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Atlanta Braves at Chicago Cubs, Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT



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Atlanta Braves
@ Chicago Cubs

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008, 1:20 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Tim Hudson vs Carlos Zambrano

Partly cloudy with a 50-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing out to left field at 10-20 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

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Today will be the first "Throwback Day" at Wrigley Field. The Cubs have decided to go with 1948 as the throwback year, despite the fact that '48 was one of their worst seasons; they went 64-90 and finished last for the first time since 1948, finishing 27.5 games out of first place.

There are other reasons for choosing '48 -- primarily WGN, as this is their 60th anniversary and thus, also the 60th anniversary of televised Cubs baseball. WGN will celebrate the occasion:

The game should be a treat for TV viewers, who can watch the first two innings in black and white with fewer camera angles. The telecast will try to go without a center-field camera and use basic graphics at the start, and then add a camera or another technical advancement as the game progresses. Commentators Len Kasper and Bob Brenly will don appropriate 1948 garb in the booth.
The 1948 Braves won the NL pennant for the first time since 1914. Let's hope these teams remember their 2008 roles, not those from 60 years ago. The weather may also be a factor:

Today: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 89. South wind around 15 mph.

Tonight: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 68. South southwest wind between 10 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
C. Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Tim Hudson
T.
Hudson

Braves
8-2 W-L 7-4
3.01 ERA 2.86
63 SO 54
29 BB 23
6 HR 7
vs. Atl -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Zambrano 8-2 14 14 0 0 0 0 92.2 90 32 31 6 29 63 3.01 1.28


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Tim Hudson 7-4 14 14 1 1 0 0 91.1 81 32 29 7 23 54 2.86 1.14

This wasn't done deliberately for the throwback day, but we have lucked into one of those old-fashioned pitching matchups, between the teams' aces. Apart from Jair Jurrjens, who got scratched from last night's game, Tim Hudson has been the Braves' best pitcher all year. The Cubs hit him pretty hard the last time he started against them last June 9 in Atlanta, but the Braves won that game anyway. The good news is that Jim Edmonds is the Cub who's probably had the most career success vs. Hudson (.444/.565/.667, 8-for-18, a double, a HR, five walks).

Z is 2-2, 4.88 in nine career starts against the Braves, the most recent being the Barrett/Zambrano Fight Game last June 1, after which Z went on a tear. Chipper Jones, who returned to the lineup last night and went 1-for-3, "dropping" has season average to .419, is .263/.440/.474 against Z (a double, a HR, four walks).

Today's game is on WGN, also SportsSouth (so on EI) and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment threads will post at 2:30 pm and 3:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Hudson

LIGHT EM UP.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, I think hes a punk

LIGHT THE BASTARD UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go easy on him

He’s on my fantasy team. So is Z. Is this a no win or a no lose?

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana

by copes006 on Jun 12, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

days like today

you pray for a 2-0 cubs win with the braves bullpen falling apart in the late innings

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Jun 12, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First to post the word First!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does south mean wind is blowing in?

I took the under on the spread today. 9 1/2 runs….

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z vs Hudson

2 sinkerballers, you should be OK

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two aces..

was the reason i was thinking he would be alright. Although i’d love to see the Cubbies rock Hudson and completely the sweep. back to back complete games??

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thatd be great

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meant to be here...

I took the unders as well

by SoTxCub on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Line up According to the Sun-Times:

Epatt Lf
Riot
Lee
Ram
Dome
Soto
Edmonds
DeRo
Z

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

Patterson leading off… hope he has a good day

by grogg_2434 on Jun 12, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do enjoy the fact that...

The only thing that really changed was the top of the order. After that it all stayed the same. I guess even if Epat goes 0-4 and the others produce it won’t hurt to bad, at least not yet..

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will be interesting

to watch today. Hoping for a Cub win today.

by sue369 on Jun 12, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to watch the game in black and white

I want to see the throwbakc jerseys in living color.

Nor do I want fewer cameras, even if all this is just for the first two innings. I DO want to see Len and Bob in their suit zoots, though.

"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 12, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it will be neat to have an opportunity to see this.

the Cub Gods are smiling on me, I was going to be cleaning while the game was on. He called and wants me later on in the day so we can meet about future stuff. That means I will be able to catch the first few innings somewhere!!!!!!!

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 12, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zoot suits were

passe by ‘48. But Charlie Parker was in, Gable was back and tks and Claude were already old.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 12, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I understand it...

The black and white and the limited camera angles will be used during the first two innings. After that, they’ll go to color and use more camera angles.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 12, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Carroll on Soriano

Carroll agrees on the six week time frame, although he notes that he might come back a little faster with bone regenerators, and notes the happy accident of rest for his legs,as we have noted here.

But the good news is that he says bio-mechanical studies show that the bone that Soriano broke plays almost no role in a major league swing, and therefore there shouldn’t be any lasting effects.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Great News...

I have been a little concerned on what happens when he does come back so this is good to hear!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very good to hear..

He has always had the rep of being a fast healer. Hopefully hes back to full strength sooner rather than later!!

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Josh

heres a hug for making me feel better

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

that’s a relief—both for the team and for Soriano, who must be incredibly frustrated, poor guy.

by Emelie on Jun 12, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Josh.

That is good to hear.

by sue369 on Jun 12, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

epatt????

why lou!!!!!!!

please prove me wrong!

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My sentiments exactly

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you guys

seen his stats in AAA?

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Again, hope i’m proved wrong but I haven’t been much of a fan of anyone named Patterson

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the first one...

ruined it for everyone that followed. Hopefully he can bring a postive spin to the name.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i understand that, but he’s hot right now and thats all that matters for todays game.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Hot in AAA doesn’t necessarily translate to hot in the bigs. I’ll settle for luke warm.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess to an extent

but putting good swings on the ball is putting a good swing on the ball no matter who’s throwing it. he hasnt exactly had good plate discipline with 10 walks to 40 k’s though, so there is some cause for concern.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, hope your right

but there is a difference (stating the obvious) between a Mark Hudson sinkerball and Johnny TripleA’s sinker. It’s always nice to see young players get the chance to show they belong though…..even though sometimes they don’t. :D

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agreed...

I don’t mind Eric at all.. Seems like he has the making to be a good player, well he just got his chance to prove he belongs. Hopefully he makes it tough to send him back once Soriano comes back.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad

you weren’t running the KC Royals in 1973.

“I’m not a fan of anyone named Brett.”

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not bad

.326/.361/.514 OPS – .875

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 12, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im thinking

a lead off home run is in order.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For us, right?

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

possibly first pitch, stay tuned.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm debating staying tuned.

I’m taping it and really wanna wait and watch when I get off work…but I also wanna hang out here.

Decisions, decisions.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stay here friend.

I did the same thing (tape) but I would be wondering all day what is going on. If it’s a good game, watch it again and enjoy it. If it comes out bad, then you know tonight you don’t have to waste your time.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done.

:D

Off to lunch, but I shall return.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to say the same thing.

So I’ll add: if, (big if), they lose, then you can watch it and critique what went wrong when you watch the tape. I don’t usually watch a game I’ve taped after a loss- but with EPat in I want to get a good look at his defense and his swing. I’m hoping he uses his speed. I think I remember that EPat had a problem being on time, whereas his bro couldn’t bunt. Hopefully EPat uses his speed in the game today at every opportunity. Hit & run, bunts, straight steals, etc.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's certainly not the worst idea in the world.

And in my estimation, preferable to seeing Hoffpauir playing the outfield. I’d rather see Murton in left, especially if our mindset is to win now. But at least youth is being served.

by cwyers on Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your case for Murton makes a lot of sense...

...but I get the impression that Matt is all-but-dead to Lou unless an absolute emergency comes up. In addition, Lou has that obsession with lefty speedsters, which EPatt allows him to indulge. I’m just hoping EPatt can get on base to put some of that speed to use.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get that impression too.

I just don’t understand it. (Cue MDBNIU saying something that makes him look like an ass in 3… 2… 1…)

by cwyers on Jun 12, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe because Murton has a slugging average under .400 in AAA

he’s below average defensively, has no speed and has regressed as a hitter each of the last two years.
There’s a reason why the Cubs haven’t been able to trade the guy (and they have tried).

by bluekoolaide on Jun 12, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he'll show up

late for the game. Can’t bat leadoff if he isn’t there.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braves Should Pray for Rain

The Cubs have Big Z. The Braves don’t have Spahn or Sain.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jun 12, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Although he may not be...........

.............Warren or Johnny, Tim Hudson is no slouch.

Should be quite a duel at the Friendly Confines this afternoon.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB TV users

I signed up for the free trial just to see the first two innnings in black and white.

What are the odds the game is not blacked out in Chicago?

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 12, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone?

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The game will be blacked out in Chicago

No question about it.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the cubs are always blacked out in chicago. mlb.tv is for “out of market” games.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 12, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go Cubs

I’m at work and won’t be able to see the game. Can someone post a still of the throwbacks on here when the game starts?

I would appreciate it!!!

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jun 12, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ummm ill try my best

ill do it on my HDTV :)

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd appreciate it too

Thanks!

"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder

by jasoniniowa on Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im going to record the game

and im going to enjoy it , so the pictures might come a little late, sorry :(
hopefully someone can posts some right away

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Avast ye landlover!!!

I’m off to find me booty!!!

Argg to you as well!!!!

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picture Lou riding in front of the team on a steed, Cub logo painted on his cheek:

“They may take our leadoff, but they can never take our W!”

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought that this was a family blog.

if you’re going to show a streaker at least show one I’d want to look at.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok enough is enough.... haha

I know your trying to balance out the status quo from the Daisy Fuentes experiment yesterday, but stop! : )

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS AT THE METRODOME...

...maybe one, two years ago? I was there that day, two guys ran on the field, one high-fived Torii Hunter, one ran up to Big Papi, both got form-tackled. It was awesome.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 12, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Milton Bradley?

I’m surprised I haven’t seen anybody (at least to my knowledge) mention Milton Bradley as a possibility for a trade target. He is a switch hitting outfielder having a monster season—.333 BA, .454 OBP, and .629 SLG. He is signed to a reasonable $5 million one year contract with the Rangers so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him unloaded at some time before the trade deadline. He could fill in for Soriano in left and then move to center field when Soriano returns since he has experience at all three outfield spots.

by chipwood23 on Jun 12, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Brenly's been known to speak his mind...

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as the Rangers are playing alright ball...

I don’t see them being sellers. With him and Hamilton doing what they are doing he might not be going anywhere. Plus Soriano is only out 6 weeks, we don’t need another corner outfielder. We can make it with what we have for a few weeks.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

noooooooo please not bradley

he recently went nuts and ran after the kc royals announcer
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3438827
“Well hes definitely (and obviously) got some real anger management issues. Bi polar or whatever you’d need a doctor to diagnose.
The announcers were slightly out of line imo, but certainly not something that warrants a confrontation.

I was at a rangers game saturday. After he struck out he broke his bat over his knee, and then walked very slowly out to RF, then threw his mit on the ground very agressively, and finally set there with his hands on his knees until the inning started. Then after catching a flyball he fired the ball in as hard as he possibly could even with noone on or anything. “

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Complete...

Nut Job! Don’t doubt his abitilites as a player, but if one thing pisses him off look out. We don’t need that right now.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so he's got passion

big deal the guy is absolutely raking right now. and takes walks like there’s no tomorrow.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True..

but every season that it looks like he has turned a corner and is only focusing on baseball something happens that makes him look like a head case. As a player I’d love him but we don’t need the other stuff. And him leaving the clubhouse to run up to the broadcast both to confront a pxp guy is not right, i don’t care how much passion you have.

Plus we don’t need another corner outfielder, we’ll be fine until soriano gets back.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew he had some clubhouse issues

but I didn’t realize he was psychotic. I was thinking it might be a similar situation to Edmonds who also had issues before he came to the Cubs. But now Edmonds seems like he is just trying to fit in.

by chipwood23 on Jun 12, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

he was more than a little out of line, but you’re absolutely right, confronting him would have done no good. He should have gone to the Rangers media relations guy and had him talk to Lefebvre.

But once again a white guy can be a heroin addict but he gets praised for turning his life around, but the black guy with anger management issues gets lumped in with him and then condemned for not being as upstanding as the white guy.

And yes, I do believe race is an issue here, and I know Bradley thinks it was.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%..

but trying to hunt down the guy talking about it is not the way to handle it.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I beat

the Milton Bradley to the Cubs drum here three years ago, and I was mercilessly attacked for it. (Actually, the response to me was quite polite. The response to Milton Bradley, however. . .)

I don’t see it happening, although I really think Bradley would respond well to Lou Piniella.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we really want a dude

who tore his leg up having a temper trantrum?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Junior?

Cincinnati is not going to hold on to him for much longer. They want to shed dollars and veterans for youth. Junior has no-trade clause, but he wants to win a WS before he retires; so he’d probably waive it to come to Chicago & reunite with Lou. Reds owe us for giving them Hamilton last year, (who they turned into Volquez). I wouldn’t be surprised to see this happen sooner rather than later, and to see Harang come over with him. Cincinnati is going down quick, and they want to start building to win like the Fish in Miami asap. I’m just saying…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

short centerfield

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Junior

could fill in for Fonzie, could sub for Dome, could platoon with Johnson in center. Could be a valuable pinch hitter. Griffey is no-longer an everyday player. His legs are almost shot. He would need rest on a regular basis.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs play in the NL.

There’s no DH here.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding.

Thank God there is no DH. Thank God they still play real baseball in the Senior Circuit.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's one of my favorite baseball players...

...but at this point in his career I don’t think he’s much of an improvement upon what we already have in the system.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 12, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey

wouldn’t be an upgrade over the fill-ins from Triple A? Are you kidding? Would he be an upgrade over Ed and Goat boy (Reed)? I most definitely think he would be.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way

he makes those catches yesterday. Griffey needs to be a DH for Seattle.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's your educated opinion

If he’s playing right or left, he can still get to almost everything because of his routes to the ball. Now center, you are correct, he probably wouldn’t make all the tough catches. However, his defense is still as good as Ed’s defense. His bat would be a big upgrade. He’s not going to Seattle, they suck & Junior wants to win.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's old

and he’s slow. I respect him very much, but there’s no place for him on this team.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey is no older than Edmonds.

Plus he’s got a lot left in the tank, due to all the time he missed from injuries. He’s not as slow as Ed either. I was just throwing out an idea. Hendry will be creative, and if Griffey is available, don’t be surprised to see him in a Cubs uni. I’ll quit now, apparently you think I’m a fool.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you're a fool.

I just think you’re wrong, that’s all. No offense meant or taken.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good.

Thanks. I don’t know why I got a burr in my saddle. I’m used to people shooting down my ideas. But I’ve been right at the trading deadline going back to ‘03 when they stole the RBI machine & Lofton from Pitt.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what

I was wrong on Edmunds—i thought he’d be an abject failure. If we get Griffey, I’ll hope I’m wrong there too.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Not A Fool

Anyone should have the confidence to propose a roster move. Just be prepared if people disagree, and as long as both sides present fair and level-headed arguments then there should be no problem.

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jr and Lou

get along but I’d only pick him up if the cost was small and the Reds paid most of his contract. There are better options.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey vs. Murton

No, I’m not kidding. I don’t believe Griffey would be an upgrade over Murton et al.

As an example, here’s Griffey’s current season line:

.258/.363 /.413 (101 OPS+)

Here’s Murton’s career MLB line:

.295/.363/.451 (106 OPS+)

And Murton’s 2008 PECOTA projection:

.295/.359/.462

And at this point, Murton’s a better left fielder than Griffey would be.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 12, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respectfully disagree.

Anyone who thinks that Murton would bring more to the Cubs in any position than Junior I believe is mistaken. I love Matt the bat, but he just doesn’t have the home run power needed, whereas the newest member of the 600 club has that power in spades.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 12, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

noooooooo please not bradley

he recently went nuts and ran after the kc royals announcer

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And then cried and said

he is trying to make a better living for his kid. Truly is the everyman, huh.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he is manic depressent

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So this broadcast sounds

Like it’s going to be awesome! Fading from b&k and increasing in technology as the game goes on…

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Any idea if the are introducing the

technology in a decade by decade fashion? i.e. the 4th inning with look like the 50s, 5th like the 60s, etc.?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 12, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that mean by the 9th...

we get to see “The Cub Club” come out and fire free t-shirts and toys into the crowd with slingshots?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking it's going to be...

...the graphics for each decade and the WGN logo changes.

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, you made a huge mistake.

The first rule of the Fight Game is you don’t talk about the Fight Game. Second rule of the Fight Game…?

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously...

...the second rule of fight game is you DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FIGHT GAME. Haven’t you ever seen FIGHT GAME with Edward Barrett and Brad Zambrano?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 12, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I could fight anyone?

Don Zimmer. I’d fight Don Zimmer.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a wee sidestep

and throw him down!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get tips from the Pedro Zimm Fight.

Make sure you watch the film.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could watch it over and over in a little room.

Watch his head go back, and to the left.

Back, and to the left.

Back…and to the left.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ol' Jacque DFA'd

http://www.miamiherald.com/857/story/567276.html

Not that I mean anything by bringing it up.

Seriously.

"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jun 12, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eric Patterson leading off????

Why not use this as opportunity to get Ronny Cedeno in the lineup at 2nd base, with Mark DeRosa playing left field? And why not put Kosuke at the top of the lineup where he belongs.

I have no problem with Patterson being the call up. But leading off and playing left field? Strange.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two reasons.

1) Lou believes in the hot hand.

2) Lou loves to steal bases.

by cwyers on Jun 12, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and ...

3) Lou loves getting leftie bats in the lineup.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 12, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4) and

Lou loves the ladies…. and alliteration

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson is Willie Harris Lite

My opinion of Ronny Cedeno ranks higher than Patterson. Plus Patterson hasn’t been playing the outfield at Triple A so it is big leap to thrust him in left field. Again, I don’t mind Patterson being the callup. But to me this was opportunity to get Kosuke put in the lineup where he belongs and for everybody’s favorite Cedeno to grab playing time.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you QUESTIONING LOU PINELLA????

how dare you, sir!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unconscionable.

Next he’ll be practicing “saber-magic.”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not that strange.

Lou wants a speedy lefty at the top of the order. (I’m pretty sure that’s not a news flash.) And, this way, DeRo can stay at his natural (or at least given) position.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kosuke is a speedy lefty

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but he's established himself...

...pretty firmly in the five hole. And if he keeps hitting home runs like he did last night, he probably won’t be moving up in the order anytime soon.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is that any more strange than Soriano leading off and playing LF?

Patterson may actually be a decent lead-off man for us…. good speed, running out of the box from the left side.
And… well, why mess up the infield chemistry and move DeRo to LF? He and Theriot are playing well together… don’t have to mess that up.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 12, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't played much OF in 2008

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Lou would do anything to NOT win games

if he has faith in him, then I guess I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we haven't won a WS in 99 years...

you don’t mind if you go ahead and break that tradition do you?

Sheesh…the best record in baseball, the GHH out of the lineup for 6 weeks, our ace starting at home against a team that is 7-30 on the road…and you still want to piss and moan.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a crappy middle infielder...

So… stick him in LF… kind of like some other crappy 2B, who now leads off and plays LF for the Cubs.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 12, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously

Lou is a guess-guess hack manager.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which pitcher was sent down??

To make room for Hoffpauier? Patterson replaces Soriano.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't heard anything...

...but originally Hoffpauir was eligible to come up tomorrow, I believe. So they might just send him to Toronto. I presume they’d send Hart down.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 12, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Soul.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Murton

I think his fan club finally needs to accept reality that he has about as much major league future as does Jason Dubois. He’s been passed over a few times now. His supporters can claim his ability to be a run producer at this level and say he is “replacement grade” all they want. But it’s not true. The Cubs don’t think much of Murton, and neither apparently do 29 other major league ballclubs.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I expect Murton

to be in an Indians uniform before season’s end.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has to go somewhere

it is clear Lou hate him. He is not “scappy” and has little speed and can “only” play
LF and hit for contact so yes a career nearly .300 hitter who plays LF is not called up when the
LF goes down it is time to just let him go. Obviously someone would be happy to take him off our hands
and if Lou won’t even bring him up now , Hendry owes it to him to trade him for PTNL. He might actually help a team where a manager cares more about getting ON base and catching the ball than stealing bases. I mean it worked out SO well last time we brought up E-Pat instead of Murton.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 12, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am forced to agree.

Murton clearly no longer has a place here, which is too bad, because playing this stint while Soriano’s on the DL could have been his best chance to shine and raise his trade-value. We aren’t going to get Sabitha - assuming we go for him - with guys who can’t show what they got.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 12, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jun 12, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for your unrequested, widely known opinion on this topic.

We will keep your opinion on file for 1 calendar year. If a need arises for us to need your opinion in the future, we will use it. You have our continued good wishes.

Very truly yours,
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have been funnier

had it been punctuated by photo of the “Two Bobs” interviewing that guy with “people skills” from the movie Office Space.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give SWL a break

takes time for Photoshop art to be created.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 12, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this IS

a game thread after all.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you'd think

that having the object of your ridicule trying to tell you how to ridicule him better would be a kill-joy, but with you, Francis, it really doesn’t do that at all.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a hell of a lot better than Fontenot

And he just happens to be on the roster.

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on Jun 12, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again

The “see n’ say” is en fuego. The truth shall set you free baby.

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Epat"

As has been discussed on here WAY too often (with no satisfactory conclusions) can we PLEASE not annoint poor Eric with the shortened “Epat”? Ideas??

"ROUS's? Rodents of Unusual Size. Don't worry, they don't exist."
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by iluvryno on Jun 12, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Patty Cake?

J/K

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Alarm Clock"

Rich Harden !! 8 starts, 3-0, 47 IP, 58 Ks, 2.85 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Buzz"

since he went to school at Georgia Tech?

"ROUS's? Rodents of Unusual Size. Don't worry, they don't exist."
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by iluvryno on Jun 12, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that one

“Buzz” Patterson. Sounds like an astronaut.

I officially second the calling of Eric Patterson as “Buzz.”

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 12, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Not Again"

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Low Expectations"

Cubs cocktail: Add equal amounts of devotion and stubbornness over ice, stir and serve.

by Fukumania on Jun 12, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HLF

“He Looks Familiar”

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Epat is a lovely diminutive form of Eric's name.

Like Sori for Soriano, or DLee for our first baseman. It breeds familiarity. Like TLR does for that manager of that baseball team in Missouri that likes to drink a lot.

by zevkalman on Jun 12, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else surprised that...

...Patterson was called up INSTEAD of Murton when it’s Murton who has proven he can play more consistently at the Major League level? Or maybe that’s just my opinion… I dunno… I need a drink.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

The answer is “Drinks.” I need drinks.

by cwyers on Jun 12, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 12, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word.

and dammit, I drank all my beer last night.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what MDBNIU thinks.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, what are you waiting for?

Spin the See ‘n Say!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the cow goes...

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

I see exactly why the Cubs haven’t called him up. Yes, Murton can lay at the Major league level, but why not give the kid (E Patterson) a chance to see if he can do the same? And Murton has not hit with any power what so ever in AAA. Patterson has performed better than Murton, IMO. I love the callup. Give him a chance and see what he can do. Patterson might suck but how are we gonna know until we see?

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by Unique on Jun 12, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well FU and your lousy opinion.

No, seriously, I can see what you mean, especially from the ‘power side’ of things.

I hope it’s the right decision – hope E.P. does well for us.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 12, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's

what I’m talking about. Let him play. Patterson is talented - let’s see if he can translate that into success. Forget all that bull—- with projections.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jun 12, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check out cwyers view on Murton and Patterson

in goat riders of the apocalypse. I’m not a sabermagician, and don’t completely believe anything that comes out of statistics (even though I have made a living doing advanced math), but it is probably a good first attempt at measuring productivity.

by zevkalman on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well here is an idea

Lets have Murton die his hair brown , change his name to Murtonot &, learn Cajun,
Then just tell Lou he is our new scappy find.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 12, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lou is gingerbiased.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading today's Greg Couch's article on Eyre

I love Scott Eyre. Really, I do. In the right man-to-man way, of course.

He’s the shit.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 12, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou on Sori

he’s a fast healer
he’s gotta keep his legs in shape
it’s unfortunate
our farm system’s gonna get a chance to help us out.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he just called Hoffpauer

“versatile”. Talking about making DLee be the DH, Hoff at 1st.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sparingly,

I hope.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so say we all.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just seeing some good AB's and good counts from Epat

is all im asking for.

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Updated June 01

by Rudey on Jun 12, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lous pregame

“I could put Hoffpower at 1st and Lee at DH’ I think he is confused

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for the upcoming

interleague stuff.

then he talked about putting Hoff in Left. Gawd.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cough, Gold Glover, cough.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe today will be a 6 inning complete game victory for z.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 12, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The mlb.tv link doesn't open for me...

maybe the “streaming technology” won’t be available until the 9th inning?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

but they didn’t stream over the intartoobz.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

For the pregame they’re shooting in color …... but with old-timey lower-third graphics ….. but also with the glitzy Lead-Off man graphic that has the sponsor name in it. What are they doing? Either do it or don’t!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 12, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

The marquee on Harry Caray’s Tavern says “Dewey Defeats Truman….Not”.

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Concession stand prices are rolled back...

for the 1st hour…

How many 65 cent beers can people pound in the 1st hour?

by MillsChC on Jun 12, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wish I Had $65

So I could walk up and say “100 beers, please”.

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need exactly 100 beers

"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder

by jasoniniowa on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

$0.65 Beers

I thought they were doing 65 cent pepsis. Cheap beer at baseball games usually (always?) ends in hilarity.

by sfoulkes on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or just British slang?

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i got pix

how do i insert the photos?

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And if they're your own pics...

...you need to first put them in a Flickr or Photbucket account.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHICAGO CUBS BASEBALL IS ON THE AIR!

Pat ALWAYS sounds like he’s from 1948, of course…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat is GOD

Bow to him. Do his bidding.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 12, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hart sent down?

So why not pitch him in the 8/9th last night? Sure it’s great that Dempster pitched a complete game, but it wasn’t a shutout anymore. Any extra rest for Dempster’s arm is good, no?

by astroview on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad they let him

get the CG. He’ll be fine.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we wanted to win?

Had we used Hart then we’d have to use Wuertz and Marmol and Cotts just to get through the last two innings.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best Buy?! What the devil is that????

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

by Jove!

It must be some kind of electronics boutique! Perhaps they have some of the vacuum tubes I need for my victrola!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Victrola doesn't use tubes

it has a crank that you turn and it winds a spring that drives the table. Uses steel or cactus needles. Oh it plays through a horn.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come now!

it’s the first half of the 20th century, my good man. The electric lightbulb is here to stay!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope they don’t compromise the coverage too much by doing this 40’s deal.

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by MrNFL on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You man like missing the first pitch of an inning?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe.

but the guitar was better. That was REALLY cool

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it does sound like Christmas bells.

Was all music from 1948 this lame?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell no

great swing! Benny Goodman etc.

by Emelie on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the period

If you really want swing you have to go with Count Basie…goodman was a music box compared to Basie.

by StevenABQ on Jun 12, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1948

Everything was lame in 1948.

Argg!

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to melt down those

handbells for the war effort

by MillsChC on Jun 12, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 12, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda dig

watching a bunch of women shake their bells.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here are some pix




sorry if bad quality

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

those are sweet

gonna kill the game-thread, but I like the unis. Even Z looks retro.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!!!

Lookin good.

Thanks Gamer!

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by McRipper on Jun 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great shots!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 12, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone post a pic of the unis!

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 18-8 (.692)

by joeschmitt on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

beat me to it

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 18-8 (.692)

by joeschmitt on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrek looks like this...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need Bud & Lou

To sing “Take Me Out The Ball Game” and perform “Who’s On First” during the bottom of the inning.

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gee -- is the whole game gonna be in black and white?

makes me kinda glad I bought a $2000 plasma hdtv—

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on Jun 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no, just

the first few innings.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Sure Am Glad

That Israel became an official nation. I don’t foresee any lingering ill will in the region for years to come!

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Air-lines? What is an air-line?

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Southwest.com? What is this ”.com” deal?

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by MrNFL on Jun 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench Clearing Brawl in 1948?

Because I think 60 years later to this day we’re going to have one in Wrigley….

by ak123 on Jun 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Identify his friends!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you must be referring

to the takeover of Czechoslovakia by the Soviets!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'll Never Get China

It’ll stay an imperial kingdom forever!

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+hammer and sickle

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine the reaction if someone tuned in without knowing the gimmick

They’d be like “WTF???”

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by MrNFL on Jun 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

$3.00 To Fill Up My Studebaker

These oil prices are too high!

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

God bless the Chinese

and their illegal streaming tv. Loving the visuals and the “mono” audio they’ve got going.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So does Sori...oops.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of fancy new-fangeld gloves are these cat wearing?

some kind of weird thing between the thumb and index finger…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are you serious lesters pitching today
they have to follow his starts now that he had a no hitter
the best team in baseball is not the important

by dariot2 on Jun 12, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I'll be damned if I let

my taxes go to this ridiculous Marshall Plan!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No replays?

That sucks

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what is this reply you speak of?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replay?

They can only play each play once…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we'll have no

revisionist gameplay here, thank you very much.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you guys are fast

I came to post some pics and you all beat me too it!

"I’ll try to do anything to win a game." - My Man....BIG Z

by akbeck98 on Jun 12, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard that

no centerfield camera for the fist two innings. Should be interesting.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 12, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs