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Whew.
Finally. That was a laughably slow thread.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Not off to a flying start, are we Bob?
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
great
there’s a loud drunk right under the mic
hope it’s not al
That asshat that can be heard
on the booth mic needs has had enough. Turn out the lights, the party’s over.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Guys that warm up as the weather warms up...
Doesn’t that mean they cool down in the fall, during the playoffs? Isn’t that what happened last year?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
How is that not a strike?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
it was.
ump robbed Howry.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
F-n ump.
That outside pitch has been a strike all day, Ed. Be consistent.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
ump squeezing howry like a sponge
trying to make this game a little more interesting I guess
I could do with some boredom.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
SpongeBob StrangeZone
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Maybe it's Bruce Froemming's birthday
and he’s giving him a shout out
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Derosa looking less than graceful there, but gets the out anyway...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He didn't want to be accused of another girlie throw.
No offense to the ladies on the thread today.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Wtf.
When did Michaels get fast?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
uuuuuuuuuuuuugh
pirates catching a couple of breaks in this inning
Ok, Bob, make us love you.
Get this out, and you get da love!
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
Just throw strikes, Bob.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
wtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtf
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No movement on his fastball.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
Shanghai Badger -
You think Byrnes is an average defensive left fielder? I’d say he’s well above average, myself.
fair enough
but I’m not sure where you were going with it, anyway. care to elaborate?
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of people talk about Soriano's deficiencies on defense.
My contention is that, for a left fielder, he’s above average. Comparing him to players at other positions only goes so far. And there aren’t a lot of spry players at his position.
ok.
again, I wasn’t trying to dump on him—the intent was to point out that we’ve gone from, “Soriano sucks, he’s the worst ever” to instant HOF’er and Nobel Peace Prize winner.
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
uuugggghhh
I hate seeing Howry pitching in important spots right now. I hope he returns to form soon.
Whew.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Bob Howry gets da love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
As a singer,
Bob’s a pretty good color guy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sorry.
I couldn’t resist some good old Stoney Snark™
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ummmm
nice singing by special guest conductor Johnny Cakes
Fixed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
that's wrong
I think Bob would rather be compared to Cowher than Johnny Cakes.
True,
but he has an uncanny resemblance to Johnny Cakes.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I love me some BB
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Better
than all those linebackers..
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
Yeah.
Briggs was especially awful.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
My satellite just went on the fritz.
Dang it. I’ll be relying on you guys to keep me posted while I let the darn thing boot up again.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
Hunter
didn’t suck
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
Awful AB for Ronny. Yeesh.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
if that's an audition
I don’t know if Lou’s buying.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He did knock in the tying run.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
What did he do?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
I just had lunch. Do I have to?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Whiffed on some low-and-away slop from Yates.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I blinked
what happened to the bottom of the inning?
Yeah, my satellite is back and it's in commercial.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice to see Montague get the wide zone back with Yates on the mound.
Bob Howry would like to know where that call was a half-inning ago.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
wow I was in that thread for twenty minutes thinking were the heck did everyone go
lol whoops
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Good 58 foot pitch to start by Carlos.
But the next two were pretty good.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Filthy pitch by White Castle Carlos.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Way to get back on the horse against McClouth.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
howry cow! looked pretty good
got squeezed and an infield hit.
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
Yeah. Montague really worked him over.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Marmol's blood is a cure for cancer
The sad thing is, he never bleeds, ever.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
soriano's tears cure cancer
too bad he’s never cried.
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
Come on Carlos. Did Marquis rub off on you?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
Ed Montague, you, sir, are an ass.
Really inconsistent zone today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Bob says Geovany gives good meeting.
Will Carlos give good pitching?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
I love the way Soto works with the pitchers
He always knows just when to go out to the mound
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
No kidding.
Don’t give your kid the douchehawk; if your going to ‘hawk him, give him the full on mohawk.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
ha, im defn using "douchehawk" instead of fauxhawk
from now on
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
They showed some lady in the stands
messing with her kid’s hair.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Oh, filthy pitch by Carlos!!
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
White Castle!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Come on.
He went.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Replay looked like it was a good call, I hate to admit.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Maybe not.
It was close, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't think anyone watches it.
Despite all the ads on the Cubs games. Maybe White Sox fans watch it?
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
WHITE CASTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Filthy sliders!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, I'd like to get Woody into a non-save situation.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like the Cubs to bat around
and make it Chad Fox time.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
that would be a look of relief
on young Mr. Marmol’s face there…
2008: The year we put it all together.
Gotta love, Marmol!
Gave him that high cheese.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
I'd love for Kerry to get the save..
but I’d much rather we get a few more here…
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
3-pack crave sack
with high cheese, please
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
corner gas
has anyone seen the show? the promos look HORRIBLE
/sorry Stan Cox ; )
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
oops, already discussed
like 1 minute ago. oh well
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
Here's hoping
that 20 minutes from now, Chad Fox is trotting in to finish off a 12-3 Cub victory.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Perfect
that would be..
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
Good call. Dome went.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Bummer.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I really cant understand how ludwick is good now
by CubsBall2202 on May 18, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The power is real.
He’s hit for power in the minors, as well, but the consistency he had displayed is….odd.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Brewers in last place right now
they are playing shitty ball right now
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
A lot of guys
swinging from the heels, trying to jack the ball out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
On comes Woody.
Knock ‘em in the creek, Kerry.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ok, it's Woody time.
We need ya, Woody. Go out there and get them!
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
bucs, get ready to *kerry* your *wood* back to the dugout!!
/get it?
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
groooooaaaaaannnnnn.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
That sounds like something
a perverted schizophrenic would say…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
so does that mean?
in two years he will be bashed, having only favorite games to pitch in and favorite teams he will only pitch against and his kid will carry all of his stuff?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
no...
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
When they get back to the dugout with their "wood"...
what will they do with it?
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
they dont have izturis do they?
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
1 away! Nice scoop by Lee.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sorry, I was deliberately obtuse out of deference to others.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
Ronny Paulino:
PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Nice strike 3 Kerry!
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
that was sick!
howry cow wanted that call
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
What a waste pitch!!
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions
gotta defend the ump a bit
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 2-1, .667 (updated May 17)
He's called that a strike earlier.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
When did Bixler get patient?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah. Bixler vs. Wood is just not fair. A pitcher might've had a better shot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
That looks oddly familiar...
strangely similar to this:
.271/.352/.337
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Theriot's career line in the minors.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah. I saw that
but that’s only 280 AB’s, so I went with the career line.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It's real dangerous combining batting lines from multiple levels of the minors...
...without adjustments. Personally when trying to look at future performance, I throw out anything below AA anyway. (Obviously for players with a track record at AA or higher only.)
I see.
Bixler’s numbers are still really close to what Theriot did at AA and AAA.
Scary.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Bixler's numbers
are here
The similarities are striking. OTOH, it makes what Theriot is doing so far this year more impressive and more foreboding, all at once.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
So Bixler might get better!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sure.
The other thing I want to point up is that different skills translate to the majors differently.
Here’s a sample set of conversion factors for AAA players:
1B, 2B, 3B, HR, BB, K, SB, CS, OPS
.94, .90, 1.01, .70, .87, 1.20, .75, .95, .86
Those look a little suspect to me, still – the idea that a player’s triples INCREASES when he goes to the majors seems wrong, although maybe that’s an artifact of the huge drop in home runs. Note the substantial increase in strikeout rates and the decrease in walk rates.
Thanks.
I have never seen this before! It’s quite interesting. A prefatory comment before I have really digested all this, though: Bixler and Theriot seem to have roughly the same skill set: little power, lots of SB’s and 1B’s, so one might expect them, base on these conversion rates, to be roughly the same major league player, no? And all of this completely ignores defense, which, and I say this on very limited exposure to Bixler, coupled with Wilson’s injury may be the only thing keeping Bixler up here.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Haha.
Just caught the switch hitting thing…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
CUBS WIN!!!! CUBS WIN!!!! CUBS WIN!!!!!!
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
FLITHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
Cubs Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best homestand in 30 years, according to Len!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yeah!!!!
edmonds-o-meter updated!
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 3-1, .667 (updated May 18)
his name has to be darryl
darryl beaureghard most likely
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 3-1, .750 (updated May 18)
you sure he's not
a Maury, or a Lenny?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
could be lenny
maybe milton?
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 3-1, .750 (updated May 18)
yeah..
that’s what I thought….super fan!
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
Buls...Bears...Didka...Sausage...Sausage...Heart Attack...
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
Haha. LMAO :-)
BTW, although the Cards tied it up in the 8th at 4-4…they still have Izzy available in the bullpen to blow it.
Izzy's on the DL, no?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
he's still their best option currently
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Oh, yeah, he had that convenient "hand injury"
I forgot about that. They have some guy named Perez that just clocked a pitch at 98 MPH against the Rays.
Chris Perez.
One of their best pitching prospects.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
according to the TV, yes . . . .
I mean, because of
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I love this man!
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent
Now let’s clean up on the road!
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
I’d give anything to be there singing it with them.
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by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
amen.
Wish I’d been there today.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
NO way...
They look damn happy to me!!
"I realize very well that I could regress to the mean."
-Brian Bannister on his BABIP
a big win for us.
I recall a lot of warning track fly balls by them, and us not really hitting the ball well. We committed the sole error,and generally looked flat.
And yet, we won.
Championship teams do that.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, whadya say? The Cubs are going to win today!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 18, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
i swung the bat pretty well myself . . .
j/k i say “we” and “us” too
Cubs w/o Edmonds: 24-16, .600. Cubs w/ Edmonds: 3-1, .750 (updated May 18)
Lou is damning Jason with faint praise:
“Six innings of 3 run ball is good…..we’d like to see 7 innings of 3 run ball, but 6 is good.”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
heh
I saw that too. :D
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for posting this thread!
I forgot today. The Cubs won!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No problem, Al
Time for a solid road trip!
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
In the category of
“Underdog team being screwed by NBA referees” please tune in to the Cavs-Celtics matchup on ABC.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Boy I cannot wait for the ESPN game of the week tonight
About time they broadcast new york teams playing, I mean one week without them is just too much
by CubsBall2202 on May 18, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
As if we needed evidence
of Duty’s ineptitude, I submit the following:
In case you can’t tell, that is one Adam Dunn attempting a sacrifice bunt with two on, one out and the Reds down by one. Unfortunately, Dunn garnered two strikes and was forced to hit a walkoff, three-run homerun.
Boggles the mind.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
*Dusty's
gah. As if we need any more evidence of my ineptitude….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Hey, northsider,
you and I should try to get a PBP/color thing going on one of the game threads. It might be fun….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Seconded!
That would be really neat.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 18, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Shoot me an e-mail.
Have Al pass my e-mail along to you and maybe we can figure out a way to set this up. I thin it’d be a hoot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It would be really cool
if there was a streaming audio player on this page and we could connect to it with our microphones and headsets.
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The game thread would crash.
I’m wondering If SBNation is set up to do live blogs, though….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'm not set up for audio
but could they do that with a live blog?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Possibly. I see a lot of liveblogs on other, well, blogs.
KSK and FanHouse to name two.
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The KSK live blogs are hilarious
Totally NSFW, but hilarious.
Awful Announcing does great live blogs, too.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Like a chat room, I guess.
That might work….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
there are plenty
of free online chat rooms.
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by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
But then we couldn’t hang out with all of you wonderful people over Al Gore’s interwebz.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Skype!!!
That’s the answer! (j/k)
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
no, you could
post a link to the chat-room for the pbp/color. That’s all.
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by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way, gary,
did you see FJM recently?
Joe Morgan: When you have good starters, you always have a chance. Starting pitching is the most important part of your pitching staff. If they can take you deep into a game, it allows your bullpen to settle. I agree with your assessment—they do have a chance over the long haul to improve as a team.”...starting pitching is the most important part of your pitching staff.” See? Joe.
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I didn't see that.
But I’m completely amazed he’s said it twice in one lifetime. At least he said “staff” this time instead of “rotation” which makes it less stupid, but no less tautological.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Dear Joe Morgan,
Thanks for that tidbit of wisdom, Captain Obvious.
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by bluebythebook on May 18, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
can you imagine a game called by he and Madden.
John: “The team that score more than the other wins the game.”
Joe: “That’s right, John, in fact, if you can keep the other team from scoring, and scorea few yourself, you generally, most of the time, can usually pull out a win.”
John: “Exactly right, Joe, that’s why I always say the defense is the most important part of the offense.”
(awkward silence)
Joe: “I remember my first game for the Astros, when I broke up Walter Johnson’s no-hitter the day after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. That’s what really ended the Cold War.”
John: “BOOM!” (intelligible gurgling) See, Bret Favre is like the old Tony Romo….)trails off.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No one listening would have any clue what's going on.
They’d be missing pitches (passes?) left and right, too busy talking about the Big Red Machine and turducken.
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Yeah.
They could be calling a shuffleboard game and no one would be the wiser.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
LOL!
I was waiting for that shot from the Bucco troll we had the other day….He played for the Bucs after he left the Cubs and I seem to remember him putting a pretty good hurting on the Cubs in one game…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Looking at those career numbers, it must have only been one game.
sorry, GV.
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Oh, he was awful.
Absolutely no power.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Check this out:
Varsho, career: .244/.294/.355
Varsho, career vs. Cubs (90 PA): .284/.344/.568
tha sample sizes are pretty off, but he hit pretty well against the Cubs after he left.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Better than he did
Before he left. :)
Sorry. I can’t help it—you remember it being like that during the game, and now I’ve had a beer . . .
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He was killing the Cubs either way!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, but he's from Wisconsin!
Before you rip on that, remember Andy Pafko . . . .
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't he considered
to be managerial potential at one time?
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe he still is?
Joe Girardi just took out Wang, who had given up like 6 runs into the 8th, to bring in a reliever to …. intentionally walk the next hitter. The next batter up promptly lined a run-scoring single to RF. Brilliant.
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Yeah, that didn't make much sense
Only reason to do that is to make another change if a pinch-hitter comes in—but Castillo wasn’t coming out. Plus, it was already 7-2.
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Joe is butchering this game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I think he still is.
He’s been a bench coach for the Phils and now the Buccos. He may have to do a managerial stinit with a minor league club or two to tighten up the resume, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I can't let this go without quoting it for posterity:
You know what i like about that? He went around the bases. He hit it, then proceeded to go around the bases.– Joe Morgan, on Jose Reyes’ 3-run HR in the 8th inning, 5/18/08
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You gotta love a player that actually rounds the bases
after he hits a HR. That’s pretty grindy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
One thing about that old Reds team, they had 25 guys who would round the bases after home run.
Those were the good days, damn it.
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Yeah, these new guys just hit Hdance.R and then sit down.
They don’t grind out the trot like they used to do…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Is there any other way to play?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
"I've never seen a shortstop who couldn't dance."
(highlights of Jeter): look at that. SMOOTH.
(Reyes): boy, he does it different.
“If i had to describe them in football terminology, Jeter is a fullback. He does it with power. Reyes is a tailback.”
Since, you know, this is the most brilliantly clear comparison ever.
Recap:
Joe Morgan’s What Makes a Shortstop
1. Must be able to dance
2. Field with power and toughness, or
3. Field with finesse and speed
(Apparently no attention is paid to the fact that Jeter isn’t even the best SS on his team.)
“One more point I want to make about the SS. I make a point about rhythm and having to be able to dance. When I talk about Yunel Escobar of the Braves it looks like he’s playing shortstop to music. He can dance. I love watching shortstops. They’re all so smooth. Just a tough position to play.”
When Ryan Theriot uncorks throws across the diamond to 1B, it’s just like a dance. I won’t see which one.
Jon talking about emerging SSs in the NL. God please do not mention Ryan Theriot. YES. Crisis averted.
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*won't SAY which one
I’ll leave that to you, fair fellow commenters.
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I suppose if D-Lee can't dig it out
It could be the “Safety Dance”
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way, doesn't it seem like a certain second baseman is p!ss3d that he wasn't good enough to play SS?
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Who?
Not Morandini II?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
No, you've got it wrong.
Joe’s probably got into his head that since he knows the necessary tools to be a good shortstop , he could’ve been awesome at that, too.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh yes, how foolish of me.
He only played second so someone else could have a chance to play short. What’s that other guy’s name? Not important right now. TEAM FIRST
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Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The Chicken Polka?
BTW, this might be the dumbest thing Morgan’s ever said. It’s gotta be a Dancing with the Stars finale sgue or something. He can’t be that aloof and stupid.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He can't be that stupid?
Damn, Gary . . . I thought you knew baseball.
:)
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Dancing, though?
How could he be serious? That’s just so dumb.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Par for the course
Remember the nonsense in the Cubs-Mets Sunday night game about the winds at Wrigley Field blowing opposite in one spot? Or forgetting Castillo started in the NL?
Joe’s pretty much a dope.
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That Castillo thing was hilarious.
I laughed the rest of the game about that.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
They're talking about Soriano right now.
Unfortunately no insight from Joe on what parts of his game Soriano learned from/copied. Not the 2nd base part, apparently. Soriano: not a dancer. He’ll hop though.
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Checklist:
1. Dance? Check.
2. Power? He runs pretty hard. Check.
3. Finesse? Excuse me, have you seen the hop? Check.
Soriano passes.
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That might be the most inexplicable part
of that comment. Has Joe seen Cory Schlesinger run? It’s not a pretty sight. It’s damn long way from Jeter’s gallop. The man has a mind made of mush.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on May 18, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Some would say
he wouldn’t be any worse than what we have . . . not saying I’m one of them, just sayin . . .
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to bed.
If I listen to any more Morgan and Miller, I’m going to have Kafka dreams.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, time to pull the plug
Good night, gentlemen.
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
God is merciful.
The game is over.
What a sweet gig though. Work one game a week, travel all over, watch lots of baseball, and not have to actually understand jack about it. Where do I sign up?
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Try the Trib or Sun Times
They might need another columnist
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I said one game a week, not never show up to the game or locker room at all!
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That honor is reserved
For Mr. Mariotti
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright, now I really am going
Looking forward to the Varsho/Northsider broadcast
by Shanghai Badger on May 18, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto.
It has ‘legendary’ written all over it.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 18, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sooo hanging that picture in my locker!
/dreamy sigh
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by bluebythebook on May 18, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
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