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Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Wednesday 5/21, 7:05 CT

Let's take this series.

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yep

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please tell CUBS

game is more than 1 inning long! Wake up!

by JoToPo on May 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe this thread will bring us more luck.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

or not

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe not.... damn.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poop

Time for Leiber…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

double crud.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Not lookin like our night

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep the faith.

With our bats and that park, there’s always a chance.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya, just looks like were not having very good at bats tonight

Too many hacks at pitches out of the strike zone

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou leaves them in too long

in my expert baseball knowledge ;-)

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Gallagher is somewhat

an unknown quantity. Got to figure him out.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has good stuff, I hope he gets another start

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I may need to get off here

I’m getting pissed off too much to type non-curse words

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

type 'em if you have to - just hit the cancel button at the end.

Or do the “daggumit”, “gee whiz”, “gosh darn it” thing. Or my dad’s favorite – “balderdash!”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's early yet.

We can do this. It’s only two runs.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe but i have that sinking feeling

need Chacon outta there first

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on May 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go hawks

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Magic

BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!

by Zy Toro Young on May 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stephen A. Smith

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

double ick

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Patience..

Plenty of time…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

be back in a bit

need dinner—maybe things will start to look up while I’m cooking sigh

by slcathena on May 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

At least the park is conducive to a comeback...

Gallagher just didn’t seem to have it tonight. Hopefully the bullpen can shut them down and we can make a comeback.

by SouthernCub on May 21, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Wuertz

Has been good lately..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Reminds me of Eric Byrnes with the way he goes all out for everything

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe it's time

to go watch American Idol with the girlfriend….

"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." Frank Costello

by kalamazoo_cubs_fan on May 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

It's fixed..

that little kid will win..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah - stay with the Cub game

and then check out this web site later – http://mackennasgoldenidols.blogspot.com/

I used to work with this guy – he is one funny dude. Used to send out e-mail recaps after every episode of Beverly Hills 9021564928 or whatever that was. Cracked me up every time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

He looks like he has a pole up his...

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Wuertz not even close

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Wuertz really gets on my nerves..

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

"worst"

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

groan

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

ARGH!

two walks? Walking TOWLES???

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Soto

saved one there

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Wuertz is pitching like hes afraid to get hit

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

or he thinks he is Marmol

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 21, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He crushed it

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

not really.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

another whew! inning

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

why is pence

batting so low in the order?

by bheidge on May 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Fookie Lee Ramirez, make something happen

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

amen!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he gets another ND or maybe a big L

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Major Texas Big Hair

on that woman behind home plate

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Do they..

Actually think guys like that?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

guys of a certain age

yes

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stone Age

maybe

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"They"

I think that lady is on her own on that on.

BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!

by Zy Toro Young on May 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"They"

I think that lady is on her own on that one.

BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!

by Zy Toro Young on May 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Chacon pitch against us at wrigley? I think he may have pitched that saturday game

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

just not hitting the ball

100%. We’re getting 85-90% each time.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

That was

a pretty quiet inning.

by Morg98 on May 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow we really packed it in after that first inning

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Chicon

is managing us pretty well.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Not that I disagree with you but our patience at the plate has been dismal. How many walks have we drawn tonight? You have to make the pitcher work.

by muffman on May 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disappointing So Far

We should be hammering Houston’s pitching but instead we’re gonna lose 2 of 3.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Houston looks about ready to break it open this inning

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Radio Stat....

....15 of last 16 retired by Chacon.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we

all need the day off tomorrow to regroup.

by sue369 on May 21, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

True, we've had a long, long strech of games without an offday, tomorrow is much needed

Then we regroup in pittsburgh with Z

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if this game ends with the way it is now. Why can’t we just play every game at Wrigley.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh oh... here it comes...

this year’s American Idol winner is…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

David!!!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked. Shocked.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK now I really am kinda surprised

thought it was Auschuletta. Poor Cook. Woulda been better had he lost. Not that I really care.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

hey I’m watching the Cubs aren’t I?

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

upset

thought all the tweenies would vote for the other david

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

whazzup with ump?

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

oh. pace o' game

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

All these walks kinda make me feel discouraged

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

It’s the three hits to Michael Bourn that discourage me.

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's been the key to the game so far

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

these umps suck

there, I said it. Jeepers.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea they are timing Eyre now!

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Knock on Wood,

but Berkman has done little against us.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Side Note:

ATL is putting beating on NYM

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

For real..

I wouldn’t count Atlanta out…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

SB by Matsui

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

That happens too often.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

Lieber was coming in to pitch to Berkman?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Got him!

ok. Let’s GO NOW. OPEN UP THE WUPASS.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

LETS GET SOME RUNS!

My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th

by Rudey on May 21, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Somebody apparently played a clip...

...of Earl Weaver ripping into Terry Crowley during the Yankees-Orioles broadcast. Wow. (Warning: the F-bomb occurs.)

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm off to bed.

Maybe that will bring them luck. Keep cheering them on.

by sue369 on May 21, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

sleep tight

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Few thoughts...

...Gallagher had some nerves tonight and showed his youth.

Cub Pitchers need to hold runners on base.

Doesn’t Joe West remind you of Charlie Weiss?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 21, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

he took it to Berkman, tho.

That takes some guts.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did...

...but so did Eyre, which tells me Berkman is in a bit of a funk right now.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said the same last night about West.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad...

...B-Webb lost tonight. I was tired of hearing about him!

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Have we forgot

how to take walks all of a sudden?

by Morg98 on May 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

They're Pressing

You can tell when the club is trying to do too much because the BBs go right out the window and they revert to the Hackalicious Dusty offense.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

like Soto just did.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

HACIM!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Hoff!

almost out

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

HELL YEAH KIDDO!

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

aiight

let’s keep it goin!!

by noiseboy on May 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Hoff

why wasn’t he running hard the whole way????

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's go Jimmy,

prime time for first Cubbie HR.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Everyone’s first Cubbie HR this year has been big! Johnson, Dome, Pie

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welp

I have officialy gone insane listening to the Houston Astros Radio Network. That old man has drove me insane. Very possibly the worst radio network I have heard in the majors.

by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on May 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Milo Hamilton

he once was the cubs radio guy

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Milo

was there when radio started..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He got around...

Used to do radio for the Pirates when I was a kid. “Lanny & Milo”. (Lanny Frattare) Milo was actually pretty decent back then.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was Bob Prince

around then too?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Prince & Nellie King...

Bob Prince did radio for the Pirates from 1948-1975 with a variety of partners, including two years (55-56) by himself. Then Lanny & Milo took over and a few others after that until Prince came back for a swan song in 1985.

Prince & King was the team I remember most (1967-1975). Many a night I snuck a transistor radio under the pillow after ‘Lights out!’ so I could listen to Prince & King on “KDKA Pittsburgh,1020”. Ah, those were the days…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did that too..

Prince was good…..KDKA must have had a strong signal…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was in Ohio at the time (near Cleveland)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got it here in Chicago..

a little static but listenable…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here

Lanny Frattare still is doing Pirates games.

Milo did Bucs games after Prince was axed. Milo was in Atlanta for years before that.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 21, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time for Edmonds to do nothing again

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You have to admit...

...Hoffpaiur is making it difficult for Edmonds to get another double play.

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

more baseball smarts from Jim Edmonds.

mutter.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

one more biscuit for breakfast

and edmonds would have had one

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a stupid thing to say

I guess Mark Belanger would have no place on your team, huh?

And after all of four games, we render judgment on Edmonds?

Good heavens, folks …

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 21, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please.

We have three seasons of declining production prior to this year and his abysmal performance to start the season in San Diego to look at, in addition to four games with the Cubs. Swapping laundry is unlikely to change the way Edmonds plays – we know that ballplayers tend to decline in their later years, and we have a ton of evidence that Edmonds is in decline.

This isn’t some rook with a minor league track record, or a veteran that’s simply had a few bad games in a row. This is a guy we picked up off the scrap heap after getting released. We can look at his record over the past few seasons. We can look at the typical aging patterns of major league players.

If people were calling him washed up based upon only these four games, they’d be wrong. But in the context of his past performances, it’s not an invalid conclusion.

by cwyers on May 22, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That might very well be the case

And it wouldn’t shock me if, after 2-3 weeks, that’s the way it panned out.

I think after four games, however, it’s a little hasty to do that. Otherwise, why sign him in the first place? But that’s another issue.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2008 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least the runner moved up I guess

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone listening to the radio...

...knows that I hate it when Pat Hughes gets me excited like he just did.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya thats always the worst

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Derrick Rose?

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

cmon, Mark...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

crap.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

ehhhhhhhhh

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Dero is worthless on the road

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

really?

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh...

no….

But the team in general does seem to struggle on the road.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, it's true this year...

he’s hitting .158/.279/.246 this year on the road coming into tonight.

by SouthernCub on May 21, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

we have 2 hits since the first

one was just stranded and the other was picked off

by grifdog on May 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

These guys are pissing me off the past two games.

Look like the old Cubs.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

small ball

has been a rarity these past two games

by noiseboy on May 21, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you watching the same game I am? It aint pretty and it aint CY Young!

by muffman on May 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

really

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard To Forget The Past

I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.....

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Yeah

Just when it looked like the Cubs would ride momentum far into October they get swept by the DBax. Not to mention 2004, 2003, 1998, 1989, 1984, 1969….

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those weren't

this team.

This team can do it.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

hear hear

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure Hope So

I was just trying to say that you can’t blame people for being jaded after all those years, especially when the team looked to have finally turned things around.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

dood.

Even if we lose tonight, we’re still 9 games over .500. It’s May 21st. Save it for September.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do too.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh

Might be the tonic these guys need.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

we do like to take it

to the bucs. 4 of 6 for the road-trip isn’t the best, but a sweep wouldn’t go amiss.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sunny side

The storm and its fury broke today,
Crushing hopes that we cherish so dear;
Clouds and storms will, in time, pass away
The sun again will shine bright and clear.

[cho:] Keep on the sunny side, always on the sunny side,
Keep on the sunny side of life
It will help us ev'ry day,
It will brighten all the way
If we'll keep on the sunny side of life

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

should have previewed that one

sorry folks.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya, I probably would be more concerned but worst that can happen is still 9 games over .500

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope not.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 21, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Sean Marshall

will be brought up as soon as he is stretched out enough to start.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 21, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto!

One more start and he should be ready.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

God I hope so.

Marshall’s better than both these clowns.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him get another start

I like his stuff

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if

Marshall or Hart are ready, they come up and Asciano does back down.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He will surely be the next send-down.

Hopefully it isn’t for Chad Fox though. He needs to get straightened out!

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It`s Time

Well, we`re waiting!!!

by muffman on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

3 runs

does not win games – we need some runs!!

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

It wins SOME games.

Giving up a three run lead doesn’t win games.

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worked against Webb tonight.

Just sayin.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It should have really

0-2 hanging curveball to a power hitter is asking to get your next start at Iowa

by grifdog on May 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boy wouldn't it be great if...

...Chacon gets another ND. That would be 10 in a row

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

team

forgot how to score

by bheidge on May 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

And as you see tonight,

he can play LF when Fonzie rests, every 12th day.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he meant "worsatility"?

I know you did… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me be clear, I don't like having Fontenot around in particular.

But seriously, Hoffpaiur doesn’t bring anything to the table that Ward doesn’t. Since we’re committing to carrying 12 pitchers, we need to get as much out of the bench as possible. Having two guys who can only play the least challenging defensive positions really shorts the bench even futher.

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

A couple of wide loads like Ward and Hoffpauir

would ‘short’ any bench… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

grumpy dugout

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

geez

we cannot catch a BREAK.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

good catch by Berkman, alas

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

SD just put a 2 spot up on the Cards

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

alright gotta regroup, come out better on friday

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

God do we have a freaking dinner reservation?

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Suggested Acquisition

If SF falls way out of it by the All Star break, then I’d call Brian Sabean and see about Omar Vizquel. Then The Riot can share 2nd with DeRo and Fontenot can grab a bus to Iowa.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure that I don't like it.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Omar Can Still Pick It

Showed good leather today at Coors

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or..

Onedec goes to short and The Riot subs at 2nd and short…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

bingo

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Could Work

Theriot’s range isn’t that great for SS, would work better if he played 2nd

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

His natural position...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let Riot be the utility

bench infielder. Ondec at Short, DeRo at 2nd.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's that?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never heard of him.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Most Cub fans that read the rumors in the winter haven’t either.

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who is this man you speak of..

In my country there is a man…...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh great... another thread about nothing...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jambalaya!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 21, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howry

seems to have it goin’ on, at least.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

just finding the positive. :D

If Howry can pick it up like this, that means Marmol can be saved for really critical games, making him, if possible, even more effective.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we can get a lead, I say leave him in.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Good Howry

Would help greatly. Like Brenly said, it narrows things down to a 6 inning game if the Cubs have a lead into the 7th.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice

3 Ks for Howry.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh thank God!

I was worried about my frail health if we couldn’t get through Towles/Erstad/Bourne cleanly at this point.

by cwyers on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey

baby steps. :D Besides, it’s not like Bourne is a patsy or anything.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Runs!

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Valverde

Suggestion, try hitting the opposite way!He`s going to pitch you away. Quit trying to pull everything!

by muffman on May 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Get In His Head

and use his emotions against him

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never ever threw lee a strike.

by muffman on May 21, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Aram

working a good count.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

WALKED!

Here comes the HOFF POWER!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Ball 4

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol! Len says

A good night for Micah. Oh, I didn’t mean to say formica! I really didn’t.

OK. Go Cubs.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

HAHAHA

Len’s cool, I like him

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoff

Nice time for that first Cubbie HR Power v.s Power

by cubfan06 on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Hoff the Hero?

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

ARGH

Why is it rookies ALWAYS strike out??! Don’t they walk in the minors?

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoff Ks

So… now it’s up to…

dum dum dum… our favorite catcher!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

What is with

us swinging at balls from this guy? He just walked ARam and Micah comes out and swings at three straight balls. Hard to believe. You’ve never seen this pitcher young man, TAKE A PITCH.

by paulucla on May 21, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

that's it.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

poo

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

TERRIBLE

FREAKING APPROACH BY HOFF AND SOTO.

by paulucla on May 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Trying to be Heroes

Instead of taking what you’re given.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

alright. shake it off

We’re 9 games over .500, and even if the Cards win, we’re still in first place. We own the Pirates. We’ll get back those losses.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Day off tomorrow

we need a break – bring on the Pirates!!!!

Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984

by Cub Fan Mike on May 21, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

This Team Needs

A collective joint to pass around and take the edge off.

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Irey mon

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 21, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Night guys

Bugger. I need sleep.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Teams that win big at home and scuffle on the road

generally have a mental toughness issue. It also seems like we get awfully impatient with our at bats on the road. I would bet that the walks drawn number on the road is several lower than home games. My guess is this lack of toughness is Lou’s next “project”.

by VolPowers on May 21, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

certainly

there were few walks tonight.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sucks To Lose

However we’re heading to Pittsburgh, and the lack of patience seems to be more a “bad habit” thing than turning back into pumpkins. Establishing a winning road record would sure allay a lot of my concerns!

by SecondSon on May 21, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, if we can start winning in strings of a couple in a row on the road

I would say we’d be on the cusp of stating our case for the long haul. We’ve got to start pitching better with the lead as well. We need a little more sack from the starters collectively than we’ve seen when the bags fill up.

by VolPowers on May 21, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone watching the Cards game?

Pujols lined one off Chris Youngs HEAD and then when sliding home, Pujols took out the catcher with what looked like a broken ankle. The entire battery out in three plays by one guy. Ouch.

by louslovechild on May 21, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

My $.02 on the Cubs

1. 30% of the Cubs home schedule will be done as of the end of the month.

They will HAVE to learn how to win series against Central rivals if they want to repeat as Champs.

2. Another week of Edmonds, and I think it will be enough. Gimme Reed, and screw the platoon until Pie discovers “Bat, meet ball.”

3. Mr. Gallagher = Welcome to the Majors! The Astros are not the Lansing Lugnuts.

4. Soriano – we want the “good” streak, again.

5. Still in first (barely), and Z meets the Pirates to start the weekend. Maybe, MAYBE the team can win 2 of 3 in Pitt for a coveted .500 road trip?

by The E-Man on May 21, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, come on.

Still in first.

Nine games over .500.

Off to beat the tar out of the Pirates.

This is NOT the 2006 team.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 21, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stayed away from the game thread tonight

because I was afraid I’d see stuff like this.

Good God, people, have some perspective.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 21, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same Crap

These are our road loses on the season this year.

5-3
4-2
9-0
5-3
5-3
5-3
2-0
5-3
4-2
7-1
5-3

We just don’t pitch or hit the same on the road. We either need the pitching to allow 2 runs or less, or score 5-6 runs a game more often on the road. The key of playing better on the road is a litlte of both. But on the road were getting the same the pitching gives up 5-6 runs and we can only score 2-3. It’s happen in what 8 of our road loses now. This needs to change and soon, if this team is going to win the division this year. I’m sick of playing like crap on the road, falling out of first, then have to go home and play great baseball to turn things around.

by cubsfan25 on May 21, 2008 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Did they fall out of first tonight?

I didn’t realize that.

And has it happened a lot this year? I didn’t think so.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 21, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still

have a one game lead on the Cards and 1 and half on Astros.

by cubsfan25 on May 21, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, St Louis ain't going away any time soon

I agree their pitching is going to level off but their hitting isn’t and they seem to pound on teams once they get the lead. This will be a race and we can’t have dopey rookies hanging curveballs to the best hitters in the game. We have to start winning some of these road series before it creeps into our psyche. Starting palying with some more life and SWEEP PITTSBURGH!

by Itchy on May 22, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

What hitting?

They’re 10th in NL batting. They’re behind the Cubs,Pittsburgh and Houston in the NL Central. You get past AP and Ludwick, (who will level off eventually) I don’t see much else.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has anybody ever considered

that maybe, just maybe, the Astros pitched pretty well the past two days?

Chacon was dealing after the first couple of innings. The ball looked like it was falling off a table. And Sampson has the Cubs’ number, no doubt about it.

Instead of every loss being the Cubs’ fault, maybe we should acknowledge other teams have some good performances sometimes, too.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 21, 2008 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Fair point

And in reality, it’s probably a combination of both. At least it’s not like we were blown out in the games we lost.

by Brett Taylor on May 22, 2008 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is no question....

...the Stros outpitched the Cubs in games 2 and 3.

That happens sometimes.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 22, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

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