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Greatest Catch Ever?

After Edmonds' catch last night and the argument of whose catch was better,  Edmonds' or Reed's, I was wondering what everybody thought was the greatest catch they've ever seen.  I was curious to find out what everybody thought about:

1.  Whose was better:  Edmonds' or Reed's?

2.  What is the greatest catch in Cubs history?

3.  What is the greatest catch in MLB history?

If you have links to any of the catches you name, that would be awesome.  Interested to hear what other people think.  Thanks.

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I guess I should give you my answers

1. Reed’s
2. Reed’s
3. Jim Edmonds’ over the shoulder/back dive in 1997 for the Angels. I still can’t believe that catch when I see it.

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by McRipper on May 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

MLB took it off Youtube. I’m sure it’s out there somewhere. They showed it last night after last night’s catch.

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by McRipper on May 20, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reeds
Sam Fuld--his ribs still hurt—now have fun in TN
Gary Matthews Jr

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by Hammer on May 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

forgotten catch

I remember back in maybe 2001, gary matthews jr with the cubs, making a sliding catch in center where the ball came out of his glove, and at the last second reached back to catch it barehanded. personally thought that one was just as good as the one that he made last year which i think won an ESPY. Does anyone have a clip of the one i’m talking about?

by bsm9 on May 20, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a different view of the difficulty of both of these catches.

1)Reed has the benefit of being able to track the ball as he ran towards it which would help him to time his dive. JE has the problem of having the ball hit directly over hits head which is the toughest of all. I’m not going to debate whether he should be playing deeper or whether he plays up the dramatic. JE made a great catch on a very difficult play. Reed made a great diving catch on a ball as it approached the wall. I would favor Reed/s catch as being better only because he had to not only catch the ball, but hold on as he hit the wall. JE was able to stay on his feet w/ no wall to content with.
2) I really can’t recall any catch better than Reed’s, but my memory ain’t what it used to be.
3) Gary Matthew’s catch over the wall against the Royals was one of the most unforgettable catchs that I can recall. JE’s dive is right up there as well.

The funny thing about JE’s catch last night is all of the angst that it’s causing for fans who don’t want to cheer for JE. Many are saying Pie makes this catch easy. This we will never know. I do know that if Pie had made the catch, then everyone would be saying no way JE would have made it. For what it’s worth, I was against signing JE and sending Pie down. This doesn’t change my opinion, but it was a heck of a catch.

by billybuck on May 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It WAS a heck of a catch...

but I don’t think it’s irrational to say that Pie (who is much faster and generally plays a deeper CF) makes that catch more easily. Conversely, if Pie had to make the same type of catch (the over-the-shoulder basket catch part), it’s completely logical to say that Edmonds would have had no chance at it, because he’s slower and because he plays more shallow.

It was a great catch. One can say it’s a great catch and believe that the play would have been easier for Pie at the same time. The two are not mutually exclusive. As has been said before, Edmonds’ value over Pie won’t be decided by his defense, because both are pretty darn good at that. It will be decided by how much more (if anything more at all) Edmonds can provide with the bat.

by SouthernCub on May 20, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's debatable

A lot of people believe that Pie’s defense is vastly superior to Edmonds.

by californiachicagoan on May 20, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a tough one.

I recall a couple of catches by Kenny Lofton and Ken Griffey Jr. when they were younger that could rank as “best ever”. Wish I could remember specific dates/situations on these, but I don’t.

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by Al on May 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I too

was remembering some of Lofton’s homerun robbing catches. Man he was good.

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by McRipper on May 20, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

J Jones catch last year

Jacque Jones made a spectacular catch last year too. He and I don’t remember the RF almost collided mid-air. Not saying it was the best catch ever but it definitely deserves to be up there as well.

by ak123 on May 20, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greatest catch ever?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice work SWL!

...looks like this Photoshop thing of yours is growing on you!

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by IowaCubs- on May 20, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1) Johnson
2) Johnson
3) There are three catches that I can remember seeing that I want to mention here, the first two have already been mentioned (Johnson’s and GMJr’s last year). The third is the catch that David Wright made either last year or the year before, diving away from the infield while making the catch with his bare hand (you can get to the clip this way http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050810&content_id=1164571&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym
It’s the only clip I could find.

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by gwood on May 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

answers

1. Reed’s
2. No idea
3. Edmonds in 97

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-1 (.800), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 20, 2008 10:37 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs History

Almost fogot this one but does anybody remember when K Wood caught that comebacker with a backhanded no look stab at the ball? It was unbelievable and that might have to be considered as well.

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by McRipper on May 20, 2008 10:41 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

That would probably be my vote for #2.

As far as #3, I can’t speak for all of history, but in recent memory I’d say either Gary Matthews Jr’s catch last year or Manny Ramirez’s catch, high-five the fan, turn and throw out the runner from last week. Maybe not the best but certainly my favorite.

by Wreckard on May 20, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There have been so many...

...great catches, you could go on forever listing them.

One that I think does not get it’s just due, was the one Uribe made in game 4 of the World Series with the game very close. He timed going into the stands perfectly, and was able to reach way in to make a great catch under very tough circumstances.

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by MPH73 on May 20, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Derek Jeter...

... made a catch like that vs. the Red Sox in a game in 2004.

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by Al on May 20, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of all people...

.... Kevin Mitchell, when he was with the Giants in the late 80’s, once caught a ball barehanded in the LF corner. Even he couldn’t believe it. They used to show this on all the “amazing plays” shows.

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by Al on May 20, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mitchell's catch

I remember that one and it was spectacular. Forget about Wheaties, Vick’s Vapo-Rub is the true breakfast of champions. If that hadn’t been part of his diet, he probably would have broken his hand on that catch.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 20, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember that but I can't count that

Great plays due to the player initially misplaying the ball don’t count.

by rlpete on May 20, 2008 11:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point

And he probably misplayed it because his eyes were still watering after eating his daily dollop of Vapo-Rub.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 20, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't

Kirby Pucket make a similar barehanded catch?

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by gwood on May 20, 2008 2:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bo Jackson made a couple of amazing catches.

I faintly remember one where he”walked” up the wall in Kauffman Stadium, which was a freaking cavern when he played there.

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by gary varsho on May 20, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw

Griffey do that in the Kingdome in his youth. Most amazing thing I have seen an outfielder do.

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by Tekboy on May 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ichiro

made a catch last year I think, where he climbed up the wall, turned around, and caught the ball. Amazing play!

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by Tekboy on May 20, 2008 11:01 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Based on just the catch

the Edmonds and Matthews, Jr catches were possibly the best.

Considering the situation and it pains me to say it, but Ron Swoboda’s in the ‘69 series was pretty darn good.

by rlpete on May 20, 2008 11:01 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about

Hirosho Kamakaze Tanaka from Major League 2

He climbed the wall and stood on top of it.

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by Hammer on May 20, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent!!!

That catch took some big marbles!!

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by McRipper on May 20, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't Ivan Calderone

make a catch like that when he was with the White Sox?

Formerly NO100

by jerry morales rules on May 20, 2008 11:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about this one?

Willie Mays "The Catch"

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by Jettero2112 on May 20, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha

If he made that catch today people would be clammoring about how Pie would have been camped under it.

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by Hammer on May 20, 2008 11:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

My point

I dont discount the play Edmonds made last night. I rewatched it many times and I think he got a good jump on the ball and the ball tailed towards his right shoulder.

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by Hammer on May 20, 2008 11:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That crappy hill in CF

didn’t help either. looks like he caught it just as he was stepping up to it. They really should get rid of it and that pole as well.

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by Jettero2112 on May 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldnt agree more

Its like a softball field that has the light poles INSIDE the fence. WTF

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by Hammer on May 20, 2008 11:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or the old endzones

with the goal posts in play. Who are the ad wizards that came up with that one?

Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.

by neverAcquiesce on May 20, 2008 12:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My theory

Pie would have definitely gotten to that ball before Edmond’s did. I don’t think he would have made the play though, I think he would have probably gotten to that hill and lost his footing, I’m sure this has happened many times before.
I think Reed’s catch this year is one of the best catches I have ever seen but as much as I don’t like Jim Edmonds, his catch in ‘97 was the greatest of all time.

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by TommyD on May 20, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The ball was caught before the hill...

So if you think Pie would have gotten there, then the hill wouldn’t have been a factor. Edmonds made the catch short of the hill, then reached the Hill a step or two after the catch.

I agree that Edmonds’ catch back with the Angels is probably the greatest catch of all time. A full-speed dive away from the batter is really impressive.

by SouthernCub on May 20, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just saying

that when he was slowing down, he would have taken a step or two on the hill before the ball got there. one stumble could have botched the catch.

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by TommyD on May 20, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suspect...

that he would have slowed down a the warning track and been fine. But, it’s all speculation of course.

by SouthernCub on May 20, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no - it was caught on the upslope of the hill

watch it again. i linked to it in my fanpost.

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-1 (.800), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 20, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-1 (.800), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 20, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

catches

that matthews jr catch was unforgettable but i gotta say anytime prince fielder can actually catch a ball is good. j/k

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by cubsluver22 on May 20, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

video

video links would help this post greatly.

by SleepyLaBeef on May 20, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here ya go.

“The Catch”

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by Jettero2112 on May 20, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah... Edmonds plays in just so he could hotdog it...

What nonsense. He plays in so he can make the highlight reels? I completely disagree with this.

He plays in to keep runners in check and hold them from advancing. The fact that he has such good range behind him is a product of knowing the pitching situation and anticipating where the ball will be hit. Not many outfielders can do this with ease—having the ability to correctly judge the distance, speed and arc of a ball hit in either direction, not just speed. Edmonds has the ability to do this.

Pie has a plus arm and average range in spite of his speed. Edmonds has an average arm and plus range in spite of his speed, but makes up for it by playing closer to the infield. I think I’d rather have the range.

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by IowaCubs- on May 20, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pie - Average range? I disagree.

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 20, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pie had great range

I’m not sure what you are smoking, but he has tracked down balls that were sure doubles.

by californiachicagoan on May 20, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Made One Once...

Haha… I know this doesn’t count, but still… haha. During a Babe Ruth League game… I was playing deep and the hitter nailed one straight to me in center. I didn’t even move my feet. I stood there, standing straight, held out my glove, and made a basket catch. The coach, realizing how important the catch was, had a cow yelling at me because of my lack of effort. The yelling took place from the second the ball was hit until I made it to the dugout, still, he hugged me and was very glad I still caught the ball.

ah, those teenage days… Maybe the only time in our life where we look back at some screwups with fondness. Notice I said some...

by TheHawkRules on May 20, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Check this one out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwuWPRG72ZY&feature=related

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by Bump Bailey on May 20, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2006 NLCS

Endy Chavez’s catch, considering the circumstances especially, warrants mention here and in any thread discussing the greatest catches ever.

by MisterWinter on May 20, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not amazing, but memorable

Gary Matthews, Sr. in 1984 catching a ball and doing a sort of reverse-sommersault. After that picture was in the Trib, his defense seemed to get better. . . but then, that was 24 years ago.

by Shanghai Badger on May 20, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dwight Evans and Endy Chavez

I think a lot of this has to do with game circumstances and a crucial catch in a post season game is always going to seem more important.
I doubt it is considered in the top 10 catches and I only vaguely remember what it ACTUALLY looked like but for me Dwight Evans catch in game 6 of the 75 World Series was the best. It was the 12th inning and he caught what would a homer off Joe Morgan.
It was the most unbelievable play of the what I still believe is the greatest game of all time.

I also concur with the other poster re Endy Chavez. To make catches like that in
do or die post season games is on another level to me

by Doggie Stalker on May 20, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed re: Endy Chavez.

Had forgotten about that one.

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by Al on May 20, 2008 3:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Context Matters

(1) Reed over Edmonds only because I saw it live and it from 450 feet away it made my jaw drop. It was an unbelievable catch.

(2) Not enough of a Cubs historian to give an answer here definitively, but its tough to imagine one better than Reeds.

(3) Its got to be Mays. That wasn’t just any old catch, it was in the World Series. Edmonds over-the-shoulder dive in 97 was amazing, as was Matthews’ leap over the wall in Kansas City a couple years back. But doing it in a random game during the Regular Season is a far cry from doing it in the World Series. Mays on that basis alone.

by Orval Overall on May 20, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry could not find a link but

I would have to say the diving catch by ozzie smith. The ball took a bad hop as he was diving for it, and caught it bare handed as he was in mid dive. absolutelty amazing ozzie.

by nks6911 on May 20, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

David Wright Bare Handed

Im sure even people who hate the Mets can appreciate Wrights talents….heres my favorite one, bare handed back to the ball against the Friars.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6021248157789482051&q=david+wright+bare+hand+catch&ei=EjIzSIS7D5GIrQL-j6T_Ag&hl=en

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by bren on May 20, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here is a nominee for greatest catch ever.

In the 1947 World Series, little-used Dodger OF Al Gionfriddo made a running catch of a Joe DiMaggio fly ball that saved Game Six and forced a Game Seven. Here’s a good description:

There were 74,065, a World Series record, on hand at Yankee Stadium on a beautiful day for baseball. Most of them had come to see the home team, now leading 3 games to 2, wrap up another world championship Allie Reynolds started for the Yankees against little left-hander Vic Lombardi for the Dodgers. Neither would be around when the game ended.

“Dem Bums” had made up a 5-4 deficit against reliever Joe Page, taking an 8-5 lead as the game moved to the bottom of the sixth inning. As the Dodgers took the field Gionfriddo was put in for defensive purposes.

A George Stirnweiss walk, a two out single by Berra set the stage for Joe DiMaggio – the potential tying run. The Yankee Clipper mashed the first pitch he saw from Dodger reliever Joe Hatten. Dodger broadcaster Red Barber shouted:”Back, back, back” as Gionfriddo raced toward the bullpen railing. He lost his cap, turned, leaped, stuck out his glove. The catch was made just to the left of the 415-foot. marker in front of a low metal gate.

It was said that the catch was one of the greatest in baseball history. It was said that the moment was the only time Joe DiMaggio ever showed real emotion on the ball field. In disbelief as he neared second base, DiMag shook his head and kicked at the dirt.

The game lasted three hours and 19 minutes. There were a total of 38 players used. Brooklyn hung on to eke out an 8-6 win and force a seventh game which the Yankees won.

And Gionfriddo? He joined Bill Bevens and Cookie Lavagetto after the series ended in the distinction of never ever playing in another major league game.

Here’s a photo:

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by Al on May 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Considering our current opponent,

The greatest almost catch of September 19, 2007 was this non-webgem

Wait for it, wait for it….ahh, third replay is the charm.

HAPPY 100th ANNIVERSARY, CUBS FANS!!!!

by section229beer on May 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude. that was cold

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on May 20, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(ouch)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

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