo… flight attendant – woo
by chicagodave on May 15, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
n/t
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
I was lucky enough to sit in the RF bleachers sunday and he found 2 women he knew and sat with them for roughly 4 – 5 innings and everyone around them did the woo thing about 20 times.
On a side note every time I’ve seen him and he comes by my sec and the cubs are losing… they take the lead.
by chicagodave on May 15, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So fans can't just
complain to security that he’s being a nuisance? Or is he given leeway because he’s a quasi-celebrity?
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets a free pass...
He even gets in the players section during the Cubs convention. If only my parents could have dropped me on my head a few more times. lol j/k
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he essentially
gets free season tickets plus perks for being annoying? Maybe Brennaman was right. Joking, joking…
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I go the park
to watch the game. I can’t do that if I’ve got an air-raid siren going off in my ear.
He’s distracting, and silly. Let him go bother a minor league team. Hey! Maybe he’ll leave with the Padres! :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronny - Woo Woo
truth be told, has a mental illness. He truly suffers from a mental disability.
I do not sit in the bleachers often, but hear him from the Upper Deck. He is given much slack from most, scorn from many, and a free pass from management…going back to 1970.
He is part of the whole thing as is Ron Santo – who I cannot stand calling a baseball game – but like in many other ways.
by The E-Man on May 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe instead of
helping him get into the park, the team should help him get treatment.
I’m not without sympathy, and so far, I’ve seen him rarely enough to be really bothered by it, but it’s a distraction that really shouldn’t be allowed.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing HWSNBN to Ron Santo? Ouch.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only in that
it sort of comes with the whole environment until something changes – ahem – of a “next phase” of life nature.
by The E-Man on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Edmonds
It’s not so much that I hate him; I just think he is washed up and more than likely won’t help the team. However, I’m willing to see what he can do and hope that he turns out to be a great acquisition.
by qccub on May 15, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOO!
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree on Mariotti
I have already stated that i do not know whether I can even cheer for him. Will I be happy if he knocks a walk off HR? Sure. Will I cheer whole heartedly? NO WAY. Can’t do it. I despise him. I also think Hendry loses a tiny bit of credibility here. Here, he just dumped barrett bc of personality clashes w Z. He did so and Z seemed to thrive. So what do we do? Bring in some douche bag who ALSO rubs Z the worng way. And we do so in the midst of this team holding the 2nd best record in the majors.
I give Hendry a HUGENOURMOUS ??????????
This is a waste of time and money and yes Jim, it most certainly can have some negatives.
Oh and PS, way to NOT ask big Z whether he is okay with this. That sends a real supportive message to our ace.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on May 15, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you were buddy buddy with Z and Hendry.
For all you know, he DID ask him. Calm the hell down. Lord.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off...
the “no checking with Z” was IN the article. Z was asked and he said “no comment”. Try reading the article first.
Joe…I am not “not cheering whole heartedly” because of his Cardinalness…it is because he is an absolute douche bag. I have him in the low end of the Bonds Category.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on May 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
you won’t cheer wholeheartedly for Edmonds cuz he used to be a cardinal?? he’s a Cub now.
how do you know big Z was not consulted? has that been reported?
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds just intro'd for the 1st time
WGN radio pre-game guy said the reaction was “mixed”, but it sounded like more cheers than boos to me.
maddux, of course, received quite an ovation.
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just heard it, too.
I’d say it was a decidedly mixed reaction. Some polite claps but some audible boos, too. (As opposed to inaudible ones, which, let’s face it, don’t really do too much.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The inaudible boo.
When you want to be defiant, but don’t want others to know it.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Inaudiboo....
add it to the BCB dictionary.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have an idea of the wind situation today?
Can’t get the game down here in the middle of hell.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You live here in St Louis too?
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup -- but about 25 miles east of the river
in Breese. Don’t ask why, i’m still trying to figure that out myself lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
Feel like a POW.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Mil. is in the 5th inning already.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow can't come fast enough.
Long lapses in WGN coverage kill me. Arrggh.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
At least we get the added ESPN game on Monday.
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wondering which announcers will get the call in that mon night game
i will most likely have the mute button taped down for those ESPN guys.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know it.
And since St Louis stopped broadcasting WGN radio on 880 I’ve been listening to music during the games. At least my CDs don’t interrupt every five minutes for Yankees “news.”
Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.
by neverAcquiesce on May 15, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do academic conferences always end in drunkeness?
It’s been a rough morning. Seeing Jim Edmonds in pinstripes did not aid my hangover recovery.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary, didn't know you were an academic
What discipline?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philosopher...in training.
To quote Comic Book Guy: “Oh, I have wasted my life…”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice pull
Now, can you name Comic Book Guy’s real name?
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi
by ilovepie on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in my current state.
I’m pretty sure most of the important parts of my brain are coated with malted hops.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
My dad’s a philosopher. I did a minor and college, figuring it’s a good fallback option in case the free jazz doesn’t work out. :-)
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's your dad teach?
See, that’s ironic because most of us are looking for fallbacks in case philosophy doesn’t work out! Seriously, the job market is pretty rough now. I’m not entering for a few years, but even the forecast is bleak.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I had intended that as a joke…I mean, who that majors in jazz and minors in philosophy is concerned with a stable career and secure future? Nobody! Holla!
University of Rochester.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
That’s a ranked program.
Too true about philosophy and jazz.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
My friends used to say I’d have philosophy to help me understand why I was broke.
UR is also where I did the philosophy minor. Some good professors.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a big free jazz fan
Chicago has a world class free jazz scene. It’s one of the reasons I moved here.
by Emelie on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
It’s an interesting scene. Of course coming from such a rich tradition including the Art Ensemble of Chicago, it makes sense. Nice to see the things that guys like Ken Vandermark and Hamid Drake have been doing.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
love them both
and they in turn spawned a new generation—jeb bishop, fred lonberg-holm (although he’s not exactly next gen), there’s something every night.
by Emelie on May 15, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’d like to get back to Chicago. The last time I played there, at the Empty Bottle (back when Vandermark was running the weekly free jazz series), we had a great time, though the paucity of audience members led us to refer to it as the Empty Jazz Club.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
The Bottle is an armpit of a bar but it’s my home away from home. It’s still the (old) Knitting Factory of Chicago, but I miss Vandermark and Corbett programming the jazz series.
by Emelie on May 15, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where else?
What are the other places these days? Velvet Lounge moved down the street, right?
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Velvet’s in new digs near the old ones. These days it’s the Hideout, Brown Rice (in Michael Zerang’s old spot), check out chi-improv@yahoogroups.com. It’s a good resource. Let me know if you come to town, I’ll buy you a beer.
by Emelie on May 15, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free JAzz
is not free anymore!
Have you tried to get into the Bottom Line or Iridium in NYC?! OR the Jazz Showcase?
It ain’t free! Even Fred Anderson’s place The Velvet Lounge, Mr. AACM, ain’t free!!
by The E-Man on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free jazz
Yeah, NYC can be ridiculously expensive for seeing shows. Any of the “mainstream” Manhattan clubs are typically $25-30/set plus a 2-drink minimum. There are some other places though, like The Stone (John Zorn’s club), and some places in Brooklyn (Barbes) where it’s a little more reasonable.
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah. I hope to be writer in training in a year and a half.
That has much less zing than philosopher though.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by "zing"
you mean “possibility of making any real money,” I assume…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be getting an MFA, not a PhD
In university terms that = goody! servant wages!
Easier for me to find freelance work though I suppose.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent.
Philosophy degreed here. Deconstructionist, you? You haven’t wasted your life, a philosophy degree will allow you to do many things well. Besides, I’ll bet you are usually the most intelligent and even-keeled guy in the room.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on May 15, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
History of philosophy
Late modern-Nietzsche. I also dabble a bit in pragmatism and phenomenology.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that the thing
where you measure the bumps on my head?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
no, that was “phrenology.” Phenomenology, broadly construed, is the study of the basic structures of experience. Though that’s widely debated, even among phenomenologists.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh.
cause, frankly, I could use a good head massage.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did my dissertation on Nietzsche...
Used to refer to myself in undergraduate as a “pos-mod”.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on May 15, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I working on a paper on the meaning of existential propositions right now, but every time I get a little full of myself, I pull out Genealogy of Morals and read the preface as a reminder that it’s all crap. It keeps me level!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What conference was that?
And how do I sign up?
by John Q Freejazz on May 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2008 Gameday?
Anyone else notice the link takes you to the game preview page?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you use the one on the article
it takes you to the right screen. Still in warmups
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click on the Gameday tab in between the preview tab and the Box score tab
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
n/t
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anytime.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air!!
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Messman reached back for a little extra on that one.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every time I hear him sing I'm
amazed that the man was shot in the throat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yeah. I've heard that story. That is amazing!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes says wind blowing in
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and...
they announce him in the lineup on the radio.
I cannot remove the sound of DOOM from my ears…
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SWL
looks like our Howry Cow shirts on en route
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You referring to ME?!?
LOL
---
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i need you to hurry up now
cuz i cant wait much longer
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddux
I believe the onkly poor game that had this year was due to the fact that his start was pushed up a day. IIRC, the Padres played a 20 some odd inning game earlier in the week and because of that, Maddux was pushed up a day and couldn’t come out of the game in order to save the bullpen
Not that anyone cares, but I can’t see how the signing of Edmonds holds Pie back or blocks his development. He’ll get another shot and when the front office feels he’s ready for that shot, Edmonds will be released and Johnson will be the 4th outfielder.
I agree with Hendry that there’s no down side. If Edmonds doesn’t have anything left, then goodbye Edmonds and we’re back to the same place we were on Wednesday. No harm, no foul.
Formerly NO100
by jerry morales rules on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Edmonds is a Cub for now...
Sorry to sound a bit rude but….........
Deal with it. No sense is complaining and wasting energy over something you cant control.
All this Edmonds bashing is a little old.
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Word. he's a cub, so i like him now
we’re essentially rooting for the uniform as seinfeld once pointed out.
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preview
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview?gameId=280515116
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Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I pray...
that he who shall not be mentioned proves the baseball world wrong. And I never pray.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just practicing for later….
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Derrek lee
is good at baseball
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dont wanna be a stick in the mud
but im not liking kanye @ Wrigley.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i like kanye, but not at wrigley
i think it should be only organ music
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One pitch
One out
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds
I got to the party late here, but Ill give my 2 cents.
If having Edmonds in the line up makes the Cubs better , which It should (otherwise Hendry wouldnt have signed him) Then WELCOME TO WRIGLEY!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on May 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good start!
c’mon Demp!!!
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 pitches
two outs.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pitch count up to 3
with two outs….
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds didn't get booed did he?
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a "mixed reaction"
more telling will be his 1st PA
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got booed a little bit, yes. There was a mixed reaction when his name was announced.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone is saying mixed
but on my comp it certainly sounded like more cheers than boos. but certainly some boos. so it was mixed.
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can say that again.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha.
mixed
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there goes
the no-no. :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Base hit, Giles. To RF.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on May 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Edmunds
playing shallower than Ron is used to seeing. Imagine our joy.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad coincidence.
Never thought that out of the two CF’s playing in a game including the Cubs, I’d want Jody Gerut.
Now that it’s out of my system, let’s go Jim!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice inning for Demp!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Adrian Gonzalez strikes out swinging.
To the bottom.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first
K of the night.
9 pitches.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he will pull a Urlacher
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wiht his AL team, maybe.
Milwaukee just made him eminently more tradeable with that sweetheart deal he gave them. The kid is not to sharp.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 15, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice first inning.
"Anything under 5 pitches is a bad at-bat."
by Fukumania on May 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we please spell the mans name right
E-D-M-O-N-D-S
Thank you
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
by Galvan316 on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually theres no hyphens in his name
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh snap
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that looked funny.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's known as...
‘ballgame’ down here in hell. Feel free to bash that all u want.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ballgame? I think I'd prefer "Ed" over that.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy "ballgame"
is what he is referred to as in the STL Media. Don’t ask me where it came from. Joey Harrington got the same nickname when he played for the Lions.
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we all know how good Joey was, must be a great nickname.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on May 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ballgame?
his nickname is “ballgame”?
what does that even MEAN?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That picture
I was talking about above might explain that nickname…
by smmcctrk on May 15, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully edmonds bats in the 1st inning
in the 6 hole
game over! - ARAM FOR MVP on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT (down 3-0 to the Reds in the 1ST INNING)
by joeschmitt on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano singles to CF.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on May 15, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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