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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Braves, Tuesday 6/10, 7:05 CT

Atlanta Braves at Chicago Cubs, Jun 10, 2008 7:05 PM CDT



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Atlanta Braves
@ Chicago Cubs

Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008, 7:05 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Tom Glavine vs Ted Lilly

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

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This is a classic case of possible overconfidence. The Cubs have the NL's best home record (26-8). The Braves have the majors' worst road record (7-21). Atlanta is without their best player, Chipper Jones. No-brainer, right?

Well, that's why they play the games. The Cubs are hot and the Braves are not. Let's keep it that way.

The latest round of NL All-Star balloting was released today (link opens .pdf file). Three Cubs will start the ASG if the current trends keep up -- Geovany Soto, Alfonso Soriano and Kosuke Fukudome. Soriano is third among all vote-getters in the NL behind Chase Utley and Chipper Jones. I think the Cubs could have as many as three pitchers chosen -- Z, Ryan Dempster and Kerry Wood. Six All-Star reps -- the Cubs haven't had that many since... ever. Never happened before. Wouldn't that be a nice first?

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Tom Glavine
T. Glavine
Braves
5-5 W-L 2-2
5.23 ERA 4.47
69 SO 34
23 BB 29
13 HR 8
vs. Atl -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 5-5 13 13 0 0 0 0 72.1 77 45 42 13 23 69 5.23 1.38


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Tom Glavine 2-2 11 11 0 0 0 0 56.1 54 29 28 8 29 34 4.47 1.47

The last time we saw Tom Glavine, he was making history at Wrigley Field with his 300th career win in a Mets uniform last August. He's been middling this year; time for some right-handed-hitting Cubs like Aramis Ramirez (vs. Glavine: .480/.548/.920, 12-for-25, 2 doubles, 3 HR) and Alfonso Soriano (.400/.478/.600, 8-for-20, a double, a HR) to tee off on him.

The last time Ted Lilly faced the Braves, he got tossed in the first inning, supposedly for throwing at Edgar Renteria. The call was ridiculous; Renteria is long gone, now with the woebegotten Tigers. Serves him right for the fight he later picked with Mike Fontenot. The Brave he's faced most from his AL days is Mark Teixeira, who he's handled well, sort of: 4-for-20, but 2 HR. Lilly has a 6.17 career ERA vs. the Braves, but most of that was compiled in this 2003 interleague game when he was with the A's and gave up seven earned runs in four innings; the only Brave who played in that game who will play tonight is... Mark DeRosa, who'll be on our side.

Today's game is on PTV in Atlanta (whatever that is -- I have no idea!), WGN, EI, and the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment threads will post at 8:15 pm and 9:15 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 10, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SECOND!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 10, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want PAYBACK

for last year… when he got his 300th against us.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 10, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st and 2nd

reminds me of the guy here in Chicago who competed in a race up the Aon tower (several hundred competitors, 102 stories or something like that). He won, took the elevator down, ran up again and came in 1st AND 2nd.

by Emelie on Jun 10, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd?

Wow. He must have been some kind of fit to be able to do that!

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if that's the same guy..

who did that at the Oakbrook Terrace Towers a few years ago?...I believe he was a fireman. I remember thinking, no way that’s the same guy who passed me once already…lol..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it might be

the fireman part rings a bell. Whoever he is he’s a bit of a show off but you’ve gotta give him his props.

by Emelie on Jun 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure do..

At the time, I was running 5 and 10K’s every weekend but going up those stairs is a whole different ballgame. This dude was passing everyone like it was a sprint.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's extend the home winning streak

the way teams are playing at home it looks even more imperative to win at home. Each one of these counts, let’s keep it up all summer!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jun 10, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We might get more than 6

to the all-Star game. i agree with the 6 Al has mentioned, but D Lee, Aramis and The Riot deserve a chance to go as backups too.

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Jun 10, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Backups

DeRosa is second in 2B voting, although Dan Uggla should be—instead he’s 4th!

"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 10, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

D Lee is ahead of Pujols.. and Tejada is ahead of Hanley Ramirez…

and Kaz Matsui is getting votes…

by ecbc on Jun 10, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

Lee’s in a slump. Theriot is playing over his head. Ramirez is having an OK year by his standards.

But maybe one of them gets hot and can go.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 10, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrek has been in a slump for about a month....

Do you hear anything about an injury or anything else that might be hampering him, Al?

by crazymountain on Jun 10, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sucks!

I thought I would be getting my cable/internet today but it isn’t scheduled til tomorrow! Another night of pat and ron…

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 10, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel your pain

my net has been out since last Friday morning and won’t be fixed until this Friday. Life in cyber center land is rough.

by Emelie on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh!

I’m really sorry, that sucks.

I’m moving in August and am already freaking out that I won’t be able to watch Cubs games late in the season if I don’t have internet/cable hooked up!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonights game

is also on WGN. I’m stoked (out in Denver)

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 10, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

I had the post confused with another date. I’ll fix it. Today’s game IS on WGN.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 10, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Trachsel...

... DFA’d by Orioles.

No, I do NOT want him back. Just marking the end of an ex-Cub’s career. I assume he’ll retire.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 10, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PTV is...

Peachtree TV – It used to be TBS the Superstation, I think,

Re-branding FTW!!!

by Slim1256 on Jun 10, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of re-branding...

Peachtree – TV You Can’t Eat!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 10, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoping for some great

pitching from Lilly. If it’s 80 degrees there let’s hope the Cub bats are hot too.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not that it will matter in 3 hours...

but which way and how hard is the wind blowing right now?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A pointed out above

the winds are blowing out to center field 5 15 mph.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

515 mph?

just kidding. actually, with the storms that we’‘ve had ….

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh

I really screwed my comment up didn’t I? Should be 5 – 15 mph.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think everyone knew what you meant

I’m a smartass…it’s who I am. Couldn’t help it.

Plus, I was pretty sure you wouldn’t get upset. Looks like I was right :)

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not good

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 10, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trends shmends

Braves 8
Cubs 2

Book it.

by Mapmaker on Jun 10, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to be a fan.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the Cubs as much as anybody

But baseball trends seem to jump up and bite you.

by Mapmaker on Jun 10, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking...

... for whatever demented reason, that we’re going to lose tonight. Why? No idea – the odds seem “too much” in our favor? Dunno.

That said, I sure hope I’m wrong. I love being wrong about such things. :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just have

a better reason, that’s all.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh...

don’t be a dork? Stay in school?

Why would you come here and profess to be a cubs fan, and then “guarantee” a loss?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't mean to guarantee anything

But if it seemed like I did, it was technically BEFORE I professed my love of the Cubs.

Just sayin’...

by Mapmaker on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you said

“book it.”

Maybe, you should just move on from this unfortunate start.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be honest, that's why I replied to SWL

you probably didn’t mean to, but you did come across as a bit bluemikish…

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could have just said....

considering the odds being in our favor…you have a bad feeling about the outcome of the game tonight.

Same general idea…and nobody would have gotten the wrong idea.

Book it.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. I'll try harder next time.

I didn’t think it would cause such a ruckus. Just a feeling.

by Mapmaker on Jun 10, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

irony

on the sidebar in the google ads, there’s an ad selling the racist “horry cow” t-shirts…

by ecbc on Jun 10, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That pops up on my gmail account, too.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think those shirts are stupid,

but why are they racist? many asian people have trouble pronouncing “l” sounds. i’m not really sure why that is supposed to be funny or racist. it’s just how it is.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's just say

it plays on an unflattering stereotype of Asian-Americans and leave it at that.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess i just don’t understand what is flattering or unflattering about this. our ability to form particular sounds is shaped as we learn language in early youth. that’s not mean or flattering or whatever – it’s just a fact. i’m sure that there are lots of language sounds that would be difficult for me, as a native english speaker, to pick up. is that funny or racist too?

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fukudome found

them to be unflattering and doesn’t like them. To me his opinion counts a lot.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder why he is “unflattered”? if anything, it seems to show that the people who purchase these things are idiots. – which reflects on them and not him.

like i said, i think it’s a stupid shirt, i just don’t understand how having difficulty pronouncing an “L” sound is supposed to be insulting

the idea of free expression is only valuable if you believe in it even for things you don’t like.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a generalization

that was used to indicate that Asians were stupider than Caucasians.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess that is my point – if you think that pronouncing or not pronouncing a particular sound indicates stupidity, then you are the stupid one. (and just to be clear, i mean “you” in a general sense and not you in particular).

that is why i think the shirts are stupid – and only a stupid person would buy one.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's why it's called

racism.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

where does this shirt say anything about superiority?

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's implied.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is only implied if you accept the premise that not speaking “proper” english is a sign of inferiority. i do not.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the difficulty in picking up a sound isn't racist

the sweeping generalization is racist

I hesitate to use my China experience too much here for fear of coming off like “I played college baseball…”, but how many Asians do you actually know? The ones that I work with not only have no problem with pronouncing the “l” sound. In fact, there are plently of words in Mandarin that have that sound, including the words for six (pronounced like “lieu”), road (pronounced like “loo”) and a host of other common words.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

imagine the outcry in 2007 if a shirt had been made depicting a caricature of Soriano with a Carmen Miranda Headdress on and the words “Ole Cow!”

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too soon?

:D

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 10, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’ll have to get back to you about that after i have a chance to google a few thing…..

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“but how many Asians do you actually know?”
- the thing that got me thinking about this is that i know a chinese woman in my grad program who has trouble with “L” sounds – though i did have some friends from high school who were born in vietnam and they had no problems with “L” sounds. i would imagine that this is specific to particular languages or dialects – but i don’t know for sure.

i don’t think it is racist or a sweeping generalization to point out that people raised in a particular language group may have trouble picking up pronounciations from another language group after they grow up. i myself had a lot of problems with the “oooo” sound when i was taking french in high school – and that is a language that is relatively close to english.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pointing something out and mocking something

are two entirely different things

the shirt is mocking, as drew pointed out above—it implies a superiority, it’s arian nation crap, and it’s ugly

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well you are certainly right that it is ugly.

my first thought when i saw it was – that was exactly how harry used to pronounce it by the end of a 14 inning game.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the bear on the shirt obviously isn't drunk

with the equally offensive, slanted eyes, it is supposed to be Asian. it’s a charicature,and an unflattering one

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i understand that. it was just a joke. i remember harry being tanked in the extra inning games when i was a kid….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on second read i have to say that i don’t have any idea where “arian nation” comes into this…..

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, spell check

aryan. neo-nazi. ugly, evil stuff

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worries, i wasn’t trying to be spelling police. plus i’m happy to discuss the issue calmly – i don’t think either of us would ever buy the shirt either way.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I misread your post

and took it to mean that you didn’t know what I was saying. not that you were spelling police.

Don’t worry—I understood completely that you would never buy one of these. You asked what makes it racist, and we’re just trying to explain that. By definition, calling one race inferior is racist, and that is what those shirts imply.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by implying that asians can't speak

and are therefore stupid it implies white superiority. hence arian nation.

usually when you invoke nazi anything you lose, but this is correct.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why? i can’t speak japanese and i don’t think that means i’m dumb. why would not being able to speak english signify a lack of intelligence? the only way this can be infered if if someone believes that speaking english is a sign of superiority – which is clearly not true to any intelligent person…

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...untrue
speaking english is a sign of superiority

Harrelson and Morgan both speak english…and we all know what kind of people they are.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol. thanx for adding a bit of levity to the discussion….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but what if someone had a picture of you

making you look pasty-white, overweight, with a vacant look on your face while saying, “Konichiwa, partner!” and sold it on a shirt outside of where you worked, while trying to adjust to a country 6000 miles from home? what would you think, then?

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i get what you are saying, but if someone had that shirt with me on it i would laugh my ass off – especially if i was wearing a really big cowboy hat!

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

racists are stupid

i’m not implying anything and don’t see why you don’t see the racism in this, but whatever. we agree: this shirt is awful and needs to be called out when seen, right?

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, my reaction to seeing the shirt on an actual person would probably be to either laugh at them or just ignore them depending on my mood. – i do agree that it is a stupid shirt, but i think all the attention paid to it gives it far more weight than it deserves.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but ignoring it doesn't make it go away

and its more the attitude behind the shirt (and the things about it that make you laugh) that are bothersome to me.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please don’t misunderstand – it is the moron who finds the shirt funny and plunks down his or her cash to proudly wear it in public that i am laughing at – not the shirt itself.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay

we’re on the same page. :-)

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO, no

they aren’t disrespectful (other than the ones that have the same logo as the shirt on them).

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not?

does every japanese play do karate?

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See I don't equate

headband with karate. I see the headband more as a symbol of the Japanese culture. To me, the fans wearing the headbands that say Fukudome on them is more of a show of support, like wearing a baseball jersey or hat, etc. It’s just using a piece of the Japanese culture to show your support for a Japanese player

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno I'm kinda mixed on them

but its more the MOTIVATION behind the wearing of things that causes the racism. ::shrug:: I dunno. Not an expert, or anything.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am from texas and if i was a player and i saw

alot of people with a cowboy hat on with my last name i would be a little up set with that

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i lived in texas for 8 years and i know lots of people who would be wholeheartedly flattered by having people all over the country wear that….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but not all

a couple of people does not make up the mass, you have to know the person

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure, everyone is different, but lots of people see cowboy hats as connected with texas heritage and they are proud and thrilled to see that heritage extolled by others. – i have no idea if the same thing applies to the headbands for japanese people.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it start with the hat

then the next thing you know everyone drives trucks and lives on a ranch and herds cattle and so

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with that. the headband or shirt is not racist – perhaps the person is.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with you

it is the person and the person might not get it

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC Dragonsfanatic

says they wear headbands in Japan if so the answer is no, not the same as the shirt

by Emelie on Jun 10, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s good to know. i was curious about this….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i every japanese has a camera ....

and every russian is in the mob … etc

is that the way it works

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think that is what is being said – just that people actually wear headbands in japan and that is is not just a stereotype – much like in texas where there is the stereotype of everyone wearing cowboy hats and there is the reality that you do see them actually worn by lots of people (but not everyone of course – and it depends where in texas you live)

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i understand

The shirt makes you a racist and the headband does not, the headband is just a stereotype – the stereotype might be just as bad

That is my opinion,

some people don’t know that they are offending others and some do it just to do it, but I think as a society we are be coming more and more sensitive and some times that is good and sometimes not so good, the shirts and headbands should be gone unless Dome is ok with them, and if people are wearing them in respect and not making fun of the fact that he is from Japan, and I think most people are wearing to show there support and there are a few bad apples out there

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

does the headband have the same graphics as the shirt? if so then i agree that they should be treated the same, but i thought the headband had a japanese sun and some japanese writing. i could be wrong. i’ve never looked at them that closely.

i do disagree that dome should have any input as to what people are allowed to wear to games though….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think we should end this topic

our opinions are a little different, but we both agree the shirt is no good

right?

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i certainly don’t want one.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coolie hats...

Is that racist…or just stupid?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of a cone-shaped hat...

I’ve seen them at Wrigley….just looks really dumb to me…I don’t even know if they wear them in Japan or not.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i googled it, what someone would wear in

a rice field (saying with out being racist)

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like this one...

Photobucket

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely a good call for sitting in the sun….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one's trying to argue

that the people who sell and/or buy these shirts are smart.

We’re arguing that the shirts themselves are offensive.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they aren't pointing out

the fact that people of Asian decent have trouble with “L” sounds. They are making fun of that fact. While the shirt isn’t blatantly stating that all Asians can’t pronounce the letter “l”, the shirt is implying as much, which is a sweeping generalization about Asians, which is racist.

Regardless, it is completely insensitive and shouldn’t be tolerated in our society.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely worth being called out.

agree completely.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have to disagree with the last half of your last sentence. this should absolutely be tolerated in our society even if we don’t like it. that is what freedom of expression is all about.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have the freedom to express whatever you want

but that doesn’t mean you get a free pass. i’m not calling for it to be banned, but it should be called out for the attitude it has behind it.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Despicable

A black eye for Bleedcubbieblue.com. This add besmirches the good reputation of this blog.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know that those ADs

are completely outside of Al’s control don’t you?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Lighten up, Francis. SB Nation doesn’t even control the contents of the adverts, much less Al.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

for the “Stripes” reference..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I've finally found

my on-hand reply to him. Because it’s so freakin’ obvious.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Controlling the content of the adverts...

It’s probably pointless posting this now—considering the age and length of the comment section, but Al does have some control over which ads show up on this site through Google Adsense, and I believe he has already done something to block one such ad.

Since I can’t see which ad sparked this thread, I don’t know if it’s the same ads or another popping up. But something CAN be done if Al knows the link that the ad is displaying. I’ll leave it to Al to state whether he wants us to be the ad watchdogs for him.

by jbau on Jun 11, 2008 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Glavine

Probably will be the last time we ever see Tom Glavine go up against the Cubs. Hope his last memory of the Cubs is a “L”. Very fortitious to not have to face Chip Chip Chipper Jones.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"fortitious"?

How voluptuous.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol! i had to sound that one out for a second and then i couldn’t stop laughing!

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

glamargorgeous.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chipper Jones?

You mean Larry?

LARRRRRY…....... LARRRRRRRRRRRRY

by salparadise23 on Jun 10, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hilarious when the Met fans start that chant!

I laugh my ass off when I hear it on TV.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be a glaring omission for Marmol not to make the NL All Stars

He has the 2nd best stats in the league and puh-lenty of IP to his credit. Better than Wood. The stupid closer role is just plain over-rated. Besides, wouldn’t it be great to see him enter the game in a bases-loaded jam and strike out Manny et al to escape it?

by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 10, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How Many Non-Closers Are All-Stars?

Marmol has been outstanding this season for the Cubs. I would like to see him be an All-Star. I’m afraid he won’t get picked because he’s not the “closer”. I know he has closed some games, but he’s not the primary “closer”. I think set-up guys need to get more consideration for the ASG.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jun 10, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very, very few

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dempster and Wood?

To the All Star game ahead of Marmol? Is that really likely?
Admittedly I’m not really up on what the deciding factors usually are, but Dempster sounds a surprising choice any way you look at it. Yes he’s pitched well these last couple of months, but what else does he have in his favour?

I’m not having a go at Dempster here, either. I like him and hope he continues to pitch well. Just can’t see why he would be in with a shout for All Star selection ahead of someone like Marmol.

I’m delighted to see Soto and Fukudome getting so many votes though.

by simonuk on Jun 10, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Tigers Dontrelle Willis down to Class A today. Ouch… Class A…

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 10, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rehab?

Assignment?

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don' t think so

he already did one

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he pitched yesterday...

got lit up bigtime…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dombrowski's quote

“Our objective is to get Dontrelle back to being Dontrelle,” Tigers president and general manager Dave Dombrowski said at a pregame press conference. “We don’t want to put a timeframe on this; we want to get it right. The arm strength is still there on occasion, the breaking ball is still there, but we want to get him back to being comfortable throwing strikes.”

(courtesy detroittigers.com)

Dombrowski’s an idiot.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he walked 5 in less than 2 innings

but what killed me watching that game was that he struck out 2! seriously, the guy cannot find the plate WTF are you doing swinging?

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Rich Hill....

...but we only sent him down to AAA. I’d be a lil peeved if I was Dontrelle and only got the above explanation from Dombrowski.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be peeved too

but he needs to go down and completely retool his delivery and get his knee healthy, probably better to do that in A than in AAA…

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he has to completely change his delivery...

....after so many years in the majors, they’re in big trouble.

I’ve never understand the A ball assignments for rehab. Always thought they’d want them to face tougher competition. Most of the times it’s more about the mechanics and testing an injury I guess.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His delivery is a mess

Hershizer was breaking him down during the game and he’s so inconsistent with his movements that its no surprise he can’t find the plate. Sad though because when he’s on, he’s good.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes.

Class A? Wow.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was just in Detroit

Know what they are sayin about the Tigers? That the roster is “too Latino.” That and it’s old and real bad defensively outside of Curtis Granderson and Placido Polanco. Dave Dombrowski seriously out-thought himself. It will take years to unravel that mess.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Renteria...

...what I remember from that game that Lilly got tossed was that Renteria went in hard to 2nd base (maybe the same inning he got hit) without even a small attempt at actually sliding, and the umps did nothing. It was like Renteria was pissed that he got thrown at and yet still wanted “payback” even though our starting pitcher got ridiciously tossed. I hate that guy.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not on Extra Innings

For the first time this year (I think), a weeknight game (not including Fridays) is not on extra innings or on ESPN. Tonight’s game is only available on the computer for those of us w/o WGN. It’s terrible.

by ethicsmax on Jun 10, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought WGN

was everywhere?

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

...you’re starting early tonight, Shanghai. LOL.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs lineup via ESPN 1000

Soriano
Theriot
Lee
ARam
Soto
Dome
DeRo
Reed Johnson
Lilly – needs to start hitting to fit in with the other starters! ;)

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Jun 10, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would have preferred an extra day off for the struggling Derrek Lee

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee does not share

your pessimism.

So, when they’re winning, you’re going to be posting here, enjoying the win, right, BlueMike?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Drew...

MDBNIU is a Cubs fan…he’s kinda smug and like to push our buttons…but he does genuinely seem to want the Cubs to win. He just has drastically different ideas about what would make them better and win more.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't agree

and if it were true, he’d be here in the winning game threads cheering with us. The only times I’ve ever seen him in a game thread is when something goes wrong.

And really. “kinda” smug? He’s smuggier and a smug made out of high-quality smug composite.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough...

I understand where you’re coming from.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has a chance to turn it around

any day there’s a game. He can come hang out with us and have fun.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the Simpsons Comic-Book-Guy

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jun 10, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not sure that will help, he needs to hit his way out of this..

...He plays 155+ a year and historically gets hot in June.

Hopefully Monday did it…

Felix Pie must play everyday!

by JB 23 on Jun 10, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His bat was awfully slow on the West Coast trip

I would be inclined to give him two full days off to get rejuvenated hopefully. I also would think about flipping him Kosuke in the lineup for a few days.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee's defense is too valuable to take him out

especially without another legit 1B on the bench. I like Blanco, but behind the dish not on 1B.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't go moving

players like D. Lee & Kosuke around willy-nilly. His bat hasn’t been slow- he hasn’t been seeing the ball well. Night game = white ball. Breakout tonight for D. Lee.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. Lee

D. Lee will be fine. He always hits well at home. I say this because D. Lee is such a professional hitter that it’s only a matter of time. He just hasn’t been seeing the ball well. I see that changing, likely tonight…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 10, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome 6?

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More likely b/c

we are facing a lefty so Dome wouldn’t protect Rami as well as Soto, a righty

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glavine is a lefty

And an off-speed throwing lefty. I’m guessing that was the reason for Lou’s decision.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 10, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was really hoping

Ronny would get another shot after the awfulness of Riot last time…

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would like to see DeRo stay #2 for awhile...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't go wrong with either

Theriot or DeRo in the 2 slot…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Dero did so well there, he could have stayed a little bit longer

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got done typing that

and all I could think of was “Dirty Dancing”

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 10, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

i like a little pop up there… not to mention a little more heady on the basepaths.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

TWSS :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shuddup!

LOL.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

soto in 5 hole?

really… i know he’s hitting well but what about mixing the lineup with lefties?

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 10, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

last year....

i went to the game last year where Lilly was tossed…. was excited since sori had hit 3 HR’s the night b4. i will agree with Al that the call was completely ridiculous.

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 10, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay I'm off to 4-H.

Why it has to go on during my Cubs time, I dunno, but I promised. Hold down the fort!! GO CUBBIES!!

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 10, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-H

I didn’t know that still was going on. You from Iowa?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 10, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think cubbiegirl

...is from Indiana. And, yeah, 4-H is still big in this state.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as there are County Fairs in the Midwest...

4-H will be around. LOL.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just excited...

...to hear Len and BB again. Did I read where we’re on ESPN tomorrow night again?

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN it is.

Just checked their website and it looks like we’ll be unlucky enough to listen to Steve Phillips incoherent ramblings all evening.

by Scrapptastic on Jun 10, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this on EPSN radio?

I got the audio package from MLB with Pat and Ron, Ron is a riot sometimes, they have good stories and Ron always for gets what he is saying, funny guys

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can always hear cubs announcers on the mlb audio package. i’ve had it for years. it’s a really good deal. (this year i got mlb.tv for the first time)

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my buddy got the gameday as well

and says it is ok, but i like pat and ron

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the tv package includes the audio feeds too so i can watch the games or listen to pat and ron. i live in denver these day and without the internet i would have serious cubbie withdrawls…

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I’m in Salt Lake and the internet is awesome for keeping up with my cubbies.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wish the cubs would play more games outside of there division

at least 2 away series in places like DC, Col, ATL, places like that, i only get 3 games a year here in DC

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah!

they only played 2 games in denver this year and they’re already over….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i could drive to NY or Philly

but dealing with Philly fans, I heard, are kind of crazy, NY i am not so sure about

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we drove down to texas to see em in interleague last year. you are lucky to at least have some options. when i lived in cleveland we would go to pittburgh and cincinati to see games….. you should go to philly. visiting new parks is fun. ... denver is cool but too far from everyplace else as far as baseball goes…

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 10, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i might have to try it out

i am trying to make plans for the Yanks and then the Mets in a 2 day span, but they dont play many home games in the same day together

by brownbuddha on Jun 10, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's also

on CSN tomorrow night too. Len & Bob for me.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wewt!

and me!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Playing for Peanuts

has anyone seen the Playing for Peanuts series on CSN? I caught one episode and have the series set to record on the DVR. It follows the South Georgia Peanuts minor league team in a relatively cinema verite way. First episode wasn’t bad.

by Emelie on Jun 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've caught a little of the first episode....

Wally Backman as the manager is pretty interesting, considering he’s pretty much been banished from the major leagues. I think I heard/read somewhere that he actually quits as manager for that team.

I like reality shows and I like baseball, so I’m hoping it turns out good.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have they shown

ANYTHING beyond the first two episodes? I really do want to watch it, but I have something like five recordings of each of the first two episodes, and nothing else.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starting pitcher issue solved

O’s have DFA’d Traschel. Who needs CC, Hardin Maddux etc. when Traschel is available
This has probably already been posted but those of us who have to work during the day
can’t always go through the 1500 posts we miss between 9 and 5.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Trachsel

and will always appreciate his career, but he is so not what the Cubbies need right now. I’d take Maddux ahead of Trachsel.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um I don't like Traschel actually

I was kidding. There are fans and players everywhere who would cheer the retirement
of ” the human rain delay”.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um....I think I speak for everyone when I say

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha ha ha ha

+ 1 (at least). Great pic.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes it was mentioned...

and yes I did read all 15,000 posts after work. I took a speed reading course in college. My scrolling mouse can barely keep up. I rock. lol j/k ANYWAY, what do you think about AJ Burnett? I keep hearing his name mentioned. CC would be awesome, as would Hardin, but Cleveland won’t negotiate and you know Oakland will want more from our system than Hendry is willing to give….. so that leaves AJ. I’m ok with any of them.

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Jun 10, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heyman/SI

Did anyone catch John Heyman’s piece about the Phillies? He describes Utley and Rollins as “two great gamers, gritty grinders”.

I thought we had a monopoly on those?

by leothelip on Jun 10, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes we do!

that’s copywright infringement or something. I’m calling my brother, he’s an attorney. This will not go unpunished. How dare him use the words “gritty” and “grinders” in the same sentence. Let’s see how Heyman ‘grinds’ out a ‘gritty’ court proceeding. Dirty thieves…. :-)

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Jun 10, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry we only hold copyright on "scrappy"

“scrappyness” ” scrappy-do” and 1100 other variations. I think Philadelpia does in fact
have the copyright on “grinders” but preferably ones stuffed with lunch meats. Gritty is in
the public domain.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets the judge decide...

i’m sure the judge won’t mind another frivolous lawsuit based entirely on the communications contained in an online sports blog. If some lady can spill hot coffee in her lap and make a million bucks, i’m sure we can get a couple of free tix or something out of this. lol

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Jun 10, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to get too political

But the “hot coffee” story is one of those boogymen from business to attack what they
claim was frivolous lawsuits. The facts of the face where that the McDonald’s in question
made coffee at a tempature that burned skin despite being REPEATEDLY warned it was
dangerous ( they said people took it out and waited for it to cool) an ederly woman who spilled a cup on her lap spent a week in the hospital with her burns.
You can google many stories re the facts in the case
Here is one http://www.vanfirm.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She should hire Jackie Chiles.

:)

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did I tell you to use the balm?

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where the hell did you get that damm balm anyway?

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing he didn't call them "Scrappy".

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aren't those guys a bit good to be Scrappy?

I thought Scrappy was the converse of Pesky. If a scrappy guy plays against you, you call him Pesky. If a Pesky guy plays for you, you call him Scrappy. Isn’t that how it works? Those two guys are maybe a bit too good to be earmarked as merely Pesky.

by simonuk on Jun 10, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else watching Peachtree right now

it is just a live shot of wrigley with no commentators here in Nashville on comcast… pretty cool

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a "throwback game"....

supposedly they’re going to broadcast it like it’s a 1940 broadcast.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Black and White?

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

At 7:00 Chip and Joe are now on… Chip says Cubs are dominate at home.

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throwback game..

is thursday? that should be really cool! Len and Bob are supposed to be in costume….old Boston Brave unis and 40’s Cub unis…

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see that!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, its in HD

They are doing the lineup announcements right now. I wish ESPN and Fox would do the whole game like this (no announcers or commercials)

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

time for cubs baseball! :)

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good umpiring crew.

DeMuth and Eddings are among the best in the business, IMO.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Vinny castilla is responsible for about 20 of those, all by himself.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Escobar walks... :(

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1rst and third no outs.. come on cubbies

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um, Ted, fix yourself.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the soundtrack to the accompanying MONTAGE! Because for that kinda thing, you’re gonna need a montage. Even Rocky had a montage.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 10, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Earlier Q on why not on EI

“Peachtree” doesn’t offer Braves games up to EI. There’s no Comcast telecast tonight, since the game is on WGN. (and WGN America) Therefore—nothing for EI to use.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 10, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually....

I live in South Carolina and have EI….
I have the usual WGN feed on WGN and also the Peachtree TV feed on EI.
I”ve had the Peachtree feed on EI (as well as in the regular spot in my satellite sports channels) all season.

by South Carolina Cub on Jun 10, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

K! no get the DP

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big K for Ted!

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

er... now get the DP

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

same here....just dumped him and picked up Bruce..

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

K!!!

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh, Ted's got that straight change working now.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sigh.... now that was a shot..... darn....

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

Why did he get warned?

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lilly is awful

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Were you saying that last week

When he shut down the Padres? (Yeah, I know the Cubs lost, but still …)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 10, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st pitch after the homer...

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but still...

That hurts Glavine, though. He really likes to work inside to LH’ers.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

I don’t think he was even throwing at him….seemed like a pretty slow pitch..

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, just a curve that got away.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

that would have hit him square in the head if he hadn’t moved. I’ve seen faster though

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now they've pushed me over the edge..

$%%^#%#%%#!!!!

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good start

crap!

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 10, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, it was

this Norton.

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Jun 10, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing?

Come on!

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Jun 10, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got to be kidding me....

I feel like every time Lilly starts he gives up a HR in the first inning, I’ve almost accepted that it’s a give in at this point.

by medward4 on Jun 10, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

I really hope that traffic just kept me from missing the bad stuff. Looks like the top of the first was brutal.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it was no fun.....

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

:(

I see that. Grrr.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

way to go soriano....

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes the no-hitter...

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice start!

Let’s get those runs back!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right after Norton's HR,

Lilly sailed a pitch at the head of the next batter. Eddings came out right away and issued warnings to both benches. If he deems that either team is intentionally throwing inside, the manager and the pitcher are automatically ejected.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dude.

Woah. Thanks for the update.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SOB

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh......

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he has a low baseball IQ – soriano

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he's a great player

Just not a very smart one. :(

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give it up.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a personal problem, then.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-0???

WHAT HAPPENED?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dood.

:(

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was the count

on the HR?

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, I can see

you’re going to be bright and cheery today.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im a realist… and Lilly really stinks…

The cubs need a front line starter

We cant go Z,Dempster & Lilly in the playoffs again

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yawn.

BlueMike clone.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again?

We didn’t go Z, Demp and Lilly last year. So it’s not again.

Another starter could help, I don’t disagree. But it’s June.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-run jack..
5 hitter

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on lilly!!!!

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ted! WTF!

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So only you can say bad things about Lilly

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you can, too.

But it’s the juvenile, whiny tone that doesn’t play well….though your username doesn’t exactly exude maturity, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im sorry, Gary Varsho is so refined….

So Ted WTF isnt whiny?

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lilly is getting....

JACKED all over the park

by medward4 on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh dude.

I’m starting to worry about how many innings we can get out of Lilly tonight…he looks really off.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he can

get through these two innings and then settle in and go for 6 innings. Hope so any way.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lilly is sucking..

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looks like the bullpen gets work tonight....

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves are 2-10 on squeeze plays...

But they’ve attempted 10 SQUEEZE PLAYS!

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice snag by Theriot!

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

theriot!!!!! good job

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The HR is killing Lilly this year...

His WHIP isn’t awful, but that’s 14 HR and we’re barely in June. It’s been a tough year for him so far.

by SouthernCub on Jun 10, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know..

his G/F ratio?...curious…

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

65 GB/107 FB. Not good.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks...

thought it might be like that..

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since the game sucks

Check out this creepy listing on craig’s list
Jeez I hope Cubs security is guarding the Braves bullpen
sale-715232560@craigslist.org

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

um, this is an e-mail link...

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 10, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's going on with the game?

GameDay is frozen listing the bottom of the first.

by tootle on Jun 10, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man on thrid two out

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

top of 2nd

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use the ESPN Scoreboard

It is working.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 10, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

K!!!!!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man, it is quiet in wrigley..... very unusual

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll step it up.

We’ll get a rally going and get to Glavine. It’s still really early. I have faith. We get it done at home.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

High strike not in play tonight...

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done, Ted!

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

K!!! Lilly get sout of inning

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good K

maybe he’s settling down.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4 I think

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

four, I think

two in the first, two in the second.

I’ll be glad if he keeps the Braves to the three they have, and goes 6. 7 would be fantastic.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got out of it

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow nice job lilly

maybe we can start something

by grifdog on Jun 10, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

Not capitalizing on a lead off triple, awesome.

Let’s get those bats going!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's worse?

Watching Ted in the first when he’s not on his game or watching the “Farmer Wants A Wife” commercial on WGN. Hmmmm…

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Farmer wants a wife.

Hands down. Lilly can get better, that never will.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The farmer...

doesn’t have much to choose from IMO…

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check these out

CHICAGO CUBS Inspired Wedding Garter Set. Hill-eyre-ious!

Did he just say funky butt-loving?

by Louie on Jun 10, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude.

If I ever get married, I’m totally getting one of those.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha...

Sexaaaaay!

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rammy with a walk.

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff WALK!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk.......

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice hit for SOTO!!!

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

way to go Soto... on 1rst and third. no one out

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-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that's a really long single.

Nice knock for Derosa

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by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*Soto

agh.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey group--

Just got in, and things look ugly alrady…

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we need a fukuhomer

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lets see the bail and whale work today

by Reed's Johnson on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GEO!!!!!!

Runners at the corners! Let’s goe DOME!!!!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Dome!

Hit it here!

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a strike, Doug.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah.... fuku... 3-1

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dome comes through!

take THAT, ump!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lilly is makin' me sick!!!

sarcasm
does Lilly have any minor league options left… maybe we should option him down like the Tigers did with Willis today, if he does!!!!
sarcasm

Seriously though he needs to get his act together or we should get someone else in here to take his place in the rotation….. as much as I like Lieber I think he serves us better out of the ‘pen and we need to find another starter who is capable of being an above average starter.

by DvdD on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-1 FOLKS!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clever hit

He knew outside fastball is coming

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup...

Glavine is going to work predominantly on the outside corner. It’s best to go the other way with him.

by SouthernCub on Jun 10, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Brenly said he spent most of his BP practicing that.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so Gary I hear you're having trouble

with your TPS reports…

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Love the Tim the Sorcerer avatar, btw.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ty

time to lob the Holy Hand Grenade into the midst of the Braves!

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That it may blow mine enemies to tiny bits,

in thy mercy

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

you guys have wider outside zone than Japanese one….

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DOME!!!

Nice job! Let’s keep it going, knock Glavine around a bit.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fook yeah!

Beyond ThunderDome!!

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DEROSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice knock, Mark!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yay!!! bases loaded!!!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice! DeRO!

maybe they should have sent Geo, tho…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases loaded no

outs come on Reed…bring them home.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Derosa massacred that pitch.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep taking him the other way

he is going to try to pound that outside stuff…

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

slammer time

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This might sound weird...

...but NOW I’m worried.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DERO!

Nice. Let’s keep the rally going. I’d almost prefer a double here to a home run. Keep runners on and just light up glavine.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sac fly

geo needs oxygen asap

by grifdog on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good sacrifice... 3-2

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-2!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to get 'em Reed!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job.

Let’s get some more!!!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty slow for me, too.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not

too bad for me.

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can Lilly lay down the bunt?

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Glavine is a hard pitcher to bunt off of...

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice.

good sac fly for Reed.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good bunt by Ted

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good bunt.. he did get it down!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GREAT bunt!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG!

we execute a sac bunt with runners on 1st and 2nd successfully? is someone recording this?

by grifdog on Jun 10, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think NFL Films is

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

walking soriano

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ill take a walk on soriano

to get to theriot… less chance of a strikeout, a good base hit hitter coming up

"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool - Ego stroke for Sori

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

walking Soriano

if Riot sprays one of his patented into-right-field singles, they’re really going to regret that.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude.

Please let us make them pay for this Int. Walk. Please. Get mad Theriot!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on Theriot... drop one in

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Make 'em pay, Ryan!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looked a bit low....

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I know theriot is short but come on

by grifdog on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd also take a walk here...

Glavine walking in a run would be awesome.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF ON THAT CALL?!?!?!?

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That call was ridiculous.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The most under appreciated player on the cubs

when he deserves credit he doesnt get it, when he screws up, Cubs nation is all about insulting out man… LETS DO IT RIOT!

"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 10, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn why did he swing.... shoot

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-2!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Full count!!!!!!!!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

full count... come on theriot

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

automatic start

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DAMN

"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 10, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

poop

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Jun 10, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gave it a ride.....

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn. Great inning for the lads, though!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep. comebacks = character. Methusaleh Glavine 47 pitches

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah.

30 pitches for Glavine that inning though. Nicely done.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now Lilly, hold em.....

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Line drive, Riot

Not a lazy flyball. Mow em down, Ted.

by Itchy on Jun 10, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

these low called strikes...

wow.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this zone is weird.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing I want to point out...

...is that the camera angle isn’t fully squared up with the plate – it’s like looking at the speedometer from the passenger seat instead of the driver’s seat. There’s an optical illusion involved when you’re trying to call balls and strikes off the TV – a very subtle one, I should add.

by cwyers on Jun 10, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but it's pretty

easy to see the catcher’s mitt touch the ground…..

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that

but those low strikes are being called around the shins.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, give the ump some credit

He’s calling the same BULLS**T strikes for both pitchers.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good pitch!!!! K

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

K number five!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

K number SIX!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

holy crap another K

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we need an early overflow thread

this is getting crazy…. Do we have a lot of large files in this thread?

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8:15 is when it comes up.

we can handle it.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8:15 ....

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

out of the inning... good job Lilly!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GOOD INNING!

nice going, Uncle Ted!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if he keeps this up

he’ll have 14 more Ks! that would be a 20K game!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zone is so wide

Especially for lower…

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The dude on that airplane in the commercial?

Reminds me of trying to watch a game at Wrigley. (meant in the nicest possible way) :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That HR was killer,

But Lilly has been okay tonight, he’s getting K’s, he stopped them cold with a lead off triple. The score doesn’t reflect how he’s actually done.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

if he can come out and shut them down in this inning, I’m going to call it a good come-back for him.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TIE GAME!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DLEE!!!!!

3-3!!!!!!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee smoked that one!!! HR

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

New game

way to go DLee

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Back? Hope so!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

monster homer

to tie

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DEEEEEEEEEEE LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CRUSHED

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SHWING!

man, would be great if he is “back”. YES!!!

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok.

I will go ahead and take this moment to remind you all that BlueMike wanted Lee to have this game off.

by cwyers on Jun 10, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing when Lee hit it....:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha ha

Nicely done. I had forgotten that.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

BM knows all there is to know about baseball…he did play in college. ;-)

by sue369 on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he says...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Lou reads this blog

so he knows quite clearly what NOT to do.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That left the park SO fast. Totally crushed.

Slump buster HR?

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we'll see

but I’m glad he hit it.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Beating up on Glavine would make my night.

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now he walks Aramis.... evil grin

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Old Man Glavine sez:

“You Cubs get off my lawn!!”

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aramis on second, one out

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Dome!

long ball!

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gee - why not call THAT A STRIKE TOO?!?!?

Sheesh.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Dome

Let’s take the lead!

by slcathena on Jun 10, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cmon!

I don’t care how good this guy is, the strike zone is NOT THAT BIG.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

more like

how good this guy used to be…

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aramis on third, two out....

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Caught that one "Maddux Style"

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on De Ro

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

indeed

he’s having a career year.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping Lou would keep him in the 2 hole for awhile...

I think he was lobbying for it too….saying after the Sunday game how nice it was to see all those fastballs….

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRo must be thinking

“I go 3 for 5 last game and get dropped 5 places in the order?”

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BB

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Jun 10, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk... 1rst and third....

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looks like

the patience is back.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Classic pitch around Chip says

and TWSS to beat everyone to it…

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

bloop for Reed, Cubs LEAD, 4-3!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-3 Cubs... go Reed!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CUBS LEAD!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reed!!!!!!!!!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now Lilly HOLD EM!!!!!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

two per inning

will do nicely.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes! :)

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I just ask...

...what in THE HELL is “Superior Drinkability”?

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've wondered that for some time now....

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's what guys' beer has...

whose cars have superior driveability and whose torque wrenches have superior torqueability

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if you keep Viagra in your locker...

like Roger Clemens did then you have xxxxxxability?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Black, plain, no red in the numbers...

.....I think they’re awful. Allmost as bad as Oakland’s all black get up.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's wilting under the pressure of Reed's mounting lead in the SLG race...

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 out!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE catch

Soriano!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shocked!

SHOCKED I AM…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at Glavine

He got an extra foot on the outside corner and got greedy….he’s just pounding it against lefties now

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by RightFieldSucks on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I remember Larry Bowa telling Lucy that the team could live off his thigns for years…

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great catch!!!!!!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 10, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reed with a nice snag!

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 10, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah boy!!

Way to go Johnson… nice catch!!

by LT on Jun 10, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

W O W

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 10, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Great catch!

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it's the billy-goat

goatee, it’s dreamy…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was pretty cool.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

REED MOTHA FUGGIN JOHNSON

he’s good at playing centerfield

by grifdog on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If I had iPhone 2.0 and the new MLB thingy...

...I could instantly watch that catch over and over on my iPhone.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 10, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know...

we’re pretty solid defensively in Center field.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 10, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought I missed Pie...

...and I still do (a bit), but apparently he’s not doin so hot in the minors… :(

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 10, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the best defensive player in the organization currently.

It would help a lot if he would start showing the team something with the bat as well.

by cwyers on Jun 10, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply