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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Blue Jays, Saturday 6/14, 12:07 CT

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Chicago Cubs @ Toronto Blue Jays


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Chicago Cubs
@ Toronto Blue Jays

Saturday, Jun 14, 2008, 12:07 PM CDT
Rogers Centre

Jason Marquis vs Roy Halladay

Partly cloudy with a 40-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing from left to right field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

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TORONTO -- The rain has stopped this morning -- not that it would really matter for the game, because they could just close the roof again. But I'm kind of looking forward to seeing baseball in sunshine this afternoon.

Lou Piniella has rethought his rotation shuffle; this means Ryan Dempster misses the Baltimore series, and Carlos Zambrano will only face the White Sox once. (That notes column also indicates that 15 minor leaguers will be recalled to play in the Hall of Fame game on Monday.)

Bruce Miles writes that the flooding in Iowa has forced the Cubs to make adjustments in the farm system, including sending Kevin Hart to Double-A to get work in, because he couldn't get to Des Moines. They're even considering sending Sean Marshall there to get work.

And does anyone know what the reason is for the x:07 starts in Toronto? Is it a sponsorship deal like the White Sox have with 7-11?

Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
J. Marquis
Cubs		 vs. Roy Halladay
R. Halladay
Blue Jays
4-3 W-L 8-5
4.54 ERA 3.07
36 SO 81
28 BB 12
6 HR 7
vs. Tor -- vs. Cubs
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jason Marquis 4-3 12 12 0 0 0 0 67.1 77 37 34 6 28 36 4.54 1.56
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Roy Halladay 8-5 14 13 5 0 0 0 102.2 91 37 35 7 12 81 3.07 1.00

Roy Halladay's only career appearance vs. the Cubs was on June 8, 2005 at Wrigley Field. He threw well, allowing two runs in 7 innings, but that was one of the games after which Sergio Mitre should have been immediately traded, because Mitre was better, allowing no runs, and the Cubs won 2-0. Take a look at that "vs. Cubs" link in the pitcher box, and just for amusement, look at what Halladay did to Alfonso Soriano when Soriano was in the AL. Of course, that's irrelevant today, but still interesting. More intersting is the 12 walks in 102.2 IP (which leads the majors, as does his 5 CG). The Cubs, leading the majors in walks, will have to put the ball in play today to be successful.

Jason Marquis has a little more experience against today's hitters, including allowing three HR (in 24 AB) to Cub nemesis Scott Rolen. Brad Wilkerson has also hit him well (.333/.444/.800, 5-for-15, a double, 2 HR, 3 walks). Marquis threw really well and looked focused in his last start in Los Angeles last Sunday. That's the Marquis we need to show up today.

Today's game is on CBC, nationwide in Canada. I know, that doesn't really help anyone in the USA. It's also on CSN Chicago, and at the MLB.com Mediacenter. It is probably NOT on EI today, due to the silly Fox Saturday restrictions.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment threads will post at 1:15 pm and 2:15 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Halladay

I didn’t realize quite how ridiculously well Halladay has been pitching so far this year—some pretty sick numbers.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 14, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, just look at the complete games.

Most teams throw a celebration when they get one and this guy did 4 in row.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 CG in a row in April

BBB had a good comment yesterday saying that if he had pitched for the Yankees that’d be front page, lead off story on all sports reports… but since he plays for Toronto it was buried w/ the other crap nobody cares about… great point.

by lswaidz on Jun 14, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DOS!

ONE, TWO, TRES, QUATRO!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 14, 2008 10:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wooly bully...

...WOOLY BULLY!!!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 14, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game scares me...

...Halladay is great, and Marquis…is…not.

FWIW, I’m in Rolla, MO, visiting my girlfriend @ her new job, which is about 90 minutes from St. Louis. I was just in line at Panera and the guy in front of me was in Cardinals sandals, Cardinals WS06 shirt, and Cards hat. I almost puked up my bagel.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welcome to my world.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You work at Panera?

(sarcasm)

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually

here it’s called St Louis Bread Co. And, no, I don’t work there. ;)

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on the x:07's

i have no real idea why they do it, but we aren’t the only ones wondering:

from a mariners blog

The :07 start times hail back from when one US minute was worth 1.40 Canadian minutes. thanks to the abysmal state of the US economy, we have since reached minute parity, but the schedules have not been updated to reflect that.

by frisch on Jun 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that makes no sense

what does the dollar have to do with time?

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry, I laughed at it

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 11:01 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Economic humor is the best.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any idea

of lineup today? Left field? I heard Lou say Aram was supposed to be DH today.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jun 14, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's safe to say no Hoff in the 2 hole.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Halladay - 102 IP, 81 K's, 12 BB, yikes!!!!!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's due for an implosion.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah right.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A guy can hope, right?

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 10:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's in the bag baby. A big Cubs win today!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take it!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Al,

Halladay “vs. Cubs” link goes to a Roy Oswalt page vs. the NY Yankees

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Jun 14, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 12:07 start

Looking at the schedule, I thought it, honestly, was a Canadian thing. Then it brought back memories of TBS starting programs at five after.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The reason for the :07 stats in Toronto...

is simply because the Blue Jays play both the US and Canadian anthems.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jun 14, 2008 6:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs go this-a-way

Cubs lineup

Johnson, LF
Fukudome, RF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, DH
Edmonds, CF
DeRosa, 3B
Fontenot, 2B
Blanco, C
Cedeno, SS
Marquis, P

by Bruce Miles on Jun 14, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good god I'm glad we aren't in the AL

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 10:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Yesterday reminded me just how much I don’t like AL baseball

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 14, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+2

Those poor bastards.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess Lou was a little disappointed in

Theriot’s performance last night. He will probably get a few more games off in the next few weeks. Lou probably thinks he may be wearing down a bit.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a day game after a night game after travelling.

I wouldn’t read too much into the starting lineup long term.

by DGU on Jun 14, 2008 11:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I know is that...

...Ronny Cedeno is the only thing saving us from having the scrappiest, whitiest lineup possible.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Possible answer for the *:07 start times...

From bluejays.com…

“The CBC will produce 24 contests beginning with a June 7 game against East Division rival, the Baltimore Orioles. The CBC and the Blue Jays reunited last season to continue a long history that began with the clubs inaugural season in 1977.”

Considering the Jays started playing in 1977, perhaps all of the CBC games are starting at *:07 in honor of that season…?

by lswaidz on Jun 14, 2008 10:53 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes as much sense as anything else.

Cheers.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those wacky Canadians.

Y’know they are 25% funnier than us. It’s a fact.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 14, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?

Well, the English are 25% funnier than them.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NAEP = National Assessment of Educational Progress

Math scores have been going up, for the most part. Why do I know this? Because I’m a nerd PhD student in the Department of Special Education @ the University of Kansas. Math is looking okay, but my cohort’s focus is adolescent literacy, and our country is pretty bad at making sure teens can read. If you can’t read by 4th grade, you’re screwed, cuz we quick teaching you how to read, and started force-feeding content. Here’s recent math scores, in a nifty chart:

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/ltt/results2004/nat-math-scalescore.asp

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wacky is right....

I was going to Australia, flying out of Vancouver, they held my license and passport for 3 hours because I am such a dangerous person….a 22 year old assault bust!!! Man, they were hilarious. And totally shocked because we had stayed 10 days in Vancouver the year before. “How did you get in?” sez them. “Well,” sez me, ” I took the ferry…”. They finally let me go, got to the flight 30 minutes before it left…..

by crazymountain on Jun 14, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man is it ever quiet in here this morning.

Looks like some BCBers had pretty good Friday nights.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The :07 start times are because the games are in Canada.

Thus, BOTH national anthems are sung prior to the start of each game (Star Spangled Banner and Hockey Night in CanadaO Canada). They figured out that, come hell or high waters, games were starting at seven after, not five after. They finally stopped fighting it.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would have worked better if BCB hadn't removed my strikethrough.

Ignore the “Hockey Night In Canada.” It is not, actually, the official national anthem of Canada.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A for effort

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brilliant.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YEAAAAAAAA!!!! Blackout....

Lemme see….Cubs game starts 11AM here, FOX game is at 1:30PM…..but at least I get to watch the Red Sox – Reds game! A truly relevant game with both teams fighting for first…...winner gets first post on their blog!!!!!

If you put Halladay’s name in the search on Oswalts page, you have to find the right page BUT…...Soriano has 5 HR v. Halladay, but hitting .243 with a very meager SLG %.......

DLee and Rami are 1 for 3 and DeRo is hitting a whopping .000. Halladay is tough, has been for a long time….here is to hoping all his pitches are straight and catch a good part of the plate. Think we can trade Marquis for him?

by crazymountain on Jun 14, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the blackout rules

get stupider everytime i see them. way to support the fan, mlb, seriously.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worse than silly....

Is it still raining out your way? We haven’t called our people yet, wife is working til 7…...and we are calling tonight….

by crazymountain on Jun 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sue aren't you in Iowa? IIRC...

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've lived in most upper midwest states except for Iowa...

...and have a sister in Des Moines, and friends in Debeque (sp?). Now I’m in Kansas, but family’s still in southern Minnesota. I feel we’ve all been getting the same weather – but Iowa is getting hit the worst!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dubuque.

So far as I know, Dubuque hasn’t really been hit hard – it’s well to the north, and is nowhere near as flat as the rest of the state. Most of the damage has been in the Des Moines/Cedar Rapids area. Out here in Davenport we’ve been dumped on, but we were lucky – there was a tornado that passed over us on Thursday without touching down.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are in a tornado watch just about every damn day here in eastern Kansas

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kansas got hit

hard the other night. Hopefully the severe weahter that has pounded the midwest is over.

by sue369 on Jun 14, 2008 12:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, Kansas State is messed up...

...the football team even helped clean the town up, wearing their jerseys and whatnot. Thought that was kinda cool, even tho KSU/KU don’t like each other too much.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is cool.

We had a town (Parkersburg) that was devastated by a tornado about a month ago and the University of Iowa football players were there Wed. and helped the high school football team get their new weight room set up. There are 4 NFL players from the Parkerburg school district and two of them went to Iowa.

by sue369 on Jun 14, 2008 12:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's why it is called Tornado Alley....

We have had ONE tornado warning in the three years here. We are at 7,000 feet surrounded by mountains. To the east, though, is a different story. This is a bad season for y’all, I hope all stay safe…..

by crazymountain on Jun 14, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get the good ol

Cards and Phils here. Go Phillies!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 11:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would like to see Soto DH one day

no reason not to keep his bat in the lineup

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jun 14, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but then you'd have no backup catcher

that would not be good… i don’ think derosa can catch. :-)

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The DH can move to play a position.

You just forfeit the DH the rest of the game and the pitcher hits. Given the odds that you need a backup catcher, I’d say the risk isn’t THAT great.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hate the AL

i never get that. just weird.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, I NEVER KNEW THAT. That's neat, thanks.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And with our pitchers, Marquis and Z anyway, I'm not so sure the DH suits us...

IF we play NL style, the DH can help…..maybe it was just the game yesterday, the carpet….but the game just felt different than our style…...

by crazymountain on Jun 14, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our pitchers hit well for pitchers.

Meanwhile, with Ward and Soriano on the DL, the team really doesn’t have a lot of options when it comes to putting nine bats in the lineup, putting us at a marked disadvantage. All NL teams have that problem – AL teams go out and get a DH because they need one all season long, while NL teams rarely need one and thus normally don’t have that kind of a guy around.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus he's caught so many innings already this year

that I am happy to see him get a day off on a day like today. day after night game, turf etc

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 14, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This looks like a getaway day lineup.

Guess Lou doesn’t want to waste run support on Jason Marquis.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope the

Jason Marquis of his last game show up today.

GO CUBS!!!

by sue369 on Jun 14, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

he was pretty great last time out.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was a batting tee last time...

...the balls were just caught. Those balls fall in for hits, and Marquis looks real bad real fast.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and i hope the luck holds for one more day

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It occurs to me that the Cubs must have a sponsorship agreement with LSU...

...that requires at least one former LSU player in the starting lineup every game. That’s why, whenever Theriot sits…

fontenot

...Mike Fontenot plays.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Iowa Cubs

have already postponed their game for tonight.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from the news i've seen

it doesn’t look good for a while unfortunately. :-(

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'll be

lucky to play any games there this week if they have more scheduled there.

by sue369 on Jun 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The DM Register

is saying the I-Cubs are going to still try to play tonight, but there won’t be any fans at the game.

But I bet they don’t play.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You often see that when fan favorites come back.

Be really interesting to see how Cards fans react to Edmonds.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it'll go something like this:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 14, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should have heard

the applause David Eckstein got in Anaheim last month.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 14, 2008 12:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This place is dead...where the hell is everyone?

...maybe I should go back to doing ANOVAs. This game scares me today, and now that I’ve seen that lineup, it scares me more.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm here

till my brother in law gets married later. turns out the family won’t let me skip the wedding for the Cubs game. Buncha sticklers, eh?

I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!

by pscrblazer on Jun 14, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez...

...a guy can get married any ol day…

...but there’s only 162 games a year!!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Canadian anthems put me to sleep

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone doing pxp?

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll try, but I can't promise I'll be up-to-date.

Running some SQL queries in the background that are tying up the PC.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's your problem right there...

...I just switched to a MacBook Pro, and run VMWare for all my statistical analyses. I’ll never go back to PC, no reason to. Mac is soooooo much more intuitive, too, it’s ridiculous. And this is coming from a guy that sold PCs in retail for 4.5 years. I’ve switched, and I’m not goin back.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's all the same hardware underneith...

...and a newer PC would probably be just as good as a newer Mac, not that I can afford either. The fact that I’m using Windows is far less relelvant than the fact that my computer is years old and I’ve got (I think) over 2GB of records I’m working on.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IIRC...a recent PC World noted the highest benchmarks to both come from Macs...

...And, FWIW, I bought a MB Pro refurbished. I waited until the new models were released (earlier this year), and the then-defunct models became refurbs. Basically I got a top of the line MB Pro for the price of a MB. It’s a worth looking into next time you buy a computer, a little trick the guys at the Mac store taught me about.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting.

The ideal solution would be to get some sort of a headless server and just run Linux and MySQL on it, but I don’t do database work enough to justify it even if I could afford it right now.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've seen old Xboxs used for that exact purpose, actually, and those are damn cheap

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by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just heard about a university using an old Xbox...

...as a server for student websites. It was running Linux; I’m assuming you could put a few analyses programs on it, too.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty much everything I use (R, MySQL)

is available for Linux. That sounds very interesting.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is the article I was referencing...

http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/50428/the-website-is-down-because-someone-removed-the-x-box.html

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd think that Linux could probably handle 2GB of

data, even on an old computer, with no problem.

How much compute power do you need, cwyers? Another good thing about linux is the ability to create user accounts… if you get my drift.

by jbau on Jun 14, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a lot of baseball play-by-play data that I filter through.

I’m sure everyone is shocked by that, right? I’m creating an index right now so I can’t check for sure the size of the thing, the biggest table is the events table, which I think is over a gig of records by itself.

Right now I’m using straight SQL, maybe a bit of GNU-R mixed in. All single-user stuff though.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gasp! You, baseball data?

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by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, amazing.

If anyone else is interested in playing around with that sort of thing, there’s a Yahoo! Group for it. A couple of guys (Tom Tango and Mat Kovach) are putting together a lot of great resources and tutorials to make setting it up a snap. It’s a much better setup than what I was using previously.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I meant by ability to create user accounts...

Is that folks might be able to give you some access on a linux server, especially in an open university-type setting, if you’re interested in running your stuff remotely.

by jbau on Jun 14, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cheers for illegal activity, I support this

Hip-hip HORRAY!

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by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would love to explain to my wife...

...my arrest for illegially computing linear weights values. I’m sure she would be more thrilled by this than I could ever imagine. :)

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh. Felony for illegal use of R.

Wonder what MDBNIU would say. That’s outside the scope of his see-n-say.

But seriously though. I don’t think it’s anywhere near illegal if it’s someone’s personal machine—they’d have to make it illegal to host your website locally, then.

Anyways, let me know if you’re interested.

by jbau on Jun 14, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry. Let me be clear

Someone = me.
Not advocating cracking into another person’s personal machine =)

by jbau on Jun 14, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the offer.

II’ll keep in mind, but my brother has a Xbox he’s no longer using, and I’ll give that a shot first. If nothing else, MDBNIU’s reaction to a video game machine being used for baseball research is too good to pass up.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a really quiet crowd - it's unnerving.

You can hear the PA announcer so clearly it’s scary.

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by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

johnson grounds out

but i’m just watchin gameday so i’m behind

by BradB311 on Jun 14, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two straight groundouts.

Lee comes to the plate with two outs.

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by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

XM Radio

can’t pick up Toronto radio so I get to listen to WGN :)

by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Jun 14, 2008 12:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woo hoo back in bidness

just got my new laptop… good to go (cubs!) again

by Emelie on Jun 14, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

that was fast!

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

made it... :)

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

13 pitches for Halladay
11 pitches for Marquis

by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Jun 14, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gonna take a hell of an effort to get halladay out of there

he pitches deeper into games than most pitchers I believe

by grifdog on Jun 14, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 cgs already i think

he’s a pitching fool.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he barley

misses the zone. he’s been starring in at that ump already.

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 14, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone else's MLB.tv feed not have a box score for the TV feed?

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Jun 14, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No graphics on mine either

MLB.tv must be getting the “clean” feed from CBC for some reason. I hear sound effects that usually accompany the graphics, just that there are no graphics.

by va cubsfan on Jun 14, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5-4-3 is

3b, ss, to 1b, right? or am i confused again?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

i get those two mixed up

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One is pitcher, two is catcher.

Then you move from right to left across the bases, then the shortstop, then left to right across the outfield.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no wonder i get confused.

i know 1, 2, 3 and that ss is 6 but other than that i’m lost. :-) but thanks!!

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on gameday

it looks like edmonds swung at ball 4. did he?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to go Fontenot!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah..... 1rst and 3rd.. comeon bring him in

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scrappiest players in MLB

1 – Eckstein, no question
2 – Theriot
3 – Utley (can a real good player be considered scrappy?)

I’m sure I’m missing a few, but for discussion’s sake…

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chone Figgins

is as scrappy as they come, but because he’s black, no one can call him scrappy.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shhhhhh!

We’re not supposed to talk about that.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, I hear that ump..

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon Onedec!

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HR!!!!!!!!!! 4-0

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THANKS, BLUE JAYS!!!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ee gads that umpire does holler doesn't he?

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

Familiarity really counts.

by jbau on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we're on our way today... this is good!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gotta tell ya

i think reed just might be best. pickup. ever. I love this guy

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know someone mentions this

every day but it really was a great pickup

by BradB311 on Jun 14, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly..

Can’t say it enough how good of a pickup it was. It doesn’t do anything great but he does everything right. The other day taking one off his leg for a win and today showing some power. He’s been big this year.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the best part

he was happy to get signed by the Cubs.

by sue369 on Jun 14, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not great avg

but he does a little of everything. great defense. hustles his ass off on everything. gets hit by pitches.
Is it just me or do his feet look tiny. i bet he wears like an 8

by BradB311 on Jun 14, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats a pretty sight

innit? :-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah me too

I traipsed around Wikipedia for a few minutes after there were two outs and when I checked back it was 4-0.

by grifdog on Jun 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like the swiffer commercial where the woman dusts someone elses house

by Donbedouin on Jun 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dust other peoples homes... but they also pay me for it LOL

and I just haven’t gotton around to cleaning mine of late. So next half inning I’m going back to dusting. :)

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i might have to get more coco puffs

you can dust. :-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now, hold em..... then ad some more

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great 2 out rally, got to get to Halladay early

Just gotta hope Marquis doesn’t implode now

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 14, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed..

The thing we can’t forget about all of that is it all started with 2 outs and the hitters were are 7-9 and the leadoff guy. Gotta love how everyone on this team chips in somehow.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I checked out the SB Nation Blue Jay game thread

to see reaction to Reed’s HR. And there it one guy in there commenting to himself. Weird

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Jun 14, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its fun to go to the other teams' pages

the braves fans were fun people watching.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scoring Change

E on Eckstein no H or RBI for Cedeno

by cubfan06 on Jun 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and no ERs for Halladay

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry

by Barkman on Jun 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone else getting annoyed by the Jays announcers

mispronouncing(or pronouncing correctly, wherever you live) the letter o?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jun 14, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

darn... :(

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what happened?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 14, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blackouts suck

But, I finally found a way to watch the cubs in Birmingham, AL on a regular basis:

My new laptop easily connects to the TV, and will actually handle the 1.2M stream on mlb.tv. I’m on the free week trial right now, but I’m gonna keep on with it at this rate.

woohoo!

The only blackouts I’ve seen so far were when we played the braves (I guess living 2.5 hours from them is close enough, according to MLB).

by cpnkirk on Jun 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terffic!

Always like to hear of another successful connection

by Emelie on Jun 14, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY!!!! good job!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Every ball has been ripped so far off marquis

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs