What Player would you most like to see on the Cubs...
by ragamuffindaniel on May 9, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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What player would you most like to see on the Cubs?
Please explain why the other team would be willing to do that trade.
I have seen rumors that Griffey might be on the radar, but im unsure how much i would want Fukodome in CF.
I am starting to think we need another ACE. Any suggestions?
Are we content with our infield?
I feel pretty happy with our bullpen and i think Lilly will get on track
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this obviously
isnt too realistic at THIS point. BUT in he FUTURE Scott Kazmir. He is going to get more expensive and the Rays most likely will not hold onto him for the long future. Like i said this this isn’t too realistic at this point
by Glacier on May 9, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man I would love him too but like you said prolly won't happen
That team is playing well for a bunch of youngsters. Especially with that staff they could have something going in just another year or two… even in that division…
by dus22 on May 9, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Guy By The Name Of...
Brian Roberts.
I’d stay away from Griffey, as he is reportedly wanting his $16.5 2009 option exercised. That’s a lot. He may end up back in Seattle.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on May 9, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
.254/.341/.406
meh
my owner buys me the expensive cat food, but i'll just eat this dvd shrinkwrap and that bug over there
by dr stabbingworth on May 9, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that after a little over a month's worth of play that it's clear now Brian Roberts fixes a lot of perceived problems.
I call them “perceived” because I’m not sure I agree they are problems, but I have a feeling Lou has it in mind to “fix” these one way or another.
Perceived Problem 1: Soriano leading off – Roberts jumps in right there.
Perceived Problem 2: LH bats to break up the righties – Roberts fits in, well, not “right” there, but he switches the lineup up.
Perceived Problem 3: Middle IF Defense – if you send Theriot instead of Cedeno in a Roberts trade, Roberts-Cedeno defense will be better than Theriot-Fontenot.
The problems people thought we’d have by trading for Roberts aren’t looking so problematic –
Expected Problem 1: DeRosa is our 2B – well, Lou’s already moving him to a roving utility role, and partially to get ABs for Fontenot, a LH “bat.” Plus, Soto has supplanted DeRosa in the lineup as protection for the #5 hitter.
Epected Problem 2: We’d have to give up too much. Since Lou has given up on Felix Pie anyway (basically ignoring the #s and his play), Pie can go into this offer now. Other than Pie and Ceda, all our prospective trade pieces in this deal have seen their value go up.
So, here’s what I’d offer up:
Pie, Marquis, Theriot, Ceda, and E. Patterson
for
Roberts, D. Cabrera, and A. Huff
I’d rather get L. Scott, but I’m figuring this is a Marquis for Huff swap of bad contracts and that Huff’s bat will be worth more off the bench than Marquis’ arm in the rotation. I know Cabrera’s getting lucky with stranded runners, but his stuff is still good and I’d like to see if the Cubs can help him get it figured out. When no real aces are available, Cabrera is a guy who you might be able to turn into an ace.
by DGU on May 9, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All great points.
I wish you were GM right now.
by bluekoolaide on May 9, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont get that
While he brings up great points, all this was known by the Cubs hence why Roberts was such a big target.
Once again: good points, not trying to deny that.
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by Rudey on May 9, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do like the trade proposal
with the O’s. However Cabrera appears to be coming along just fine, and getting the idea of pitching. The Cubs might have to add another young arm in this deal. You are correct Cabrera is close to becoming an ace, and the O’s might be reluctant to part with him
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by Grockcubs on May 9, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good points...
my only objection is to take Theriot out and sub him for somebody else…not sure who though…somebody in A ball, that’s for sure. IMO, that trade w/out Theriot and omit Huff, is ok to me at this point.
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on May 10, 2008 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the O's take Theriot????
He’s in his late 20’s. Cedeno was the one in the originally rumored deal.
We’re not moving Theriot anywhere. Average 28 year old middle infielders don’t get moved for guys like Brian Roberts.
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by Bildo1805 on May 10, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Webb
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 9, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
are you joking?
Soto or Barrett… honestly? If barrett can handle a pitching staff, maybe I would take him….but he cant
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by SouthsideCUBSfan on May 9, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could you take that seriously lol
of course he was joking :p
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by Rudey on May 9, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kent Mercker
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on May 9, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually....
does it have to be limited to players? Nothing would make us better than swiping the Duncan/LaRussa braintrust. If I had to pick a player…probably Cesar Izturis. Or Lohse.
by Kansas25 on May 9, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I don’t know if many people noticed, but the A’s and Marlins have some really good bat boys and bat girls. I wouldn’t mind seeing them in miniature Cubs uniforms. They’re young and have a lot of potential, though. I don’t know what it would take to get them.
by Rev Gunia on May 10, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey
or Wang or Webb
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
by cubswgnrocks on May 9, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Griffey...
while not in the prime of his career, would still be a good pickup, and who wouldn’t want to have an 8-0 guy on the staff?
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
by cubswgnrocks on May 9, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is the likelihood that Griffey's combined offensive and defensive value
will be higher than Pie’s in October?
by DGU on May 9, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy
Hanley Ramirez.
God know what the Marlins would want, but it would probably be a hell of a lot. But the one thing that would make this possible is the fact that the Marlins (probably) won’t be able to sign for any substantial amount of time/money knowing their track record.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on May 9, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The marlins...
would never trade him, they are built around him.
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 9, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would they trade Hermida this year?
I don’t think they’re going to trade Hanley this year, either, but assuming the Cubs have given up on Pie and are determined to get a LH OF – Hermida’s the only one I can think of that I would be glad to see replacing Pie in our lineup.
by DGU on May 9, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were also built around Cabrera and Willis...
..and had no problem trading them as they neared FA.
Although I do agree, they arent going to trade him now…
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on May 9, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Hanley Ramirez isn’t going anywhere. He is already one of the top 10 players in baseball, yet nobody talks about him.
Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.
by MDBNIU on May 9, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gimme a break, plenty of people talk about him.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 10, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, sounds like the Marlins just signed him long term
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on May 10, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mickey Mantle...
...in his prime.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on May 9, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 9, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Webb
....but I’ll be perfectly happy with Rich Harden, assuming of course he is healthy starting with his activation today.
Lou, stop being obstinate...bat Soriano # 6.
by MDBNIU on May 9, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again...
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That takes on a new twist after the Derby, sadly.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on May 9, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know.
Still, it serves its purpose.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it doesn't.
I don’t follow horse racing, and I barely even know what happened there. My understanding is that a horse suffered an injury after the race and died. So it goes. It is a sad occurrence for obvious reasons.
To someone that doesn’t follow horse racing, this story barely contains information (in the sense of information theory). As long as humans have rode horses, horses have sometimes become fatally injured. In fact, all animals, including humans, break down under load. The case of horses is particularly difficult because the human, though training and the physical riding apparatus, has taken near-complete control of the animal’s decision-making process while being unable to tap into the sensory half of the nervous system. The rider making decisions can’t directly know how the horse’s heart, muscles, or joints are feeling. This inevitably can and has led to the deaths of horses. If human athletes with direct access to their own sensory feedback have pushed themselves to severe injury or death during competition, the rider of a horse couldn’t be expected to do any better.
Was the death of this horse in the Derby substantially different from the death of other horses throughout history (other than its being captured on television)? If not, there’s no new twist to the story at all. Perhaps it is cruel; unless the jockey or the horses trainers treated this horse unusually, then it is exactly as cruel as the entire modern practice of racing horses for sport. Even its sadness, I believe, is spread to some degree over the entire notion of riding horses, and even more so over the “equine condition”.
Was this horse beaten after its collapse? If not, it has nothing to do with the image posted. The imagery behind the metaphor, “beating a dead horse,” has always been of an abstractly brutal (abstractly because the dead horse presumably cannot feel the pain of being beaten—it is more a question of the equine and human conditions), yet pointless act. This is what gives the phrase its power. Our understanding of the metaphor of beating dead horses doesn’t change one bit because one horse died on the track, an uncommon but not unprecedented thing, although I might grant that it’s a tasteless thing to talk about for a while if (and only if) the horse was beaten after its death. Which I doubt, TV cameras and all.
by aldimond on May 10, 2008 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this is the longest and most intense...
...response to a funny picture post ever.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 10, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, well...
I always like to point out that there’s no reason after something bad happens that we have to walk on tiptoes around any mention of something that might be related.
It was late at night, and once I got through about the first paragraph and realized how pompous I sounded I figured I had to finish the whole thought…
by aldimond on May 10, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Henry Rowengartner is still available I would take him
Or I would take Brandon Webb, they are both great pitchers
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by ryanbrixenivy on May 9, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yu Darvish
Look him up
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on May 9, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd love Darvish.
However, unless he gets posted (a possibility) he’s about seven years away from free agency.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His posting price will blow away Daisuke's too.
n/t
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on May 9, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would, if they're willing to post him.
I’m guessing they won’t, at least not right away, because he may be the biggest star power guy in NPB right now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Kid Looks Sick...
... but $100M just to post would be crazy.
Jacque Jones is gone, and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!
by initram on May 9, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, thatd be pretty interesting though..
The Cubs first half Iranian/half japanese player, unless you count Jeff Blauser
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on May 9, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedrioa
from the Red Sox, even though they would never trade him. Ah hell throw in Papplebon,
Pedrioa and Papplebon for Marmol and DeRosa
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by Grockcubs on May 9, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
.... Jacoby Ellsbury would look pretty good in CF at Wrigley.
But they’re not trading him either.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight is always 20/20...
Josh Hamilton would patrol center for me…
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on May 10, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Hamilton
I was just thinking the same thing. Everyone was talking about a left-handed bat to put in the middle of the lineup so Kosuke could be put in the front of the order, and I immediately thought of him. On the plus side, he could play center, so Kosuke could stay in right where he wants to play. They wouldn’t trade him, though. They always seem to need pitching, though. There’s always hope.
by inukjim on May 10, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Syd Finch
We could use that 104mph fastball:)
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on May 9, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sidd Finch...
... the fictional pitcher invented by George Plimpton, threw a 168 MPH fastball.
We could use that too. :)
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 9, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That story in SI fooled a lot of people…and then, IIRC they ran a small note the next week that he had retired.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on May 9, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's exactly what they did.
It was one of the greatest April Fool pranks ever.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 10, 2008 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willie Mays Hays
and the Wild Thing!
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake Peavy
I can dream, can’t I?
Oh, and that one dude in Florida, swings a good bat…. Hanley Ramirez?
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on May 9, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait...
Getting picky on these two:
‘98 version Kerry Wood, continuing on with his career with the Cubs w/o needing Tommy John surgery.
‘03 durable version of Mark Prior who astoundingly, never makes a trip to the DL in his entire career (as a Cub).
The Time Is Now. [Chicago Cubs, '08]
by EJThunder on May 9, 2008 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2003 Mark Prior
I was salivating….
I was thinking about this the other day. Can you imagine how sick our rotatin would be without the concept of “injuries” If Mark Prior and Kerry Wood never get hurt and Z does his thing. We would have three aces and Ted Lilly with Ryan Dempster chilling at the eend.
God i hate texas pitches coaches who throw Kerry kor 500 pitches/
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by fischisgod on May 9, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without a doubt...
Johan Santana
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on May 10, 2008 12:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Craig Counsell, believe it or not
Although he bugs me because he reminds me of the gawky doofus who played bumbling private eye, Richie Brockleman, back in the seventies, the guy is a certified Cubs killer and would probably be worth five wins this year if he could be pried away from Milwaukee. I just looked up his numbers and they’re positively atrocious, but for some reason he always seems to deliver in the clutch against the Cubs. Therefore, it stands to reason that his presence on the team would probably prevent him from significantly contributing to at least two or three heartbreaking late inning losses. Since he’s also a versatile, savvy, fundamentally sound super sub type player who can play anywhere in the infield, he should be able to add another couple of wins just by playing heads up ball and competently handling whatever position he plays.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 10, 2008 2:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we could trade for the entire Milwaukee starting lineup
and option them to AAA. :D
2008: The year we put it all together.
by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost forgot
He definitely would be an upgrade over Mike Fontenot, who most likely would be the guy he would replace.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on May 10, 2008 2:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We used to have him.
His name was Kyle Farnsworth.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 10, 2008 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about
A-Rod?
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
by cubswgnrocks on May 10, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what about a trade that could happen
without giving up to much. we need another arm and we could use a real pitching coach to boot. this guy also could make any trade happen upon his word. Hall of Famer Greg Maddux!!
Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!
by cubsluver22 on May 10, 2008 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddux would never approve a trade...
... and the Padres would never ask him to go anywhere.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on May 10, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you know??
what he would approve?? he wouldnt come home to wrigley for one more legitimate chance at a ring?? i think if that bridge was crossed he would certainly ponder it. no disrespect but some of you on here are getting to where if its not your opinion then its wrong. I wasnt aware
the longer you posted here the closer to major league gm you got! is that how it is??
Go Cubbies Go!!!!!!
by cubsluver22 on May 10, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh is the Man!
I live here in Texas and get to see him play alot,he would look great in center field,power and speed,and a great teammate!Just how many homeruns does he hit in Wrigley???It goes to show that we should give second chances in life(unless its Edmonds,jerk!)anyways,he is a great player.Live and well in Texas
Grant Earnhart
by ernie87 on May 10, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The player I would most like to see on the Cubs is
Felix Pie.
by DGU on May 10, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LSA.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on May 10, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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