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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Sunday 5/25, 12:35 CT

Chicago Cubs at Pittsburgh Pirates, May 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT



Next Game

Chicago Cubs
@ Pittsburgh Pirates

Sunday, May 25, 2008, 12:35 PM CDT
PNC Park

Ted Lilly vs Paul Maholm

Sunny. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

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In five games between the Cubs and Pirates in Pittsburgh so far this year, the teams have played 59 innings -- that's an average of almost twelve per game. Enough of that. Time to win in nine, and then say goodbye to the Pirates for more than two months; their next meeting after today will be on August 1.

Notes:
  • Nice article about Rick Sutcliffe and his current battle with colon cancer. Thanks to my friend Craig in Kansas City for the link.
  • Sean Marshall pulled a hamstring in his last start. He'll miss at least 1, maybe 2 starts. So much for Lou's "get another lefty in the rotation" plan. Bruce Miles' article also says Alfonso Soriano's "confidence" in his leg is up, but I still saw him running pretty slowly last night.
  • Geovany Soto likes hitting fifth. And with the number of runs he's driving in, he ought to stay in that slot.
  • MLB is getting very concerned about maple bats and the way they shatter into pieces, rather than just crack. Good. They should be, and do something before someone else gets seriously hurt. Pirates batting coach Don Long was lucky:

    Long suffered a gash to the left side of his nose and just above his lip when whirling wood became a near-lethal weapon. The sharp end of the bat not only left a nasty scar, it damaged a nerve that left part of his upper lip without feeling.

    "The ball (off Nate McLouth's bat) was hit down the right-field line and I was following the ball and didn't even see the bat break," Long recalled during a recent stop at Wrigley Field. "It hit me and I saw the blood coming out.

    "I was lucky. It could have hit me in the eye."

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Paul Maholm
P. Maholm
Pirates
5-4 W-L 2-5
5.14 ERA 5.03
56 SO 38
19 BB 20
7 HR 4
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 5-4 10 10 0 0 0 0 56.0 52 32 32 7 19 56 5.14 1.27


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Paul Maholm 2-5 9 9 1 0 0 0 53.2 64 32 30 5 20 38 5.03 1.57

Hard to believe after 11 games against the Pirates in less than two months, but the Cubs have not faced Paul Maholm yet this season. His last appearance against the Cubs was last September 21 at Wrigley Field, and Aramis Ramirez and Alfonso Soriano homered off him and Maholm allowed ten hits and six earned runs in two innings. (Maybe that's why his face looks so blank in that picture.)

Ted Lilly's overall numbers don't look that great, but in his last six starts he is 5-1, 3.13 with 42 strikeouts in 37.1 innings. His only appearance against the Pirates this year wasn't good -- 3.2 innings, allowing 5 earned runs on April 7, but the Cubs won that game anyway.

Same TV drill as yesterday: WGN, FSN Pittsburgh, EI, and the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment thread will post at 2:00 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Hear, hear!

I’m in the mood for a blowout!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

woo hoo

Sue’s first! Let’s hear it for the girls!

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wear protection...

... helmets (done), safety goggles, and kevlar uniforms for the base coaches!

by DrCrawdad on May 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

At this rate they're going to need plexiglas shields!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe MLB should install some penalty-boxes for the base coaches!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lineups

Cubs
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Johnson, CF
Fukudome, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Blanco, C
Lilly, P

Bucs
Sanchez, 2B
Rivas, SS
McLouth, CF
Bay, LF
Nady, RF
LaRoche, 1B
Bautista, 3B
Paulino, C
Maholm, P

by Bruce Miles on May 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Johnson batting fifth?

::: shaking head ruefully :::

I think Lou may be losing it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

that if Ronny had had a performance akin to Theriot’s performance last night, I doubt he’d be starting the next day.

Johnson batting 5th is just silly.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

About last night

Lou said he walked to the mound slowly that one inning because he was mulling his options at the time. Was a pretty funny sight.

by Bruce Miles on May 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

One wonders what the other options were!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on May 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was funny.

According to some on the board, the Pittsburgh announcers were pretty incensed about it….

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's a Soto-less lineup.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Lou is just trying to motivate Lilly at the plate.

Lilly: .267/.313/.333
Johnson: .259/.342/.360

Ted’s got his work cut out for him today.

by cwyers on May 25, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially with Reed in an RBI spot.

Ted’s gonna be PO’d.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should send him down

to work on his swing….

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

Until Hoffpauir gets some more at-bats to prove himself, Ted’s still our second-best lefty hitter (unless you count Zambrano, the switch hitter). It really short-changes our lineup to not have Ted around. You’ve got to let him play through the slump.

by cwyers on May 25, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

We could sign Matt Morris to fill his spot

until he gets straightened out.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really wish you would take this seriously.

Sometimes I think you’re just kidding around with all of this.

by cwyers on May 25, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reed Johnson is hitting 5th today.

I can’t take anything seriously after seeing that.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is serious:

If we could somehow get 2006 Reed Johnson (.319/.390/.479, 124 OPS+), I’d be overjoyed, but seeing as he’s 32, I’m not hopeful.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

is SHOCKING

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Un-freakin-believeable...

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm starting to fear the cardinals are actually for real

Beat the dodgers again last night with a loshe vs penny matchup and are playing very well on their west coast road trip, a trip we always struggle on regardless of if the nl west sucks like it does this year. Outside of the NL central I see the only teams that can be great are the dbacks and phillies, mainly because the phillies have such a great lineup. However, it does not look like the cardinals are going away anytime soon

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm starting to really dislike Lou.

He’s always going with his “vets” over the more talented younger players. If he doesn’t think he can win with young players, look at the Diamondbacks. Cedeno is rotting on the bench behind the much less talented Theriot, who is having a nice little season so far. But we all know Ronny brings so much more to the table.

Then there’s Pie, who’s been called our CF’er of the future by Hendry and Fleita being touted up so much, only to never see consistent playing time behind the scrappy (see the trend here) Johnson, and far less talented Edmonds. It’s really sickening. You can’t get in any rhythm when you only get 4 games in a row at most, this coming from a former player myself.

It’s great what he’s doing to these guys’ confidence.

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 25, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree, Cedeno should be in at short.

He has a much stronger arm and better range and can actually display hitting for power at times while the most you will get out of riot is a double. And anyone who says to get rid of Edmonds I would have to agree strongly with, I don’t care if it was for the league minimum, this guy is done and we all knew that beforehand

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

One more thing

Would any of you consider moving Marmol to the rotation next year? Really, he could probably do it, and be like Kelvim Escobar (without the injury) and we could replace him with Ascanio, or possible sign K-Rod in the off-season. Thoughts?

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 25, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

No.

One, Marmol’s been tried as a starter and he has shown neither the stamina nor the repertoire for the job.

Two, he’s likely the best setup man in the majors. He’s too valuable where he’s at to consider moving him.

IMO, It’s best to leave him where he is, especially considering that with Hart, Marshall, Gallagher, and Hill, the Cub have plenty of options for nest season’s rotation without fixing something that isn’t broken.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mentioned this half-jokingly

in the wrap-up thread. he was a starter when he came up and had mixed results. his stuff is obviously much MUCH better now and he is as dominant a pitcher as there is in the bigs. if the yanks can do it w/joba, i see no reason the cubs couldn’t with marmol but considering he was a starter in the bigs and he is soooooo good in his spot now, i dont think he will be a starter again.

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here at last

Made it into Chicago yesterday for my long delayed visit. Despite jetlag it was great to just sit in a bar with some cub fans to watch the game. Long long time since I did that. Only thing missing was the win. Lets get one today. Then its back to Wrigley Field and I’ll be there. Friendly Confines! Cubs Baseball! Meeting Al! Can’t wait.

by simonuk on May 25, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

welcome, simon

you’re going to love your time in Chicago

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

hendry sounds like it will be a while till edmonds' chance runs out

:(

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

That situation has a good chance of resolving itself...

... just as soon as Edmonds gets hurt. Say, sometime within the next 30 minutes, I’d guess.

by BlueSox on May 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

that was depressing to hear.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 25, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows what the hell was going through his mind when he decided to sign this washed up hack

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

38th

Yes!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Chicago Cubs Baseball Is On The Air!

I love hearing Pat say it…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

it is the best!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope..

The Cubs are livelier than this thread..:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Weak flyout to start the game

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

sigh..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

as len points out

how the hell can the pirates, who have a tiny payroll, afford so many (freaking UGLY) jerseys?

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

lol..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 pitches 2 outs

geez..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh not a good 1st

theriot looks AWESOME

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeeze what a terrible inning

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

look sluggish

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's go Theodore!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

DLee catching today...

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya I don't know, I just have a bad feeling about today

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Crap

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

wow sweet home run RIVAS

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

cept NOT damn it

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

wierd ball

not even out…

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

SCREWED AGAIN!

it didn’t go out.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

fonz should catch that

he looks like a total fool

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam Dunn like...

''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.

by CubsBullsBears on May 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

reminded me of jose canseco

when the ball hit his head and bounced out – same degree of tomfoolery

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did say to myself

he should have caught that.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either way, the fact that LUIS RIVAS is hitting it that far

we deserve to be down 1-0

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

touche

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luis Rivas should never be putting a charge into anything

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn..

Replays show it’s not a homer…..but geez, I can jump higher than Sori..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

He told Lou it's ok..

It’s just a “confidence” thing says Sori..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring on...

Instant Replay!!

''As long as he doesn't talk World Series, I'm happy.'' Lou Piniella on Ronny Cedeno.

by CubsBullsBears on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

NEED INSTANT REPLAY!!

I hope it happens next year!

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Our hitters are still asleep

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

And our leftfielder too.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

aram hit it high enough...

alllllmost long enough…sort of…and here’s Reed “i could hit 5th if they gave me roids” Johnson!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I will be surprised if we score a run today

we look horrible

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

crap crap CRAP!

you HAVE to execute the hit and run!!!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

lols

entire team needs some time off

by grifdog on May 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a good start

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

NIIIIIIIIIIICE

another runner thrown out by MILES while the hitter looks like an idiot at the plate striking out (why only hit and run w/two strikes?)

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: chocolate factory down the street working overtime

my place smells like the inside of a hollowed easter bunny

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

yum

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine

smells like potatoes..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

damn it

this will jinx us and OMG LILLY YOU ARE SUCKING

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Release date?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

for sure..

did you see the Madden09 preview? Randy Moss does the Soulja Boy dance…lol..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lilly

looks like he’s reverting to early-season form.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

fireworks again.

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

No need for replay

on that one..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on May 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Nady hr

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Lets hope he gets the win seeing how they play the cardinals

who do not seem to lose anymore

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it true he throws 100?

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no clue how he pitches have never seen him

but all I know is he is one the highly touted pitching prospects in the league

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i heard 95-96

which is absolute GAS for a lefty, and his hook is big time

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

lilly is getting hammered

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

2 runs is not "hammered"

it’s still early

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just mean balls are getting hit hard

which i think you would agree with

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah we do

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on the screws

and into center. Lilly doesn’t have his stuff.

by BlueSox on May 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

and we got no bullpen.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

woo!

there we go, he’s going to settle in now

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

If the team can't win on the road

@ least 50% of the time – it will be hard to repeat.

In the early going, the WC could come from the Central, which could give the Cubs a chance. Yesterday they truly grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory…courtesy of our “plunk-’em=first” closer.

by The E-Man on May 25, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Good start to the inning

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

awright!

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Blacno rbi single

2-1 game

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!

dero has been good (cept for that pathetic 3-pitch strikeout last night w/bases loaded) waaay better than the average 2nd baseman

and there’s one back! BLANCOOO!!!!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

to bad ted wont swing away

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on May 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

dang it lilly

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

fonzies baaaaack

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you Sori!

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

soriano hr

3-2 cubs

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

REDEMPTION!

SORIANO! 3-2 cubs!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

you were right sue

we can do this!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've got to

accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don’t mess with Mister In-Between

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

sosa incarnated?

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully ted can settle down after this inning

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

DLEE FAIR BALL

bah, ball hops over the kiddie fence for a ground rule 2B

by grifdog on May 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

woo woo!

tough break that it bounced into the stands riot woulda scored, but thats ok
(2nd time through the order we usually look better)

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

ram swinging for fences

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

nice play by power machine rivas

but well hit and nice rbi

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

nice shot of sammy giving the peace sign

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Cmon, Uncle Ted

throw strikes, get outs.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

has anybody else noticed....

that when they show a shot of the cubs dugout, Edmonds is no where to be seen. Since Edmonds has been with the cubs, I have noticed this several times. Not sure what to make of it, but find it curious.

by chipdowski on May 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Ramirez's groundout just re-emphasized to me

That RBI’s can be a misleading stat. I’m sure I’m not saying anything groundbreaking here, but Lee doubles, getting Theriot from first to third. Ramirez grounds out, getting Theriot home, and Ramirez is the one who gets ultimate credit for getting the run home. I know there’s not really another way to do it, but it’s screwy.

by Brett Taylor on May 25, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

And furthermore...

Ramirez gets the RBI, but gets an 0-1. Had it been a fly ball, he gets an 0-0. I know we all know this. Just sayin’.

And Rivas sucks.

by Brett Taylor on May 25, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

brenly

subtle shot at the yankees organization re: billy crystal AB

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

dang

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

How about we try

going through an inning w/o giving up a HR, Ted?

by cocknfire on May 25, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

RIVAS

holy crap…somebody ate an HGH Manwich this morning

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

wow..

question regarding the HOF game. Does it count for our record or is it an exibition?

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

exhibition

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh...

it’s an honor to play the game?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exhibition

n/t

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by BigJohnAZ on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ted's giving out 2 for 1 specials today

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

great day for lilly to be awful

day game after a 14-inning night game, thanks ted

by grifdog on May 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

in his defense

if he only gives up 1 hr an inning and goes 9, that’s only 9 runs – we’ve scored ten runs before its EASY…!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

we scored zero

they scored two

then we scored four

then they scored one

I like these trends, that’s ok.

What is UP with Dome???

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i think he's coming off the ball

his timing is off cuz he’s bailing from the box

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

true, but

if his timing is off he’s gonna roll grounders more than the average joe hitter. same thing happens with ichiro – if he’s right he’s knockin’ base hits all over, but if he can’t find his spot he grounds out over and over again

in short, the problem isn’t the lunge outta the box – its the timing of his motion away from the box

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

whaddup with Dome? Nagging thought all week…

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forget Center field, folks.

We need a pitcher. Not the Marshall, Hill, Gallagher, Hart, et al many-headed monster. A good 2 pitcher.

by BlueSox on May 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

carlos marmol

but that’s waaaaay too risky – to me at least

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...

Leave him in the bullpen. You take him out of the 8th inning, who you gonna put there?

by cocknfire on May 25, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

just saying he might be good enough, but i dont think we should either (although i think ascanio is going to be goood)

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

no hr this inning!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

What a way measure improvement.

by BlueSox on May 25, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

got out of it

no runs for Pitt this inning. Let’s build on that.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

whats teds pitch count?

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on May 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

62

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by BigJohnAZ on May 25, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

lilly looked like a morAn lol

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

riot is amazing

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a big difference

between a goose and a duck

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

sad fact

Numbers of some of our most popular ducks are significantly lower than they were fifteen years ago and most of the Canada geese no longer migrate as far south as North Carolina. Millions of acres of wetlands and other vital habitat for ducks and geese have been lost, and more are destroyed each year.

http://www.fws.gov/nc-es/edout/albeduck.html

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

If you are the duck you get to sit, but if you are the goose you gotta get up and run!

by californiachicagoan on May 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's all googly

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh no, its...

RIVASSS

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, he got his wish

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great advice...

two on for McClouth

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 25, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

see above

shouldn’t it be “canada cubs fan”

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man... where did this guy come from?

He hit like .250+ last year… with 13 HRs.

he’s already got 12 HRs this year!

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk

but i think he’s here to stay

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi Len...

... I hear you read my post.

by DrCrawdad on May 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Larry: We have no bullpen

Try throwing something they don’t hit.

by cocknfire on May 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

::holds breath::

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

....sort of sighs....

c’mon Ted one more just one more

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

WHEW

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHEW!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

ba-ZAM!

inning over

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

now

let’s take some pitches, give him a rest, for pete’s sake.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay!

How about some insurance!

Soriano should hit 5th. Period.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

WHEW

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on May 25, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

i feel like i have to say

WHEW!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

It's about time

Everybody else had already gotten around to it ;)

by cocknfire on May 25, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

f*ck you mclouth

and the organ player – wtf?!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

i wish he played for the cubs

and yes, i HATE HIM

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe we can trade for him

remember: its the pirates, they love unloading their young talent onto us for our crap

by grifdog on May 25, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time I hear "Maholm"

I think “luau”

... oh yeah… begrudgingly good catch by McLouth

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

amen

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think both are legit, honestly

but if i had to choose, i think mclouth is LEGIT and ludwick might not amount to much

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ludwick

He looks like LaRussa’s annual “science” project.

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. - George F. Will

by 15% on May 25, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

sharp single

we need runs real bad here

by grifdog on May 25, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

sure would

be nice to get a couple or three

by sue369 on May 25, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

FRAKKING FRAKKING FRAK!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

THERIOT YOU DOUCHE!

amazing throw but he couldn’t come up with it…riot maybe hurt but staying in looks like

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

BAD positioning for Theriot

and now it’s a tie game.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

BLANCO!!!

gosh hold onto the ball…

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

criminy

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by Emelie on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Theriot needs to sit a day.

by salparadise23 on May 25, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

or three

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot is now officially on my poop list

It's fun to be a Cub right now. -- Mark DeRosa

by Emelie on May 25, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

and Lilly walks a guy

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

He's toast

get’em outta there.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 25, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont know that we have that luxury

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on May 25, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ascanio is the only one left

just got out of teh inning.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 25, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably right, but this game might get out of hand here pretty quick.

n/t

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by BigJohnAZ on May 25, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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