Open Thread: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Saturday 5/3, 2:45 CT
by Al
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Chicago Cubs @ St. Louis Cardinals
The magic Fox wizard has deigned to make the Cubs/Cardinals game the primary game this afternoon, even though there's a game involving a team from New York (the Mets/Diamondbacks game) as one of the other choices. Someone's probably going to get fired at Fox over that. However, 65% of the USA will see the Cub game -- last year, I posted the list of cities, since it was usually short, but this list is too long. You can check to see if the game's on in your market by clicking on this link.
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Kyle Lohse, if you don't recall the trade, was once a Cub farmhand. He went to the Twins in the Rick Aguilera deal on May 21, 1999 -- as a throw-in. The guy Minnesota wanted was Jason Ryan, at the time a top pitching prospect. Aguilera didn't do much for the Cubs and Ryan washed out after 24 major league appearances. But Lohse, the throw-in, has started over 200 major league games (despite a 4.72 career ERA). The Cubs also got Scott Downs in the deal; he eventually went to the Expos for Rondell White. He has faced the Cubs four times in his career and is 1-1, 3.89. We keep waiting for Alfonso Soriano to hit; Lohse is someone he has hit well (12-for-28, .429/.429/.714). Mark DeRosa is 6-for-13 against Lohse, and Lohse has never retired Aramis Ramirez (5-for-5, 2 doubles, a HR).
Ted Lilly got off to a rough start but has thrown well in each of his last two starts. It's almost imperative that he go 7 innings today, as the bullpen is showing dangerous signs of overwork. Lilly is 3-2, 2.93 lifetime vs. the Cardinals and has a 2.08 career ERA in St. Louis.
Since today's game is on Fox, clicking on the MLB.com Mediacenter link won't get you to the Cub telecast. I post it for informational purposes anyway. (And yes, the posted starting time is 2:45 CT; for some reason the early-season Fox games are at 2:45, but later they're moved back to 2:55.)
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's overflow comment thread will post at 4:15 CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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damn too bad ARam probably wont be in the lineup today
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on
May 3, 2008 11:53 AM CDT
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Why?
He seemed OK. I think he was just taken out as a precaution.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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He won't play today.
Adding to the Cubs’ troubles, Aramis Ramirez was hit by a pitch in the left wrist and left the game later on. X-rays on the wrist proved negative, but Ramirez said the swelling is so severe that he doubted he’d be able to play on Saturday.
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 12:09 PM CDT
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It says "doubted".
And, I missed that. Thanks. Maybe he can play by tomorrow night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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RamÃrez's wrist is still swollen.
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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Soooooo...
DeRosa @ 3rd today?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
May 3, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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Just swollen wrist. X-Rays were negative.
n/t
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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Anyone know if this is the same wrist he had issues with last year?
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
May 3, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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It's probably the primary game
because of Joe Buck’s previous ties to the Cardinals, and the long-standing rivalry between the Cubs and the Cards.
by false cognate on
May 3, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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I doubt Fox cares about Buck's previous ties...
... and I’m still surprised Fox isn’t foisting the Mets on most of the country.
But that’s good news for Cubs fans, as that gives pretty good odds the game will be on in most regions, except areas around New York, Phoenix, Baltimore and Los Angeles (the third game is Orioles/Angels).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 12:21 PM CDT
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I think it's because the Cubs and Cardinals are playing for 1st place in the same division.
n/t
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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Amazing, if true...
... that Fox would actually do that. Remember, Arizona has the best record in baseball.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Yes, but the Cubs and Cards have more fans combined across the country than the Diamondbacks.
That equals better ratings. Plus Fox will show the NY-Arizona game in those teams markets, anyway. So, it’s a win-win situation for them, if we look at it this way.
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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Point taken.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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and denver
we’re stuck with the d-backs here. at least there’s always pat and ron…..
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
by anormal on
May 3, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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BTW,
Readers can watch the game through MLB.TV’s Mediacenter if they do not live in the 50 United States, Washington D.C., Guam, the U.S.V.I., Canada, South Korea or Japan.
In another related matter, I’m glad that MLB.TV eliminated the blackout for those games starting around 1:00 P.M. They need to do the same on EI.
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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I'm worried about Rami
Wrist xrays are not conclusive. Too many small bones in the wrist that fractures are hard to pick up. If Rami goes on the DL, does that leave DeRosa as our 3rd baseman?
by coral on
May 3, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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That said, I don't think it's likely.
There’s some swelling, but for the time being, I’d go ahead and have some cautious faith in the x-ray results.
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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Quick poll:
Who here thinks that, if Ramirez sits, Cedeno plays? Who thinks Fontenot plays?
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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I wish it were Cedeno,
but iFontenot
3B—Derosa
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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No idea why that happened!
Anyhoo, here’s my take:
I hope we see Cedeno, but here’s what we’ll probably see:
SS—Scraptastic Mustasche Man
2B—Fontenot
3B—Derosa
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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Cedeno
he better be playing over Fontenot. Lou was saying the other day he needs to find away to get him in the line-up. I can understand not playing over Theriot with him hitting so well, but there’s no reason why Fontenot should start over him.
by cubsfan25 on
May 3, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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Other than the fact
that Lou seems obsessed with getting LH bats in the lineup.
I agree with you, though. Ronny should play over Fonty.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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And lefties are hitting much better so far this season...
...versus Lohse than righties. Lou puts more stock into these kinds of things than I do.
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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Lohse is quite hittable
Nice guy (did a PSA with him a few years back) but not all that great on the mound. Today, presuming Lilly can get Cardinals out, we ought to be able to bounce back.
And I did see Ramirez moving his hand and fingers last night on the CU after he got hit – I suspect it’s just a nasty contusion and he’ll be OK with some ice and rest.
by MN exile on
May 3, 2008 1:06 PM CDT
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Well, just off the top of my head..
I’d say play the hot bat, over the potential lefty-righty matchup. So, Cedeno would be my bet.
Why do you ask?
by Damen Jackson on
May 3, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Got an hour till game time, and trying to amuse myself...
...why I try and reteach myself geometry, so I thought I’d start a conversation that wasn’t TOO controversial.
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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This Week in Baseball reminder - Cubs feature
IIRC, this week’s This Week in Baseball is going to a have feature on the Cubs. So tune into your local FOX coverage at 2pm Central if you want to check out. TWIB goes for a half hour.
Then at 2:30, make a beer/pizza run, take out the garbage, play with the kids, call your mother, clean the dust out from behind the refrigerator, trim your toenails, start today’s Sudoku puzzle in the paper, walk the dog, throw a load of laundry in, change the kitty litter, catch the eye of your significant other and raise your eyebrows while nodding in the general direction of the bedroom, curse today’s Sudoku puzzle in the paper, sort your recyclables… in short, DO ANYTHING but watch FOX TV for the next 15 minutes – save your eyes and ears from the onslaught of Jeanne Zelasko baseball babble…
Then come back at 2:45 and settle in your comfy chair where you can either watch the start of the game if the 2:45 posted time is right, or worst case – listen to Buck McCarver for ten more minutes until a 2:55 game start time.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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15 minutes.....
you only allot 15 minutes? Record TWIB and watch it during the commercial breaks….your S/O will thank you…..
by coral on
May 3, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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Will today be the day
Ted Lilly gets his velocity back? If Lilly isn’t throwing 3-4 miles per hour faster, he’s going to need to have good control to pitch well today.
by cubsfan25 on
May 3, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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On WGN...
Polish Constituion Day Parade has now started…..
by coral on
May 3, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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The game will also be available nationwide on Fox Sports En Español.
For those who have that channel on their cable or satellite package. The video feed is the same from the Fox network, but with in-studio Spanish-language play-by-play announcers.
by Fraggin Judge on
May 3, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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big game boys
Lilly needs to pitch good again and reclaim his past glory of last year and strike fear in the OPPOSITION!!!
Over time, your quickness with a cocky rejoinder must have gotten you many punches in the face - Al Swearengen
by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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burp
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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Lilly striking fear fear....funny
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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What the hell Lou..
what is your fetish with Fontenot. I know Cedeno isn’t Derek Jeter, but he is alot better than Fontenot… and I could care less about a damn left handed bat, Cedeno is a better option right now.
Linueps
Soriano
Theriot
Lee
Fukudome
DeRosa
Fontenot
Soto
Johnson
Lilly
by Unique on
May 3, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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what the
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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fontenot
are youserious
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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Ccards 6 cubs 3
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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and the Cards...
LF Schumaker
2B Ryan
1B Pujols
RF Ludwick
3B Glaus
CF Ankiel
C Molina
P Lohse
SS Izturis
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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why
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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Because I asked the question earlier...
...if people thought Lou would play Fontenot. I dunno, maybe if I don’t bring it up Lou forgets that Fontenot exists.
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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ha
yeah Cedeno would be nice today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I'd hit Cedeno 2nd today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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Oh, and the best part is...
...he’s benching Pie, too!
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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that is the gest part
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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Pie is bad
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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which kind - Felix or Lemon? ;-)
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by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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trick question!!!!
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Let's presume for the moment that Pie is bad...
...just for the sake of arguement.
Lou is already committing to putting bad players in the lineup just so he can get more left-handed batters into the lineup. In that event, why not play the one who isn’t a a gaping hole on defense?
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May 3, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Because they need offense today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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actually I hear youon this one CW
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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I wouldn't mind seeing Pie getting some hacks today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Felix Pie sucks
It’s a wasted roster spot. I think Sweet Lou is sick and tired about dancing around this issue. Get him out of here. The sooner the better.
by MDBNIU on
May 3, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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And Mike Fontenot
is a sparkling example of a ballplayer, huh?
Read a book.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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Let's not forget that both this season and over the past two seasons
Felix Pie has a higher OPS v. right handed pitchers than Reed Johnson.
Lou’s lost it.
by DGU on
May 3, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Don't like the lineup
Mike Fontenot is too big a liability at 2nd base. He can’t turn the double play and doesn’t go to his right. Why not use this as an opportunity to play Ronny Cedeno? Yet another strange move by Sweet Lou. He’s having a bad week.
by MDBNIU on
May 3, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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I agree
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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Lou is playing the Rightie Lefty thing
too mucch
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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Fontenot is hot though
which is why Lou is going with him
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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I wouldn't hit him 7th though
hellzz no
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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i mean 6th
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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ughhh
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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wanna make 20 posts in a row again?
:-)
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
by Chanman25 on
May 3, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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if you'd shot up!!!
:)
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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Someone needs to ask Lou after the game
if he thought about the fact that Felix Pie hits right-handed pitchers better than Reed Johnson.
by DGU on
May 3, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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Felix Pie is done in a Cub uniform
The organization has given up on him. It’s not something I wish, rather something I firmly believe. Pie will be gone within a month. Perhaps out of the organization completely.
by MDBNIU on
May 3, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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He's a defensive replacement
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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And Reed Johnson can't hit right-handed pitching.
So what solution do you propose?
by cwyers on
May 3, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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What about seeing if Fontenot can play CF?
He’s scrappy. And Cedeno is obviously thriving in a bench role.
by DGU on
May 3, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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Reed Johnson I believe is has a 420 BA of Lohse
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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the note is below.
It’s a 420 OBP and it’s in 7 PA, which means that after today it could easily be .167.
by DGU on
May 3, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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Let's not get into why Pie should play yet CW
I haven’t had a drink yet
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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If this is sarcasm,
and I hope dearly that is, it is delicious.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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I think Hendry will round up the usual suspects...
...and if the Cubs continue to hang around first place, that will probably be good enough (in the minds of Cubs mgmt – not ours).
But if the Cubs falter and Hendry can’t find a viable answer via trade/pickup, then I honestly think Lou will sit down with Dome (and interpreter) and ask him to move to CF for the rest of this season for the good of the team, at the same time assuring him that Hendry will find a CF in the offseason for next year.
And personally, I think Dome will be nodding his head yes well before his interpreter finishes translating…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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We have alot of managers in here
I trust Lou, just about a week ago when the Cubs were hot everyone seemed full of joy and happy about the way Lou was doing things, but we are in a little skid… he needs to adjust with injuries in a 162 game season, and this is a good problem to have. Many different people can be considered at multiple positions… good problem to have
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on
May 3, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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Who's doing play by play today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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bastard
I meant for those of us who can’t see the game…....Where’s Northsider when you need him
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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j/k about the bastard part.....
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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haha
If only someone had a Bat-signal…
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on
May 3, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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hey blue
you get your fanpost’s straight??
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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Not yet.
I haven’t had a chance to email SBN yet with the screencaps Al recommended. Hopefully I’ll get to it tonight. Thanks for asking.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on
May 3, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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they won't reply back
trust me…..i was in the same boat.
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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are you on firefox???
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Yup, latest version
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by bluebythebook on
May 3, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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You had the same problem as me?
Or, you just had a problem?
They’ve responded to me when I have emailed them, too. Weird.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on
May 3, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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I couldn't reply to comments...
...I’d hit “post” and it’d shoot me up to the top of the page….I was on IE6 though…so I downloaded firefos and it’s been fine so far….slow during gamed threads ….but I can reply atleast
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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what happens when you hit "preview" on your fanposts
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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I can't even get that far.
When I either start to type in the Tags box, or am still typing the post itself, the page refreshes suddenly and the background turns from black to blue.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
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May 3, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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Game threads are slow for me too.
I didn’t have a problem early in the season, but lately with these 700+ comment threads it has been taking a while to get caught up with all the comments.
I’ve encountered my issues in IE and Firefox, too. So no easy fix there. meh.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
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May 3, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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Firefox is dreadfully slow on game threads
I switch to IE…..but yeah…..it’s all fked up. soooo many bugs….but what happens when you hit “preview” when you try to post a fanpost using Firefox
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May 3, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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See above
Sorry, I had work to do at work. Ugh, the nerve of these people to bother me at the desk…
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
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May 3, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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I think your problem is
that you need to adjust your pop up blocker settings on Firefox…...
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May 3, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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Do the previews appear in a new window?
I can’t recall what my settings are, so I’ll check when I get home. Thanks.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on
May 3, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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there should be 3 tabs
“post” “preview” and “cancel”
If you don’t have the preview option, then it’s defineitely a setting on firefox that won’t recognize it, because the “fanpost” page is in another friggen world here on BCB….
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May 3, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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what spyware do you hve?
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May 3, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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Zone Alarm Pro
I see what you mean about the tabs now.
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yeah...sscrilbble something and hit "preview"
what does it say when you hit “preview”
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zone alarm pro can be brutal
makes sense
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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It's fine here at work
I’ll have to try your experiment later when I get home.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
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Alright, I tried it
When I click preview a new window does indeed appear, but it takes me to the log in page, despite being logged in.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
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haha, sorry.
northsider was actually doing play-by-play, Northwestern Wildcats @ Illinois Fighting Illini on the radio. (Cats lose, 14-4. ouch.)
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
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May 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT
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Side note.
Rusty Harden says he is going to recommend to his client, Roger Clemens, to drop his defamation lawsuit, because Clemens is “being pummeled” in the media.
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HA
yeah it’s all the media’s fault…..why not blame global warming too!!
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May 3, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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Barry Bonds hates the media
n/t
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Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
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May 3, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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Reed Johnson's #s v. Lohse
.333/.429/.333 in 7 PAs
Fontenot’s faced him once and walked. Ronny’s faced him twice and made two outs.
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Just read the SI article on Dome...
...it was pretty neat. Apparently the first thing he hung up at his new place was a picture of his homer on Opening Day. Said The Riot keeps a Jap-Eng dictionary on him, and Zambrano put his name on his cleats in Japanese.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
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Fun facts about Reed Johnson:
Johnson is now hitting .279/ .366/ .314 on the season going into today’s action. That’s .283/.333/.321 versus right-handed pitching, and .273/.415/.303 against lefties. This lines up pretty well with his career splits, where his OPS against right-handed pitching is about .130 points lower.
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May 3, 2008 2:19 PM CDT
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OBP higher than SLG?
Is that as uncommon as it seems?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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Yes. Very yes.
You have to be very special to pull that trick off.
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May 3, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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How the hell do you do that?!!
n/t
Dan
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May 3, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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By getting very few extra base hits
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
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May 3, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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Something to do with having only three extra base hits, all doubles.
Six HBP doesn’t hurt the cause, either.
Johnson is on pace for 39 HBP this season, by the way.
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May 3, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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How gritty.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
May 3, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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Would tie him for fifth on the all-time list...
...for single season HBP.
I trust I don’t have to explain why I consider this unlikely.
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May 3, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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You think that's bad
I play recreational baseball and my line last year was .333/.421/.333
"Is there anything he can't do?" ~Len Kasper, 4/5/08, on Kosuke Fukudome
by JohnM on
May 3, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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I want to note for the record that he's got a .680 OPS and an 80 OPS+.
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Yeah, but Pie needed to sit
after the failures of yesterday’s game where he went 1 for 2. He needs to clear his head.
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It's almost as if Lou is trying
to make a point to someone about needing a real tablesetter…at least I hope it’s that because the lineups the last few days are confounding.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
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I'm getting Dusty flashbacks
And that’s never a good thing.
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May 3, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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Uuuggghhh...
we’ve lost a few games lately, it’s not like we are in last place. Jeez, what winning does to fans….and how losing changes it all around.
Dan
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May 3, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Hey
I’m talking about Lou’s decisions, mainly lineup wise. It doesn’t matter that we lost the last few wins. Managers should put your team in the best position to win, that’s all.
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May 3, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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Yeah...
...but comparing Lou to Dusty? Isn’t that a big insult?
Dan
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May 3, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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Depends.
Do you think Mike Fontenot is better or worse than Jose Macias?
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I agree
Lou is either losing his mind or he is seeing something nobody else is seeing.
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Or he is willing to lose some games
to force Jim Hendry to make a trade.
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I think Lou would rather gnaw off his own arm than lose a ballgame.
I just question his ability to evaluate talent sometimes.
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That's kind of what we're left with with the Fontenot decision.
He’s either trying to force a trade, or he’s unable to evaluate talent. In either case, it’s on Hendry, isn’t it?
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Corey and Soriano
Soriano shouldn’t be hitting leadoff almost as much as Corey shouldn’t have. Fontenot has no business playing second with the Cedeño has played. That seems Dusty enough for me.
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May 3, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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I think you give Lou too much credit.
That said, is Coco Crisp still available? I’m serious.
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Ellsbury's injured right now, I think.
But it’s short term. It does seem clear that the Cubs are going to trade for an inferior LH CF. Do you want Crisp over one of KC’s LH OFs?
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Dejesus is the only one
that interests me. Teahen’s power has vanished, and Gaithright is basically a Juan Pierre clone at this point.
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Gathright had some OBP last year
but this year’s he’s not hitting at all.
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Defensive projections in CF:
Teahen, -6
Gathright, +9
DeJesus, +6
Crisp, +9
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Yeah.
Out of that group, I’d definitely rather have Crisp. He’s probably a better hitter than any of them, as well.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
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I'm not seeing Crisp as a better hitter than DeJesus
but I’m also ignorant on the KC park effect.
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There's probably an argument there.
If Crisp was better-and I don’t have time to crunch numbers-I suspect the difference would be pretty narrow between he and Dejesus.
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I'm also thinking that Crisp's defensive range
isn’t as valuable when half the games are played in Wrigley and with Dome on his right and an eventually healthy Soriano on his left.
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The projections I have...
...for them on offense:
Crisp: .329
DeJesus: .336
That’s in wOBA – just read it like OBP. Average for KC should be .342, Boston .346.
I think we’re well within the error bar as far as a difference between them.
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Ellsbury just came back,
and picked up right where he left off, so I’d assume the Red Sox might be listening to overtures for Crisp.
What LH OF’s from KC?
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At this point
I’d be willing to play Pie considering how bad Johnson has been. However, it should be pretty clear that neither is the answer.
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Over the last 10 games, these are Pie's #s
.300/.375/.500
If you don’t believe it, see for yourself:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=piefe01&year=2008&t=b
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Like I said, I'd play Pie over Johnson
I don’t think those numbers mean much but Pie has upside and Reed doesn’t and considering that overall Johnson has sucked too I’d rather give the ABs to Pie.
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Long-term the #s don't mean much
but this team seems to be making very short-sighted decisions, so….
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And...
If Pie’s #s in his first 10 games this year were enough to condemn him in the eyes of so many, then what do these #s mean?
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I didn't condemn Pie for his first 10 games
It’s from what I saw last year, in the winter league and this year. However, that being said, with Johnson being the alternative, I’d give Pie ABs.
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Ok
I have been a big Lou supporter, probably one of the biggest. But this last week has been horrendous. Today probably tops it all, having Fontenot at second, which means no Cedeño, and Soriano is still leading off. That’s not giving your team the best chance to win, not by a long shot.
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WWhat about patterson and Marquis for Smoltz???
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There is a nonzero possibility that Smoltz is completely finished.
I hope you’re joking here.
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naturally
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New power rankings have us #3, Cards #4...
...not that they mean too much, but still.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/powerranking?season=2008&week=6&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2
Even they reference ONEDEC, but backwards. :)
Dan
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who's doing play by play
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Didn't you already ask this?
LOL
Dan
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NOONE ANSWERED!!!
I’M FREAKING OUT MAN!!!
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pat and ron
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
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mostly pat
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
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Hahahahhahahaah
Ryan Dempster is doing Haray Carey
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
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Harry*
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
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May 3, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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That was terrific!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
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May 3, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Caray*
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
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He's surprisingly good at that
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Hey ballhawk!
First pitch, 2:45.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
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Yep - and I think I know why
First off, it is a 2:45 start, instead of 2:55. So I’m eating some crow and bow in the general direction of Al and the Fox Wizard guy.
Second of all – I see that FOX has a NASCAR event starting at 6pm, so they’re probably figuring every (10) minute(s) helps.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
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So what's the reason...
... they switch to 2:55 later on? Does NASCAR end?
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don't know for sure
maybe later starts for the races those weeks and/or another network carrying them? I thought maybe NBC has some of them?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
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At least Soriano...
...saw four pitches. Seems like an improvement.
Dan
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Webb k's Reyes
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i'll do dbacks and Mets
YOU do cubs cards
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Do you have to PBP Arizona and New York?
This is the Chicago/St.Louis thread. And it’ll get irritating.
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az
lead off hit for young…...after Webb turned a 543
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Ugh.
I’m still pissed about Cedeno not being in the lineup.
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Cubs go down in order.
We go to the bottom of the inning.
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Gawd... if we lose to a lineup that has Ryan Ludwick in the cleanup spot...
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Soriano
A buck 160 at the leadoff – not a place we need him right now. Let Johnson lead off and take the pressure off Fonzie.
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
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Did you miss that whole discussion about how Johnson can't hit right-handed pitching?
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Yabbut...
... SOMEONE else needs to lead off.
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Dome.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
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How about...
Dome RF
2
3
4
Dome CF
6
7
Pitcher
Is that legal? Can he play two positions?
Dan
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May 3, 2008 2:58 PM CDT
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There's this 2B I know over in Baltimore...
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Quick, which of these is which:
.278/.397/.423
.270/.361/.443
One of those is DeRosa so far this season, the other is Roberts.
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Is DeRosa playing 2B today?
Are the Cubs going to need someone to fill in at LF, RF, and 3B throughout the year?
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Is it too early in the season...
...for Lou to break some shit, throw a blunt object, or get ejected?
Dan
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nope - he warmed up on a cooler last night (or was that Thursday...)
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I'm sorry...
...which part was funny?
Dan
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Dude, did you just advertise yourself?
Yeah, you’re cool.
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Yes, and yes. No views, no comments, and...
...no funnies.
Dan
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lead off hit for young ....how novel
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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Drew hitting 2nd today
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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I hate the Cardinals..
but for some reason I don’t dislike Albert. He seems like a stand up guy.
by Unique on
May 3, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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Cards go down in order as well
Schumaker groundout 3-1
Ryan swinging K
Pujols groundout 1-3
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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nice
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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Albert Pujols...
...is so good, he doesn’t need a functioning elbow to play baseball.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
May 3, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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Gallagher called up..
Hill sent down!
Yes! Start him Lou!
by Unique on
May 3, 2008 2:58 PM CDT
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HAHA
NICE…CALLED IT
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 2:59 PM CDT
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Why do you think Gallagher would be a better starter this year
than Sean Marshall?
by DGU on
May 3, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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THEY CAN'T CALL hART UP
DUMFICKS JUST SENT HIM DOWN
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:01 PM CDT
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let's see what Gallagher has
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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put up or shut up Sean
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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3-2 count to Drew
Young at first
Drew LO9
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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Ok - first time was funny, second time a shrug...
...but please, Lemon – no more. Go play in the snakepit if you have to work off a sugar rush or something…
http://www.azsnakepit.com/2008/5/3/472202/gameday-thread-30-5-3-vs-m
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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hey asshole
I can’t watch the cubs game
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:04 PM CDT
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just trying to play is all
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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too fuckin bad
I could care less about AZ
by bheidge on
May 3, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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good think i don't care a fuck about your opinion
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:06 PM CDT
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KNOCK OFF THE NAMECALLING AND PROFANITY RIGHT NOW!!!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 3:10 PM CDT
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he started it
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:11 PM CDT
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I don't care.
It will stop, NOW.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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This is what losing 6/8...
...have done to us. Oh, how winning fixes everything.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
May 3, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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I wasnt aware
that this was a profanity free website. My fault
by bheidge on
May 3, 2008 3:13 PM CDT
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I would like to keep it that way, yes.
There’s no need for any of that kind of stuff. Deal?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
May 3, 2008 3:14 PM CDT
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Aw did Sue hurt your feelings =(
If you can’t watch the Cubs game, or talk about the specific game today, then get out of the thread that’s called this
Chicago @ St. Louis GameThread, May 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
I know it’s hard to think you’re always entitled to your own opinion, and that you should do what you want, but you don’t. If you disagree, then you are incorrect.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on
May 3, 2008 3:06 PM CDT
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I understand that - but don't take out your frustration with MLB/Fox's broadcast policy on Sue and/or me
Besides, I even said “please”.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
May 3, 2008 3:11 PM CDT
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I still find this funny
n/t
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
May 3, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
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Bar talk
That is exactly what we talked about at the bar last night. Hill got a trip to the heartland.
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
by FSArkCubsFan on
May 3, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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Buck - "First up, Kah Skay Fukudome."
Arent’ these guys supposed to be pros?
by BlueSox on
May 3, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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That was quick
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
by FSArkCubsFan on
May 3, 2008 3:01 PM CDT
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Lieber
Is taking the rotation spot? Cant say he doesnt deserve it
by bheidge on
May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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Where'd you see that?
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
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May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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CBS Sportsline has it
News: The Chicago Cubs demoted left-hander Rich Hill to Triple-A Iowa on Saturday, hours after he walked four batters and failed to survive the first inning. Manager Lou Piniella said Jon Lieber, who allowed five hits in 3 2/3 innings of scoreless relief in Friday night’s 5-3, 11-inning loss to the Cardinals, would replace Hill in the rotation and start on Wednesday.
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May 3, 2008 3:04 PM CDT
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They mentioned Marshall
is taking the spot on FOX…
by Sckrambo on
May 3, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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I guess it doesnt surprise me... Not like Lou ever takes a chance on the more talented youngster..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
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May 3, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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5-4-3 DP
Thanks, Mark!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
May 3, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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DeRosa
seems like he averages a double play every damn game.
by Unique on
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God, we've got Buck and Mccarver.
So, not only do we have to watch the Cubs play like crap, we’ve also got to have Cardinals announcers.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on
May 3, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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atleast I get to watch a game in HD
for a change
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webb is the man
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by lemon20pie on
May 3, 2008 3:08 PM CDT
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