Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Sunday 5/4, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 4, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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An interesting stat for someone to look up...
- of bunts attempted or successful by the Cubs in comparison to rest of the league… seems like we never bunt.
Cubs have 21 bunt attempts on the season...
...with 3 hits and 13 SH.
In the NL this season there have been 357 bunt attempts, 210 SH, 50 hits and 11 reached on error.
Wow so we are right on (a little below) par with the rest of the league
357/16 = 22.3
210/16 = 13.1
50/16 = 3.1
True that
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Updated April 26th
It seemed he trotted to the ball
I think he saw the Derby and didn’t want to get euthanized like belles for giving it all he has
Miller and Morgan
IMO they’re fine. The morgan bitterness gets me but overall I don’t mind them.
OK… can someone please explain why Jason Marquis is still in the rotation when there are far better options?
DmL
PLZ God
I hate going to school/work after these cubs losses so i can hear everyone make fun of how their Cards destroyed us. CAN WE PLZ GET SOME RUNS.
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Updated April 26th
Great, now Morgan and Miller’s man-crush on Albert Pujols can go on forever.
BTW, I am now officially SOS-SIck of Soriano.
by southernilcubfan on May 4, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
Nice AB for Theriot.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Hopefully,
he doesn’t scrap himself into an out on the basepaths.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Time for Derrek to tie up this game with one swing.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It's been awhile since DLee's lost one.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
18th.
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I'm not including replys!
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frak
DLee strikes out.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
you know
when you win this game you gain one, when you lose you lose one.
don't question the wise words of Joe Morgan!
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Front runners and
fracking idiots.
At least Lee didn’t hit a meaningless home run with the bases clogged
by bubbamike the one and only on May 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
Wellemeyer
Be a good cubs fans and give us some runs.
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Todd Wellemeyer.....we let this ace get away from us???????
And Cesar Izturis…..and Augie Ojeda…...wow…...
Well they currently have us beat
with us taking Marquis
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Been trying to
Finals on tuesday/thursday
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It's early.
And I hope you’re joking. All those guys are bad.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Scrappy out on the basepaths.
6 CS already. Very scrappy. Got him from the knees on a hop.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
someone needs to remind LaRussa
that its not sunny out..
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Got hide the
red eyes from the drinky.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
he wears them
so that when the cops pull him over, he doesn’t have to look at the cop’s finger
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He did.
And it hurt.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on May 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It does not help...
That these two lug nuts think the Cardinals are the only team on the field.
by southernilcubfan on May 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
Not that I didn't appreciate them before,
but I think I’ll hug my TV when we see Len and Bob again. I miss them.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
by bluebythebook on May 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Cards fans are so easily amused
and apparently so is Jon Miller
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
they must be really desperate down there in St Louis
cheering….for a caught stealing?
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So we like to run on Molina
but not Kendall?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I like Theriot's scrappiness but his baserunning is pretty mediocre.
He got a real bad jump there. Nothing to do with Molina’s throw.
Yep.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Don't look now.....
The 36 million $$$ man just left another RISP
The best defense is a good offense
Don't look now
the scrappy white guy just made another out on the basepaths trying to break last year’s league-leading mark.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Can we give Cedeno a chance at SS?
Or does Theriot have to continue to ruin any chance of scoring runs.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
It would appear
that our manager is content with the latter.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Perhaps that explains why he does that
so often.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
kcjones, you better
watch yo speed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Standing O
for name that molina…by the best fans in baseball….
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Careful.
I tried that the other day and I’m still sewing the holes in my flame-retardant suit…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Agreed, time for Theriot to go
I’m 100% convinced that Cedeno is the better everyday shortstop.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Sure. he's just been on base twice tonight.
Both on walks, which showed patience at the plate. That’s bad around here, I guess.
by Fraggin Judge on May 4, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He led the ML in outs made on the absepaths last season.
He already leads the league in caught stealing. It doesn’t matter if he gets on base, he’s often not around to score any runs, which is what counts.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Todd Wellemeyer is doing this to us.....I restate Todd Wellemeyer....what next....
Les Walrond comes back and shuts us out…...and then Corey Patterson explodes all over us…..and then Brant Brown returns to make a great catch against us…...grrrrrrrr…...this just ain’t our week…..
and Cap Anson comes back from the dead, joins the Cardinals, and pitches a perfect game against us
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I KNOW ITS EARLY
but if the Cubs lose this one I might just puke.
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Updated April 26th
Well, get a bucket. Team looks lousy.
Soriano still leading off. Marquis on the mound.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
we would be 2-8
in our last 10 then?
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The team is in disarray.
And Lou needs to get it together already.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Same here
and all the shots at Casey Moran’s last night aren’t helping
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Im not much for language
but on top of a loss and tons of cards D-sucking i may just cry,
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Updated April 26th
cedeno needs to play
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
After seeing the replay
it looked like Theriot could have avoided the tag with a better slide.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Or by getting a better jump
or by reading the pitcher better…
or by not being a fairly mediocre balllpayer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
The Catching Molina Brothers!
Coming to a circus near YOU this summer!
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
Where was this Marquis an inning ago?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
whoopdy fricken do, Cards fans!
he threw out a runner and you still cheer?
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
If there was ever any doubt...
that Soriano leading off is a bad move, it’s enough that Joe Morgan thinks it’s the right one. To compare Soriano to Bobby Bonds (as Lou did) or to Tony Gwynn (as Morgan did) is heresy. And then Morgan says he is for Soriano leading off because he thinks players should hit where they can do the most for the team. Huh?
or maybe b/c they
have similar egos?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Oh, Jeez. Molina is up to bat! Swoon time for ESPN.
He threw out Ryan Theriot on a bad jump. Theriot has been caught stealing a lot. He’s got bad judgment. Big freakin deal.
this could be marquis last start.. hopefully gally gets a chance
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
oh!!
let’s hear about Joe Morgan’s weekend!
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LOL
shhh shh PETA might be here..
and speaking of PETA, they are calling for the suspension of the jockey of that horse because “he knew it was going to happen”
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They did? You're kidding, right?
Even the veterinarian doctor said it wasn’t a predictable injury. It was a fluke injury.
by Fraggin Judge on May 4, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
hold your breath all
joe morgan is going to tell us all about what he was up to this weekend, can’t wait!!!!!111
LETS GET SOME MUTHA ****ING RUNS!!!!!!
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yea man!
im with you!
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Payback
Ryan threw him out.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Allow me to introduce the major league leader in Caught Stealing:
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Adding it to the drinking game
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by bluebythebook on May 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Next time Theriot reaches base...
...I want Matt Sinatro to threaten his life if he takes ONE STEP off the bag. What the HELL.
damn it, now i'm going to have to make a grocery run
Anyone in the general uptown area need some whisky while I’m out?
I grew up in Uptown
Everyone in Uptown likely has some whiskey!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
he now leads the league in that category.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
pretty nasty curve to Soto right there...
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
This has got to be
the cards feed of the game
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Soon we will hear about the Cardinals' Pitching Coach
and how the guy is a freakin’ genius. Also, how Mclellan is a magician.
like Joe and Jon?
:-)
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Let's go Reed
get us another hit…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Cedeno
.391 batting avg., .472 obp., 5th on club in rbi`s, with only 46 at bats. Hello!!
Yabbut
Ryan Theriot’s 8 RBI are much more scrappy. They count double.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
HAY
where’s this awesome joe morgan derby story? you can’t tease us like that joe.
wow.. jon miller "Pinella checking the intellegence reports"
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
well, that's what happens when youre literally on the plate..
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
I swear to God
we have someonemessing with our bats to make them break every freaking other at bat.
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Updated April 26th
Question:
Friday’s game Len Kasper said that TV stations cant have radar guns for TV presentations at Busch Stadium
Why does ESPN and Fox have the radar gun?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Never thought of that...
Thanks
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
LaRussa looks like some drunken pervert peering out of his sunglasses at night.
I’m sure he’s had a few bourbons before the game also.
I mean combined with batting the pitcher eighth and wearing sun glasses
i could actually see that..
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Why did Lou clap for Marquis as he got handed the ball...
...and then slapped him on the butt? He should have slapped his face.
except for two gold gloves plays
that saved 4 runs.
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(now accepting applications)
PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
Over/Under
On a Lou Pinella explosion after this game?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Who cares?
Doesn’t mean anything. Lou is in a major slump.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
I blame it on the media regarding Soriano
Even when we were winning games, we were asked about Soriano and what to do with him when he returns. Knowing the mentality of Soriano, it has to affect him. He hit an all-time low on Friday, and aside from the HR, hasn’t been able to recover. Something has to be done with him whether its a psychiatrist or a sit down with Lou.
Soriano is definately slower than usual
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
and there is the Barry Bonds reference!
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Thank you Geo
That coulda been a lot uglier.
I’d like a rally, how ‘bout you?
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
Im down
for about oh, 9 runs this inning
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Because he should've been playing for aboutthe last 3 games
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Finally.
There’s Larussa’s punkass bullshit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
if you think that was intentional
you are a moran (yes.. i know it’s moron)
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PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
If you think Skip Schumaker
belongs on a major league all star team, you are a “moran.”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You know, a great way to earn the benefit of the doubt...
...is to not do the wrong thing so often. On what grounds can you say that LaRussa deserves the benefit of the doubt here?
Grumble
I don’t care how much of a punk you are, you don’t want to plunk the leadoff man.
No one's ever accused
Larussa of not letting his balls get in the way of his brains.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Cedeno plunked!
that’s it! plunk Pujols!
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take off those glasses you drunk!
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Ronny is an OBP machine
lets go Soriano!!!!
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I want to punch Larussa in the throat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
lean into that one
you’re wearing a helmet for a reason
Sori!!
Nice knock!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
base hit for Soriano
3 game hitting streak!
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Hey!
He was reading BCB
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
come on come on
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Scrappy better draw a walk
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
We Must Take Advantage Of This.
Do. There is no try.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
Amen, sister.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
the plate is set for D Lee...
Oh baby….
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Theriot base hit!!
bases loaded
Lee is due..
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Basesloade no out
triple play?
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
BASE HIT
bags juiced for DLEE LET US GOGOGOGOGOGOGO
Ahhh he easily could've scored
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Arrgghhh.
I understand the hold, but I wish Theriot could at least drive the ball a little bit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
There are a lot of things I wish Theriot could do better.
Pretty much every baseball skill, in fact.
Like just get a hit
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
DLee, be the stud you are.
Again, do. There is no try.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
FLASHBACK:
May 9th 2007,
Wrigley Field Derrek Lee Grandslam against White Sox
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
SH*T!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
popup
fukudome…........................your due…......
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Rough night for Lee.
Come on Dome, find a gap.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Resident Baseball Genius
on to make yet another pitching change.
Somewhere, Felipe Alou applauds.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Joe Morgan
Idiot. You don`t make the first out at home. you are 3 runs behind!
damn it i can barely watch this train wreck
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
bases loaded
and one out is a train wreck?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys with ED can relax
because with Cialis you can respond only when your both ready.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Strangely,
I remain unrelaxed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Man, that was a huge out. Shoot.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Mmm, Zep.
Nice. Now let’s get some runs, please.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
Dome will come through... He has never done anythign wrong
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Flores has given up 6 BB.
Let’s be patient here, fellas.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Fooooooooooooook!
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
well he swings at the firs pitch and gets one in
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Ankiel still remarkeably inaccurate
with the throws.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Made it quick and easy. I'll take the run,
but that’s a killer.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
DeRosa needs to break out of his slump
now..
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I think I'd pinch hit Ward right here.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
for MARK DEROSA?
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
and who plays third?
Cedeno already pinch hit. You can’t put him in.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
he' playing third now
this must be something I didn’t understand prior to this; I thought that if you didn’t give a pinch-hitter a position right then and there, you couldn’t slot him in later.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Jon Miller
The smartest thing he has said tonight. The throw should have gone to 3rd. base.
Okay - time waste poll: Who suck worse - Jon Miller or Joe Buck?
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
6 of one, a half dozen of the other.
The real answer is: Matt Vasgersigan.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
the question should have been
Joe Morgan or Joe Buck…THAT would have been hard
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
how about this:
Joe Morgan, Joe Buck, Hawk Harrelson
Hawk, running away.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
But you don't understand!
Everyone really IS against the Sox!
Surely you jest.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't think Lou
likes to play that bush league bullshit like Larussa does.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Listening to Buck,Miller and Morgan
make me miss Chip Carey :)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
I may be in the minority but I actually liked Chip
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Yuck.
He was uninformed and awful. Too talky.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Well I think Len sounds like Kermit
But, to each their own.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
At least he understands baseball.
Chip, especially considering his pedigree, was not exactly a student of the game.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Chip did a pretty good job
of making it obvious all on his own.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
dammit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
way to go DeRosa!
one pitch?? come on!!
He’s in a bad slump right now..
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
Frakking frak
We should have gotten more than one.
Baseball is an allegorical play about America, a poetic, complex, and subtle play of courage, fear, good luck, mistakes, patience about fate, and sober self-esteem. -- Saul Steinberg
What a disappointing evening of baseball.
This team has taken a nosedive.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
wellemeyer started
I expected a LOT
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
it's like reruns
you guys are starting to get boring.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
This is atarting to
Look a lot like last year….....another wasted opportunity
The best defense is a good offense
You mean the last year that we won the NL Central?
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
Yeah come on, KC
This is NOTHING like last year….
Leading the league in runs scored…..tied for 3rd in WL record….etc…
none of those were mentioned a year ago now.
A loss here and there will happen.
And it could be worse – as in a 5 game skid like the southsiders…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Winner! Joe Buck is the hands down suckmeister!!
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
geez
Knock Knock
who’s there?
opportunity for a big inning
no thanks, we don’t want any
Okay, let's get a quick inning and
make hay against this Cardinal bullpen.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
DeRosa needs a break
start Cedeno at 2nd when Ramirez comes back tomorrow. DeRosa in a funk (DON”T GO SAYING WE NEED ROBERTS!).
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
DeRosa has a .729 OPS the past seven games.
Theriot has a .550 OPS the past seven games.
I have no idea why in the hell people seem to blame DeRosa for so much when he’s really one of the top contributors on the team.
I'm not bashing the guy
It’s something to say that his batting average is low and he hasn’t had that many clutch hits so far this season
2008 Cubs: Why Beat A Team in Regulation, when you can beat them in extras?
We should start a DeRo cheer
Like they do for Troy Tulowizki..
DERO…..clap clap clap DERO
eh, who am I kidding.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Wow all around horrible night, how marquis manages to give up 5 runs to that piece of shit cardinal lineup is beyond me, outside of Pujols and Glaus that lineup is pathetic, giving up hits to izturis should result in a fine
Well, because
MArquis is a shitty pitcher.
A typical #5 starter – “Same as it Ever Was”
What a horrible signing by hendry
Along with Soriano
Well, 99% of us
were out of our skulls excited.
You can’t predict a player’s injuries – he had been healthy his whole career.
Could we maybe, just one game when Aramis gets back
Sit DeRosa and Theriot, start Fontenot and Cedeno and see what happens. DeRosa needs a day off.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Anyone else not surprised
to hear that LaRussa is friends with Bobby Knight and Bill Bellichick?
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
Birds of a feather...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Why are we letting Gallagher pitch here?
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
he did pretty good.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Cubs can't pull this one out
this will be back to back series losses to the two biggest division rivals
fantastic
It would take some excitement, that's for sure. Walk, walk, bomb.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Say goodnight, Gracie
Two innings to go …
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
given what the Brewers
have done lately, I’m not terribly worried. The cards aren’t going to maintain this pace.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean like their fans?
I kid.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Miles=Theriot, minus the pornstach
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Gallagher just hit 95
didnt think he threw that hard. WIsh we would let him start
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
and again
i thought he was 92
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
No, no, no.
You demote or bench good players. You let bad ones work through it, see if they can find their groove again.
Blown hit-and-run.
Miles had no shot, but Soto made a really strong throw. Nice to have that image in the minds of prospective base-stealers…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Nice throw by Soto, but
I’m pretty sure that was a blown hit-and-run.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No sympathy here.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I gave Soto
A standing O…i’m the best fan in baseball;)
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
I did as well, a Cardinal fan I am sitting with didn't enjoy it
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
lol nice
haha yadi that one didn’t have the distance
Great pitch by Sean and great throw by Soto.
Hey, Sean…great inning.
Jason Marquis, your ticket to Iowa is waiting.
How's that for a weird 3rd out?
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Good inning for Sean he looked a lot better than last year
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
Anyone see Gallagher's picture on MLB Gameday?
Either they need a new photographer or he has a weird face.
Sorry, I don’t have cable… have to amuse myself somehow…
Marquis has the worst "stuff" of anyone on our pitching staff
Gallagher’s stuff is ten times better, he needs to be starting.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Yeah.
I’ve decided that Marquis is likely the worst player on the team. He needs to go away.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'd like 2 walks then a homerun please.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Agreed rotation should be
Z, Lilly, Demp, Gallagher, and Lieber
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
I agree..
Gallagher should be starting.
I dunno or don’t think it was 100% accurate.. but he was hitting 97 MPH on the gun.
we'd need to put Hill in the pen then
Gallagher is the only lefty on the roster now other than Lilly.
Sorry, but
Gallagher is a RHP.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
you mean the watermelon smashing comic?
I love him!
I like DeRosa, but
his prolonged slumps ellicit double-plays at an alarming rate.
Not a guy I ever want up with bases loaded if it can be helped (see game 3 NLDS).
This is exactly the reason I hate having him behind Fukudome.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
I think DeRo is a good utility guy.
But he probably shouldn’t be starting—especially if we had a real 2nd baseman like B.R.
Roberts is hitting .266
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
oh, for...
we do not need Brian Roberts!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If only we had traded for the Baltimore 2B
that is hitting 11 points lower, then we could bitch about what a crappy trade it was…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I honestly feel like I'm talking about a different player altogether...
...when I discuss DeRosa with some of the people on this board. He’s having a great season so far.
If DeRosa were to keep playing the way he has been...
...he’d have the highest OPS+ of his career. And people are talking about benching him! Good lord.
Yep.
While Theriot and Fontenot have 17 COMBINED.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah.
I have no complaints. Amazing how some people will complain about every guy on the roster except the scrappy two.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
And..
Reed, who I like but shouldn’t be playing so much against rh pitching…
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
He's the fourth-best second baseman in the NL right now...
...according to weighted OPS (1.8*OBP+SLG). It drives me crazy.
He's solid
and his flexibility, and willingness to move around makes him a rare type. Roberts can only do one thing Derosa can’t: steal bases. But Derosa can do a lot that Roberts can’t , like play every damne position except CF, C, and P.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
At least the Brewers lost a tough one today
Blew the game in the 9th, and lost to a Pence HR in the 12th. I don’t think the Cards are competitive over the long run.
hey - leadoff walk
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Suck it Aram
We need a homer.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
suck it up*
i want him to come in
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I was scared
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Gio has so many quality ABs
lots more then Sori
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I really want the Cubs to give Gallagher a chance..
I don’t get all this veteran crap. We haven’t even let him do what he does best—start.
Sorry but deal w/ it.
It’s the way Lou works (mostly)
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
It's the way everyone works
You have a much better idea what you’re going to get out of a player with some experience.
Lou has given young players a chance, although not always some of the ones we’ve wanted. Cedeño, Murton, etc.
Silver lining...
Gallagher , MArquis has one more start closer to demotion in favor of Marshall, still very early in the year, and worst case, 1.5 games out…
I'm fine with Lou punching Marquis
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
A productive feel-good out?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Here's hoping Soriano gets a chance to do something.
Maybe they’ll make a mistake.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Come on, Reed!
Please get us a hit….just a hit…
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
ill take a walk
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 4, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Way to go Morgan
He pretty much just read that whole Fukudome story word for word from Sports Illustrated.
i thought it sounded familiar
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 4, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
he can read?
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I wish he'd always read from magazines
at least he’d sound smarter
here ya go now...
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
warning track power
n/t
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
ill buy a onedec jersey
ill pay to get it changed
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 4, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Top of the order
Well no matter what Cedeno does, we’ll have the top of the order up in the 9th vs Izzy. I don’t mind that at all.
I just noticed
Cedeno has cute little tattoos on his cute little forearms.
Oh, he’s so manly!(snicker snicker)
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Well,
He is an infield predator.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ehh oh well.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Bad AB's all around that inning.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I thought those were pretty good at bats, just didnt get the right result
better than the clueless 2-3 pitch at bats that would result in a weak groundout or popout
That would be
Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde, but the metaphor is appropriate, nonetheless.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Bad AB's? Really?
Even though 3 of the 4 AB’s were outs, Cedeno’s was the only one that didn’t last 7 pitches.
Shows you how much some people know
I was wondering about that comment myself.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
That one comment is sufficiently indicative of my intelligence. Pray I don’t take the same view of yours.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You don't give us much to go on
Lighten up and say what you mean/mean what you say when you post.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno, perhaps you should look around.
I’ve been on the thread the whole game, while you just showed up, as you are wont to do, when the Cubs are behind.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't sit around the computer all night
And I wasn’t around it for the last three losses prior to this one. And instead of being around it the next three nights, I’ll be in Cincinnati at the games.
I’ll give you the rest of my weekly schedule later, if that’s OK.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
As usual, you wildly miss the point
and implicitly mount the “mother’s basement” MSM meme. Well done. Enjoy the games. Great American Ballpark is a great place to watch a game, the food is pretty good, and the Cubs usually score some runs up there.
I’ll pass on being kept abreast of your schedule. It might make me feel inadequate.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Just pointing out the timing
And not saying I’m only here when the Cubs lose. It does seem like there are a lot of ledge-jumpers here who only show up in those circumstances. (Not that you’re one of those.) And you can have your laptop in your living room while you’re watching, I guess, but I don’t have one.
I’ve been to GABP before and enjoyed it very much. Thanks for the good wishes. Let’s agree on getting some Cubs victories there, OK?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see 2 of 3.
Cueto’s been struggling, and the Cub hit Harang well last time out, but Volquez is dealing. He does walk a few, though, so maybe with some patience and timely hitting, the Cub can plate a few and win.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
2 of 3 is about right, I think
Can’t remember what happened when they saw Volquez in Chicago, but I liked what I saw from him. Looks like the Rangers just hate good pitching, or else why would they have traded him?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
All apologies.
Unproductive AB’s? Does that suffice?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
What's that?
Wildly inconsistent offense?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I don't see us
coming back—it’s been a awful game offensively. But it wasn’t as bad of a lost as the last couple ones. We will get them tomorrow if we don’t come through tonight.
6 runs inthe 9th
Counts the same as 6 in the 1st. It only takes one inning.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 4, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
"Get them Tomorrow"?
They will have lost three straight series!
"Albert is special"
It takes one to know one.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
The real problem is
In each of the last three series, the Cubs have lost the “50-50” game, in rough ways. (By 50-50, I mean the game in the series that could have gone either way.)
In Washington, it was the first-game loss on the Nieves homer. Vs. Milwaukee, it was the blown save in the series finale. In this series, it was the first game, thanks to Soriano’s buffoonery in left field.
These things tend to even out.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
You're right Bruce...
however, I believe in most of these losses, the team has gotten – what – 3, 4, 5 hits in a game.
The “magic number” so far is 4-5 runs for a W.
Seems right, E-Man
Fewer runs than that and it’s usually a loss. Which seems odd, considering how decent (by and large) the starting pitching has been.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not too worried yet
The at-bats have been much better and the offense seems to have something going every inning, just a matter of getting the timely hits, also the starting pitching must improve and with lieber now in the rotation i believe it will, hopefully we can get marquis out soon enough
by CubsBall2202 on May 4, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we go!!
Lets get to Izzy right away. I’m not overly confident, but i like the fact that izzy has struggled lately.
Good innings by Sean!
And Isringhausen—your first name is Jason….live up to that name as Marquis did.
Right now,
Soriano has made the team worse, in the short term until his next “streak”. In addition, the closer is unreliable, when we have been able to even get the ball to him.
Still a long season, but changes need to occur…
Hopefully, we can get to Izzy again.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Completely Biased
broadcast, this Pujols interview has been segmented three times tonight, and that CS by Molina earlier became the talk of an entire half-inning
To be fair, the Cubs look like shit.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Yeah.
The Cubs aren’t offering much in the way of baseball activity that can/should be analyzed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Only making a comment about tonight's showing.
Settle down, there, boss.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
oh I know you were, I was concuring in regards to the bias comment above..
Felix Pie must play everyday!
I see.
No worries.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
makes Soriano swing at the first pitch
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Well stop it then, guys!
*clicks “post”
poop.
This will be
the 3rd series in a row we have lost. Extra pain since two of those series losses were to the Brewers and now the Cardinals. We just can’t seem to win the close ones lately.
Won some close ones early,
and are dropping them now. Baseball can be a cruel game at times.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
great Sori.
just. great.
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
How many runs did we score yesterday?
Cant score 5+ everytime.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 4, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I have said this before
and I hate it, but LaRussa truly is the best in the business.
The damn Ned Flanders of baseball, the Cardinals.
No, no he is not.
His clubhouse is full of drunks and druggies, he’s in love with the beanball, and he’s a belligerent asshat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I would really like to see a Milwaukee vs St. Louis series
when Yost and LaRussa have their pitchers bean each other until the entire bullpen has been ejected. Prime time entertainment.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Didn
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Didnt notice
but my love for him has certainly dropped
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Pathetic series loss to the cardinals
There lineup is no better than a AAA one without pujols
Talking about Sori HR friday night Morgan " I am sure Isringhousen would tell you that was just a bad pitch"
....gee Joe do you think that Soriano’s skill had any part in hitting the HR?
Felix Pie must play everyday!
ugly game by us
at least the bullpen looked good this series
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
have to swing at that
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Todd Freakin' Wellemeyer
OMG!! What a shit pitcher the guy was for us.
Why couldn’t they have signed Glendon Rusch?
Thanks for coming in, Jason.
Somebody get that guy a plane ticket.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
That was a pathetic game
Please can Marquis injure his shoulder or something
Thats not cool.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 4, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad form, dude.
Never wish for injuries.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Except when you wish them upon the opposing manager?
Just sayin
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
When did I wish them on Larussa?
I said I wanted to punch him. I never said I wanted him to get an injury. Good Lord, think before you type.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It's not even worth it
Let’s just win tomorrow, agreed?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
I hope so.
I can’t take this kind of aggravation more than twice a week!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Lee looked lost tonight at the plate.
Made the web gem though. We’re gonna need to start winning series soon. And something has to happen with the Soriano situation. This cannot continue.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Don't count on it
IMO, Lou will let him slump until he gets out of it.
You sounded a lot like Dusty right there
God forbid we can walk to get on base
by CubsBall2202 on May 4, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I had a dollar
for everytime Morgan and Miller said “Albert Pujols”.
Cuz then I’d hire a hitman.
I knew the Cubs would lose this game when I saw the pitching matchup.
Yeah I noticed that, too
It was the equivalent of the John Madden / Brett Favre love affair, but for Sunday Night Baseball
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on May 4, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
With the first two pitches being 94 mph fastballs, I was really guessing as to what the 3rd pitch would be…
I'm gonna pray
the Cubs get back on track against the Reds, otherwise that great April aint gonna amount to jack diddly
Right,
If we lose the next series, the season is over. Is that what you’re saying?
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 4, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Another pathetic series loss
Coming more and more frequent.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
and to add the icing on the cake
having to listen to Miller emphatically proclaim the Cardinals win…
I swear that fat, pompous jerk is a Chicago hater.
"I'm retiring to the bedroom to finish this one up. I have tried the floor, both couches, and the recliner and haven't found the lucky spot." - Cribbs463
Rough Stretch right now
Get them tomorrow. We were going to have these kind of struggles this year, lets just hope we get it turned around quick and win 5-6 in a row, 9 of 10. Well night all, see ya all tomorrow night!
Get them tomorrow
Would be nice to get them today or win a freaking series.
God cubs r terrible these past 10 or so games.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
Still have a good feeling...
We’ve lost 6 of 9 but yet we’re only a game and a half out, for some reason i’m not horribly worried just yet. We’ve seen how good of a team we have when we’re firing on all cylinders. We’ll be just fine. Theres a lot of baseball left.
"Go Cubs Go"
Im just being a poor loser
Im not bad usually, but these losses are becoming EXTREMELY familiar and i need to see some fire.
I know i dont speak alone when I say “life is hard, im tired of school/work/extra work and when all you ask for is alittle pickmeup in the day and you get anothe cubs loss”.
its heartbreaking.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
There's Always AL Teams
Lots of Cubs fans have an AL team to root for as well (Yankees, Red Sox, Angels). Helps to balance things when the Cubs struggle.
Agreed
I’m with a man, some of these losses have been tough, i’m just saying i’m not ready to get to worked up just yet. Every team in the league will have a stretch where they struggle. I think we have a great time and they’ll come back around.
"Go Cubs Go"
With
the 3 pitchers were going to face vs. the Reds it won’t exactly be easy..maybe some dusty mistakes can get us going again we got hot last time we played them
It's going to be really tough.
We’re going to need someone to get hot, quick.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on May 4, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano, Derosa, Theriot, Fontenot
Business as usual!! C`mon Cub fans!
Gallagher deserves a start...
There was a reason Marquis was left off the playoff roster…
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Cedeno
HAS to be starting soon, and we need Aramis back ASAP..anyone hear when he will be back in the lineup? All I heard is negative X-Ray, but bad swelling
This team has been
sad, not much else to say…just losing series after series.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
Wow
not real thrilled with them facing Cueto. THe only upside to this is that they were leading the division, so they’re not falling too far behind. Mark DeRosa has been poor as of late. Just plain poor. Too many damn walks.
Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.
This team looks poor
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
I see you subscribe
to the Dusty Baker fan club.
Mark DeRosa is hitting .277.
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
"Too many damn walks"
As in giving them up or getting them?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
OH for sure
giving up walks. Like looking worried to pitch to Adam Kennedy, and walking him, with Pujols on deck. Cubs pitchers (other than Z) seems to never work ahead.
Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.
Check that...
.267, and has 3 RBI in the last 7 games. The guys have been on base for him, he’s just not hitting them in. He’s one for his last 14, that is “poor as of late”.
Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.
Deros is hitting
.267, and has 3 RBI in the last 7 games. The guys have been on base for him, he’s just not hitting them in. He’s one for his last 14, that is "poor as of late".
Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.
Lou has to shake things up.
Fukudome needs to be moved up, Soriano down. Lou won’t make the move of course, and it is pissing me off.
And the rotation. Yikes. Hill gone. Marquis is Marquis. Dempster has to keep it together. He’s been great, and we need him to keep it up.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Lou Better Be Ready
to look long and hard in the mirror if he waits too long to do something about the lack of production at the top of the lineup.
Retribution!
who cares…i hate when people act like there is some sort of rule where you gotta hit someone else or something. How about alittle retribution in the form of winning some god damn series. Im sure that would mean more then giving someone a base.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
Plays Into
the hands of guys like LaRussa, who will stoop to anything to get a team’s best hitter out of the lineup. Until you plug one of their guys in retaliation and force THEM to miss a key series, you’ll keep being the other team’s biotch.
This is isn't about
“being the other team’s biotch”; it’s about playing the game with a little dignity. Just becasue Larussa refuses to do so, doesn’t mean everyone else should.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'm still cough from the dust
off that old chestnut.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Plus, It's True
This isn’t kiddie league where everyone gets a ribbon. You’re out there to WIN – and if some coward punks you, do it back and give them a taste of their own medicine. They’ll turn tail so quick it’ll make your head spin.
It's not true.
Good Lord. The team that score more runs than their opponent wins and that has nothing to do with nice guys and assholes. It has to do with pitching and hitting. Bottom line. All the rest is pie-in-the-sky psychobabble.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Really
The Leo and Billy Martin days are over.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Are you Serious?
I am sure thats what Tony was thinking and trying to do…not to mention thats pretty tough to do
Meh.
I’m not worried about it. I don’t think the pitch that hit Rammy was on purpose and it doesn’t seem like Lou is really into this beanball bullcrap.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Maybe
when Eyre comes back we can bring Marshall back in the lineup and put Marquis in Lieber’s old role. I think thats were he is best suited as the long man in a 1-3 inning spot when where in a jam or need someone to mop up innings to save pen in a lobsided game
Shake it up baby...
Dome bats first, Theriot sits, Onedec plays ss, straight platoon in cf with RJ and Felix, Fonty and Riot platoon 2b when DeRo moves to another position. And Gallagher in and Marquis out.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
I'd rather se Dome 1st, Derosa second
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yup...Dome only has 13rbis in the 5th spot.
...great OBP but you need your 5th hitter to drive in more runs.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
I like that too
That would work for me. Where would you bat Sori? 5th?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Soto 5th and Sori 6th
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah
That would work for me. Or, bat Sori 9th and tell him it’s the new leadoff, and all the cool guys are doing it now.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
Im gonna go puke
after watching another disgusting cubs “performance”. I wonder if im the only other person who really feels sick after losing 6 out of the last 9 to just OK teams.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
That is baseball
we lost first series to Cards last year at home and still went 11-5 vs the cards which meant we were 10-3 the rest of the way, we lost all 6 to Marlins last year, and we did not really beat up on Houston or Pitt to after break. Stretches like these happen to every team its just important to minimize them & get out of them as quick as we can
I don't like to lose
But the Brewers are a good team and the Cardinals might be better than we think.
It’s a long season. We’ll know more by Memorial Day, I suspect.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the pitching injuries
currently piling up for the Brewers have put a real dent in their chances, but that offense can always score runs. The Cardinals are a real paper tiger, though. No way these pitchers keep doing this (thought Wellemeyer was less than spectacular tonight), and I’m sorry, but Ryan Ludwick and Skip Schumaker can’t carry a team. If they build a significant lead, though, it’ll be a task to make it up.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Im sorry
if it seems like im blowing up, i just hate getting crap loads of heat from Cards/brewers/white sox fans. No, i dont think the season is over or anything stupid like that. I would just really like to start winning some series again.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
They will.
Thing in baseball move in cycles. The Cubs are in a rough patch, is all, They’ll come around, and that Cincy bandbox is a good place to get a struggling offense back on track.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
We will see
and i hope your right.
Imma just go take a breather and wish i smoked. Cya guys tommorow, lets plz turn this around.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
So they have anothe scrappy white guy around?
Who cares? That staff is mediocre at best and it’ll come back to get ‘em in the end.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It's
frustrating because down three we had the bases loaded with none out and our two best hitters in the lineup to hit and we got 1run on a sac fly, and then DeRosa was his usual self in clutch spots—his bat nowhere to be found
I also
just wanna get some damn pitchers.
My 08 Cubs record 4-0
My 08 W.Sox record 0-2 (I havent seen a sox win in 3 years)
Updated April 26th
Bottom line
Pujos comes through, Lee does not. Marquis should not be in the rotation, can’t get Iztuis out or Kenendy, What Marquis gives up 12 base runners in 5 1/3,. nice work.
But it is all Soriano's fault, always is."Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
DLee
had a rare bad night. Why wave at the 1-0 pitch, when he’s been struggling with the zone? Not a hitters pitch. He didn’t seem to have any quality AB’s tonight. Ditto Dome and DeRosa can’t get clutch hits. He just can’t. I’d hit him 2nd myself. I’d love to know his stats with runner on 3rd & less than 2 out. Must be pretty bad.
Soriano should hit 5th. Period.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 4, 2008 10:43 PM CDT reply actions
We'll Be OK...IF
Lou doesn’t hesitate to revise the batting order and someone else takes Marquis’ spot.
Miller and Morgan
Were horrible, I think it was the 2nd or 3rd inning that they spent the entire inning talking about Matsui and Ichiro. They really spent the entire game talking about pujols and other players in the league that were not currently on the field. Why even have them there if they aren’t going to talk about the game thats being played right in front of them?
"We Are Not Fair Weather But Foul Weather Fans, Brothers In Arms In Streets and The Stands." -Eddie Vedder, Someday We'll Go All The Way
The Cubs can't win if D. Lee doesn't hit.
Another losing series against a contender in the division. That’s worrisome. I’m not going to talk about the Soriano effect in the lineup because I think the absence of A. Ramírez is a bigger hole right now.
For the record.
I like Jon Miller and Joe Buck. Flame me if you want to. On the other hand, I think Joe Morgan makes too many stupid comments. So does Tim Mccarver. Sometimes they say something worth listening to, but not too often.
Joe Buck sucks
Why he and McCarver are allowed to do Cardinals games on National TV is beyond me. Aren’t they both Cardinals employees? At least the Cubs won the game they blathered over.
Jon Miller was okay for a while back in the 90s. And I thought it was disgraceful that ESPN makes him read promos for upcoming albums and forces him to use hip stupid slang like “It DROPS on May 8th”...actually, I think he said “It will be dropped” which was funny and sad.
Good thing about tonight?
Wood didn’t have a melt down and we got glimpses of the replacements for Marquis. It sucks losing to the Cards but it happens, they are playing well, too. Now, I’d love to see a 3 starters go pitch 7 innings each game, clog the bases, and thump the Reds. Hopefully none of the Reds games will go to Wood, I just don’t trust him after one month and I want to sweep the Reds.
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