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Feel Better Now? - Cubs 12, Pirates 3

The Cubs started hitting almost the very second that the Pirates' Zach Duke took the mound and didn't stop all night, registering nineteen hits, scoring in seven of the nine innings and blowing out the Pirates 12-3 in a game that wasn't even that close. The Cubs now lead the major leagues in OBA and runs (runs by a wide margin, 279-267 over the 2nd-ranked Red Sox and Rangers), and are second in walks and OPS.

Yes, this is the Cubs we're talking about. You are not dreaming. This is really happening.

Everyone hit, and I mean literally everyone, with the exception of Geovany Soto, who went 0-for-4. (Hey, at least he picked a day when everyone else hit to have a bad day.) Who can we single out as a hitting hero of the night, when there were so many? Reed Johnson put the game out of reach with his three-run HR in the fifth, which made a 5-0 game into an 8-0 game. Johnson also had two doubles and totalled four RBI. Aramis Ramirez had three hits and scored three runs. Derrek Lee had two RBI.

It's clear that the injury that Alfonso Soriano suffered in April against the Reds wasn't totally healed when he came back, and still isn't totally healed. It may have been made worse during his first at-bat; you could clearly see him rounding first and hurting as he came into second base, and he left the game early -- I assume the club will say that was "as a precaution", but it would not surprise me to see Soriano have another DL stint. Micah Hoffpauir replaced him in LF, making one defensive play without incident. Speaking of players playing out of position, Mark DeRosa started in RF last night. I know he's played there before (and he had two hits and three RBI), but he misplayed one ball -- the one that hit high off the wall. Nate McLouth wound up on third. DeRosa went up high to try to catch the ball, but there's no way he could have; what he should have done, once he realized the ball was over his head, was to pull up and wait for the bounce. It didn't matter, as the runs would have scored anyway, and McLouth never did -- but this is what you'd see a lot of if Hoffpauir were to play RF on a regular basis.

So please, Lou. Don't. The team's winning the way things are. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.

Carlos Zambrano was outstanding last night. In addition to throwing seven strong innings, walking only one and allowing only the two runs that scored on McLouth's triple, he had a career-high four hits, driving in two runs and scoring once and raising his season batting average to .343. The best thing about Z's hitting last night was that he didn't try to smash home runs into the Allegheny River beyond the RF wall; instead, he had quality AB and took good swings and his four singles were quite productive. (It was also very smart of Z to run way out of the way in the fifth when Soriano hit into a double play.) Obviously, also, there's nothing wrong physically with Z, and he notes his changed pitching style this year as one of the reasons for his great start:

Zambrano walked one batter, and has cut down the number of free passes.

"The whole year, the key has been to throw strikes, first-pitch strikes, and be able to throw good pitches when I'm in trouble," Zambrano said. "That's the key all year long.

"When I feel good, I can challenge the hitter and I can throw my pitches for strikes and be ahead in the count," he said. "I'm not a machine, and sometimes I don't feel good and have to deal with neck pain or something, or my leg doesn't feel good that day, or I'm opening up too soon. I try to do the best to compete and do my job."

A-freakin-men, Z. Keep up the great work. Incidentally, believe it or not, that was the first four-hit game by a Cubs pitcher in almost 44 years -- since July 23, 1964, when a 37-year-old Lew Burdette had two singles, a triple and a HR in leading the Cubs to a 13-4 blowout of the Giants in San Francisco.

Jose Ascanio allowed his first run as a Cub, but still threw a decent inning, and Kerry Wood, who hadn't pitched since Sunday, had an efficient (10 pitches, 9 strikes) 9th inning, so he should be available today. The rest of the bullpen got another day off, good news for pitchers who have teetered on the edge of overuse this year.

Some of you who were there can probably tell me better, but it seemed as if it were a hugely pro-Cub crowd last night; the Pirates are 29th in MLB attendance, averaging only 15,583 before last night. The 32,656 announced last night more than doubled that, and I'd expect that to continue all weekend.

So enjoy. After 48 games the Cubs have still not lost more than two in a row this season, the mark of a team that can pick up and start winning again even after a couple of tough defeats like the last two in Houston. Yes, the schedule so far this year has been ridiculous, but I, for one, am going to miss the Pirates and their McDonald's worker jerseys after this weekend.

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"McDonald's worker jerseys"

Those orange tunics they wear over the black long sleeved shirts? Agreed, they look pretty ridic.
I remember a criticism of the Sox uniforms back in the ‘70s when they had the short pants: “You look sharp, you play sharp… you look sloppy, you play sloppy.”

by ChipSet on May 24, 2008 8:08 AM CDT   0 recs

Thank you scheduler

So the schedule is front-loaded with Pittsburgh; what’s wrong with that, exactly? Seems to have given us a big head start…

by santo4hof on May 24, 2008 8:13 AM CDT   0 recs

it means

we have a harder schedule later; more inclined to push us into slumping.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not necessarily.

We haven’t played the Giants yet, still have one series left with the Nats and Padres and Rockies, and you don’t really think the Marlins are this good, do you?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

who is going to be easier

than the Bucs?

If that’s not the problem with the schedule, what is, other than lack of balance?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We don't know who's going to be "easier".

As has been noted, the Pirates have played the rest of the NL pretty well; they are, for example, 5-2 against the Braves, and 3-0 against the Reds and Giants.

Some years teams just have other teams’ numbers. It’s apparent the Cubs have it over the Pirates this year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It doesn't matter how good or bad the Marlins are

They have our number, need I remind you of a trip down there last September.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on May 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That was last year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 3:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Z's average

is higher than every Pirate in the lineup last night. I suspect we’ll see him pitch hit more.

In another note, Pie went 0-4 last night lowering his average to .097 (3-31) since his demotion. It was his first game at “home” in Des Moines. If this doesn’t improve dramatically we may never see him again in ‘08.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on May 24, 2008 8:23 AM CDT   0 recs

Good

Pie is not a long term solution in CF and I won’t cry if he doesn’t get another shot. It will just mean that the Cubs will have to realize sooner rather than later that they have to do something about CF. If Pie is ever traded and gets to play everyday for another ML team then we will be able to revisit the argument and see who was “right”.

Some people will blame the Cubs handling of Pie if he continues to struggle in AAA. To all these people I will remind them that this version of Pie is the same version of Pie we saw in the winter league in the Dominican Republic.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pie stats in the dominican

AB: 91
AVG: .209
OBP: .242
SLG: .319
OPS: .561

Any of these numbers seem familiar?

by Luis on May 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't have it the exact numbers but

I remember at one point the average OPS being around .650-.675 or something like that. Pie was well below average anyway you look at it.

Fact is, Pie was pitched in the Dominican like he was pitched in the majors. I posted about it here in BCB.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I linked to Pie's team site below and You can go to the league page from there.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are correct

I mistakenly opened the stats for the 2004 season thinking they were the ones for this year.

Obviously a .684 OPS is a lot better than .560. Perhaps I’m biased against Pie. I understand the rationale in giving him more of a shot and normally I’d agree with it. But not with Pie. Time will tell.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but Pie is who we got

time only tells IF he gets his shot.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That .650 average is important context.

There were other big name stars down in the Caribbean who also put up ugly #s.

by DGU on May 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

91 AB's.

That’s quite a robust sample size you’ve got there. All that tells me is that he never really got a shot down there, either.

This also needs some context…..

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Everything is small

Let’s give every minor leaguer with good AAA stats 3,000 ABs before we even consider making a judgment.

...

by Luis on May 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how about 250?

That’s 250 in a row, not ten here and six there etc etc etc.

No one’s asking for 3k at bats. that’s hyperbole.

Just give the boy a SHOT.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what we call drawing an extreme and unwarranted conclusion,

and Pie needs more than the 63 AB’s he got this year, unless your enamoured of handing more AB’s to the -15 OPS+’ing Edmonds.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm happy with the Cubs

Exploring other options as I don’t think Pie will be anything much better than Patterson. With Pie 63 ABs from this year, plus what he did last year plus what I saw in the Dominican plus his overall approach to hitting, that is enough for me. It was enough for Lou. I understand is not enough for a lot of people here. We disagree. Another hitter, with another makeup, I don’t make my decision nearly as quickly.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

At least Patterson got a chance to fail.

He played 153 games at age 22 in 2002.

Pie has never started more than nine games in a row, and that was last year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 11:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lastings Milledge

Wasn’t Milledge a lot more hyped than Pie?

The Mets probably gave Milledge 56 games in 2006 and 59 games in 2007 and they gave up on him. Sometimes you make or have to make your decisions on smaller samples than what you’d like.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 11:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But, yet... the Cubs still never gave up on Cedeno

And, he’s finally starting to hit.

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Milledge has makeup issues

that caused the Mets to give up on him. Pie has excellent makeup. These are very different situations.

by DGU on May 24, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, you never see a glare on Pie's skin in front of the camera

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

excellent

mascara, too.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We absolutely need to do a better job of internal scouting

The Cubs have fallen in love with a number of their top prospects, identified them as untouchable during trade talks… and then watched them fail at the major league level.

Then, there a scenarios like the Ryan Theriot story: they tried to make Theriot a switch hitter… and wasted a good couple of seasons doing that. When they finally pulled the plug on that, he got to the bigs pretty quickly. He should’ve been here much earlier.

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummmm....

According to MLB’s Winter League site, these are Pie’s Dominican League numbers for 2007-2008 for Los Tigres de Licey, who won the Carribean Series Title:

127 AB, .244/.314/.370, 2 HR, 14 RBI, 11 BB, 30 K, 6 SB

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's not terrible, either.

too many Ks, not enough walks. But I’d take .250 out of the lad for a year if it meant he started every game. Even in a platoon.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Especially when you take

his defense into account with that average.

by inukjim on May 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's the team average for Licey:

.250/.315/.334
Pie was almost right in line with the team averages, on a team that won the league title.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Elijah Dukes hit .236 in that league....

He and Pie are both 23 years old…

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL. Oneli Perez... 12 saves and a 0.52 ERA in 17 innings

Then, he gets to AAA Charlotte, and gets SHELLED with a 9+ ERA in 17 innings… and consequently waived by the White Sox.

Go figure…

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just looking at some of the young prospects

Who played there… for comparison

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Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dukes and Pie are radically different players.

and radically different sorts of people. There is no comparison.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Edwin Encarnacion hit .228

Rafael Furcal, however, hit a robust .367

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And Eric Aybar hit .252

while Jose Guillen got nary a hit.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

His last full season at AAA warrant his subsequent MLB promos.

His numbers against MLB RHP are borderline tolerable given his defense his age, and that the team is getting enough offense right now to carry him. If his slugging v. RHP were normal then he never would have lost his job, but he did and it’s his own fault.

There is no reason to give up on him now. It doesn’t cost us anything to give him another shot with the MLB club, but if the team thinks it better that he earn that next shot then I have no problem with leaving him in the minors for the rest of the season if that’s what it takes.

No trades are going to happen now and unless you get a great deal to improve the club at the deadline by including Pie in that deal then he stays with us. There is no reason to conclude that he’s done or he needs to go at this point.

by DudeVf11 on May 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

Well put.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Never felt that bad initially, however...

this is PGH we’re talking about. The only general concern that I hope gets improved upon as the season progresses is this. Versus PGH, 9-1; the rest of the NL, 20-18. I know, I know, you’re supposed to beat up on the bad teams. Fine. But against the teams closest to the Cubs (over the full season, not just recently), the Cubs are 4-8. That must improve.

Otherwise, the OBP, walks, runs and offence in general is great. They now have to translate all that good stuff into a higher number in the “W” column against all their opponents.

OK, onwards and upwards. Get the win today and look forward to tomorrow.

As for Fonzie, I’m hoping he’s just still stiff. Lou on SportsRise this morning spoke of a lack of confidence in the legs’ strength. Could be a smoke screen though. So if he’s just a little lame, let him play through it. If there’s an injury risk, let him sit out. These next games and perhaps even some of the upcoming home stand (LA and Col) could be opportunities to let him rest.

by blackhawk24 on May 24, 2008 8:29 AM CDT   0 recs

With leg injuries,

that’s not all that uncommon. It takes some time before you can trust that leg again. If it’s that, he’s just going to have to get over that mental hurdle. I suspect, however, that Sori may be covering for the fact that he’s just not healed yet.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 9:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe you're right

But Fonzie seems a little mentally “fragile”. He’s a little afraid of outfield walls, and seemed pretty awful running last night. Maybe he’s still hurt. If so, get out of the lineup until you’re healed. But his mental fragility in running and fielding near the warning track is a little disconcerting.

by zevkalman on May 24, 2008 9:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't buy this psychoanalysis

angle on any of the Cubs. Not with Hill, not with Z, and not with Fonzie. He’s not afraid of walls or any such nonsense. When your leg gives out on you, it takes a long time until you trust it again, and that’s not being scared, it’s being cautious. He’s either stiff, still hurt, or still recovering, but he’s not afraid of anything and he’s not mentally fragile.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this year

except for the week after he came off the DL, he’s been very willing to go backwards towards the wall.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe So

Last year it seemed Sori was tentative of outfield walls and I would tend to agree with Zev on that basis. However let’s see what a healthy Sori does this year – could be he just needed to get used to playing in Wrigley.

I’ll also say that when you’ve been hurt it’s natural to favor the arm/leg/knee you injured and be hesitant to go all out.

by SecondSon on May 24, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he did that last year as well

came back early from the leg injury, and never really revealed the wrist problems till after it was all over.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but the Pirates are 21-17

against the rest of the league. And I don’t think that anybody is reading too deeply into that. At this point, I’m not going to worry much about it.

by Short4Fanatic on May 24, 2008 9:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

June will be a decisive month

we don’t play anyone in our division in June. It’s fun to win, but when we only play weak teams we are not being tested enough. Let’s hope we get these types of wins next month.

by coral on May 24, 2008 8:42 AM CDT   0 recs

Congratulations, Micah! Only 3 more good appearances and you will have won a starting job until the trade deadline!

Bruce Miles reports Lou saying, “I was pleased with [Micah’s] 2 hits the other day. Like I said after the ballgame, and I meant it, we’ve got to get a left-hand bat in there that can drive the ball. If this young man can do that, yeah, we’ll get him some playing time, and we’ll have to make some adjustments.”

Lou is still set on needing a “left-hand bat… that can drive the ball.” This is why Eric Patterson is not an option; this is why Felix Pie is not (and never was) an option. Lou is looking for a slugger. How many LH sluggers are there who play CF beyond Jim Edmonds? (And the move to Micah seems to suggest Lou’s done with Edmonds.) Maybe Milton Bradley would count and be available at the deadline. But that’s a dicey option for numerous reasons.

So, basically what this means is that Fukudome is being moved to CF and to #2 in the batting order and we are spending our trade chips, not on a pitcher, but on a lefty slugger.

by DGU on May 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT   0 recs

This really is Lou's White Whale.

I don’t understand the obsession with having a lefty slugger in a lineup that is already near the top of every major offensive category. It boggles the mind. And now he’s going to weaken the defense in his pursuit of his lefty that can drive the ball. Ye gods.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 9:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it's tied to Lou's disappointment with Fukudome

Preseason, Lou was talking about Dome batting 3rd, 4th, or 5th. But Dome has not driven the ball the way Lou wants. Dome looks right now to be a #2 hitter and this is really irritating Lou, because he can’t move Dome to #2 and still break up the righties with the roster he has. But he also doesn’t want to leave Dome at #5.

It’s still possible that Dome will adjust more and begin to drive the ball regularly by the end of the season, but Lou doesn’t go in for long-term evaluations of players. In his mind Dome is a #2 hitter, and an inferior one at that because of his lack of speed.

Complicating this is Soto’s emergence. What LH hitter hits well enough to justify hitting before Soto in the lineup? That’s why I think we are more likely to trade for a name (Griffey) than a guy with upside.

At some point you just have to say, “Our lineup is so hard to ‘balance’ because everyone is hitting well in their own way and that’s a good ‘problem’.” Al is right, the Cubs shouldn’t “fix” it.

by DGU on May 24, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

Lou’s creating a problem where there wasn’t one to begin with.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 24, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

100% agreed.

The team is hitting the ball all over the place and the Cubs are playing .600 ball and he wants to screw with it?

I like Lou, but this obsession is unhealthy.

It’d be solved if Edmonds would hit, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps

Perhaps Lou is looking at the bigger picture. I certainly think that’s the case. And if it is, now is the time you can do things about it, not later in the playoff after you’ve been shut down by tough RH pitchers.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What if you face a team that has a lot of LH pitchers?

Seriously, you’re saying that ONE lefthanded hitter is the difference between winning a playoff series and not?

Nonsense.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nonesense?

First question: if you face a team that has a lot of LH pitchers the Cubs can and will fill the lineup with RH hitters already on the team.

Second comment: one good LH power hitter makes your club have a better shot. And having a better shot is all you can ask for. Nothing is guaranteed. It makes sense to try to do something about before and not after. Lou is being proactive and I personally agree with him.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

It really depends on WHO this LH power hitter is, how you fit him into the lineup and the defense, and what you have to give up to get him.

by cwyers on May 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is true

And we probably won’t be able to answer this question one way or the other until or near the trade deadline.

All I’m saying is the Cubs (or Piniella) has identified a problem and may push the Cubs in a direction that will make them a better overall team. I’m happy that they are not waiting to hit a slump to think of getting better, for now and for the possible playoffs.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 11:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, no, no

If we get locked into thinking we have a problem that is “Need LH Power Hitter” then we start looking for solutions that end up looking like Jim Edmonds. We are dangerously close to trading Cinci a player who will help them for years just to have the right to watch Ken Griffey make outs before Soto hits.

Sure, it’s nice to upgrade our lineup. The problem is that Lou’s not talking about upgrading the lineup. He’s talking about getting a certain type of hitter, who, when I look at what is likely to be available in 2008, is very likely to DOWNGRADE the lineup. Is playing Jim Edmonds an upgrade over the other options we had available (and I’m not even talking about Pie)? No. Is playing Hoffpaiur in RF an upgraged over the other options we have available? No. They’re just LH bats who MIGHT have some pop.

by DGU on May 24, 2008 11:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Can we focus on improving the rotation please?

And add a real quality glove on the bench for the middle-infield late inning defensive replacement?

Cubs 2008 (29-19)
Home (19-8) | Road (10-11) | 1-Run Games (5-5) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 24, 2008

by SackMan on May 24, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

When you convince yourself that you have to do something, you back yourself into a corner. And you pave the way to doing something stupid so that you get a player that fits a certain stereotype, regardless of whether or not he’s an actual upgrade to your team.

by cwyers on May 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not exactly

Fukudome was a product of this exact type of thinking. The Cubs backed themselves into a corner in terms of what they wanted for RF and actually got it.

by Luis on May 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT