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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Tuesday 5/6, 6:10 CT

Chicago @ Cincinnati


Kerry!


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Ten years ago today, Kerry Wood tied the major league record for K's in a single game by striking out 20 Astros and shutting them out 2-0 on one hit with no walks. It is arguably the most dominating single-game pitching performance in baseball history.

Bruce Miles has today written a personal memoir of the 20-K game, including some details I had not heard before:

On his first pitch of the game, Wood hit home-plate umpire Jerry Meals in the face mask. It was a ball that catcher Sandy Martinez couldn't quite reach. With Wood having uncorked that pitch, it's difficult to believe he didn't walk a single batter that day.

"First pitch," Wood said as he leaned against his clubhouse folding chair and chuckled. "I threw a fastball. Sandy didn't get it; it just barely nicked his glove, and it hit him in the mask. First pitch of the game."

I asked Wood if he ever talked with Meals about that pitch.

"No, but I remember kind of thinking, 'That's probably not the way I want to start the game off, hitting the umpire in the face with the first pitch,'" he said. "When you see it later on, when you see it on the replay, it's, 'Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.' It was kind of funny."

Wood also told Paul Sullivan that:
"I think I've met everybody at the game," Wood said facetiously. "I've probably met about 26,000 of them. I've met all of them. Every last one."

I know he's kidding, but I was there, sitting through the drizzle that lasted a couple of innings and the excitement you could feel in the crowd. I've never met Kerry Wood. Someday, I'd like to, if only to thank him for this memorable day and for his classiness as a major league player. Who would have guessed that ten years later, he'd be closing for the Cubs?

I hope he closes out tonight's game by striking out the side.


Next Game

Chicago Cubs
@ Cincinnati Reds

Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Great American Ball Park

Carlos Zambrano vs Aaron Harang

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

Complete Coverage >


Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
C. Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Aaron Harang
A. Harang
Reds
4-1 W-L 1-4
2.11 ERA 2.98
35 SO 41
11 BB 11
3 HR 5
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Zambrano 4-1 7 7 0 0 0 0 47.0 44 11 11 3 11 35 2.11 1.17


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Aaron Harang 1-4 7 7 0 0 0 0 48.1 41 18 16 5 11 41 2.98 1.08

I'm opening this game thread early because you guys have been real chatty in the recap thread from last night's game and with over 300 comments at 1 pm CDT, it's likely to start running slow.

This is a matchup you don't often see these days -- ace vs. ace. Z has been outstanding this year, and has already beaten the Reds once, throwing 7 strong innings on April 16. And the day before that, the Cubs beat up on Harang, with D-Lee and Mark DeRosa homering off him. That was Lee's 5th career HR off Harang; he's 13-for-38 (.342) lifetime against him.

The Reds usually hit Z pretty well, especially Dunn (6 career HR) and Griffey (.364/.447/.697). Dunn homered in the April 16 game, but off Kevin Hart. If Z keeps the ball down as he has been this year, the Cubs will break their two-game losing streak.

Today's game is on cable in Chicago and Cincinnati and at theMLB.com Mediacenter.

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Today's overflow comment thread will post at 7:45 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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When you finally meet Wood, Al...

please thank him on behalf of all of us, baseball fans around the world, who saw the game live on TV and cannot forget it. It was probably the best individual pitching performance I’ve ever seen, because of the command the guy had.

by Fraggin Judge on May 6, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Also,

Please slip him my number.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

LMAO!

OK, Sarah. You’re on. (Remember, he’s married.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Doh!

Ah yes, but to a Sarah. I could easily slip in and no one would be the wiser. It’s like a Lifetime Television for Women script come to life.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Does he really need any other distractions? haha

"He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His organ donation card also lists his beard. He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's also a fighter so don't get any ideas. He is....The Most Interesting Man in the World.

by Keystone80435 on May 6, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Say.

You’ve got a point there. I can see you scheming from here.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Muah ha ha...

Heck, I already have the shirts made up! Why not.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

FYI...

... that IS actually Sarah, as I have seen her wearing that actual shirt.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 2:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Deep Goat?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 3:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

LOL

Nope!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I LOLed at this.

n/t

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on May 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yep

That picture was taken at that game, actually.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 3:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yomma Homma

--Cosmo Kramer

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah

That’s the “other” Sarah. She doesn’t have a shirt. Buuuuut she has a ring. It all evens out.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 3:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Shirt=ring?

Hmm. I’m guessing you’d trade.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 3:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hmmm.... good point

Perhaps I could be the wife to be named later??

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 3:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Or the relief wife?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Kerry IS from Texas...

but I don’t think he’s an LDS member…so you’re out of luck Sarah.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 6, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Or

She can be the set up woman… I’ll be the closer.

Aaaaand things just got weird. I’m stopping now.

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

bwawaw

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

rotflamo...

2008: The year we put it all together.

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

BTW

Kerry is the closer.

OK, now Im done.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I can't believe it - a thread like this and no mention of KOW?

Has BCB finally grown up? Say it ain’t so….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 6, 2008 4:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Has BCB grown up?

Youll have your answer if the Cubs play poorly and the trolls come out of hiding.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 6, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Too true.

I’ve almost sworn off game threads for that exact reason.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on May 6, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It crossed my mind, but I refrained.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2008 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

you know, in all those posts making fun of

Carrie Muskat, I kept trying to think of a pun for KOW and Carrie, like Kerry’s Other Wife, Meet Carrie’s Other Husband

by philadelphiacub on May 6, 2008 6:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Wow. Wow. Wow. hahaha

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 6, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Man that's good... !

I’m gonna have to make myself a “Mr. Sarah Hope” shirt. :)

Cubs 2008 (18-14)
Home (11-6) | Road (7-8) | 1-Run Games (4-3) | Extra Innings (4-2)
Updated on May 5, 2008

by SackMan on May 6, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

lol wow

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on May 6, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

let's go z/cubs

here’s to hoping big z can get us back on track tonite and start us on a nice long winning streak, although i guess with the dback series looming that might not be the most realistic thought. in any case, i think we’ve now loaded the bases in 16 consecutive games, so let’s do it again and knock in some more runs this time!

by gocubsgoradio720 on May 6, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

One hit

I think all of us would argue that it was the most dominating pitching performance in history. If it had been a no-hitter I don’t think anyone would argue with us. What is the consensus of the group: should Kevin Orie have gotten to that ground ball? Was it that sharply hit? I don’t recall, I just remember it being slightly out his reach as he ranged to his left. In hind sight, I would have liked to have seen him get his uniform dirty trying.

"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney

by NashvilleBlue on May 6, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Orie himself said it should have been an error.

And though it wasn’t an easy catch, it should have been made, as Orie’s glove touched the ball. I understand the scorer’s reasoning, though. But I still think it should have been scored as an error.

by Fraggin Judge on May 6, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

a couple things.

nashville, your post got me thinking and i went back to look at the box score/play-by-play for that game and noticed a couple interesting things (although I do not remember whether Orie should have made that play).
1. Kerry had a balk…just thought that was interesting since he was so dominant otherwise.
2. The first 8 batters of the game struck out… Also, as a sidenote, Shane Reynolds had a very good game for the Astros, striking out 10 and allowing 2 runs in 8 ip.
3. Kerry was hit by a pitch in the 3rd inning. Again, not sure why, but I thought that was kind of weird.

by gocubsgoradio720 on May 6, 2008 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Gutierrez...

... who was the only baserunner, was sacrificed to second and balked to third.

Take another look at the scorecard. Wood struck out, grounded out and popped up in his 3 at-bats. There were no HBP.

Also, the combined 30 strikeouts (20 by Wood, 10 by Reynolds) is the major league record for both teams in one game.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

HBP

Even though Wood did not walk anyone he did hit someone, Biggio correct?

Of the 7 batters to actually make contact, do you know how many even got the ball to the outfield? My memory tells me only a couple made it out of the infield.

"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney

by NashvilleBlue on May 6, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It was maybe two?

This is another reason (along with the Ks and lack of hits or walks) that it is considered by some to be the most dominant performance ever.

by SouthernCub on May 6, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

oops

my bad, i read the hbp and thought kerry was hit, when he actually hit biggio.

by gocubsgoradio720 on May 6, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Right.

There were two baserunners, the single by Gutierrez and the HBP—which, as you can see, happened on a 1-2 count. He might have had 21 K’s.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Al

aren’t there only 27 outs in each game. If he had struck out Biggio, he would have had one less batter faced, not one additional strike out, right?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on May 6, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yup...

since the last out was (I believe) a K, then a K of Biggio would have just replaced the last K.

Now, if Wood had gotten a groundout in the last AB, then the 21 K statement would be correct.

by SouthernCub on May 6, 2008 2:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, that's wrong.

The additional K of Biggio would have replaced the third out in the sixth inning, which was a popup to first base.

It would have had nothing to do with the last out of the game. Now, you could argue that since Wood would have faced different hitters each inning if he hadn’t hit Biggio and the result might have been different, sure.

But he struck out eight of the last nine he faced.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 2:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I guess...

It of course depends on how you view conditional events following the Biggio AB. The question is what would have happened with each subsequent hitter for the rest of the game. Would the popup have still happened to start the next inning? Or would the new situation have resulted in a different outcome?

Sure – anything’s possible. But you could just as easily say “if the popup had not been caught, he could have had 21 K,” or “if any of the other non-K outs didn’t happen, he could have had 21 K.”

If we assume the events would have happened, as they did, then the Biggio K replaces the last out of the game (which was also a K). Anything beyond that is, of course, pure conjecture.

by SouthernCub on May 6, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm going to have to endure Thom Brennaman tonight, again.

I’m still mad about his comment about my homeboy Soto last night. What a sorry excuse for a play-by-play announcer!

by Fraggin Judge on May 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

?

what did he say about soto? i missed it.

by gocubsgoradio720 on May 6, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The color guy accused Cueto of not being able to read

Cueto was worried about DeRosa when he was on first, and the color guy commented that he didn’t think Cueto knew how to read. It was something along the lines of Brennaman saying- No need to even worry about DeRosa over there, and the color guy responding- He should of read the scouting report, but I don’t think he knows how.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on May 6, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I did hear that!!!

How racist.

I believe it went:
Brennaman: “Not sure what Cueto is doing, worrying about DeRosa. DeRosa is not a threat to steal. Maybe he didn’t read the scouting report.”
Color guy: “Maybe he doesn’t know how.”

Awkward silence…

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on May 6, 2008 4:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it’s insulting, but i don’t see how it’s racist. there’s nothing racial in the quotations you posted.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on May 6, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I used to really like Thom when he did national games.

That being said, he is clearly on a mission to make the world hate the Cubs during these local Reds games. It started with the Pie comment about always overthrowing people, accusing Soto of being on steroids, making little comments about Soriano and his contract every chance he got. The guy pretends to be an expert about a team that he hasn’t covered in years, and his “expert” opinion always paints the Cubs as either a dumb baseball team or cheaters.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on May 6, 2008 4:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Great post, Al

I may be a little biased, but it was just lovely :)

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

LMAO

Thanks. And yes, you ARE biased (but forgiven).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

JUST WIN!!

"He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His organ donation card also lists his beard. He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's also a fighter so don't get any ideas. He is....The Most Interesting Man in the World.

by Keystone80435 on May 6, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Seconded.

n/t

I Believe!!!!

by Sarah Hope on May 6, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Its the freakin Reds!!

I dont care if there are 8 errors and Z gives up 8 runs. Just beat the lame Reds!

"He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His organ donation card also lists his beard. He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's also a fighter so don't get any ideas. He is....The Most Interesting Man in the World.

by Keystone80435 on May 6, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

In case you missed me...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 6, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply reply   1 recs

Brilliant!!!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on May 6, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey, welcome back!

Catch any fish? Snare any mountain lions :-)

by zevkalman on May 6, 2008 2:09 PM CDT