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Off Day Fun: Ship of Fools

The Cubs are taking the day off, maybe we should, too. So, for this "Off Day Fun," I want to know about the dumbest thing you've ever seen on a baseball diamond. It could be a managerial decision, like so:

Dunnbunt1_medium

via bp3.blogger.com

That's Adam Dunn squaring to bunt with one out, two on and the Reds down by one in the bottom of the ninth. This isn't an invitation to Dusty-bash, but that move right there is d-u-m-b, dumb.

It could be Neifi "surprising" the Washington Nationals with a two-out, bottom of the ninth bunt .

It could even be steroid-fueled ineptitude:

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via trsullivan.mlblogs.com

And considering that we have a number of folks here who've played the game above a level where one shouldn't be laughed at for on-field idiocy, maybe you'd like to share a case of your own baseball blunders!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jacque Jones

and his base running has to be up there somewhere.

Fukudometer: Created 3/31/08 Wrigley Debut 4/5/08 WGN and Japan TV Debut 4/6/08 Sun Times Debut: 4/20/08

by Fuk-U-Meter on May 22, 2008 8:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

Jacque’s attempted throws to the infield are more amusing than his baserunning

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't exactly what I intended.

I don’t want us to hop on general criticisms of our favorite hobby horses (which is why I was reticent to include Dusty and Neifi), but rather a specific instance where you saw or did something on a baseball diamond and said to yourself, “That is a dumb play.”

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's one

The day Larry Walker caught a ball in RF, thought it was the third out and flipped it into the stands—except it wasn’t the third out and a run scored.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 8:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't John Kruk do something similar?

Except, IIRC, Krukie ran into the dugout with the ball and let a run score.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walker

I think he gave the ball to the kid and ate some of his popcorn before he realized there were only two outs.

by gocubsgo22 on May 22, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mattingly ate the popcorn

Going over for a foul ball that was out of reach

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it the Walker one...

where once he realized his mistake, went back to the stands…got the ball back, and threw it back into the infield…. hoping no one noticed he threw it out of play

by MillsChC on May 22, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know about dumbest

But one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a ballgame was my son trying to run the bases backwards after his first hit in t-ball.

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on May 22, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On one of my slow pitch softball teams . . .

The laziest, dumbest player I ever had on the team got thrown out at first on what should have been a routine single—to left field.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy. Sh*t.

That’s pretty bad.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you knew him

You wouldn’t be surprised . . .

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My little nephew

got his first hit and kept running to right field then the parking lot before he stopped and looked back…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

back in the days before t-ball...

my little brother was at the plate in a little league game and was clearly swinging a bat way too big for him. Coach tells him to “choke up”. My little brother looks at him strangely. Coach tells him again. So sure enough, my little brother starts hacking and coughing up a storm that would make any cat with a hairball proud.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 22, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!

That’s fantastic. Gotta love little kids

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

little kids take things so literally

not a baseball story, but my when my nephew was about two years old, he was standing in front of our side by side fridge and had both doors opened looking for something to eat. He had both of his hands on the wall between the fridge and freezer while he was shopping. I finally wanted him to close the doors, so I grabbed the freezer door and starting closing it telling him to watch his hands. This led to him looking at me like I was crazy then putting both of his hands out and examining them carefully. You get what you ask for! LOL

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on May 22, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slow Pitch Triple Play

I was involved in a Softball Triple Play. I still to this day dont know how it happened.

by Ga Cub on May 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

That brings up bad memories for me. My team was also involved in one and unfotunately I do remember how it happened.

by KingDave on May 22, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One I attended

At Kaufmann Stadium about 12 years ago (I think 6-9-1996 was the date), Mike Macfarlane hit a ringing double to center. Despite the fact that Griffey’s throw to cutoff man Joey Cora and not to the bag, Macfarlane slid into second anyway. He got up and started dusting himself off, but forgot to ask the umpire for a time out. Cora, despite being about 40 feet away from the bag, started sprinting over to make the tag. Macfarlane, who could have just slid his foot over the the bag with no effort, remained oblivious to what was going on and was tagged out by the panting 2nd baseman to end the inning. Mike gave the umpire a quizzical look for one second, then raised his eyes to the sky when he realized how stupid he was.

That was one amazing game. Dan Wilson hit a homer that was slicing so much it hit the backside of the foul pole. Griffey later hit one over the seats and into the concourse. Later on, there was a promotion between innings sponsored by a local jeweler where a diamond ring was hidden in the outfield grass while the contestant was blindfolded. Once the blindfold came off, Griffey ran to the woman and pointed her to where the ring was hidden, ruining the contest, but making the woman very happy. I miss the old fun loving Junior.

by Qixotl on May 22, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That Macfarlane story is awesome.

And did you hear what Junior did last week? He owed one of his teammates $1500; he paid him in pennies. Hi-larious.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a picture

of this guy’s locker when Griffey did that, it was very funny.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This one?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the one

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that story...

thx for the pic, hilarious!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on May 22, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great fanpost!!!

sticking with the current times i gotta say putting edmonds in a beloved cub uniform.

It might beeeeee!! It could beeeeeee!! It issssss!! Homerun!! Holyyyyyyy Cow!!!

by cubsluver22 on May 22, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've got one

Manny Ramirez . . .

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Manny’s not dumb. He might be the smartest hitter in the game.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great hitter, dumb fielder, dumb baserunner...

ESPN has an entire montage of Ramirez blunders.

by SouthernCub on May 22, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

forgot to add – Manny Ramirez . . . in left field

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good hitter

Not too bright in the outfield. They played a montage on a Sportscenter or Baseball Tonight not too long ago.

by BrownE34 on May 22, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My favorite

that I can remember is Manny diving to cut off a throw from the Red Sox centerfielder to the shortstop. Priceless!

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love him calling off Renteria on a popup...

Renteria was basically camped out under the ball. Ramirez calls him off and promptly comes up two steps short of making the catch.

by SouthernCub on May 22, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that one too...

and he promptly sprinted past the ball…classic!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on May 22, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ronnie Cedeno

Overunning 2nd last year ON A WALK with NOBODY out in the 9th. With a 3-2 count
Ronnie was off with the pitch which was ball 4. He overan 2nd and that little troll
Eckstein who was clearly waiting for a moment like this tags him out. I never knew before
that you could be out on a walk. Instead of runners on 1st & 2nd with NO outs the Cubs
had a runner on first with one out and where I believe only down by one run.

I am growing fonder of Ronnie but I will NEVER forget that play

by Doggie Stalker on May 22, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait Ronnie did that?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

Hammer’s doing his imitation of Ryan Theriot on first base last night.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or the Cubs 9 on the field when Berkman took 2nd

That game last night was frustrating. A game that I thought I could turn off and know theyd lose. Carlos Lee crushed that ball—-its was pretty sweet, sweeter if Cubs win that game.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I was out. Glad I only saw the lowlights on the news. I couldn’t have handled a game like that…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I turned it off too about the fifth inning

Maybe I’ve been watching the Cubs too long, but, from the way they started swinging the bats after the first inning, I absolutely knew once the Astros took the lead that the game was over.

by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

I did the same thing. Told the wife, “I’m not watching this”. Looked like the bad Cubs from a few weeks ago.

by Spydey on May 22, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gah

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 22, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ronny? Yes. 1Dec? No.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 22, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been a much better player since that.

Maybe that play squeezed all the dumbness out of him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Monday?

Actually, Cedeno made another bonehead running gaffe on Monday night in the 8th. Theriot singles up the middle to add an insurance run, Cubs go up 5-2. Cedeno’s running to 2nd, is CLEARLY watching the play in front of him with the ball not deep in CF, takes a huge turn around 2nd and proceeds to get caught in a rundown and tagged out. Instead of 2 outs and the 3-4-5 hitters coming up, the inning is over.

Now, I realize it wasn’t costly since we won that game handily…but he really is an airhead. That is EXACTLY why I’m not sold on Cedeno as an everyday player.

by bluetangerine on May 22, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has been discussed...

Getting in the rundown is a common approach to ensure the run scores. With the ball not hit deeply and a slower runner in front of him (I believe it was DeRosa), Cedeno simply tried to make sure the run scores.

It’s a split-second decision that is easy to second guess when you can see both the runner and the ball, but Cedeno is running hard and can’t look both left and right simultaneously and still run the bases. It worked out badly, but it wasn’t that dumb a play.

by SouthernCub on May 22, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct.

That wasn’t a dumb play, and in fact, Cedeno did the rundown right—forcing, IIRC, three or four throws. The more throws made during a rundown, the better the chance that: a) the run scores, and b) maybe someone makes a bad throw and you’re safe.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Len and Bob made a comment very similiar to this soon after the play.

In other words, that was 1Dec baseball, not Cedeno.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 22, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummmm....nope.

Ronny got in the rundown to allow Derosa to score. Now, there’s a debate as to whether or not that was necessary, but this wasn’t dumb baserunning. A strategical error, maybe, but not dumb baserunning. Even Len and Bob were quick to point this out.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

I can understand that. I was watching on ESPN and they didn’t discuss it at all (they were talking about the Lester no-hitter, or something). I was under the impression that the run had scored pretty easily, but I get the logic.

by bluetangerine on May 22, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN was talking about the Lester no-hitter?

Really? I’m stunned. Can’t believe it. ESPN never talks about the Red Sox.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember that play

I believe that is one of the reasons CEDANO became on the top of Sue’s? list

by Madison Cub Fan on May 22, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about this one from August 7, 2001

CUBS 5, ROCKIES 4: Ricky Gutierrez scored the winning run on a botched rundown by Colorado to lead Chicago over the visiting Rockies.

With runners on first and second and one out, pinch-hitter Joe Girardi singled to left field. Gutierrez fell coming around third base and quickly retreated.

But Girardi was caught between first and second. Catcher Sal Fasano threw to shortstop Juan Uribe, who got Girardi in a rundown. Uribe threw to first baseman Todd Helton, who took a few steps toward home to make sure Gutierrez did not try to score.

Helton threw to pitcher Gabe White, who was covering first, to get Girardi for the second out. Gutierrez then sprinted home and slid in safely ahead of White’s throw.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember that one! Good memory.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 22, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I have to admit

That I had to do a Google search to get the description right. This came from a website.

IIRC, this was also the game where Angel Hernandez ejected Steve McMichael.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angel

Made a questionable call going into the 7th inning stretch. After singing Mongo said something directly to the ump as if hed see him after the game and gestured to the ump with a kinda “what whatta ya gonna do” Angel tossed him. I never really liked Angel but I loved him for that. Thing is, I sure Mongo had to leave.

Ive tossed parents before and when they refuse to leave I would let them know that their kids team would forfit, or call the police, worked everytime.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What age were the kids?

I’ll bet that’s the worst part about the umpiring - or coaching - at that level. Obnoxious parents.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

13-21

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

youre right

parents that dont know the guy are the worst and hilarious idiotic.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Old Cubs management

I saved this story from the 4/11/01 Tribune because it frustrated me so much.

Cubs Management

1. Once the Cubs place Farnsworth on the disabled list, they are likely to promote one of their relievers from Triple-A Iowa. They have several choices, including Carlos Zambrano, Scott Chiasson, Courtney Duncan and Alan Benes.

One source within the organization said Zambrano is the Cubs’ first choice but that Iowa officials were having trouble locating him. They apparently were unsure where Zambrano lives and didn’t have a phone number for him.

by gocubsgo22 on May 22, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know this is a dumbest thing on the field post

but, I thought a dumb thing that prevented someone from getting on the field sort of applied

by gocubsgo22 on May 22, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a pretty good one, even so.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The choice was Duncan, IIRC.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fan/Player Fighting

The Ligues on the southside or lunkhead Chad Krueter on the northside have to make the list.

by N Oakley on May 22, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It happened a LONG time ago, but

I remember Tommy John racking up three errors on the same play…if I remember this correctly: there were runners on 1st and 2nd, the hitter bunted, John flubbed fielding it cleanly, then overthrew first base, then somehow got in the catcher’s way of the throw home to get the runner trying to score…

"It's a pier 9 brawl!..."

by rrobinson on May 22, 2008 10:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not that i want to start Dusty-bashing either...

but on the list of dumb managerial moves, I’ll never forget his decision to pitch to Mike Lowell over Lenny Harris in the ‘03 playoffs because he liked the “match-up” better.

And i’m not sure if this qualifies, but on the list of dumb administrative moves, I’d nominate William Wrigley’s refusing to agree to the contract Bob Kennedy was about to sign Bruce Sutter to in 1980 because Wrigley didn’t want to defer any money. Wrigley apparently didn’t get that deferring money was beneficial to him because he could collect interest before it was paid out.

by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

US Cellular Field....

... I was sitting maybe 20 rows from third base, looked across the diamond towards 1st base and see two guys jump onto the field and attack KC Royals first base coach Tom Gamboa.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 22, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blanco's bunt attempt a few weeks ago.

Okay, "Wendy: hot and juicy redhead." Give this a try.

by neverAcquiesce on May 22, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll humble myself...

and tell of a bonehead/dumbass move I did in college.

Between my junior and senior year, my team (Mississippi State) took a team to play in an international tournament in Holland. We played against teams from Japan, Holland, Italy and 2 other teams from the USA. One of them was a USA allstar team, and that was the team we were playing on this particular day.

Besides our regular team, we got to bring 3 other players with us that were recruited from other teams. One was Mike Yastrzemski (Carl’s kid) and another guy was the University of Miami’s closer – Danny Smith. Danny (was a lefty), had the absolute best pickoff move I have ever seen in my entire life. You had no clue whether he was going to home or first at any given time.

We were in a tight game agaiinst the USA team and I was playing 1B. Chris Szabo was on first base and Wally Joyner was at bat. In his last AB, Joyner had hit a one hop shot that I had to backhand, so I was very concerned about getting off the bag as quickly as possible, so I could cover the hole. As I was holding Szabo on first, Danny Smith pulls one of his patented moves, and comes to first when it looked like he already was on his way home. Not only did he pick off Szabo with his move, he also picked me off because I was already off the bag getting ready for another one of Joyners rockets. Trying to react quickly, I had to dive back towards the bag to try and stop the ball from going down the right field line, and I was able to snatch it while laying out on the dirt. While I was tumbling to recover my mistake, Szabo was cruising towards 2nd base, and I made another dumb move by trying to make up for my mistake, and I through the ball into LF trying to nail Szabo and allowing him to go to third.

Talk about wanting to crawl into a hole, that was one time I wanted to dissappear.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 22, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This sort of thing would never happen at NIU

/injoke

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on May 22, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curious..

How did Yazs’ kid turn out?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike...

...was a nice college player, but just didn’t have his dad’s overall talent.

There was only one speed with Mike – full blast. He played hard and lived hard. I can’t recall how it happened, but I believe he died a few years ago.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 22, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awwww..

That’s too bad. Never realized he died.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See..

... this thread on redsoxnation.net for some details. The “story” link there no longer works, but Mike Yastrzemski died in September 2004.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 22, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a shame

his father is such an icon and I have many fond memories watching Yaz in Fenway.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 22, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-Rays

I was at a D-Rays game about 8 years ago and the pitcher had just struck out the hitter. The catcher rolled the ball back to the mound and both he and the pitcher started walking off the field. Problem was it was only the 2nd out and the runner on first went to third on the play. Typical D-Rays baseball at the time.

by cubfan2201 on May 22, 2008 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ruthven Trying to Steal Third on BB

I remember a game in the 1980’s, when Dick Ruthven was on second. No one was on first. On a full count, Ruthven broke for third. The batter walked on the pitch. Ruthven just jogged down to third. Ruthven was so surprised when the catcher threw down to third, and Ruthven was tagged out

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on May 22, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not baseball, and more disgusting and somewhat tragic...

The slow pitch softball field we played on had a horrible 5 foot fence that was one of those cheap little elementary school fences where the wire triangled over the bar. Anyway, after a fly ball was hit deep to left, the LFer (who had probably had too many beers, judging by his round and round approach to tracking the ball) dove to catch the ball (which cleared the fence) and his face landed right at the top of the fence. Apparently his lip was still hanging on the fence when the ambulance arrived. It was funny to see him dive into the fence and crunch himself, until we learned just how bad it ended up.

by Kansas25 on May 22, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch..

that hurts just reading it..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question for Varsho

In your post you say why is he bunting with two on and one out. Why not bunt——it actually says there are NO outs…......?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dunn!?!?! bunt!?!?!

no

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-2 (.667), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 22, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what?

Dunn strikes out, walks, or hit homers. Just because he isnt a primadonna and would actually do it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bunt attempt

makes them less likely to score 1 run and MUCH less likely to score 2 or more for the win. just because some people dont pay attention to statistics (referring to managers, not you) doesn’t make it right.

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-2 (.667), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 22, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im confused

Are we agreeing here? I dont think this is a foolish move especially that there are NO OUTS.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no we are not agreeing - shocker ; )

were i managing, i would ONLY ever sac bunt with the pitcher. everyone else is swinging away (or bunting for a hit).

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 22, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

So you are also writing a book on “Why I am not a manager in the bigs”

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

subtitled: “(Because I think statistics are valuable)”

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 22, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bwawawa

Glad you didnt take it the wrong way, it sounded bad. Ha, nice.

Or you could just add your name to this book which was coauthored by Joe Morgan. Go figure.

http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Dummies-Sports-Hobbies/dp/0764575376/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211479812&sr=8-1

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 22, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha, one of countless instances

where “joe morgan” and “dummy” are used in the same sentence

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1

by joeschmitt on May 22, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were no outs.

Don’t know how I bothced that, but Dunn has attemepted, IIRC, two sac bunts in his career. He bunted foul twice, then hit a 3-run, walkoff home run. Oh, yeah, and Paul Bako and the pitcher were up behind him, because Dusty was batting Dunn 7th that day. Dumb.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 22, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting Eric Patterson

leadoff.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 22, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you mean

Corey?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll admit

I get them confused.

But would you bat E-Pat first either?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 22, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point ;)

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 22, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad slide

I remember a guy sliding headfirst (into first, I think) several years back, then getting up, pulling his pants down and dusting himself off before remembering that he was in a major league ballpark and tens of thousands of people could now check him out in his undies.

by gharp on May 22, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steve "Psycho" Lyons...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 22, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right!

I’d forgotten it was him, and I also didn’t realize it was 18 years ago (wow). Here’s the description from his wikipedia page:

“His most remembered incident occurred at Tiger Stadium in Detroit on a Monday night in 1990. In a televised game played on July 16, he created a stir that was replayed countless times. After sliding headfirst into first base to beat out a bunt hit, Lyons dropped his baseball pants to empty the dirt out and brush off his shirttail. After a few seconds (and a reaction from the crowd of over 14,000), he realized what he had just done and quickly pulled them up, humorously embarrassed. Although wearing sliding shorts under his White Sox uniform, this incident earned him another nickname, “Moon Man” Lyons. At the end of the inning, women in the stands waved dollar bills at him as he came to the dugout.”

by gharp on May 22, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda funny

I coach baseball for the junior high I work at, and a few years ago we had a new kid that no one knew trying out. He’d moved into town over the summer (junior high baseball is in the fall) and hadn’t played little league ball in town because of the move. However, I was told that every chance he got, he talked up his baseball skills, telling the other town kids they’d be lucky to have him on their team. Going on about his hitting skills, his throwing arm, and his incredible speed.
When I finally met him at tryouts, I’d already heard what a superstar he was supposed to be. The arrogant little punk (yes, I’m calling a kid a name) actually introduced himself to me as “your superstar switch-hitting leadoff man.” When he stepped into the box to take bp during the tryouts, he actually hit ok right handed – meaning he made contact a few times, all weak grounders. I’d already figured out that the kid was all talk, but I wanted to to see what he could do from the other side of the plate, thinking maybe he’s better left-handed. I asked him to take a few hacks lefty and it became pretty obvious that he wasn’t really a switch-hitter, because he stayed in the right handed batter’s box, but turned the bat upside-down to hit.
I normally wouldn’t make fun of a kid who, even with an extreme lack of talent, shows up at tryouts and gives it his best, but this boy was actually taunting the other players in the days leading up to tryouts. I probably would have cut him anyway, just for the “me” attitude, but when he swore at one of the assistant coaches who tried to show him how to actually bat lefty, he was done.

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on May 22, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Be honest

that boy was Ritchie Sexson.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 22, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dumbest thing ever?

Three words:

Disco Demolition Night.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

touche!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 22, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I swear..

It was more like Woodstock than a baseball game…lol..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 22, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll see your Disco Demolition and raise you a Ten Cent Beer!

I love my Tribe, am proud to have lived in the Mistake on the Lake, and certainly frequented old Municipal Stadium many times, but Ten Cent Beer Night was definitely not one of Cleveland’s shining moments..

June 4, 1974. Rangers at Indians. Special promotion – Ten Cent Beer Night. 8 ozs of Strohs in a cup for 10 cents – all you can drink. Over 25,000 fans attended the game. That may not sound like much, but the Indians’ average attendance the previous year was 8,000.

Too many low-lights to list here, but suffice to say bats, bottles, folding chairs, and an empty gallon jug of Thunderbird made an appearance. Not pretty…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 22, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

those are three words that should NEVER be put together!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on May 22, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robin Ventura and Nolan Ryan!

The dumbest thing I have ever seen in a ball game was when Robin Ventura went out to the mound to fight Nolan Ryan in the early nineties. Ryan hit him with a fastball, and I have no idea if he did it on purpose. It was the fad to charge the mound at the time and that was what Ventura did. Haha… Ryan put Robin in a headlock and punched him in the head with what seemed like several hundred times! haha… The third baseman was half his age, and though Ventura was a decent/good ball player, he is always going to be remembered for this.

by TheHawkRules on May 22, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol I was thinking of that...

And Paul Wilson confronting Kyle Farnsworth. What a tackle. But Ryan certainly schooled him, didn’t he? Classic

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on May 22, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that when Ryan retired

his teammates gave him two bulls named “Robin” and “Ventura”.

"I'm not giving him a high-five ever again." - Sammy Sosa, joking about Moises Alou's personal habits

by MorePiePlease on May 22, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Fred Merkle not touching second base on a game winning single by Al Bridwell. Cost the Giants the pennant. The cubs don’t make it to the world series if not for that play. Maybe the smartest play in baseball history by Evers.

by nks6911 on May 22, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And haven't won another WS since that.

Maybe it’s not the goat but the Merkle Curse.

by Fraggin Judge on May 22, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First time poster, long-time lurker. I hope someone can help me out on this one, and I hope I didn’t make this up. This happened maybe 15 years or so ago…

Rick Wilkins is up and hits a line drive down the first base line, clearly foul. The first baseman for the opposing team (possibly Fred McGriff) stretches way out into foul territory and it nicks off of his glove. The ball bounces off the wall around the bullpen and zips off into the middle of right-field way away from the fielder. The ball is called fair because the first baseman was in fair territory when he got his glove on the ball. The not-so-fleet-footed Wilkins takes third.

I’ve looked through a bunch of baseball reference game logs to try to find this, but I was unable to. I only have a vague memory to guide me. This play has always struck me as funny because I’ve never seen a ball take a bounce like that in Wrigley.

by quadrokeith on May 22, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't remember that, but

it doesn’t matter where the fielder is. It’s where the ball is that determines fair or foul.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about..

when Steve Lyons slid into first, stood up to brush himself off and dropped his pants.

That was pretty damn funny.

"I'm not giving him a high-five ever again." - Sammy Sosa, joking about Moises Alou's personal habits

by MorePiePlease on May 22, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I have to admit that I was up with a tie game in the last inning in a high school game there was one out and a man on third. I hit a line drive to right field and saw the outfielder sorta lazily go for the ball, and it rolled past him to the wall. I ran around first as fast as I could dropped my head and sprinted around third and raced for home. I slid head first into home and started jumping up and down. I guess I thoughtn it was ping pong or some game were you have to win by two.

by nks6911 on May 22, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two plays came to mind...

1. A famous blunder, Lonnie Smith getting duped by the Twins DP combo (Knoblauch and Gagne?) in game 7 of the ‘91 World Series. I’m sure lots of you remember that play…

...Lonnie Smith was such a comical player, this thread would be full of stories about him if he’d ever played for the Cubs.

2. I also thought of a Sammy Sosa blunder against the Marlins in ‘99. The Cubs were leading the Marlins by a run, with two out in the 9th, and men on first and second. Kevin Millar hit a deep drive to right field, Sosa leaped for it falling back into the “well”. The ball hit off Sammy’s glove, then he inadvertantly kicked it into the corner…but he had no idea where it went. Does he look at his CF or infielders for help?...no. He immediately raises his arms to indicate that he’s lost the ball in the ivy and by the time he realizes that the ball is not in the ivy, Millar had a three-run inside-the-park homer that ultimately won the game.

That was right about the time that the wheels fell off that ‘99 team.

by LaddieRenfroe on May 22, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pendleton Doubled On Play in '91 Series

“Skates” didn’t score from second on a double by Terry Pendleton. Lonnie still had good speed in ‘91. That happened some time late in regular innings. Of course, the only run was scored in the 10th by the Twins. I loved that! I had to contend with obnoxious Braves fans during my freshman year at Miss State in those days.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on May 22, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Prince Fielder hit a routine fly ball to Tori Hunter last year....

Hunter lost it and it landed about 50 feet behind him. Big Boy Prince got an inside the park home-run.

by wrigleyrocker12 on May 22, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Albert Pujols

September of 2003 – we were playing the Cardinals in the series where we took 4 of 5 from them that gave us the momentum to take first place. Ramirez hits a routine fly ball to left field, Pujols catches it and quickly tries to flip it from his glove into his throwing hand. The ball hits the ground and the ump rules that he never actually caught the ball. At the time, I remember thinking that we may have caught a break, but that Pujols was an idiot anyway for being so flippant and careless with the ball. Ramirez ended up coming around to score and because of this inning, the Cubs were able to take it into extras and eventually win on a Sammy Sosa walk-off.

by quadrokeith on May 22, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Larry Walker vs. Randy Johnson

Lefty Larry Walker turning his helmet backwards and batting right-handed against wicked 6’10” LHP Randy Johnson.

by Shawon O Meter on May 22, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't that Krukie?

If I remember it, that was at the All Star game.

by inukjim on May 23, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it was Larry Walker.

But you’re right, it was in the All-Star Game.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something that happened last Tuesday

Brewers had the bases loaded, one out. Jason Kendall grounded to 3B Jose Bautista who threw to 2B Freddy Sanchez. Sanchez caught the throw and started jogging to the dugout as Corey Hart crossed the plate, oblivious to the fact that he was supposed to turn the DP to get out of the inning.

Oops.

(The replay is available on Gameday.)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on May 22, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, this reminds me of one of my favorites

08/30/06—MIL @ HOU
0-0, bottom 9, bases loaded, 1 out

Ground ball to Cirillo at first—he tags the bag with the runner right next to him, then throws home to Damian Miller, who, forgetting the force was removed, simply stepped on the plate. Winning run scores.

by Shanghai Badger on May 22, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ted Turner appointing himself manager of the Braves.

He lasted one game before the commissioner yanked him out of the clubhouse.

by Fraggin Judge on May 22, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

That was 1977. That Braves team lost 101 games. How much worse could Ted have been than Dave Bristol (who he replaced) or Vern Benson (who replaced Ted)?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 23, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Holliday

being called safe at the plate in the 1 game playoff vs. the Padres last season. (Not necessarily dumb call, it was close but he was out!).

Reverse angle shot:

Also, there was a game and it slips my mind which game but it was the 9th inning IIRC and Holliday had misread the ball off a bat and as it got over his head he turned to look for it. As he’s looking for the ball the camera shows the shot of the ball directly between his legs….. He was still looking for it as the winning run crossed the plate. DUMB!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 23, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a great picture.

The umpire was right there, too. IIRC he never made a call - which is correct, since there was no touch of the plate and no tag by Barrett - but with the Rockies wildly celebrating on the field, that essentially ended the game.

Maybe he’ll touch the plate. SOmeday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 23, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did make the call

About 6 seconds after this photo. He hesitated because the ball came out of Barretts’ glove.

Heres the video

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on May 23, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you're right.

He did make the call. It was the wrong call.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 23, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Fools

Hie yourself to Minnesota this Sunday because it’s the St. Paul Saints Larry Craig Bobblefoot Day! According to The Smoking Gun:

Capitalizing on Senator Larry Craig’s restroom bust, a Minnesota minor league baseball team this Sunday is giving away a promotional item celebrating the Republican politician’s arrest last year at the Minneapolis-St.Paul airport. Dubbed a “bobblefoot” (as opposed to a bobblehead doll), the polyresin giveaway depicts an occupied bathroom stall (the inhabitant’s pants and shoes can be seen below the stall’s panels).

That almost beats out the Fukudome bobblehead the Cubs are giving out on Tuesday. Almost.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 23, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!

Mike Veeck, Bill’s son, is the owner of the Saints. He’s been great at these sorts of giveaways. Perfect.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 23, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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