Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Friday 5/23, 6:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 23, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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For the 9,237th time this season, the Cubs face the Pirates. So I thought that "Welcome Back, My Friends, To The Show That Never Ends" was an appropriate metaphor for tonight's game. Seriously, by Sunday that'll make 12 of the first 50 Cub games in 2008 against one team. Does that make ANY sense?
Don't answer that question. We all know the answer.
Before you tackle tonight's game preview, check out this article by Pat Jordan on Slate, which accurately depicts the difference between athletes decades ago and those today:
Writers and fans alike no longer get to know the object of their affections in a way they did years ago. Athletes see us as their adversaries, not as allies in their achievements. They are as much celebrities as rock stars and Hollywood actors are. They live insular lives behind a wall of publicists, agents, and lawyers. They don't interact with fans or writers. They mingle only with other celebrities at Vegas boxing matches, South Beach nightclubs, and celebrity golf events, all behind red-velvet VIP ropes. We can only gawk at them as if at an exotic, endangered species at a zoo.Baseball Prospectus still has the Cubs ranked #1:
The Cubs' lead atop the NL Central tightens up as they drop a series to the Astros, but both PECOTA and their run differential suggest there's little reason to panic. The offense is cranking out 5.7 runs per game, tops in the majors, and they're getting above-average production at every position except center field, with five positions putting up a .400 OBP or above. Alfonso Soriano isn't among that quintet, but his 21-for-44 performance, including seven homers in six games, is a big reason for the team's recent 9-2 run.
Now, on to tonight's rematch of last Saturday's game, the only one the Cubs have lost to the Pirates this year.
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For all the Z and Duke matchups, see the game thread from last Saturday, when they last pitched against each other. Z, for his part, says he's fine, says the stiffness in his neck was from "sleeping wrong" and he has told everyone:
"My shoulder's fine," Zambrano said. "I'll show you Friday."
OK, Z. We'll be watching.
Today's game is on cable in the Chicago and Pittsburgh areas, on EI, and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's overflow comment thread will post at 7:30 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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First!
Glad this finally posted this thread. I was getting tired of the Maddux conversation. Let’s win 3!!!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
Not first!!! Yay!!!
I’ll never understand the “First!” thing.
Let’s have Good Z and Bad Duke today. I want a nice comfortable win.
Seriously.
I think the whole point of being “FIRST!!!!” is the satisfaction of knowing your comments will be read before anyone elses. But, 90% of the time the people who make the “FIRST!!!!” comments never write any insightful commentary anyway. So what’s the point, aside from being lame?
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Tradition
like thowing the ball back at Wrigley…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
oh snap!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I say
8 to 4 Cubs
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on May 23, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
A fired up Carlos is going to give up four?
Or do you think the ‘pen will come in and mar a gem?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
212-0 Cubs...
But I’ve never been very good at these things.
I think you're understimating the Cub offense.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You're probably right.
But I think you’re forgetting that Soriano is a guess hack hitter.
Yep, you're right.
I forgot about the guess hack hitter who selfishly produces stats that only aid him and not the team. However, I didn’t play college ball, so I guess I’m not qualified to talk baseball….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yeah, it will take the cubs...
all three games in this series to even get close to 212 runs against the pirates….
7-1 cubs
Z pitches eight, gives up five hits.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
7th!!!!
Too bad Gorzelanny is not facing the Cubs again….but they should do fine start to put the talk about a poor road record to rest.
Carlos Zambrano 160. Pirates 0
What about Carlos Zambrano versus a hurricane? Carlos 150 the Hurricane 0. But what if the hurricane was named Hurricane Ditka? oooooh tough one
Daaaaaaaaah Cubs Da Cubs Da Cubs Da Cubs
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 23, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Stat line of the night(for me):
Edmonds as a Padre: .178/.265/.233
Edmonds as something other than a Padre: .133/.188/.133
Felix, como te extrano.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
You left out the best part:
Edmonds OPS+ as a Cub: -15
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
no
he pops up on the first pitch. Gotta be economical with the opposing pitcher, ya know.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he's not guessing at anything.
He’s just bad.
(I’m kidding, Jimbo! Hit us a home run tonight. What’s that? You’re not playing? Oh, right.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
Pat Jodan article
Local newsmen used to treat the local athletes as heroes, no matter how vulgar, racist, or moronic they were. Now half of them spend all their time looking for or making up negative stories about them.
Case in point, this article’s quote ridiculing them as “rock stars”, too good for regular joes. By which he means reporters, not actual regular joes.
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
Souled Out
I nearly picked up this book the other day because it touches on what Pat Jordan was saying. Many athletes are now all about material gain and personal wealth instead of giving back to the community and helping the disadvantaged. Still, that’s not to say a good story like Derrek Lee’s foundation gets totally neglected.
Minor Leaguers Accessible
I love AAA and AA baseball because the players are so accessible. They are willing to sign autographs almost all the way until game time. There are a lot of good guys in MLB. Unfortunately, there are too many jerks that sully the reputation of big leaguers. Let’s win 2 out of 3 in PIT to go 30-20. I won’t complain, if the Cubs sweep to go 31-19. Really, I won’t.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
How many guys will be at work today during the game?
PBP guys … be on it. I’ll return the favor in other games.
I'm radio only tonight.
Hopefully, northsider is around to run PBP.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Please have your singing flag ready.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Most Ridiculous Schedule Ever
Cubs 2008 (28-17)
Home (19-8) | Road (9-9) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 20, 2008
What, are you guys gonna get drink specials or something?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
No, just extra-extra special treatment
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
heeeeeeey
EVERY night is ladies night, foxy lady!
How YOU doin?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
EVERY night is Ladies Night!
Tee-hee. ;-)
I’ll likely be on the thread tonight.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
every night is ladies night!
But I’ll be here for sure :D
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
Zambrano's excuses...
...remind me of Rodman a few years back.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
resting Dome?
because Duke is a lefty?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
works for me
he has struggled recently…
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Agreed...
.732 OPS in May. Hopefully an extra day off gets him back on track.
i dont want to be that guy
but he really hasnt driven the ball with any authority for a long time… He is not really like matsui… He is a mix between Iwamura and Ichiro
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
he had that homerun
in the last homestand.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
every now and then a blind squirrel finds a nut
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I think you're
mis characterizing him significantly. He’s not a blind squirrel.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
in terms of power maybe
i mean he just doesnnt do it
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
do what?
hit for power? I guess not. But that feels like it’s discounting a lot of what he does.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
no i like him he is a good player
but hes not what was sold to us per se as a ichiro matsui hybrid….
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Geez, the guy's been playing real games for only a month and a half.
Don’t write him off yet. He may start developing power as he gets more familiar with the pitchers and the parks. Honestly, I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past Dome. He seems to have the mutant ability to shift his game in a variety of directions at will.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
IAWTCC.
He doesn’t even have 90 days in the league yet.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He's on pace for 8 HR for the season...
very good hitter, very patient, but probably not the power guy some thought before the season.
That may be a good comparison...
patience of iwamura, swing like Ichiro. Seems like a good call. I think expecting power from Fukudome may be unrealistic.
agree with you 100%
that being siad we should move him to CF and play Hoffpaauir in right
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I think you're overestimating Hoffpauir...
And I think Fukudome is better suited defensively in RF.
i agree but we need some type of protection or let onedec play
and move derosa to right… Dome doesnt have the power protoypically associated with corner OFs…. Hello Adam Dunn
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Neither does Hoffpauir...
I’d rather have a good hitter in there than a guy with a bit more power but not as good a bat.
Plus, we have a guy who provides protection (whatever that’s worth). His name is Soto.
we need a LH bat
with pop and i think the jim edmonds signing proves that Dome is not exactly what we thought he would be…
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Why exactly do we need a LH bat with pop?
If I recall correctly, we have the highest scoring team in baseball without a LH bat with pop. I think we’ll be fine without that LH bat with pop.
Moreover, I’m not sure that Hoffpauir provides the LH pop you think he does.
LSA
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
AMEN!
i have no idea why all the discussions around this team seem to focus on how we are supposed somehow lacking offensively and need another power bat.
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
I can't see
leaving DeRo in right. We need Pie back.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
very true
i say one more week for jim
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Yeah, because one more week of -15 OPS+ is just what this team needs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
it really is sickening...
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I wish him well
but he looks completely done at the plate.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
agreed
i was for the signing but its about that time to cut losses.. I said at the beginning two weeks would be about right and that is what it looks like he will get
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I was against it, but, in this case, I hate
having been right.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
he really is lost up there.
2 nights ago i thought that the FB he turned on in the 8th or 9th was gone… Only for it to die…
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Yeah...
no batspeed at all. He generates almost no power with that swing anymore.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He just missed hitting one out in Houston...
his timing may have been coming back just a bit, but now he will sit again for awhile. Not making excuses for him….just sayin..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
After 105 AB's
I think it’s safe to say this isn’t a timing issue. He’s clearly unable to get around on fastballs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'm afraid you're right..
I may have been looking for something that just isn’t there anymore.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
get your
No-Hit Edmonds action figures before they’re all gone! Sure to be a collectors item!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of baseball analysts said
Fukudome might need half a season or more to adjust to MLB pitching (and strikezones). If his performance so far represents his attempt to struggle through and adjust, then there will be upside when he does finally adjust completely.
Also, I know he came from the Japanese league, but I think people overdo the Japanese player comparisons – especially if we are saying what kind of hitter he will be in the future. In that case, let’s compare him to any MLB players that are a close match – not just japanese ones.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
My 2 cents on Fukudome
so far this year at the plate. It looks like the word is out to pitch him away and I would have to say that the limited amount of games I get to see out here, pitchers rarely come inner half on him. If they do, it’s way in or down and in. The good thing is, he has a great eye and takes his walks or if the pitch is hittable, he takes it the other way. I am not worried about his HR total. Look at Soriano, his HR’s are pitches left up in his wheelhouse. He doesn’t hit dingers to right field at all. A Ram and Lee and Soto have all fields power. I’ll gladly take whatever home runs Kosuke gets and enjoy watching his knack of simply getting on base, period.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Slumping on the road
Not used to the schedule or the amount/distance of travel. Plus, Cedeno needs to play more.
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it!
13-1 Cubs Win!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I like the extra day off for Dome.
And a Ronny appearance is always welcome.
This might be the one lineup where you bat the pitcher 8th….but Carlos might get IBB’d a couple times.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
In front of Onedec?
No way!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No, in front of Johnson. Cedeno's hitting 6th tonight.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Love
not seeing Edmonds’ name in the lineup!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Aw yeah! 1Dec in da house!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
nice to see Onedec instead of the full fonty,
although i assume its because ronald is a righty
by philadelphiacub on May 23, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
that's quite a name you got there... :D
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
What was Jerome Walton's Batting Stance?
And, more to the point, how does it reflect on your personality?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
if you were a batting stance
what batting stance would you be?
I’d be Reggie Jackson’s stance. Powerful, speedy, and all twisted up at the end.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
i have a feeling we say a pumped up Z tonight
who takes no prisoners
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Oh yeah..
That’s way better than first..:D
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Paging Team T-Shirt......
(that’s SWL and JS)
I would really like a blue shirt that says FREE PIE in white and red trim on the front with PIE 20 in the Cubs’ font on the back. Yeah, yeah, “Then make it yourself,” I know, but I don’t have as much experience. Does this inspire any designs?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
not really.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
as a slobbering Homer Simpson....
MMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm free Pie
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 23, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
88, baby!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
Pie isn't coming back anytime soon
If Edmonds doesn’t cut it, look for the Cubs to shift Fukudome to CF and try Hoffpauir in RF. I think at this point Matt Murton will be called up to play RF before Pie gets another call up. I don’t see the Cubs recalling Pie until he works out his issues at the plate, and so far he’s gone 3 for 27 since returning to the minors. One postive so far is 5 strike outs and 3 walks. If he can cut down on his strike outs or increase his walks, and hits then he will be back in the majors. But that isn’t going to happen overnight, Pie swing was in bad shape, and was very unlikely to hit well in the majors with it. But hopefully he can fix his problems and return sometime in mid July or August.
That'd be a huge mistate...
... as discussed elsewhere. It’d be like putting Mike Fontenot in RF. Lou may THINK Hoffpauir is that lefty power bat he’s been seeking, but he would be incorrect.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
This is what I heard
the Cubs were thinking about doing before Edmonds got released. I even heard that Fukudome signed off on moving to CF. I dunno if Hoffpauir is the lefty bat we need or not, but the guy has hit very well in the minors the last two years(after 4 bad years), so maybe he could hit 250 with 10-15 HR against RH pitching in a platoon. I dunno about his defense in RF though.
Haha
Love how easy that is for you to say a big league manager is “incorrect.” Just rolls off the tongue (or keyboard) so easily for you.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Hoffpauir
Al, I gotta say, I really want Hoff-power to rip things up, firstly because it would help the team, and secondly to counter all the haters. Sure, it’s not common for a 28-year-old first-year MLB player to ever have much or sustained success in the bigs. OTOH, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible either. It will be interesting to see how the league adjusts to him and then how he adjusts back.
by John Q Freejazz on May 23, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I do
would the D-backs trade him to us though? and for what? Is he healthy?
He's officially on the block
He’s within a week or two of being back. I don’t know what the D’backs would want for him or how much of a market there would be. But he’s blocked in AZ at all 4 corners.
Sullivan wrote the same thing this a.m.
We beat it to hell in the previous thread. And, at 3 for 27, Pie is still out-hitting Edmonds, who also has just 1 walk and no HR (with the Cubs) to Pie’s 3 BB and 1 HR.
And just in case anyone missed it, Edmonds OPS+ with the Cub is -15. I’m pretty sure Felix could manage that while working on his swing.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't want to brag...
but I’m almost certain I could step in and give us a -15 OPS+.
just sayin’
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
are you scrappy?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The point isn't
if Pie is out hitting Edmonds, the key is to get Pie right long term. I knew Pie could probably hit 220 or 230 right now. But his talent is much better then that, he just needs to figure out a better strike zone. If Edmonds can’t hit 250 or better and get hot soon, he will be gone very soon. Lou already making comments he’s upset with his hitting after 4 games.
Yes, I know Lou is upset
with Edmonds; I read Sully’s column today, too. Pie should be here everyday. His defense makes up for what he lacks in offense.
Putting Hoffpauir in RF and Dome in CF is going to cost the Cubs games. I think Dome’s good enough to be a slightly above-average defensive CF, but Hoffpauir is Dunn-like in the OF. Maybe he’s got an arm that can make up for his likely lack of range, but this is trouble in the making.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I haven't seen
much of him in the outfield, I’m not sure how he would do in the outfield. How did he play RF in Triple A? I wonder if they will consider trying Eric Patterson in CF?
But doesn't
Patterson have LF and CF experience, and is lefthanded.
Lou doesn't like him.
Even when he gets called up, he doesn’t play.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He was only up
for three days and started one of those games. Then he was sent down for Murton because we were going to face a bunch of lefties in the next week I thought.
Three days
is the length of time it takes Lou to evaluate players. Yes, he’s that good. He’s the best manager ever.
He played a little in ST.
As I and others have said here, though: career first basemen don’t become good OF’ers at age 28.
I think Lou may like E-Patt even less than Pie, if that’s possible.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I thought
Lou was over the Patterson stuff. I recall in spring training, Piniella was saying how he wishes he could have a spot for him on the team, and then was the first player to be called up when Soriano got hurt. Did he piss Lou off when he returned for those few days in April or something? Things I heard his swing and bat is about major league ready.
He's already been up once this season.
He was with the club for four games and got 6 AB. He started once and got two PH appearances, IIRC. He doesn’t appear to be off the sh*tlist just quite yet. I think the concern with E-Patt is his defense, not necessarily his offense. He’s only played 4 games in the OF, 2 of them in CF; the majority of his time has been at 2B and he’s not going to break in there.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
This:
He’s only played 4 games in the OF, 2 of them in CF; the majority of his time has been at 2B and he’s not going to break in there.
Is in reference to this year’s stint in the minors. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I just know
Piniella isn’t going to just put Pie out there if Edmonds gets cut, because he’s not happy with his swing and doesn’t believe he will get results. So if Edmonds gets cut in the next week or two, he’s not gonna go back to Pie if he isn’t improved. So he will try Hoffpauir and possible Murton or Patterson first I believe.
Re
he will try Hoffpauir and possible Murton or Patterson first I believe.
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
at least Murton has experience
in RF.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
He’s never inspired me with his play out there, either.
I’m just getting really frustrated that the Cub are going to go from one of the best defensive OF in the majors-Soriano-Pie-Dome-to a pretty average to mediocre defensive OF-Soriano-Dome-Hoffpauir-all because Lou wants to add a LH “power ” bat to a lineup that is already at the top of most major offensive categories.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
We already have a right fielder
who gets on base but doesn’t hit home runs. And he’s a real right fielder.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
Lineups
Cubs
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Soto, C
Cedeno, 2B
DeRosa, RF
Johnson, CF
Zambrano, P
Pirates
Sanchez, 2B
McLouth, CF
Bay, LF
LaRoche, 1B
Nady, RF
Mientkiewicz, 3B
Paulino, C
Gomez, SS
Duke, P
Why do the Pirates keep thinking Mientkiewicz is a fulltime 3B?
I don’t get it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Or Sanchez is a leadoff hitter...
n/t
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
whatever happened to Jack Wilson btw?
wasn’t he almost ready to return the last time we played the Pirates? oh wait, we always play the Pirates. Nevermind this post lol
I'm kind of a big deal
by chi-townbleacherbum on May 23, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Still hurt.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Their other choice is Jose Bautista
‘nuff said.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Tonight
we a very strong start from Zambrano, or the offense to hit really well. In 8 of our 11 road loses, we either lost 4-2 or 5-3. Our pitching has given up 4-5 runs a game, and we haven’t been able to get more then 2-3 runs. So we either need better pitching or better hitting(probably a mix of both) if were gonna start winning more on the road.
I like that line-up
Here’s hoping we kick some serious, Pirate ASS tonight.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
or atleast
their “booty!”
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Positive things
1) Cubs are apparently the only team in the league with three starters with at least five wins.
2) The Cubs are in every single game. Out of their 19 losses, only four were lost by more than three runs, and only five by more than two runs. To recap, in 14 of their 19 losses, they finished within one or two runs of the opponent.
3) Meanwhile, in 18 or their 28 wins, the Cubs won by more than 3 runs.
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
I never did understand the Edmonds signing
WITHOUT production in CF our offense is great. Having Felix work on his swing here makes all the sense in the world. You cannot learn to hit MLB pitching at AAA. Felix will save runs with his D and score when on base, beat out the DP that Edmonds can’t….oh well, I’m done stating the obvious…....
Preaching to the Pie choir, my friend!
n/t
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Maybe Carlos can kill the parrott with an errant fastball
Wish we still had Farnsworth… no doubt in my mind he would go Paul Wilson hm for doing that stuff
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I hate that damn parrot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
A little help from the SABRmetricians...
Assume that Lou figures out sometime in the next week that Edmonds is toast. Assume that Lou doesn’t want to call up Pie while his swing is a work in progress.
Which would be the better (I didn’t say ideal) alternative, combining offense and defense:
1. RJ in CF full-time.
2. Dome in CF, DeRo in RF, platoon Fonty/Cedeno.
3. Dome in CF, Murton in RF full time.
4. EPatt/RJ platoon in CF.
5. Platoon RJ and Hoffpauir/Ward, Dome moving between RF and CF.
6. Cedeno in CF (full time or platoon with Hoffpauir).
Any opinions on this?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
i like hoff in RF
until he cant play or shodlnt play with dome in CF..
or One Dec in CF… (shudders)
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I heard Billy Williams might want to return
lets stick him in CF…
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
i like very much :)
if he doesnt want to we could put Ron out there.
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I mean Billy is only like 5 years older than Edmonds anyway...
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
I'm far from a SABR dude, but option 1 is my vote
...Dome in CF just doesnt make sense. He is a GREAT RF, why weaken two postions by moving him?
Felix Pie must play everyday!
LSA
Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
sigh. My nine year old is watching "How It's Made"
instead of baseball, which I’ll get to see in an hour.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally,
I like Dome batting 2 and Soto 5, but I am also not a manager.
OT: My gamecocks just got bounced from the SEC baseball tourney
:( We will still make regionals but have no pitching… I think for our supplemental pick we should really look at Reese Havens and James Darnell if they are on the board.. Both have very good bats… I also sat next to Reese in accounting
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
good start.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
SORI!!!!!!!!!!!
Leadoff double!
Pat and Ron say he's gimpy"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
visibly?
is he limping, or just slow?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He limping fast.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
crap.
he came back from injury too fast last year too.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
should it have been a triple?
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Great start!!!!!!!!!!!
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I see the Pirates are wearing their homage to Ronald McDonald uni's tonight....
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Duke before this year was a cub killer
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
He also pitches much better at home.
Nearly a run less on his ERA for his career.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
sounds like pirates uni's are ugly from pat and rons describtion
by Madison Cub Fan on May 23, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
They are.
Like a nightmarish marching band uniform. As if things aren’t bad enough for the Pirates…
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That was some sneaky robot power there!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF. This was so not meant to post here.
This was supposed to be a reply to a Reed Johnson home run comment below. Weeeeird.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
SS Theriot flies out to RF, Soriano doesn't even think about tagging. 1 out
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Soriano says he is ok.
According to Ron Santo.
ROns the best doctor
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
looks like the HoffPower
may be playing left.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Trainer and Lou out to 2B to check on Sori
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
timeout: Mark O'Neal has come out to see Soriano at 2nd...
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
whom?!?!?
soriano is who is hurt (not injured), staying in game
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1
He's waving them off now.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
so hes staying in???
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Staying in
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe just a cramp?
I’ve had my claves cramp while running, or maybe a shin splint…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Lee flies to RF, Nady dives but drops the ball. Soriano scores. CHC 1 PIT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
it hit off the heel of his glove, then off of his body. Soriano was all the way around 3rd when he dropped it.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Nady clanks one in RF and Sori scores easily. 1-0 Cubs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
double????
error???
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Single plus error, I believe
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
sounds like nice baserunning by a gimpy sori
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1
Ron and Pat said he was running much better when he scored, FWIW
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
sounds like it wasn't a smart play, tho...
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a pragmatist.
The run scored. I’m not worried.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
more like lucky base running
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on May 23, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking Soriano is not gonna come out for the bottom of the 1st...
Lou is an idiot if he let’s him stumble around out there with the bad leg.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
how did he run
from second to home?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Much better according to Pat and Ron
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
LOLZ
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
not good
what is wrong with his legs???
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
did the parrot do it
are there suspects
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
3B Ramirez drives a line drive up the middle, runners at 1st and 2nd. 1 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
we're hitting this guy pretty good.
good.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe I remember how the song goes.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone who has a child
in the 90s knows that riff. :D
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
good lord.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember how insanely hard to get those action figures were?
I think my aunt had to arm wrestle someone at KB Toys to get the Red Ranger for my brother’s birthday present.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes! They were hard to come by.
I still remember the day the Green Ranger and White rangers were revealed.
Yeaaaah!
There were some that were essentially Transformers rip-offs too—you could put them together to form that super Power Ranger… thing that always fought the bad guy at the end of the show.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a standard
for those shows. they all did that. Look at Voltron.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Voltron?
Not familiar with that. My childhood was devoted to Ghostbusters. My Power Rangers knowledge comes from proximity to my brother when he liked that show.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, my
look Voltron up on the Intarwebz. It was HUGE.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Ramirez and Lee preserve their identical lifetime lines against Duke
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
keeping this at bat alive
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
C Soto grounds to 3rd, 5-4 for a force at 2nd. Runners at the corners, 2 out on the FC.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
he pulled it, then?
GD has it on the outside corner.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
it must have been slowly hit not to double him up
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Come on, Ronny, let's knock in DLee!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
23 pitches in this inning for Duke
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
2B Cedeno grounds to 3B, off Mientkiewicz's body! A run scores! Everybody safe. CHC 2 PIT 0.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
these are some lucky drops here...
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Run scores on an error on Doug M___________
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
and again, we ask...
why do the Pirates keep pretending this guy is a starting 3b?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
for the same silly reason Lou wanted Edmonds...
..managers love veterans.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
People earlier here wondered why Doug M. is playing a MLB 3rd base.
Even though he won a gold glove in 1st base with the Twins.
1B defense is not the same as 3B defense.
DLee is a GG 1B; I doubt he’d be so good at 3B.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, I know 1st base is not the same as 3rd base.
But I’d say he’s a bona fide “major leaguer” and not some kind of “pretender” to the throne. I mean, the guy has a gold glove.
Len thinks it won't remain an error
"Cubs Win!!"
by northofwrigley on May 23, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Pat says it should've been a hit in the first place.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
ill take it
they kick the ball around a lot
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
really?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
no
but he says he’s the glue and the bell-curve.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Pulse
sounds like the name of a seedy nightclub, not a blog by our Ivy Leaguer.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully Z goes out and throws strikes now
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
RF DeRosa grounds to SS, 6-4 on the force. Inning over.
BOTTOM 1
CHC 2
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
good first inning!
here’s hoping Z has his “A” stuff, cuz if he does this will be enough runs already (i still hope we get more, obviously)
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
I like the pitch-to-contact Z.
Much more economical with his pitches, but can still reach back and get the K when he needs it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
exactly
this is the first year he’s really done that, and look at the great results!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
exactly
this is the first year he’s really done that, and look at the great results!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Im on my iPhone..
...it doesnt update at fast. It almost looks like you are after me. lol. You can have it. It’s fine with me.
Two thoughts
1. We are lucky to have any runs… THat was boneheaded baserunning by Soriano..
2. ROnnys e should have been a single they played him in and it as heard hit. Really tough error
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
This guy frustrates
the dickens out of me. Again, I think it’s selfish of him to keep insisting he’s OK when HE”S NOT
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
no way for us to know
if he’s ok or not.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
unless
it’s just him being streaky.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou is frustrating me by allowing Soriano to stay in this game...
it frickin’ obvious to everyone he’s not right…
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou just talked
to him in the dugout and L & B are guessing Lou said tohim if you can’t run better than that you will sit.
/singsong voice/ He got yelled at!
Neener neener neeeeener!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Bay hitting Zambrano pretty well of late...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
mcclouth k's looking
(this is a joke on two guys posting pbp)
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
He can have it...
...the phone is slow to update. I just realized there were 2 of us.
good quick inning for Z
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Ron says even if Sori was running well, he doesn't make that play.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
northsider usually does a good job
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Double true!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
People are gonna get sick of our inside jokes one of these days.
Oh well.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Lazy Sunday is hardly an inside joke confined to the two of us, there, bluebythebook.
Maybe we should talk about Outback Steakhouse’s operating hours.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I thought we were all gonna mack on some cupcakes!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
two four six no twelve BAKERS DOZEN
i told you that i’m crazy for these cupcakes cousin!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I wonder if they'll reprise it for the sequel........
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Or lack thereof.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Duke has thrown over 20 pitches
Z is at 12, and Soriano may or may not have hurt his leg again.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Sori appears to be hurting, but hasn't come out of the game. Cubs scored on some rough glovework by the Bucs, lead 2-0
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
lee rbi and cedeno gets runner in on error
that shouldnt be
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Laroche lined out to DLee to end the inning
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Alright, since he stopped when I stopped: Bay flew to deep left-center, a single because Reed cut it off. Then LaRoche grounded to Lee at first, who handled it unassisted. 3 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
good thing Reed
wasn’t playing too shallow. It might have been over his head.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet...
carlos will now K…
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
NOPE!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
hits self in head for doubting Carlos
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Big Johnson!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
P Zambrano singles to CF! Johnson scores from 2nd! CHC 3 PIT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
there's reed!
if he hits, i really hope they just dump edmonds
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Holy crap, Z!!
Nice knock!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
how stupid for not bunting!!!!
/sarc
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1
LOL!
I hate sac bunts!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No one said anything when Theriot bunted one foul though.
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
we were all talking
about soriano
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
ohhhh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! - kool-aid man
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
he get a good swing at it?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
looked good on gameday
lol
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
SS Theriot bounces back to Duke at P, GOMEZ DROPS THE BALL! Runners at 1st and 2nd with 1 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Duke made a nice jumping stop, tried to start the DP at SS, but Gomez just missed it.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Wow, the Bucs are playing BrweCrew defense tonight.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Arrrr!
They be mightily fortunate for our lads!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Favorable winds, me hearties!
Aye, Favorable indeed…
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Can we declare today Unofficial Talk Like A Pirate Day?!?!
I love Talk Like A Pirate Day!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Be the change ye wish ta see
yar…
All we be sayin, is be givin’ peace a chance, me hearty…
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeaargh,
I say let it be, me hearties!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
As long as it's not "Field Like A Pirate Day"...
the hook, eypatch and peg-legs make your fielding % go down fast.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
is that what 's
Tom Meinwossnames issue is?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Bucs actually have the worst defense in baseball
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
But then 1B Lee promptly grounds 6-4-3. 3 out.
BOTTOM 2ND
CHC 3
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Good lord, guys, take a pitch.
Sori, Theriot, and Derrek all swing at the first thing they see. Sheesh.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
HaHa!!
3-0 Cubs
The Pirates are my second favorite team.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
damn it lee!
why doesn’t he just at least lift the ball or take a few?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
He must have just finished reading this...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
bwahahah
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
ok...
please, i didn’t mean it angrily – if you took time to look at my posts they are very positive. i love dlee
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
after i looked at it
i noticed that – but i assure you, i didn’t mean it that way this has been a great game and it seems like overall DLee is back the last few games
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
its okay
just try working on your tone.
Thanks
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 23, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS:
Tonight is fireworks night at PNC! ooooh-aaaaaah-eeeeee!
Great White is playing after the game?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
The nightclub fire in Rhode Island a few years ago
Great White was playing and their pyrotechnics caused a fire that killed dozens of people.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
OK..
that sucked all the humor right out of it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't that funny to begin with.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
ROTFLMAO
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
3B Mientkiewicz stands in with his mighty hitting prowess and walks. Z is afraid. Runner at 1st, 1 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
gameday is verra verra slow today.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Gameday and this thread.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I must be lucky
rarely do the threads here slow down to the point of not working for me, and I usually have 15 tabs and five seperate apps running on my relatively mid-range laptop.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Me to..
I know I have a fast internet connection, you must too.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 23, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
it doesn't suck.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
we, however, are quick of wit
evens out in the end :)
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
Len and Bob..
PLEASE don’t get the rule book out again, it gives me a headache!
Hey, it's a new century!
Z owns Paulino.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
SS Gomez strikes out swinging on a slider way outside. 3 out.
TOP 3RD
CHC 3
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
yes.
and 32 pitches.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Pirates don't have anyone younger in their system that's a SS besides Gomez?
Yech!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Bixler
who is inept at the plate
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Check THIS out, guys.
you know how we joke about trading Marquis for a used infield rake?
This independant minor leaguer was traded for ten bats.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-05-23-bat-trade_N.htm
2008: The year we put it all together.
There was a diary on this earlier....
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
really?
I totally missed it.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Familiarize yourself with the recent FanPosts!
That said, still funny.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
wonder how it feels to be that guy
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Really glad we didnt trade for Brian Roberts....
he sucks…. And Nick Markakis is regresing..
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Roberts has some sort of foot problem
but Markakis is about where he was last year.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
check out his numbers they arent that decent
he is striking out like DUnn or Sosa
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
absolutely true
just compare dero and brob’s stats, dero owns him cept SBs. and markakis…i had to cut him from fantasy in favor of carlos quentin
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
people on their boards are getting ver impatient and nervous
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Beer an Inning
Is hard when Zambrano is on the mound.
3B Ramirez lines a single to left-center! Three innings, three leadoff hits.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Who is it always saying we make mediocre pitchers look good?
Gorzelanny ERA against the Cubs: 17.19
Gorzelanny ERA against all others: 2.28
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
Ramirez is really getting hot....
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't know
I don’t shower with him.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Though I suppose we could always ask Izturis
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
A-Ram
is my man-crush.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at the moment,
no. My wife would probably wnat to have speaks with me about that.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
w00t!
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
C Soto works Duke to a full count. Ramirez goes, grounder to 3rd, 5-3. No chance on Ramirez running. Runner at 2nd, 1 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
nice, productive out
which is really the sign of a good hitter – me gusta geo
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Nice use of the hit-and-run by LOu
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
2B Cedeno grounds to 2B, Sanchez makes the play 4-3. Ramirez to 3rd. 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
That's what I was talking about.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
RF DeRosa grounds down the 3rd base line fair! Ramirez scores! DeRosa gets a 2B. CHC 4 PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Derosa keeps that hitting streak going
and the Cubs are really getting some good swings on Duke now
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
how many is that for him now?
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
12, I believe
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No, it was broken in the last 'Stros game
0-3.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
With a 4 run lead
PIT is going to have a hard time pulling this out.
wooohooo!
Keep that Tom M guy at 3rd, Pitts! It’s working out VERY well for us!
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I hear they borrowed the idea from Wimbledon.
/that was bad
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Awesome!!!!!!
what a good pickup D-Ro was…. He cna look lost at times up ther but for the most part ahs nothing but good ABS
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I wish Johnson would shave that silly billy goat thingie on his chin
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
that is definitely not a soul patch
that’s just fugly
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
soul patch is just under the bottom lip in that dimple
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
I like it.
I wish I could grow one.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
my wife won't let me anyway.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
lol!
I’ll tell her you said that.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
parrot
is behind the plate right now. oh how I hate him
More errors than hits
How does this team manage decent ball against the rest of the league?!?
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair, it's only the 4th inning, and they're facing our best P.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I believe there is a rule
there can be only one.
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
CF Johnson weakly pops out to 2B. 3 out.
BOTTOM 3RD
CHC 4
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Cub offense is chuggin right along.
Too bad we can’t play the Buccos every week.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
i will be sad when we dont play them
we own them
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
hey, we
swept the Dbacks.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
nice
but he’s totally the green ranger.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Should make him the blue ranger.
I hated bily though. Stupid Geek!
people on this board are way to harsh about our announcers
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I just really like Pat's voice, and when Cory takes over, he doesn't have his voice
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Yea. Thats what I was implying too.
I guess HATE was a little harsh.
8 pitches to the pitcher?
oy.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronny is really improved in ever facet this season.
Just a much more polished, focused player.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Wish Lou would let that happen to Pie!
n/t
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Hey Gary
I tuned in earlier just in time to hear Bob and Len talking about Sori’s injury…
Is his leg acting up again?
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
He's favoring his right leg.
It flared up in the first, but by all accounts, he’s running better now.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Thanks
I won’t beat the (it’s DEAD Jim!) horse, but that was a concern of mine when he came back so fast without easing back into “real” playing…
Man, I sure hope he doesn’t end up screwing himself up further…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
I'm not sure yet
that he’s an everyday player - able to make quick adjustments, etc. - but I’d like to see him start twice a week.
Lou, are you listening? I’d like to see DeRo drop anchor at 2B, and turn Cedeno into the super-utility guy. That would give the MI more stability and take advantage of Cedeno’s speed in the OF. It would also be less wear and tear on DeRo.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
2B Sanchez hits a grounder to right side, Lee takes it, 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
CF McLouth gets in the act too. 3 outs. Jeez. Quick inning for Z.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
perception is everything
I guess… :P
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I count 1-2-3 as quick, ignore the clock. This is baseball! ; )
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I've done that before
but 8 pitches to Duke made me wince.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
suddenly
this game is DRAGGING.
43 pitches and we’re not out of the third? Is Z having control issues?
2008: The year we put it all together.
Zach Duke decided to foul off a few.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
15 pitches an inning
means you get thru 7 with 105 pitches. Thats damn goood.
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Z in a groove right now.
Let’s get some more runs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Zis frickin rolling along
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Love dem Beatsie Boys!
n/t
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Beatsie=Beastie
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
P Zambrano drops a fly ball in front of McLouth! 2-for-2, and that's four straight innings getting the leadoff hitter on with a hit. 0 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
me too
nice to see bats working
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
LF Soriano lines a base hit into LF! Runners at 1st and 2nd.....
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Zambrano is really zoned in tonight.
And Zach Duke is not long for this game. He’s missing over the plate.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Cubbies beating up in Duke.
Pat says a lot of pitches have been left over the plate.
9 hits in three innings +
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
SS Theriot bunts to LaRoche, he looks at 3rd and has no play! Late throw to 1st. BASES LOADED.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
he looked 3rd, then at 2nd, then finally turned around and decided to throw to 1st. D'OH
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Was that an attempt at a sacrifice?
For the 2nd time today by Theriot? Its not exactly a pitcher’s duel. Swing away!
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was bunting
for a hit.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This is like glorified batting practice.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Laroche makes a really dumb play.
Wow. That’s ignorant baseball.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ignoramous
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Bases jacked, no outs, Burnett up in the pen for the Buccos
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
God, ! wish we could play these guys all year!
We’d beat them into AAA.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Wasn't LaRoche the 1B
with multiple errors in one inning at Wrigley earlier this year?
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
1B Lee grounds to SS, run scores, 6-4-not 3, as 1B LaRoche had to dive to catch it. CHC 5 PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Man we are whupping butt
speaking of butt DLee has one of the best in baseball. A beauty to behold
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
Lee making a productive out there.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
3B Ramirez flies to RF, Soriano tags, Nady makes the catch, Soriano doesn't try it. 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I truly wonder if the Bucs know
what “double play” means, or how to execute one….?
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
scored FC or an E on the throw? No RBI for Lee if E right?
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 4-3 (.571), DRS: 1
That's the call. You're absolutely correct.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
FC. RBI for Lee
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Rammy's drive too shallow to score Sori and Nady can really throw the ball in RF.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
FC.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
C Soto strikes out swinging on a change-up. 3 out.
BOTTOM 4TH
CHC 5
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
i'm getting tired of hearing Pat say it's the Cubs Pirates Memorial Day Series.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
But I thought you loooved the velvety smooth voice of Pat Hughes?
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Geo,
its ok buddy all will be well
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
nice!
we are scoring w/small ball tonight, which is a great way to slowly/methodically tack on runs – love it!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Small ball is a myth.
Cubs are scoring because Duke is lobbing pitches over the plate and the Pirates keep dropping the ball.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
'small ball' makes me think of Dusty, and that's why i keep vomit bags nearby.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Gosh, I hope not.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on May 23, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry what is twss?
it seems bad, and i’m really meaning to be positive…i’m sorry
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
k gotcha
btw i didn’t realize “small ball” had a negative connotation here – i basically was just happy that though we are hitting the ball hard, even our outs have been really productive tonight
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
This should have been the blow'em out inning.
Oh well. I’ll still take 5-0.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
LF Thunder Bay, Canada, hits it off the top of the wall. I think they're calling interference. Some confusion here. Seems they're putting him at 3rd base.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
fan interferance.
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by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I am kidding!
at least not in this situation. Only for HR’s fair or Foul. Or if the hit off the wall or took a weird carom. NOT fan interference.
Good lord. Jason Bay really has Carlos' number.
GR 3B on fan interference. Might’ve cost him a homer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Pinella's got case, IMO.
It’s odd to put Bay at 3rd.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Lou might have a cse here that that should only be a GR 2B
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
boy next time I'm at a game
and a ball comes my way I’m just going to duck
It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa
Replay shows a fan trying to catch the fly ball, it hit the fan's glove and then caromed back into the field of play.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
But Reed gave up on it automatically. Usually, that's a double, not a triple.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Shoulda been a double
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
They're giving Bay a triple.
RECAP: Umpires determine if there was no interference, where would the runner have ended up? They’re ruling he would have had a triple.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Bad call.
Oh, well. Let’s hope Carlos got settled down, which is probably why Lou came out in the first place.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
What's really bizarre
is that Lou has been out uncounted time to argue, and only been thrown out that one time last year and then made a commercial about it.
Lou has changed.
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Lou was warned
that if he acted this way again, he’d face more than ejections.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
1B LaRoche strikes out swinging! Ball gets away from Soto, he tags out LaRoche. 1 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Laroche doesn't even try to run.
He’s not having a good day.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Laroche is not a smart ballplayer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
"But he knows what love is."
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
But does he wat me to show it?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sori
Great Team Player. Did you see the replay. He did not even move an inch
He suck’s He would fit in well on the METS
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
WTF?
If you’re talking about Bay’s drive, they all gave up on it because they saw the fan interfere. You’re way off base, here.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Every one moves when the ball is hit or thrown
It’s baseball 101
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
Oh, lord.
Another blog commentor-cum-baseball coach. You’re just looking for areason to bash a guy you don’t like. Lame.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Oh, right.
I didn’t play above Little League, so I can’t talk baseball.
/heads down into Mom’s basement. slams door, kisses “The Crow” poster.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
and by the way
If you ever had a sniff of big time BB you would agree.
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
ha ha!
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
Seriously...
why is every ex-”big-time” baseball player an a-hole?
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
Becaause they have to deal with us know-nothing peons.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Because the other big sports
require more teamwork and would never stand for it?
by californiachicagoan on May 23, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
My nose was stuffed up last time out to the ballpark, so I wouldn't know.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Please link me to your baseball reference page so I can properly worship at your feet, sir.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I just want to see the Cubs go deep in October
Guys like Sori dont get you there. Its all about team
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
Where do these guys come from?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
and she looks like a man...
oh wait…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Guys like Soriano definitely help you GET to October, which I think is a prerequisite for going deep in October.
Then again, what do I know, I only homered once in Colt League.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Despite the fact that teams with Sori on them have been to the postseason.
I’m starting to feel glad I never played “Big-time BB”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Please stop...
using facts as a means to win an arguement.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
umm....what is big-time BB?
am I missing something here?
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
I guess you'd have had to played "Big-time BB"...
to know what it is…
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a big time base on balls. like with the bases loaded for example. ribbie baby!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Bwahahaha!!
Stop it – you’re killin’ me!!! LOL!
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
playing with wooden bats after HS.
Lets see you figure that out
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
regular visitors
I cant wait to you guys start bashing him again.
Eveyone on this board has been on sori case
I bleed double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
Just not usually on a night when he's 2-3...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually he's hurting
right now. His legs are not good and he should sit out and let them heal. Makes him lool lazy but I don’t think he is.
No, just you and MDBNIU.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
guys like Sori
are CRITICAL to get you there.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
why on earth would he move on that shot?
it’s not like he could give an assist.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 23, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
RF Nady strikes out swinging! 91 mph fastball tailing away. Sweet. 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Big out!
Take away the sac fly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
and unscathed, as well.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
lol
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
1B Mientkiewicz (can't BELIEVE I can spell that without peeking) grounds to Lee, unassisted, Zambrano escapes UNSCATHED.
TOP 5TH
CHC 5
PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Warning signs: Cubs offense
They are swinging at everything… you’re not going to get 10+ hits everyday and it’s going to cost ball games in the future. Lee swinging at a pitcher’s pitch with a 2-0 count and the bases loaded is a perfect example. I’m getting a bit worried…
When the P is serving them up like Duke is tonight, methinks it's a pretty good idea to swing.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
No
The Cubs have been in this mode for some games now. And bases loaded no outs they probably could have gotten more with more patience. There’s never a good reason to be hackalicious.
What an inning by Z
i think the light has finally turned on…. Its nice to see
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
out of it unscaved!
i mean unscathed!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
that was the joke lol
all in good fun
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Cubs scoring per inning through the first 4: 2111
Hey, that’s my PIN!
/not true
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
PITCHING CHANGE
IN: 61 Sean Burnett LHP
OUT: 57 Zach Duke LHP
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Zach Duke
is pitching admirably well considering the way his defense has played behind him.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
pitched*
but yes, i think duke is a gamer
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Ronny!
5 straight leadoff hits! Small ball schmall ball, lots of doubles tonight!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrronny!
slash 1dec
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
He seems to look good everytime he plays
That makes the few days without Soriano that we will be getting a little more bearable.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
is this for sure or assumed?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
RF DeRosa walks (there you go, Luis.) 0 out, Runners at 1st and 2nd.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Nice patient AB for Derosa there.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
i wish i could see him!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
We're not hacking away this inning...
yet.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
reed not bunting?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
CF Johnson flies to deep LF, IT'S GONE!!! THREE RUN HOMER!!! CHC 8 PITT 0
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Holy Cow!!!!
Red Johnson, in his quest to remain ahead of Ted Lilly in SLG, jacks a 3-run Homer!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
i like this post
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
happy. happy.
joy. joy.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
NIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he looks bueno tonight!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
we've scored in every inning!
great game
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
he's hitting .333!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
Z can play LF is Sori is hurt.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And Z is such
a freakin stud I can almost feel his studliness through the TV!
Geovany Soto you're my Hero
It's only because I know your a girl...
that I won’t comment on that.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 23, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
boy Z is a really good hitter
And here we go with the soriano stuff again.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Wouldnt be surprised,
if Hoff plays LF the rest of the game
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