Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before: Cubs 2, Blue Jays 3
TORONTO -- Sean Gallagher threw a pretty nice game last night.
But the Cubs lost to the Blue Jays 3-2, snapping a four-game winning streak, you're saying. What is Al talking about? The road finally get to him?
No, it didn't, though I was almost literally driving door-to-door from Wrigley Field, where I left Thursday's game, stopped at home to pick up my stuff, hit rush-hour traffic, stopped in Lansing, Michigan, overnight, and arrived in Toronto just in time to say "Hi" to my very nice bed-&-breakfast hosts, then leave for the game.
Gallagher DID throw well -- that is, except when he lost focus in the third inning and allowed back-to-back HR by two men we are very familiar with. First, it was ex-Cub Matt Stairs (who the Cubs should never have let go -- he could have been a valuable part-time player the last six years), who followed Alex Rios' leadoff double; next, former Cardinal nemesis Scott Rolen followed Stairs' lead by homering just inside the LF foul pole, and that was all the Jays' six pitchers needed. Among those six was yet another ex-Cub, Scott Downs, who has turned from a young starter who couldn't get the ball over the plate for the 2000 Cubs into a premier setup man. Some friends of mine from my Colgate University class, who live here in Toronto and were at the game, told me that Downs writes the names of his kids in the dirt on the mound before his first pitch of every appearance.
Digression? Sure, because do you really want to hear me talk about all the squandered opportunities? The Cubs left 11 last night, including an awful inning where they had the bases loaded with nobody out, A. J. Burnett (who had stymied the Cubs for the first five) on the ropes, and scored only once, on an Eric Patterson single with one out. They had appeared to score two batters earlier, when Jim Edmonds singled with runners on first and second; Kosuke Fukudome, the runner on second, rounded third and scored easily. Time was called and he was sent back to third; this was never explained at the park, and if you missed it, here it is:
The shot from Edmonds had hit the arm of the second-base umpire and was ruled a dead-ball single. Had the ball not hit the umpire, Fukudome would have scored from second, but he was instead called back to third, after the umpires realized what had happened.
Lou came out and briefly argued, but this makes sense. The Cubs still had a good shot at taking the game back that inning, but Ryan Theriot hit into a double play. That seemed to suck all the life out of the Cubs; they managed only three harmless singles the rest of the way. The bullpen did a good job of keeping the game close, at least, and in the 9th, the Cubs did get a runner on base (Derrek Lee, who walked) with two out -- this after ex-Blue Jay Reed Johnson got a rousing ovation from the Jays (and Cubs) fans before pinch-hitting for Micah Hoffpauir.
They kept the roof closed last night because of a forecast of rain, and that was a good thing, because in the late innings, audible thunder rumbled overhead and by the time the game ended, there was a pretty good downpour outside. My friends graciously offered a ride back for me, but that required a walk through the rain, which is the reason this recap is being written now rather than last night. While waiting for the rain to let up, I ran into Len Kasper and Bob Brenly also outside, saying they needed to find a cab back to their hotel -- I assume they eventually found one, because they disappeared into the wet night. (Thanks again, guys, for the interviews earlier this year.) The now corporately-named Rogers Centre has been vastly improved since I was last here in 2003; the concourses, once dark and forbidding, have been painted in lighter colors. They're still a bit dark, but better, and the food selection seems much more varied, and lines move fairly fast. The Jumbotron, also new, shows detailed stats on every player in the lineup, though at one point it said Derrek Lee had "grouned" to short in the 7th.
The Cubs have won so often in this so-far terrific season that it feels really strange when they lose. However, we must remember the silly old phrase, "You can't win 'em all", and know that is literally true. Toronto's got a pretty decent team that has struggled in part because their closer, B. J. Ryan, has blown two saves in the last two weeks. It won't get any easier today with Roy Halladay going, although Halladay, like Tim Hudson on Thursday (similar numbers) isn't unbeatable (five losses). I'll have a game thread up in a few hours.
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How do you say "First" in French?
We had opportunities. We need to take advantage of them the rest of the weekend.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2008 6:30 AM CDT 0 recs
Oui ....
But I think you drop the last “e” if said poster is a male. You know, those darn French have a different word for just about everything!
Perhaps “grouned” is francais for “grounded?” One can only hope!
The game sounded like a really annoying loss-missed opportunities galore.
-t.
GEAUX FONTENOT!
by Little Rock Ryno Fan on
Jun 14, 2008 6:41 AM CDT
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And they don't speak French in Toronto.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:43 AM CDT
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Are the road signs bi-lingual though?
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jun 14, 2008 6:44 AM CDT
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Yes, but..
... that’s a government requirement.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:49 AM CDT
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Yep
(My Toronto-bound flight shoulda left five minutes ago—I’m sittin’ just outside the gate reading BCB sitting on one of those throne-style shoe-shine chairs (the shoe shiners don’t work weekends, it appears)). Come on, airplane!
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jun 14, 2008 6:56 AM CDT
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Mais oui ...
Quelle dommage!
GEAUX FONTENOT!
by Little Rock Ryno Fan on
Jun 14, 2008 7:51 AM CDT
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Toronto NEVER
uses any french lyrics in “O Canada.” That’s deliberate. Only cities in Quebec ( the province is just about predominately french-speaking) and the city of Ottawa will use the french lyrics (Nation’s Capitol) of the anthem. (This is a generalization, french lyrics are used elsewhere in the country, but for the most part, Quebec isn’t really a ‘favorite’ of the rest of the country.)
When Quebec threatened to ‘become it’s own country’ many years ago, most of those in the rest of Canada said—“go ahead.” However, cooler heads prevailed.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Jun 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT
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Francophony
Many Canadians love hearing these kind of statements by Americans about Canada. There was a very popular Canadian TV show based on these.
by DrCrawdad on
Jun 14, 2008 8:13 AM CDT
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The ovation for Reed Johnson was incredile...
Dallas Green!
by SonnyJ9 on Jun 14, 2008 6:40 AM CDT 0 recs
Yes, it was.
Probably the loudest ovation of the night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:43 AM CDT
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Yeah, that was an amazing moment...
...and it reminded me that the Cubs really got away with one in picking up RJ so easily. That’s not to say Reed should play everyday, but if Lou continues to use him properly (i.e., as a platoon partner for Edmonds and as a late-inning defensive replacement), RJ will likely remain a significant asset to this team.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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Crazy lineup changes...
I thought about it later, and every one of those lineup changes in the 8th made sense, though I was certainly scratching my head at the time.
Marquis PR for Soto-more speed obviously
Blanco PH for Edmonds-Lefty, Blanco hitting .500 against him
Cedeno PH for EPat—Lefty vs Righty
(Blanco to catcher, Cedeno to CF, DeRo to Left, Fontenot in at 2b)
All the while knowing that he was going to PH Johnson for the Hoff in the 9th.
And had we tied it, he would have switched DeRo to 1b, Cedeno to LF, and Johnson to CF.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2008 6:40 AM CDT 0 recs
I was surprised Downs actually threw over to first once...
... when Marquis was on base. What, did they actually think he was going to steal?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:44 AM CDT
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Those crazy American Leaguers...
Minds glazed over by the use of the DH. Probably never had thought of using a pitcher as a PR, so maybe they thought Jason, with his 1 career SB, had some speed. :)
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 14, 2008 6:56 AM CDT
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But Marquis was the tying run...
And was there any attempt to get him into scoring position?
"This field, this game...it reminds us of all that once was good, and it could be again." ~ Terence Mann
by chr15 on
Jun 14, 2008 7:15 AM CDT
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Besides multiple base hits?
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 14, 2008 7:53 AM CDT
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Unfortunately, no.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 8:03 AM CDT
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Yeah, I didn't understand why Blanco wasn't bunting.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:01 AM CDT
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To be honest, Lou's moves have been
kind of confusing lately. Hoff in the 2 hole? I think they won Thursday in spite of Lou and last night’s game was definely winnable. That being said, the top of the order just sucked last night. Gotta get some production from the 1-2-3 spots. DLee is not doing a lot for the team thee days.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
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Soto...
could score with those.
"This field, this game...it reminds us of all that once was good, and it could be again." ~ Terence Mann
by chr15 on
Jun 14, 2008 8:03 AM CDT
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I agree the line up changes were crazy...
But Al, thanks for this post. It’s some much needed perspective. I was ornery yesterday as we were losing/after we lost—but you’re right. We can’t win them all, and Gallagher had a pretty good day.
Let’s win in a few hours though. ;)
by slcathena on Jun 14, 2008 6:43 AM CDT 0 recs
cubs
we all know the cubs have trouble with the a.l. so the rest of this month is crucial.i already have rays fans sharpening their knives in anticipation of a rays sweep next week.with patterson called up we can all see murton is done with the team.thanks lou.
by NOMAR on Jun 14, 2008 7:05 AM CDT 0 recs
I think that was true in the past
but last year they went something like 8-4 against the AL. This is a tough road trip, though, no matter what league the other teams play in.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jun 14, 2008 7:07 AM CDT
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Cocky Rays fans?
i already have rays fans sharpening their knives in anticipation of a rays sweep next week.
The Rays are on course to win 70+ for the first time in their teams 11 year history and they’re getting cocky?
by DrCrawdad on
Jun 14, 2008 7:38 AM CDT
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That's funny.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jun 14, 2008 7:51 AM CDT
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Maybe that's why their stadium is always half empty.
Their inflated egos need their own chair.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 14, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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I'll state the obvious. We could us a lot more production
from the top. The choice of Hoff a number two didn’t exactly work out. Theriot looked kind of lost last night. I miss Sori in the leadoff spot!!!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 8:07 AM CDT 0 recs
Fukudome should be leading off while Soriano is out.
There, I said it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 8:34 AM CDT
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+1
I wish Lou would make that change. I think Theriot is much more comfortable in the 2 hole. I would move Edmonds up to the 5 hole now. His bat is really live right now and I think he would fit great between Ram and Geo.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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I could go for this, too.
Jedmonds is suddenly hitting the ball awfully hard.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:02 AM CDT
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If he continues to hit
like this, he could change the look of the middle of the lineup. If lou would move up Dome and keep Edmonds in the middle, suddenly a pretty potent lineup looks even better.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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Anyone else think
that was the last time we see Micah Hoffpaiur bat 2nd? Maybe his hot start last time is enough to carry him a bit longer, but last night was brutal.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 9:07 AM CDT
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I think Lou probably regrets
that move. I think he was hoping to catch lightning in a bottle but it just didn’t happen.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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I hope so.
Hoffpauier should not be batting second and, honestly, he still looks a little lost against better major league pitchers. He seems to be able to play a competent first base, though, which made Lou’s decision to make his gold-glove first baseman the DH a little more palatable.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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Comparison
Micah Hoffpauir is striking out in 39% of his ML PAs. Felix Pie struck out in 34% of his.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 9:18 AM CDT
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true feelings
we lost now move on. I’m a huge soriano fan and hate that he’s hurt but i gotta say i really really dont miss him that much. i guess thats just a testament to how good this team is in my eyes. halladay is very beatable. we have a slugger or two due to break out too. lets get em tonight. go cubbies
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by cubsluver22 on Jun 14, 2008 8:15 AM CDT 0 recs
I'm confused. You are
a huge Sori fan, but you don’t mss him? I’m not saying we should all have a group cry since he is out, but it is ok to say we miss him.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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agreed
This team is a lot better with Sori in the lineup. Hard to say we don’t miss him. That’s not to say they can’t win without him…
by LT on
Jun 14, 2008 9:52 AM CDT
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They've done it before, but I would
rather have that big bat leading off games. That said, time to move on to today’s contest.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 10:18 AM CDT
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I'm sure you all saw this last night but here it is again...
Phillies – 20
Cardinals – 2
@ STL
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 14, 2008 8:43 AM CDT 0 recs
Anyone else catch the highlights of this game?
TLR acting all indignant when the umps ejected his pitcher for throwing at Ryan Howard was the comedic highlight of the season thus far. I hope this game was the freight train called reality finally running down a team that’s been tap-dancing on the railroad tracks of its own doom for well over a month now. (Did I stretch that metaphor too far?)
Other good news from last night: Twins crush Brewers 10-2, and Yankees edge Houston 2-1.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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Larussa act has really gotten old. His
pitchers always seem to hit batters at the right moments for him and then he plays innocent. If I were an ump, I would toss his ass the minute he stepped out of the dougout.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:13 AM CDT
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Ha ha!
With 0 on and 2 out in the 1st… Wellenmeyer gave up back-to-back-to-back jacks.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jun 14, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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That's the Todd
Wellenmeyer we all know and love!
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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Such a shame.
:one tear:
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
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Can't win 'em all
I can accept just getting beat by a dominating pitcher – ala Greg Maddux
I can accept a blow out or two that doesn’t go our way – 9-0 vs Reds
but I can’t tollerate a game we lose by one after leaving the bases loaded with no one out and that many men on base. Missed opportunities drive me nuts. I can sum up last night’s game in four words: I miss Daryle Ward.
Let’s hope Marquis pitches like he did last time out, and the bats come alive against Halliday.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 14, 2008 8:49 AM CDT 1 recs
I didn't get to see much of last night's game at all
But… I looked at the box score and saw DeRosa went 0-4, struck out 3 times and left 5 on base.
Did that have anything to do with the fact that Patterson was hitting behind him? Or did he just have a bad day?
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 14, 2008 9:07 AM CDT 0 recs
Here's another question I don't have time to do research on: DeRo with the bags loaded.
Is it my imagination or does DeRo tend to strike out a lot when the bases are loaded? Seems he tries to hard, and then overswings. Don’t have time to look up the stats.
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With the bases loaded
DeRosa’s career #s are .353/.395/.485 with 17 Ks in 81 PAs. In other situations, he strikes out 16% of the time. Bases loaded it’s 21% of the time. So far this year, he’s been up with the bases loaded 15 times and hit .182/.200/.182 with 4 Ks. That’s 27% of the time.
by DGU on
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Wow. I'm impressed at the statistics you assembled. Nice job, man.
Albeit with the small sample size, striking out 27% of the time with the bags loaded isn’t too cool. Of course, we can look at the 95% confidence statistic, but that would be overkill.
As I recall seeing the stats last week, the Cubs don’t rank very highly in the MLB for BA with the bags juiced.
by zevkalman on
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You are correct sir. He does it every time. His swing is much more
controlled when he comes up without the bases loaded. He seems to work the count in his favor but he over swings badly when he gets a pitch to hit. In all fairness, he did get a couple of lousy calls from the home plate ump last night.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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Yep, that strike three call in the sixth...
...was well off the plate. I guess you could argue DeRo still should’ve been protecting, but that was a bad call.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:23 AM CDT
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I think he gets it in his head
that he can be a hero. Not to say that he can’t, but I think he’s looking for that game winner and swinging for the fences instead of taking a decent at bat. I believe Len and Bob have commented on it, too.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
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It's just human nature, but the hardest hit balls are on
controlled swings. Hitting a baseball is all about timing and taking a big cut looks good but it rarely produces a hard hit ball. Dero is best when he takes his normal cut, but I guess you can’t blame him for trying to hit the ball back to the US!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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DeRosa's career line v. A.J. Burnett
.167/.267/.167 in 12 ABs.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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I'm guessing that was prior to last night's 0-4?
So, the 8 ABs was small sample size…
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jun 14, 2008 9:20 AM CDT
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It's a small sample size, of course, but
A.J. Burnett is simply the kind of pitcher a RH batter can tend to have trouble with. I’m not reading any more into DeRosa’s off night than that.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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Also, I see Gallagher only went 5 innings and 100 pitches.
He’s been pitching well of late, but he’s gotta keep that pitch count down and go deeper into ball games.
Looks like our pen was perfect last night! Without using Marmol or Wood!
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 14, 2008 9:22 AM CDT 0 recs
Yeah, Gallagher could've done better (obviously)...
...but I still thought he pitched pretty well—especially for a rookie pitching in a strange stadium against a strange team in an interleague game. In fact, one could argue he didn’t pitch all that much worse than Burnett. Here are their respective lines:
Burnett: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 7 Ks, 0 HR, 4.90 ERAGallagher: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 Ks 2 HR, 4.54 ERA
I thought Burnett looked good, but good enough to trade for…? I’m not so sure.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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Ooohhhh!
I also see OUTFIELD ASSIST: E Patterson (R Barajas at Home).
Nice!
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 14, 2008 9:24 AM CDT 0 recs
Yeah, he made a very nice pickup and throw...
...of a relatively shallow single to left field.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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It also helps to have a catcher that will field the ball, block the
plate and tag out the runner. (Michael Barret?)
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
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and the runner wasn't even close at home.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
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flashback friday
Al – how could you not mention the highlight of the night – Dan Plesac being welcomed back to the Rogers Centre? He was on our plane friday am, and shrewdly wore his sunglasses until everyone was seated so the adoring Cubs fans wouldn’t mob him.
And about Reed, the two Blue Jays fans behind us kept questioning where’s Reed? Why didn’t he start, why didn’t he come in for other situations. He seems like a huge favourite here (oops, I’m even spelling like Canadians).
by gp1966 on Jun 14, 2008 9:32 AM CDT 0 recs
Plesac was featured & interviewed
during the game telecast on Rogers SportsNet, FYI…...he said his days in Toronto were the highlight of his career.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT 0 recs






