Sweep! -- Cubs 2, Dodgers 1

by Al on May 29, 2008 8:36 AM CDT in Recaps Comment 418 comments

That was great theater, wasn't it?

Before a near-sellout of 39,945 on a night that was, by the end, starting to get cold, the Cubs provided 9th and 10th inning dramatics that had Wrigley Field rocking as I have never heard it for a regular season game this early in the year, and Alfonso Soriano shut up his critics (for a day, at least) by poking a single into left field, scoring Mike Fontenot with the winning run in an excruciatingly exciting 2-1 Cubs win over the Dodgers, completing the Cubs' fourth three-game sweep at home this season, moving their home record to a spectacular 22-8, pushing them 11 games over .500 for the first time since the last day of the ill-fated 2004 season, and... remarkably:

After 118 seasons of competition between the Cubs and the Dodgers, their all-time series is now dead-even: 1,010 wins for each team. I thought about this and these two franchises have traded periods of dominance. When the Cubs were a great team in the early years of the 20th Century, the Dodgers were horrid. When the Dodgers were winning ten pennants in the 20 years from 1947-66, the Cubs were awful.

But now: 2,020 games split down the middle. History is turning around.

Remind me again why the Cubs need another starting pitcher? They allowed an admittedly hurting LA "offense" three runs in this series, and the only one Carlos Zambrano allowed last night was on a bases-loaded walk after he had helped load the bases by hitting Matt Kemp. Z admitted in his postgame comments that he knew he didn't have his best stuff or command; he walked four, tying his season high, and had to get, essentially, five outs in that tense eighth inning because his defense deserted him (Mark DeRosa let a ball go off his glove which was ruled a hit, and Ryan Theriot made a throwing error, both of which could have been outs). Z threw an alarmingly high total of 130 pitches -- something we haven't seen since the Baker era. However, Lou said in his own postgame remarks that he'll keep Z on a short leash in his next start and also, he left Z in to finish the 8th partly because of the fans:

"I let the fans make that decision," he said of the applause that resulted when he left Zambrano in. "I told [Dodger third base coach] Larry Bowa 'I know how to make decisions to please the fans.'"

He was kidding. I think.

Anyway, other than the one inning where the Dodgers scored, Z was pretty solid, as were Derek Lowe and Jonathan Broxton, who kept the Cubs off the board through eight. The Cubs hit Lowe pretty hard, but everything was right at people. Broxton was throwing gas; he struck out Reed Johnson, a totally overmatched Micah Hoffpauir, and Alfonso Soriano. And usually, when Takashi Saito enters, that's it. But Saito was off last night, and thank the newly-patient Cubs for drawing two walks, Ryan Theriot and Aramis Ramirez, sandwiched around a Derrek Lee flyout. That's only the fourth time in 156 career appearances that Saito has walked two batters in one inning.

Big credit to Kosuke Fukudome for his hustle in beating out an infield grounder to load the bases; Geovany Soto tied the game with a sac fly, and then the Cubs bullpen held on -- Bob Howry, who's getting better, it seems, with each game he throws, pitched an uneventful 10th, setting up the last of the 10th (with half the crowd having left after the 9th, but those of us who remained were just as loud as those you heard at home in the bottom of the 9th).

Jim Edmonds was nowhere to be seen -- not starting against Lowe, nor pinch-hitting in the 10th; we're all happy with the Mike Fontenot double that started the winning rally, but just one day after Lou said this of Edmonds:

"Every time a right-hander has pitched, we've had him in the lineup," Piniella said of Edmonds, whom the Cubs acquired after he was released by San Diego on May 9.

Well, not last night against the RHP Lowe, he didn't start. Lou also said in that article:

"I don't have time limits," Piniella said about Edmonds. "The only problem I have here as a manager is I have a young man named Hoffpauir, and I want to see what he can do, so it creates a little bit of a situation for me as a manager.

"Outside of that, there's no timetable on anything," Piniella said. "[Hoffpauir] has had two good springs for us, and he's hit the ball well. We'd like to have a little clarification also."

As I wrote above, Hoffpauir looked totally lost against Jonathan Broxton. So where does this leave Edmonds? He'll sit tonight, obviously, against LHP Jeff Francis. After that... who knows?

We have seen this Cub team win by scoring buckets of runs; coming back from big deficits; and coming back now two days in a row from 1-0 deficits, late, with timely hitting and plate discipline. Yes, this is the Cubs I'm talking about. It feels diffent. It IS different. The Cubs have the best record in the major leagues this morning, tied once again with the Rays. Onward. And maybe the Cubs should invite ESPN more often. We're showing those East Coast guys that there's exciting baseball played outside of NYC and Boston.

Luis Maza hits into a DP in the first inning (Juan Pierre slides into 2nd)

Z's strikeout of Matt Kemp on a nasty backdoor slider in the 8th

Aramis Ramirez draws the Cubs' second walk of the 9th inning

Bob Howry strikes out James Loney to end the top of the 10th

Celebrate!

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Wow.

If there is a better word than that I’ve yet to learn it.

I mean, how much fun was that?!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

That was intense!! I was watching at home and my leg wouldn’t stop bouncing. I was getting chills listening to how loud the crowd got in the bottom of the 9th and 10th innings. Man, to have been at that game . . .

It was a real pleasure to watch our Cubs control a very good closer last night. We knew that Cubs were a more patient team this year, and boy did they ever prove it in the 9th.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here.

I think I rubbed holes in my jeans I was so wired. I kept moving from my couch to the armrest when we were up because I was just convinced we were doing better when I sat there.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I engage in the same nervous tic behaviors too when I’m watching an intense game. Mainly pacing, like Lou, and wringing my hands.

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same boat...

Right before my wife went to bed, I’d been playing with the dog, making him bark. I suddenly deduced that his barking was throwing Saito off his game.

Pro: It worked – he blew the save!
Con: That inning ended up lasting forever, and my sleepy wife’s pissed at me this morning >8)

P.S. Gareth rocks.

by Shawon O Meter on May 29, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We all have our foibles.

Sitting on the armrest meant precisely nothing, but since I was there during the ninth I had to be there during the tenth. God bless baseball and its superstitious tendencies.

And Gareth does indeed rock.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I second the Gareth Keenan love

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you thinking watching on TV was intense...

You should have been there. :-D

It was AWESOME. It was looking like I was gonna attend my third loss in a row this season, but my friend and I (who was 0-1 herself) kept telling each other “Ninth inning rally. Ninth inning rally. Ninth inning rally.” When we tied it, everyone in my section let out an audible sigh of relief, and when we won the crowd around me went apesh!t. Everyone was hugging each other, jumping around, high-fiving and screaming, and no one wanted to leave after “Go Cubs Go” was over. We just stared at the W flag with dopey grins on our faces.

Last night’s win felt sweeter than the 12-3 Cards blowout I attended last season – they gave that win to us, practically. But we fought for that win last night, and got it.

I won’t have time to peruse the game thread for this, so I will ask here: I thought Santo was supposed to do the stretch last night—on his hat night and all. Did they opt for Sutcliffe because it was an ESPN game, or was Ron sick or what? Not that I’m complaining, as you can’t go wrong with either. Just curious.

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sut probably because he was there broadcasting

Ron is just fine. He’s scheduled to sing it tonight.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 29, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad that's the reason

and not because Ron was sick. And Sutcliffe is doing well too, right?

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he goes in for surgery in a few weeks, I think

but he looked and sounded pretty good. It was a sweet moment when he sang.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

They showed him in a pregame chat on WGN and he remarked how he was doing better, and how good he felt to read letters from Cubs fans while taking chemo. He then went on to say how happy he was to sing the stretch on a night when he could look and see the Cubs flag flying atop the standings.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

KC Star Sutcliffe Article

Found a REALLY great Sutcliffe article from his hometown newspaper.

Love the Murray/Stone story, as does he, apparently!

http://www.kansascity.com/baseball/story/634747.html

by Shawon O Meter on May 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome, thanks for the input everyone

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I posted this link on Sunday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good first-person account!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 29, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got to see

one heck of a game. Glad it turned out so well for you. We did miss you in here though. :D

by sue369 on May 29, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I missed the thread too!

I figured northsider would share the texts I sent him from the game so I could ‘participate,’ but noooo.

"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team

by bluebythebook on May 29, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shoot I just missed being first. My dream will have to be deferred for a day.

Why did people leave after 9? How silly. At least stay a bit longer.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on May 29, 2008 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That was a very satisfying game.

The pessimist in me groaned when Len announced Fontenot on deck for Howry. Then he drove it to the gap. Then I was in agony with Soriano swinging so hard he appeared to be screwing himself into the batters box. I still can’t believe the Fonz shortened his swing to get the hit. I didn’t believe he was capable. Who knew? I like being proved wrong.

What a win!

by N Oakley on May 29, 2008 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you new to this?

It’s not like Sori is stupid. He doesn’t try for a HR every at-bat…

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is something he rarely does and my expectations of him diminish the more clutch the situation.

by N Oakley on May 29, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You might want to look up

Walk off stats in the past two years… ;)

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I must admit

I was expecting feast or famine from Sori last night, and was surprised when he dinked a single into left. I guess he did the same in a walk-off last year, maybe against the Rockies (?), but I just haven’t seen him shorten up often. Maybe his success in winning games like this will make him more likely to do so in close game situations in the future. I know we’re paying him to hit for power, but driving in one or two runs in a bases loaded situation isn’t bad when compared to the prospect of striking out while swinging for the fences…

by 26.2cubsfan on May 29, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes... it was vs the Rockies... Oh what a night that was!

We were up by 5 or 6th in the top of the 9th… the flood gates opened when Lou tried to get in some work for someone who’d been struggling. Was it Eyre? Then, Howry came in and gave up either the tying or go ahead run. A fan ran onto the field, charged the mound, and got trucked by security.

Then, in the bottom of the 9th… I think it all happened with 2 outs. And Soriano was 0-5 up to that point. It was absolutely unreal. I’ve never gone from gloom and doom to completely ecstatic in such a short time span in my entire life. One of the best games I’ve ever been to in my entire life. Still have that ticket on my desk.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That fan was lucky. Howry woulda planted him but good.

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love the pics as always.

Thanks so much!!

by Madison Cub Fan on May 29, 2008 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN's head executives are patting themselves on the back this morning.

What a game!

This team is amazing at finding ways to win. I’m not used to it, man.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

None of us are.

“Amazing” isn’t too strong a word. This is shaping up to be a special season. Savor every moment.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still made me vomit

Every time Beerman mentioned “is this the year? I’m not sayin I’m just sayin…”

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think your right Al...

...the club is showing a level of confidence that I haven’t seen since the 03 lates season run. What is especially pleasing, is the offense’s ability to milk key walks in tight games, when in years past those same players would have tried to do too much and swing at bad pitches.

If the pitching holds up well, it could be a real interesting trade deadline, because I think Hendry will be in a mood to really go for it, and try to put the club in a real good position for the last 2 months and playoffs.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 29, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This IS a special season, AL

This is a special team. Uh huh, i said TEAM. Unusual for the Cubbies. I have to disagree with you on one thing, You said Hoffpauir was overmatched by Broxton. EVERYONE was overmatched by Broxton. Think the Dodgers will have a fire sale? Man, he is a monster, physically and stuff wise. We were lucky they took him out….

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did well last night.

Very well, in fact. But two nights ago he allowed all three Cubs runs. Granted, he was handed a mess to deal with in the seventh, but if he was as sharp then as he was last night we go into the eighth still down one.

But I agree. I was thankful he wasn’t pitching the ninth.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The interesting stat

with him that Len mention was that he is holding right handed batters to a sub .200 BA, but lefties are hitting over .300 against him.

He does still have filthy stuff. Except for the 3-2 slider he hung to Aramis two nights ago :).

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right on with Broxton!

And I agree with the speacial season/team/whatever. That’s why I posted yesterday I am tired of all the talk on Edmonds-Pie-trades-whatever. This is a season to enjoy.

For Al who said “Remind me again why the Cubs need another starting pitcher? ” We may find out tonight with Marquis. Gallagher may be OK but I’m just not set on Marquis. We’ll wait and enjoy more games. ISN’T THIS WINNING THING FUN?

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on May 29, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wish I could comment,

but ESPN2 cut away from the game for practically the entire half inning to see if Manny was gonna hit a homer. So when I got to watch my recording later, I missed it.

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think ESPN...

...will be back more than they expected this year after this series.

Clue me in here, does ESPN usually stay for a whole series like they did this week? I can’t recall seeing that before.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 29, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I think that's a first.

But I doubt it’ll be a last.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They do with BOSOX and NYY but the Yanks are sinking

Cubs are good drama right now and the Cards are keeping in touch for four series in August-September.

As for the Edmonds experiment I think Lou has determined that Edmonds is to be retired, his bat is slow. Hoffpauir will be experimented in RF and see if he can hit MLB pitching.

I wonder with all the experiments with Soriano, Theriot, Cedeno, DOME, why not try Fonty in CF. He has the speed, can he actually ably man the position and be a bat in the lineup with his toy cannon power.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on May 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fast =/= small

Fonty has never struck me as particularly fast. Checking stats he has 6 stolen bases and 4 caught in his Cub career.

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Technically, Fukudome didn't beat out the throw...

I’ll give Fukudome credit for hustling and making Saito rush, but Fukudome would have been out by a step had Saito not completely missed the bag. It was a big break for the Cubs, and obviously a key to plating the tying run.

That was a frustrating first eight innings, but the 9th and 10th were fantastic!

Good job by Zambrano limiting the Dodgers to only one run despite not having his best command.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Baseball Gods.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're sure

wearing their Cubbie blue this morning.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Z was wheeling and dealing...

I think he lost it a bit that inning, because he wasn’t gatting any damn calls on the corner! And, we all know what happens when Z get pissed…

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

...and Fukudome’s hustle is a good example of what putting pressure on the defense does. If he isn’t going full blast out of the box, Saito wouldn’t have been as flustered and he probably hits the bag.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 29, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+2

Good things can happen for you… when you hustle. A certain someone on this team should take note of that.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matt Sinatro?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lester Strode?

He’s been doggin’ out to the bullpen mound with his clipboard.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree....

Strode has looked a bit lazy when lifting that clipboard….

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Best game of the season...

What was even better was the two saber-magician geeks sitting a row down from us who were lamenting Zambrano’s pitch count and were screaming “take him out Dusty, take him out Dusty!!” They actually were tracking his pitch count throughout the game. Idiots. But alas, I’m sure we are about to read multiple diatribes on how Piniella is destroying Zambrano.

"It is never too early to start beefing up your obituary."

by MDBNIU on May 29, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wrigley tracks pitch counts, too.

And yes, 130 is a tad worrisome.

But…we won. And that’s the bloody bottom line.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, it's not a tad worrisome

Carlos Zambrano is a horse, and sometimes you need to ride the horse hard. 130 pitches five games in a row would be a tad worrisome. A 130 pitches in a 1-0 ballgame against a quality opponent? No. Not when talking about your ace and a physical monster.

"It is never too early to start beefing up your obituary."

by MDBNIU on May 29, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SORI-ANO!

clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

SORI-ANO!

clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

How’s the crow taste?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

(for the number of GW RBIs the man had last night)

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 29, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LSA.

Call me a BCB obsessive, but one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind after Soriano hit that walk-off single was, “And MDB[lueMike]NIU was there to see it!”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too!!!! And then there was the catch....was that you, mbdniu?

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Regardless

you don’t want your ace to throw 130 pitches if it can be avoided. That being said, if anyone can do it without problems occurring, it’s Z.

As for Hoffpauir Al, and I am not trying to open up another discussion however, he did look overmatched however, so did Johnson and Soriano. That dude was unhittable last night. Like a Farnsworth with poise and control.

CUBBIES!!!!!

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on May 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From dictionary.com

tad: a very small amount or degree

So, yes, 130 pitches for your ace is a TAD worrisome.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW

Z’s next start is in spacious Petco park against a team that has the rare combination of lack-of-speed and lack-of-power. I don’t take anything for granted, but Lou knowing that Z can go at the Padres and challenge them early and often may have had something to do with his decision.

by gocubsgo22 on May 29, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it is a trend

then it is worrisome. One game won’t kill him but if he starts throwing 120 or more pitches a game then fatigue sets in and that can lead to injuries. Z is a horse but even horses break down.

Better safe than sorry.

by bubbamike the one and only on May 29, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's unlikely.

Lou usually reigns his pitches in, but if you look at the game, you see that Carlos was actually getting BETTER over the course of the game. So, keeping him in saved the pen and meant that if it were a loss, Lou wasn’t blowing arms for it. Z may be the only 100+ pitch guy in the rotation, but he is that guy.

I’ll be surprised if there’s more than two or three games like this.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't Worry

130 pitches is a little high for a pitch count for a single game. This will only be a problem, if Big Z consistently goes over the 120 pitch mark. Big Z really battled on Wednesday night.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on May 29, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't worry either...

...and I’ll bet they take him out at about 100 pitches his next start.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 29, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry, I thought I heard you say something like

Wow, Soriano sure came through in the clutch to WIN THE GAME.

Or perhaps you had left in the ninth?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You do realize that...

...Lou Piniella was tracking Zambrano’s pitch count, too, right? Does that make him a “saber-magician geek”?

I’ll admit I was a little freaked out when I heard Pat and Ron mention that Big Z had thrown that many pitches. He seemed fine in the post-game press conference, but I’m still not crazy about the move. I’m glad Lou at least seems aware that he pushed Big Z so far and will take steps to limit him in his next outing or so.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're forgetting

that Blue Mike only plays the “Lou knows best” card when it benefits his case.

I don’t like Z tossing 130, but I doubt Lou makes a practice of it, and it gave the bullpen a nice rest, which makes me much less worried about it.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's called selective reasoning.

And some people just excel at that.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

130 should not be a problem

it was a cool night, Z was hydrated and not cramping, etc. Last night was a good night to let your starter eat some innings to save the bullpen. It’s obvious that Lou is trying to win at all costs, but this one outing shouldn’t hurt Z at all. Even though his control was off all night, he battled and made the pitches when he needed to.

Braxton scared the shit out me. I was so happy when he wasn’t out there in the 9th. He was bringing the heat for sure. Our patience in the 9th against Saito speaks volumes about this 2008 Cubs team. Thats how championship teams eke out victories when faced with a dominant starting pitcher.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 29, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But alas? But alas??? You really said that, Shakespere?

But, you are right, Pinella WAS right in keeping him in. However….
Say, how bout that catch with the glove in the face? Musta been someone else in LF, probably a disguised Jim Edmonds…I mean with the wall, the fan and everything….
And that guess-hitting hack made us go early. Damn, I was wanting 18 innings…
So, all in all mdbniu, a bad night all around….

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Found this blog post this morning

Talking about how the whole “over use” thing may be carried to far in some circumstances, especially with veteran pitchers.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=879

I think I agree with his general argument. The battle over protecting young arms has basically been won. But that gets carried to far when managers take out veterans who are well into their careers and can handle that kind of use.

Also interesting was the discussion of Dusty’s use of his young pitchers in a extra inning game.

by Dome is my home-ay on May 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

kidding?

Lou definitely had a laughing exchange with Bowa as he walked back to the dugout after the conference. I’m not so sure he was kidding! :)

by rgonzale on May 29, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Whatever he said...

They were both laughing hard after he said it, so I believe that is what he said.

by gocubsgo22 on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al put what he said in his recap

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Observation...umpires are getting REAL chippy

I don’t know what is happening around baseball to prompt it, but all I know is that umpires across the league have a bug up their ass right now. The strike zones of too many umpires have been all over the map. Are they pissed off about something that I don’t know about? Are they angry about the talk of instituting instant replay?

It’s not just the Cub games either. I watched a Sox game on the tube the other night and the umpire crew were complete a-holes to both Cleveland and the Sox.

"It is never too early to start beefing up your obituary."

by MDBNIU on May 29, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think they're feeling pressure because of the replay issue

MLB umpires are notorious for getting their backs up when people start talking about changes that could take away some of their authority.

It also seems like it’s the older guys who are doing the most posturing but maybe that’s just the games I’m seeing.

by AlabamaCubFan on May 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quit deflecting your real thoughts with these

You know you were rooting against Soriano in the 10th. Admit it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rooting agaist Soriano?

Nope not me. Do I think he should be hitting lead off? No I don’t.

I don’t root against Cubs.

by AlabamaCubFan on May 29, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I beleive you

My thoughts were for the gentleman above you

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahhhh

Sorry.

by AlabamaCubFan on May 29, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey

how about that game-winning hit by Soriano!

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see the pitcher pitch when the Braves McCann was not in the box

I saw that on ESPN this morning

by brownbuddha on May 29, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCann

was being an ass, bitching balls and strikes, then he was being a bigger ass for not getting in the box when the ump told him twice.

Hes just not as good as GlenAllen Hill was.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

mdbniu, unless you have been asleep for about 10 years

the umps have been aggressive and had a stick up their a$$ for a long time…..it is nothing new.

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was one of the worst strike zones I'v ever seen last night

But Z still had a hell of an outing… regardless of the fact that he couldn’t get a called strike on those corners he was painting all night. Heck, he couldn’t get one of those called when Pierre actually “checked” his swing on it. Pierre gave the ump two reasons to call strike 3, and still… nothing. It was terrible.

On a side note. Z threw 130 pitches last night… the second highest total of his career (136 in May ‘05 vs the Phils). He followed up that outing by only lasting 3.1 innings on 64 pitched in his next start… a 4-3 loss to Washington.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It might not hurt...

... if the Cubs gave Jon Lieber a spot start next week, pushed everyone’s start back a day. Z could use the extra day and so could everyone else.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

Also interesting how Lou avoids Scott Eyre.

Jose Ascanio has deeply impressed me. His stuff is electric and he has a rubber arm. I think he has passed Michael Wuertz on the bullpen pecking order right now.

"It is never too early to start beefing up your obituary."

by MDBNIU on May 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rubber arm?

ha, where do you get this crap? I guess seeing a guy 4 or 5 times tells you he has a rubber arm.

SORIANO clap clap clap

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hammer...

isn’t it….. clap clap, clap clap clap?

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on May 29, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im tired

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keep hustling man

Or you’ll end up in the dog house with Sinato and Strode

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on May 29, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, MDBNIU saying that Ascanio has a rubber arm...

...could be the kiss of death for Jose. Remember, David Aardsma supposedly had ice water in his veins.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's up with Stevie

Lou did this to him last year, although last year was slightly more deserved. Last Eyre didn’t start pitching well until very late in the year. Lou needs to get him out there a little more often to sharpen him up.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, please someone tell me

why Stevie Eyre hasn’t even had a chance lately. He’s like the resident warmer-upper.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And, IIRC

our only lefty in the bullpen

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes... wouldn't be a bad idea

Especially since there aren’t any days off between his next start… and they fly out west. They’ll get the low scoring Padres first, so that’s a good opportunity to throw Lieber in there…

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't bad

Just incredibly tight. REALLY REALLY tight.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Worst?

Was this your first game. He was good and consistent. Consistently small but consistent.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was such an incredible game, plus game thread made it just that much more fun

Blue mike making an appearance after that hack did something good?

oh wait he had someone to rip on so he could avoid talking about that hack.

by Madison Cub Fan on May 29, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's not

Today is about the Cubbies.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LSA

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Que?

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It means

“Loud, Sustained Applause.”

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh sorry

I’m still a bit newbie here sometimes :o

I knew it was a good thing, just didn’t know what…

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No need to apologize.

You’re doing good for a FNG. ;-)

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was at the game

Gave the hack a standing ovation for his bloop to left field too. It was his best at bat of the year. He actually shortened up his swing for the good of the team. He never does that.

"It is never too early to start beefing up your obituary."

by MDBNIU on May 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're incorrigible.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Double-plus goodspeak

MDBNIU has always supported Soriano.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

Worst game winning hit call EVER on Chris Beerman’s part. Horrible.

And it made ESPN’s #1 play of the day ROFL

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think his own network agrees.

They’ve only played Santo’s and Kasper’s calls this morning on AM 1000.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again, they made his call the #1 play....

So not total agreement…

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On TV or the radio?

I haven’t heard it on the radio so far.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just saw it on TV.

So I guess this morning’s Sportcenter?

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah.

That’s unfortunate. The radio side is playing Santo and Kasper’s calls, but not Berman’s.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately

I didn’t think Len’s call was very good as well. He was so worried it was going to be foul that he sort of messed it up. But those are ten times harder than HR calls.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah,

Santo’s was a bit delayed, but it was a fan’s reaction. It’s times like that when I like having Ron in the booth.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what a game!!

anyone else get those little chill bumps in the 10th inning last night? to hoffpauer’s credit theres not many players if any who were gonna hit broxton last night. 99 mph rising fast balls and mixing in sliders and changeups in the low 80’s is plain filth. when a guy like him is on(marmol) they will win any or most matchups. during the commercial i turned to my wife and said reeds leading off and lou has edmonds in the tunnel whispering in his ear some colorful words including this is your time—i need this W. when fontenot was announced I about fell out of my chair. I gotta believe edmonds days are just about over.

soriano seemed to be trying to drive the ball into right field a time or two last night. one of those team carrying streaks coming? i think so.

It might beeeeee!! It could beeeeeee!! It issssss!! Homerun!! Holyyyyyyy Cow!!!

by cubsluver22 on May 29, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He and Lee both seemed to be trying to go the other way

A couple times. If they start driving the ball the other way, this offense is going to be just fearsome.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Going to be?

;)

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

It’s hard to believe that there are still some guys who are yet to get really hot in this offense.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you think about it

Who is really that hot? ARam and maybe…

I got nothing.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rammy, for sure. Derosa's been quietly hot, as well.

But it’s just been a pretty consistent attack thus far, almost a different guy each night.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Soto got a critical hit last night too.

As did Dome. I’ll take five guys hitting 95% over one or two hitting 110%...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know it.

And that’s what you call a team.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Broxton

Overmatched all of the hitters he faced last night. He was scary. I was really excited to see him leave at the end of 8

by gocubsgo22 on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was with a group out in the RF corner and we got loud....

I was there the past two nights and they are definitely two of the better Cubs games I have been to over the years.

The great thing right now is that especially when they are at home I almost expect them to win. They are playing such good baseball that I don’t worry if they are down late. I believe that someone will find a way to get the job done.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on May 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NO ONE wants to come to Wrigley right now.

Hitters park or not. And I’m loving it.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the Friendly Confines

if, and only if, we don’t sweep you.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is the same feeling I had in 1969

it was a magical season, knowing in your heart the Cubs were going to win every game at home. It’s still not even June yet, I am so pumped about this year!!!

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 29, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was lucky enough to sit behind home plate last night..

...and Lowe, Broxton and Ascaino were just filthy….especially Broxton. Z didnt have his best stuff, which shows how great of a pitcher he is.

Who would have ever guessed that little Fonty would not only get the only extra base hit of the game, but against one of the best relievers in baseball? I guess

What a game!

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 29, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't call Chan Ho Park one of the best relievers in basebal...

That’s the pitcher off of whom Fontenot got the 2B. But other than that, yes, very surprising that the only extra base hit was provided by Fontenot in the 10th inning. Great win.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow...i guess blurred the 9th and 10th in my excitment

..what a marroon I am!

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was right behind home plate also

I get (luckily) those seats about 15 games a year. I know I sound like a broken record, but Broxton’s performance was unbelievable.

by gocubsgo22 on May 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sneaky power

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dome and Saito

They are actually very close friends and they had dinner together, but they had finally faced off first time in 2 and half years in that critical situation…
They will surely have dinner together again when Cubs traveled to west coast next month, but the battle would be much tougher…

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It seems like Dome

was a pretty popular and well-respected guy among the other players in Japan. Was there anyone he really had problems with, or maybe just a particular pitcher with whom he had an intense rivalry?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nobody particular

comes to my mind for that kind of pitcher for Dome, but Koji Uehara, the ace of arch rival Tokyo Giants, has always good rivalry against any power hitters. Dome hit a monster homerun against Uehara in 2004 and that was very memorable one.

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

That was a shot. I can see how Uehara would be tough on a hitter. He really hides the ball well in his motion. I’m still amazed by how quickly Dome gets his bat through the zone.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Koji Uehara

recently declared he will be in MLB as free agent next year. So they may face off again although I don’t know which team will acquire him… BTW Uehara having tough time right now as he was beaten 4 games in a row and in farm, and this situation will lower his market price for sure.

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How old is he?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is 33

born 4/3/1975

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That will likely lower his price, as well.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Japan: gotta love those graphics!

And… wow… what a monster shot.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to see that kind of monster shot

at Wrigley…

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm content

for him to wait.

To, oh, I don’t know, October for that kind of magic.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quite a home run

is there any reason why Dome was holding the bat lower in his stance than he does now?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He put it higher

to shorten his slumping time in the season in 2006 spring training, as far as I know…

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on May 29, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How far was that?

Holy cow, that ball would be on Sheffield!

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it's just wishful thinking...

...but does anyone else think the crowd’s “FUKUDOME!” chant got inside Saito’s head a little bit last night? He didn’t seem all that comfortable on the mound to begin with, but maybe it pushed him a little farther outside his comfort zone.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You could be right. I remember that the crowd was electric with the chant

And I was hoping it wouldn’t pump too much adrenalin into Dome’s AB. But Dome seems pretty level-headed. Saito had to hear that chant, and if he wasn’t completely zoned in, could have had an effect on his comfort zone..

by zevkalman on May 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's about the loudest I've heard it

unless WGN was amping it.

by santo4hof on May 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I don’t ever remember hearing a crowd that much on TV

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 29, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No I don't think they had it amped b/c it was loud on radio also

by Madison Cub Fan on May 29, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

FYI

One year ago today, excuse me, 162 regular season games ago-—The Cubs were 22-31. They are now 32-11 which is 10 games better. I was planning on writing a big diary on this—-but I have NO ENERGY.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

32-21.

Still, you’re right. 10 games better.

We’ll take 10 games better at the end of the season, right? That’d be 95 wins.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoops----Ill take 32-11 next year

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ooooh.

If I was a cartoon character my eyes would’ve just been replaced with 95s.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And KOW

pointed out in the game thread that in their last 162 games, the Cubs are 95-67.. I have not double checked the math.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 29, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really putting it together

It really seems like this team has learned to use Wrigley Field as the weapon it can be.

Patience at the plate, good defense, solid pitching and taking the home runs where they come are the signs of a winning team at Wrigley.

They also seem to really enjoy playing together. I think that’s what make players like Reed Johnson and Fontenot more important than their stats may show. Remember Dave Roberts was the catalyst for the Red Sox run in 2004. I’ve always thought that team chemistry was as vital a part of a winning team as hitting and pitching.

This team reminds me so much of the ‘84 team. They just showed up and knew they were going to win and if they didn’t, oh well they would tomorrow.

Fun times on the Northside for sure.

by AlabamaCubFan on May 29, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Last night

The way this team wins reminds me so much of the 1989 team, which so often manufactured victory out of what looked to be certain defeat. Remember the game when pitcher Les Lancaster had the game-winning hit in extra innings? This game last night reminded me of that.

About Z’s pitch count: I’d expect him to be not so great his next start and think an extra day of rest is a good idea. Still, 130 pitches is 37 fewer than 22-year old Greg Maddux threw in an 10.2-inning start he made in 1988.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on May 29, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN 1000

reporting that Doug Collins has been hired as the Bulls head coach.

/slaps hand to forehead. Snorts in disgust.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Eww.

And I’m not even a Bulls fan.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good

I like Doug Collins and he is a Redbird, double whammy. I thought he was cemented with his gig at TNT, I know I wouldn’t leave there. Less stress, great schedule and great money I’m guessing.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did coach the team to two Eastern Conference Finals...

Losing only to the eventual NBA champ in six and seven games respectively. I felt like he got scapegoated for the team not getting over the hump, when it was more likely that the team just needed time for Grant and Pippen to reach maturity.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but he doesn't get Michael Jordan this time around.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And your point is?

It’s not like there were a lot of great options out there. Avery Johnson doesn’t get to have a team as talented as the Mavs, and nobody else has any sort of pedigree.

There wasn’t an option that had me remotely excited. Hopefully Collins can do good things with the team.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG. Puke.

They’ve been looking for a coach since X-Mas… and that’s all they can come up with? Seriously. You suck Pax.

Meanwhile, Avery Johnson is just sitting there.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The SCORE saying that this is a Reinsdorf move...

Not a Pax signing.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which makes it even stupider.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They could've put a bunch of ex-Bulls names in a hat

And come up with a better hire…

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on May 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dennis Rodman?

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ex Players

Paxson said they were going to Interview 4 people and I know that 3 were ex players and one was an assist coach, Tyron Cobin was one

by brownbuddha on May 29, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dennis Rodman

In case anyone was wondering what not getting enough attention as a kid looks like…

by MN exile on May 29, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only the Bulls could screw up a gift of the #1 pick in the draft

...by hiring a washed up analyst who has never succeeded as a coach.

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on May 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never succeeded as a coach?

Really? So you have to win the Championship to be a successful coach? And which one of those guys is waiting to be hired by us?

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd have to slightly disagree.

Pax has gone on record saying Collins has one of the best “basketball minds in the business” and has said that he’s been a mentor to him for quite some time now. And that any time would be lucky to have him.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And apparently...

Paxson had recommended Collins as a mentor for Cartwright when Cartwright was a coach, according to the Tribune.

That’s not to say that Reinsdorf wasn’t partly (or fully) behind the move. But it does at least sound like Paxson wasn’t against it.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cartwright wasn't a very good coach.

Case closed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Collins didn't mentor him...

so I’m not sure I see the connection.

Paxson RECOMMENDED Collins. Collins turned down the job.

by SouthernCub on May 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh.

Now I get it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like it.

Did they even interview anyone else?

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on May 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last night...

makes me even more excited to go to the game tonight. I really feel like Z has turned the corner as a number 1 started this season, he is finally becoming what we hoped he would. I think it even started with his well pitched game in the playoffs last year. The $91 million is looking like a good deal as of now.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great win last night...

started watching on WGN, but switched to ESPN (because I like Sutcliffe and wanted to hear what he had to say), then switched back to WGN for superstitious purposes ;) One thing is that thank you ESPN for not having Joe Morgan announce last night…

Bowa did get a chuckle out of what ever Lou said last night.

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on May 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN

was blacked out by me last night but not on Tuesday. I really don’t understand or care how they determine what is blacked out but it is always changing.

I do like how ESPN shows BA with the different counts on the top of the screen, very interesting.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I like that too...

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on May 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I dont like how they kept the ticker going along the bottom of the screen on ESPN2

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good thing some did the murray sweep thing

completely forgot about it!

2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?

by Chanman25 on May 29, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the long cold road ahead

I was there and it was thrilling but this roller coaster of coming home and kicking ass then going on the road and stinking up whatever joint they happen to be playing in has to stop. This team is obviously very very hard to beat at home. And they have the best record in baseball because they’ve played a schedule that is loaded with home games early. But they’ve got to learn to at least go .500 on the road or we face a slide when they play so many road games in the second half of the season.

Oh, and Al, they could use another starting pitcher because some of the ones they have either aren’t proven or have proven not to be good for an entire season.

by the nth on May 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who should they get?

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on May 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, please name names.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He won't.

Talking head.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He can't

He doesn’t want to get blacklisted from Hop Sing’s…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 29, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

classic

"Anytime I want to throw 95 or 96 (m.p.h.), I can throw it. But it's not how hard you throw in the big leagues. It's how you locate your pitches and learn to pitch the game." - If Zambrano has truly figured out how to pitch, look out.

by kylejo on May 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How else would an unproven starting pitcher

become a proven starting pitcher than by starting? If you bring someone in to take his slot, how can he prove himself?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Precisely...which brings us back to Felix Pie...

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you think neither

Dempster, Marquis nor Gallagher will tail off in the last two-thirds of the season, then by all means, stand pat. Rich Hill can always be released from his straight jacket and pointed northeast.

by the nth on May 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marquis

has nothing to tail off into. He’s already tail.

I think Ryan Dempster is going to surprise a lot of people. Same with Easy-Gas.

No one’s suggesting that there be no trades. It’s MAY. (Boy, it’s not going to have the same ring on Monday when we have to say “It’s only June.”)

Let’s see what’s there at the deadline.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Waitaminute, did I miss a memo?

Who is “Easy-Gas”?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I missed that one too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gallagher

Brenley called him that his last start—“Lou likes his speed, it’s easy gas.” I decided that’s a good nickname, so I’m trying to get it to catch on.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hm, I dunno...

...”Easy Gas” sounds a little too much like a brand of antacid tablets to me. I thought we were going with “Sledgehammer.”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nothing screams "hammer" to me about him, that's all.

it’s good to have options.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easy gas

it what I produce after a monster burro… ;)

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha

ewwww, but hahahaha

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 29, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Need we remind you

that one cannot appoint their own phrases to the BCB dictionary. Only another may do that.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't put it in the dictionary.

Brenley said it. I’m just pushing it. :D

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, a pusher.

Harmless.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Easy Gas Gallagher"

it’s a very old-school kind of nickname. I like it.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure - it's a cool nickname now 'cause he's doing well

but once he slips up a few times and throw a bad game or two, I shudder to think of what kind images SWL is going to come up with to mock “Easy Gas”...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 29, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

well, we know how to have our fun either way…

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it catches on

I think “E.G.” makes for cool abbreviated version; a nick-nickname, as it were.

“Sledgehammer” is a cool nickname too, and I know it related to the name “Gallagher”, but it would seem more appropriate for a power pitcher. I haven’t see Sean get to many Ks or be completely dominant yet.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lots of key on my keyboard

don’t work apparently, including the “preview” key.

"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome

by JohnM on May 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Remind me again why the Cubs need another starting pitcher?”

Probably because, if they make the playoffs, they won’t be facing a Dodgers team that’s missing Andruw Jones, Nomar, Furcal, and Kent.

by salparadise23 on May 29, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What a great argument.

Come on. ROFL

How’d they do facing the DBacks with the awful rotation?

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know last year they did great, didn’t they?

by salparadise23 on May 29, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last year?

Really? You’re gonna go there?

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on May 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

forget last year

last year is over. THIS year is NOW.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That wasnt this pitching staff.

Demps has been a great starter and Wood is closing now.

Plus, in the playoffs you use 3 starters. Z, Demps, and Lilly. What’s the point of getting another starter for the playoffs? Who are you kicking out of the rotation? Makes no sense.

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on May 29, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Cubbie occurrences"

Anyone else especially excited to see the team rebound from some morally devastating moments? I mean, as Cubs fans, we’re alway waiting for the wheels to come off, the next fan to get in the way of a catch or the next ball to roll through the first baseman’s glove. It was great to see them bounce back in the 9th after the errors/near disaster in the 8th. I was hoping they’d do the same thing last week after Fonze’s drop in Pittsburgh but of course that didn’t work out. These are the Cubs. Something bad might happen at a crucial point of a crucial game in the fall. I just hope they can rebound like pros instead of throwing tantrums (Alou) that affect the rest of the team.
Anyone else see Soriano glare at a fan after catching that foul ball on the run near the Bartman spot late in the game? Please people, keep your hands inside the wall. Pretend it’s a roller coaster. And if you’re sitting near someone who can’t help the reaching, heckle him mercilessly and remind him of 2003.

by goldglove on May 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

With all due respect

to that KID who reached over, even that kid knew Soriano wouldnt have caught it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

?

Soriano DID catch it

by Shanghai Badger on May 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well my point is Soriano normally

would pull up on that one. And lets not blame a kid that was probably 5 years old in 2003.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah. got it.

by Shanghai Badger on May 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ill admit thought

Despite watching the WHOLE GAME, i did forget he caught it.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs should get

Someone with more experience than Gallagher and a better track record as a starter than Dempster or Marquis. If this superman exists, I would try to go get him when things shake out a little more clearly standings-wise.

Hey, maybe Dempster will have a year like Mike Bilecki (sp?) did in ‘89 and Gallagher will just keep getting better and better. I sure hope so. But I certainly wouldn’t scoff at anyone who says the Cubs could use more starting pitching. There’s not a team in baseball that couldn’t use more starting pitching.

by the nth on May 29, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Again,

Gallagher’s not going to develop into a “proven” starter by not starting. The Cubs have plenty of options already in house if he or anyone else breaks down, to wit:

Hill
Marshall
Lieber
Hart

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also again.

Gallagher may be great all year. Marquis may defy history and pitch lights-out in October. Dempster may win 23 games. But what are the odds that all three of these things happen? And who, besides Hill, do you see on the horizon to step in when one, two or all three of these guys have trouble or are injured? I’m just saying Al shouldn’t be poo-pooing the notion that the Cubs might want more pitching.

by the nth on May 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe Hill, Marshall, Lieber and Hart were just mentioned

in the post you replied to, nth..

by crazymountain on May 29, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHO?????

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who?

Like I said above, let the standings shake out in the next month and see who’s available. I’m not saying they need to get a Rick Suttcliffe. I’m just saying the idea of more starting pitching isn’t a dumb one.

by the nth on May 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok

then bring this up in a month, then.

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And again, you really shouldn't post comments like this...

...unless you’re willing to name names. The Cubs SHOULD go out and put proven All-Stars at all eight positions and on the mound. It’s just not possible.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs