A Marquis Performance: Cubs 6, Blue Jays 2
TORONTO -- Whoever this guy is inhabiting Jason Marquis' body and uniform, don't let him give it back to the real Jason Marquis (the one we've been so frustrated with over the last year and a half).
This Jason Marquis was outstanding for the second straight start, allowing only one hit through seven innings, and though faltering in the 8th, the only run he allowed was through a rare Carlos Marmol loss-of-command moment, when Marmol walked the patient Matt Stairs with the bases loaded.
Between Marquis and former Blue Jay Reed Johnson, who smacked a three-run homer off Roy Halladay, the Cubs dispatched the Blue Jays easily 6-2 this afternoon. Marquis lowered his ERA to 4.24, nearly a run lower than it was before his start in Los Angeles last Sunday.
For all the Marquis naysayers, maybe it's too early to say this, but it looks to me as if Marquis has "figured something out", because the last two starts he's looked, I think, better than he's looked at any time since he came to the Cubs a year and a half ago. I'll reserve judgment until he does this for three or four more starts, but if he can keep up this kind of performance, the Cubs' starting pitching inconsistencies may be solved.
Marquis had, apparently, allowed a hit in the 2nd inning when Jim Edmonds dropped a Rod Barajas fly ball that he had in his glove, but it was later ruled an error (correctly, I think). That was it till Lyle Overbay led off the 5th with a line single to center, and then the three hits leading off the 8th which got Marmol in the game. The third of those hits was a line drive off Mark DeRosa's glove that was almost caught; that could have been a double play. Instead, Marmol got out of it, but not until he walked Stairs to force in a run.
Reed Johnson got the start in LF today against the RHP Halladay -- as it turned out, a savvy move by Lou, because Johnson came up after Ronny Cedeno's little bleeder of a ground ball had not quite been stopped by David Eckstein -- hometown scoring made it an error, making that run and the three that scored on Reed's laser of a HR after that all unearned. The Cubs hit Roy Halladay all over the yard, winding up with seven hits and a walk, and six runs -- only two earned, though I thought Cedeno should have had a hit on that ball, because Eckstein made "more than ordinary" effort to even knock it down. Johnson got another ovation when announced, and when he had his first AB, from the Jays fans who remember him fondly; but after the HR, when he came up in the 4th, that turned to booing -- after all, he's now the visiting enemy!
The error didn't really matter, because runs are runs and we'll take them any way we can get them, right? The Cubs, as well as they did today, could have blown out the Jays earlier, as they stranded ten runners, and then Bob Howry decided to make it interesting by allowing a triple to Kevin Mench that Jim Edmonds didn't play very well off the CF wall, and then a sac fly, and then a ringing double by Brad Wilkerson, before striking out Eckstein to end it. (I'm still worried about Howry.)
Before the game I took in the Hockey Hall of Fame, which is located in an old bank building that has been sort of merged into an atrium-type mall, right next to an outlet of that very Canadian company, Starbucks (I have been very surprised to see, unlike my last visit to Toronto five years ago, how many US chain stores are now here). And let me tell you, the hockey people save everything -- there are pucks from 1901, "sweaters" (what they call jerseys, and some of them really ARE sweaters) from the 1920's and 1930's, and relics from every era of the sport, organized by era, by team and player, and also a large exhibit of world hockey teams, including shirts from teams from Israel, Mexico and Turkey, countries you'd never expect to have hockey teams. The Stanley Cup is prominently exhibited, along with the metal bands of previous winners that have now been retired from the actual Cup. The one you see being held up by the winners is now on tour, and it's not even the original, although that is also on display, in an old bank vault.
Very cool tour, and there were quite a few other Cub fans going through the exhibits in the morning before heading off to the game, and the requisite souvenir T-shirt was purchased, at the unheard-of museum price of only $10.
Ran into my friends Tom & Ginger from the bleachers, and will be joining them for dinner later tonight, and their friends Joe and his girlfriend, and also former Cubs Vine Line editor Jim McArdle, who is working on a book about this season; we all had a few postgame drinks at Wayne Gretzky's restaurant near the stadium. They were among the large minority of Cub fans in the crowd of 34,048 today -- probably 7,000-10,000 Cub fans taking over Toronto. Now, let's take this series tomorrow, with ex-Jay Ted Lilly on the mound.

View of the Skydome/Rogers Centre with the roof open on Saturday

The Jumbotron with tons of stats and information

Henry Blanco and Ronny Cedeno on base, where they would eventually score on...

... Reed Johnson's three-run homer.

The star of the day, Jason Marquis, delivers a pitch with Mark DeRosa ready at 3B
Click on photos to open a larger version in a new browser window. Photos by Al (except photo of Jason Marquis by Miriam Romain)
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ALRIGHT! Another Marquis performance indeed!
Didn’t get to watch this one… just listened to 720 while enjoying this fantastic June weather.
The boys of Summer are making me a very happy man!
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jun 14, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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It was great
to listen to the call on 720 on the little transistor radio and play a round of golf with my dad… we played great the Cubs won… couldn’t ask for more!
by lswaidz on
Jun 14, 2008 11:30 PM CDT
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Mark DeRosa is the Love Guru?
See, that’s just too much information on the Jumbotron.
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:20 PM CDT
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I think it's better to be aware
because now we know, and knowing is half the battle. YO JOE!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 5:22 PM CDT
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That's just perfect.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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ROTFLMAO
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on
Jun 14, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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Lets just hope that one name that doesn't catch on
imagine the photoshop pics if it did
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jun 14, 2008 9:54 PM CDT
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I'm confused
The Stanley Cup is prominently exhibited, along with the metal bands of previous winners that have now been retired from the actual Cup. The one you see being held up by the winners is now on tour, and it’s not even the original, although that is also on display, in an old bank vault.
by tal1286 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:22 PM CDT
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Let me clarify.
The “original” Stanley Cup is on display. It doesn’t tour, and it isn’t the one that had all the bands of championship teams on it.
That one is ALSO on display, along with the bands that have been REMOVED from previous years—because they don’t want to make it any larger. It only has the title teams back to the 1940’s, the earlier ones are also on display.
The one you see held up by the title teams when they win isn’t there, it’s now on tour with the Red Wings. Hope that clears it up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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so there are three
the very first one, which if I recall is just on a wooden cube, essentially.
A second one.
A number of bands which have been removed so the cup doesn’t get 15 feet tall and weigh a ton.
The third one is the one that the teams hold up and each player gets for a day.
Is this right?
by tal1286 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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You got it!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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I've been meaning to ask
Anyone thinking the Cubs should make a play for AJ Burnett after yesterday?
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:23 PM CDT
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He didn't impress me all that much.
I’m not saying Burnett sucks or anything, but I didn’t get the sense he’s worth spending valuable prospects on.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 6:19 PM CDT
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It all depends on pricing and availability.
I’d hold out for Sabathia if the Cubs really think they can be the frontrunners for him as has been suggested in some places. I’m assuming we can’t get more than one top pitcher by trade. But if Sabathia isn’t an option (nor Bedard) I would give up a certain number of trade pieces for Burnett. Remember, with Burnett, he’ll opt out probably and you’ll get two draft picks for him, so if we give up two prospects, we’d still get two prospects back out of what looks to be a deep draft next year.
That’s another one of the things that frustrates me most about Howry right now. He’s got to get it together, less for the bullpen innings this year, and more to keep his Type A status for us. Our bullpen is fine whether Howry is right or just an innings muncher. The first round sandwich picks will be nice, though.
Here’s the big question – say we shell out 6 of our non-Geovany Soto top 10 prospects in trades for two 2009 Type A free agents. Are our prospects really good enough that we end up losing that much if we get back 4 draft picks, especially given the quality that is likely to be available in the 2009 draft?
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT
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two things
1.. Marquis has been outstanding and I’m almost ready to expect it.
2. I like that jumbotron. It has the current game’s stats, and season stats. Most scoreboards only give you one or the other.
by tal1286 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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Yeah, I especially like that.
And it updates IMMEDIATELY after each at-bat.
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by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 5:25 PM CDT
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that must be some abacus.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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didn't mean that
about marquis. was thinking dempster. d’oh!
by tal1286 on
Jun 14, 2008 5:53 PM CDT
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I should have read further down to see your comment
Dempster I believe for right now, my only concern with him is once the innings start racking up after the AS break how will be. But I have much more faith in him than Marquis
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jun 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT
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Silly facts on that jumbotron
For TWO DAYS it has been listing where and how each player got his first major
league at bat. Do I need to know this EVERYTIME a guy comes up. Also the out of town
scoreboard does not show who is pitching.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on
Jun 14, 2008 6:16 PM CDT
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Not every at bat, just the 2nd one.
Yeah, I’m bored of it too. But then, not everyone goes to every game.
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by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:18 PM CDT
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Im no where near the point of expecting of him to be this good.
Heck I still am wondering if it’s the even a broken clock is right twice a day thing.
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jun 14, 2008 8:22 PM CDT
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I was pretty skeptical
about the lineup when I saw it this morning, but Lou dialed up another gem. And Marquis has been a pleasant surprise these last two start, thank you sir may I have another? :-)
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jun 14, 2008 5:35 PM CDT
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I didn't realize Rogers had a retractable roof
And they actually USE it! My views about Toronto baseball just went up a notch or two.
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by sanantonecub on
Jun 14, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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Marquis' improvement
Before the game on WGN Radio, Lou Piniella said Marquis was having some success with a new split-finger pitch. I might do a fanpost on this later, but this is reminiscent of another Cub pitcher who suddenly got better in a playoff run: Kevin Tapani. The splitter can lead to injury. That’s why, even though several pitchers, many of whom learned the pitch under Roger Craig, had good seasons, it became known as a pitch that could end your career. Some players adopted it once their other arsenal lost its bite. Tapani, for example, stopped throwing it after a stint on the DL. But, once the Cubs were close to making the playoffs, he dusted it off and used it for a while.
So what? Well, Dempster is also throwing a splitter this year, something new for him. He’s past his prime years, trying for one last big contract, and he’s willing to take the chance that any arm damage won’t happen until next year. Marquis is in a similar position. He risks not staying in the starting rotation. The Cubs have a chance to win it all this year. Now is the time to play for the short-term. Thus, the split-finger pitch.
If I’m not mistaken, even Kerry Wood has been working on a split-finger pitch this year. Anyone recall?
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by zambranofan on
Jun 14, 2008 5:44 PM CDT
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If 2008 Marquis = 1998 Tapani...
... we’re in really good shape.
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by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 6:18 PM CDT
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indeed
I’d be stoked if that were the case.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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I'm really not trying to shed any doubt on Mr. Marquis necessarily,
partly because although we love to rag on him here, we know he’s actually capable of pitching really well in ballgames (he was the only Cub last year aside from Z to throw a CG). However, in watching the replay on mlb.tv, it seemed to me that he had lots of pitches hit hard, but that they were right at the Defense. I’m curious to see if anyone else felt like they saw this. It might be a product of the fact that I don’t watch many games on tv and opt for the radio, and am just not used to the “live action”
by philadelphiacub on
Jun 14, 2008 6:09 PM CDT
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a good pitcher consistently executes his pitches so that
the balls ARE hit at the fielders.
Jason Marquis is nothing if inconsistent. But it appears that today he was on.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 6:14 PM CDT
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Facts are that
pitchers have no control of the ball once it is hit. That’s why we speak of 3 true outcomes, BB, K, HR, those are the things a pitcher can control, but he has little control over ground balls or fly balls. Those are things his fielders and fate control.
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jun 14, 2008 9:41 PM CDT
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Len and Bob -- and Pat and Ron
talk all the time about pitchers executing their pitches to induce the batters to hit the ball where the defenders are set up.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 10:12 PM CDT
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What you talk about
and what is reality are two different things. Once a ball is in play there are to may variables involved.
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jun 14, 2008 10:13 PM CDT
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I understand that
but the point remains—a pitcher can try to induce a certain kind of hit. That’s why we call them “ground-ball” pitchers or “extreme-fly-ball” pitchers.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 14, 2008 10:15 PM CDT
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Yep you can throw
sinkers and have them turn into ground balls but you can’t control whether they turn into outs or not. You can throw a ball so it is hit in the air but you can’t control whether it will be an out or not. Once it is in play anything can happen.
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jun 14, 2008 10:17 PM CDT
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Marquis
Marquis is going through his strong stretch of the season, its just coming about a month later this year then last year when he was strong in April and May. I think he’s good for 2 months every year but will lose it again. I think Howry is just getting his stuff up and he’ll find himself again. I think he’s moved down the ladder as far as Lou’s confidence goes without doubt for now.
Lets get a win tomorrow and win the series!
by jeff_pico on
Jun 14, 2008 6:14 PM CDT
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One More On-Site Observation, Eh
Someone made excellent use of one of the hotel rooms:

And here’s Marquis. Boy, was I pleasantly surprised.

by 08Cubs on
Jun 14, 2008 6:28 PM CDT
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You're apparently here...
... in Toronto. Sorry I missed you today—please try to stop by the Hard Rock at 11 am tomorrow.
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by Al on
Jun 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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A few years back,
someone made even more “excellent use” of one of those rooms, on a nationally televised game, no less.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Jun 15, 2008 1:22 AM CDT
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LOL...I remember that too...
It wasn’t during the WS was it?
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by Bump Bailey on
Jun 15, 2008 1:25 AM CDT
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No, it wasn't.
But I recall from when I stayed in that hotel five years ago, that they now have large notices at the registration desk to remind people that they can be seen from the stands!
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by Al on
Jun 15, 2008 6:55 AM CDT
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Burnett
He may be the second best pitcher available during midseason. Lets be realistic, the cubs will NEVER get Sabathia. I’m sure Shapiro can get a better haul from the Redsox, Phillies, or even the Yankees. The Cubs minor league system is below average and it would take two almost top notch major league ready prospects. Gallagher is a good option, but who comes after that? Hill? No, his value has declined and he can no longer be considered a prospect. He is older than Sabathia and it would make no sense for the Cubs to trade Hill. Pie? Also declined. Patterson? Maybe, but hasn’t proven he is major league ready. Veal? Great fastball and decent slider, but horrible command. Vitters? Possibly, but that is until he returns and proves he can be stellar in the minor leagues.
by Geo4MVP on
Jun 14, 2008 6:39 PM CDT
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can't we dream?
We probably don’t have enough to give for Sabathia but its a good dream :).......Burnett and Harden may already have hurt themselves by the time the deadline comes around. I have no doubt that Hendry will get someone and this time much much much better than Trachsel, Sabathia is going to take a couple of A+ prospects which it doesn’t look like the Cubs have. If Pie had blossomed maybe him and Gallagher. But if Pie was having a great year in the majors than we wouldn’t have Edmonds and we’d have to fill the CF hole again.
by jeff_pico on
Jun 14, 2008 7:10 PM CDT
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The only viable option that I see after Harden/Burnett is Maddux
But he’s nothing more, but a number 4 pitcher. Im sorry, but he will not survive in Wrigley Field. He is lucky to have a low ERA because of PETCO Park. Harden is a bit more injury prone than Burnett (check IP for Burnett). He also will come FAR more cheaper than Harden. I’m sorry, but NO to Harden. You should know by now what Billy Beane will demand and consider that Burnett is a free agent next year. If the Cubs can get him for a decent price, then Burnett should be at best a number three pitcher in the NL. He may not be dominating in the AL East, but I think he will do well in his return to the NL.
by Geo4MVP on
Jun 14, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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There are Greinke rumors, too.
And Greinke is the guy I want most. I think the Royals may take a liking to Ronny Cedeno who now has definite value. He’s not equal to Greinke by any stretch, but he’s a start.
I think Pie and Hill both have trade value, but some clubs will not agree. How we may or may not match up with different clubs could have a lot to do with how the clubs think of Pie/Hill. Hill may be older than Sabathia, but he has limited service time. That’s gold in today’s market. He’s under club control for a while. Perhaps Cliff Lee can teach Rich Hill how to stay in the strike zone. Perhaps Cleveland will think something like that. Perhaps not.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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+1
If the Royals would take Cedeno, Marshall, and Patterson, getting Greinke would be great. I fear KC would hold out for Cedeno and Gallagher, and I don’t think the Cubs should give that much.
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by zambranofan on
Jun 14, 2008 9:57 PM CDT
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If the Cubs give up
Gallagher and Cedeno, they better get good value in return. You are talking about a 22-year-old starter and a possible starting shortstop. That is an awful high price for a rent-a-pitcher.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Jun 14, 2008 10:00 PM CDT
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Greinke's not a rent-a-pitcher.
He has just over three years of service time.
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Jun 14, 2008 10:03 PM CDT
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Cedeno hasn't proven to be an everyday SS my friend
Unless Lou gives him that shot and Cedeno displays he can handle playing everyday, then his value will sky rocket. Cedeno has some success as a pinch hitter, but he needs to a bit more than that.
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Jun 15, 2008 12:26 AM CDT
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Gallagher
He has proven he can be a solid pticher in MLB. He is best trading chip the Cubs have and if only players like Patterson and Colvin can improve, then the Cubs have something going for them.
The bottom line is…let’s wait and see till late mid-season. The young kids have time to improve, but they need to get it going. A gradual improvement is all the Cubs need to showcase that they do have other solid trading chips besides Gallagher.
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Jun 15, 2008 12:30 AM CDT
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The thing about Cedeno
He has proven to be a solid bench player. If only Lou can extend his playing time and if Cedeno continues his success, then maybe the Cubs can package a deal for a solid pitcher with fewer problems.
But, as of right now the Cubs are in bad shape in terms of giving up talent. They need to start performing and start showing they can handle MLB (e.g. Patterson, Pie). Rich Hill will have value once he regains his confidence, but as of right now it’s best the Cubs don’t trade him. I think Hendry will wait off till late mid-season comes around. However, these young players need to start showing some improvement otherwise the Redsox and Yanks will blow the Cubs offers away.
by Geo4MVP on
Jun 15, 2008 12:23 AM CDT
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Vitters
cannot be traded until after July 31. And the Cubs aren’t going to trade him anyway.
I don’t disagree with your premise, but to criticize Patterson for “not prov[ing] he is major league ready” is silly. That’s why he’s a prospect. If the Indians are out of the race, they want people who will be ready next season, not this year.
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT
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Well, they would have to give up Vitters
He is apparently ranked in the in the top 50 amongst the young prospects. The Cubs may have no choice, but to GIVE HIM AS THE PLAYER TO BE NAMED LATER (and thus, he can be traded during the offseason).
What has Patterson proven that he is a prospect that will pan out. Until now, he has proven he can be a stud in AAA, but a dud in MLB. That is, unless he can prove he can show some progress in the next few weeks. Until now, he hasn’t proven he will ready NOW nor next year. I will give up an excellent example of a player who proved to be ready: Votto. What he did last year showed that he can do well in the majors. That’s the kind of evidence that THE INDIANS WANT TO SEE. They want to see Patterson display some patience at bat, but at the very least working the count. Until now, Patterson needs to show he can take some damn walks and decrease hi K out rate. I’m not demanding him to hit .300 with a 370 OBP, but show some progress in majors. Again, I stated that the Indians want a prospect that IS SHOWING SOME PROMISE, not a prospect who rakes in AAA (e.g. Huffpauir), but is lost in the majors.
by Geo4MVP on
Jun 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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I can hear you
there is no need to shout.
And I’m glad you’re so connected to the Indians front office.
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 10:03 PM CDT
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Patterson's a failure already?
I cannot believe the impatience. A few weeks? Wow.
If a player cannpt produce after of PLENTY of time in the majors - ie; COREY Patterson, yes, then he is a failure. Does THIS Patterson have even - 2 full months of MLB time???
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Jun 15, 2008 12:50 AM CDT
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I never said Patterson is a failiure
Read my posts carefully and you will see to this point Patterson doesn’t have the value that the Indians are seeking. I also said if progresses over the next few weeks or so THEN the Cubs will have a chance getting a solid pitcher.
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Jun 15, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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Sabathia: An Idea
I have an idea how to sweeten the offer for C.C..
Allegedly the Tribe wants “MLB ready” players in exchange. Since the Cubs have few prospects that fit this description, what if they were to include a current veteran player? Especially one with a track record of success, that could immediately slot into Sabathia’s spot as a LH starter?
I think the Indians would be interested in such a proposal, and that’s why I’d offer Ted Lilly + Cedeno + Kevin Hart for Sabathia.
by CaliCub on
Jun 15, 2008 12:41 AM CDT
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CC
is getting chubbier every season. I say—pass, on any long term thoughts. Rent-A-Pitcher…..I don’t know….and you want to give up Lilly? I don’t think so….
Although, I am looking forward to seeing CC pitch against Maddux pitch Sunday. I’ll be flipping back and forth….
I’d still rather rent Maddux….
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Jun 15, 2008 12:53 AM CDT
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Can't stop praising Marmol!
I can’t think of another bullpen pitcher I would rather have…I just pray he doesn’t get overused. Kudos to Jim Hendry for picking up Reed Johnson. I try to follow the AL as much as I can and I knew upon hearing of the pickup of Reed for a meager 1.1 million (small in baseball terms) was a solid addition. Johnson also paid for his flight to meet up with the Cubs so he could get some more time in before they broke camp. Great win today against a solid pitcher…let’s bring it tomorrow and take the series.
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by Bpatterson83 on
Jun 14, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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yes, yes, yes
I keep thinking that the Cubs management is extra sharp this year—they have the radar or the luck to pick up Reed, Edmonds, Soto, etc. and put together a team that so far is like no other. Watching sleepers like Marquis bloom (I choose to believe here) is wondrous.
This is crazy but Cubs talent right now reminds me of coiled paper pellets I got as a kid … place them in a glass of water and they unfolded into undulating flowers. Let’s hope our Cubbies continue to dazzle.
by Emelie on
Jun 14, 2008 7:20 PM CDT
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Soto..
..wasn’t really a “pick up”. He’s been in the Cubs system since 2001.
by bikemonkey on
Jun 14, 2008 11:19 PM CDT
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Great pictures, guys!
so glad to see Jason have another great game.
timely hits today, great HR by Reed, DLee hit the ball well. Was not thrilled with this lineup, but they proved me wrong.
I’m still worried about Howry, but overall, the pen has been awesome.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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The lineup change
I like the idea of Lou mixing it up, rotating the DH, at least for the first two games, just shows the importance of DeRosa and the many positions he can play.
Tommorows game could be a challenge, Litsch has thrown well for the most part and I don’t believe not to many Cubs have faced Litsch.
Hey but this team continues to play quite steady and with confidence.
Really do like the depth of this team, that is the one reason I believe the team won’t get into a long extended funk.
Go Cubs!!
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by Grockcubs on
Jun 14, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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Cedeno hit/Eckstein error
Al, got to disagree with you on this one. Eckstein went to one knee, but the ball wasn’t even a full step to his left. It was a play that Eckstein would probably say he should have made.
Either way, a nice bounceback after Friday’s game.
by Shanghai Badger on
Jun 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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Marquis equels
Steve Stone 1983? career year?
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by wild bill on
Jun 14, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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Stone was out of baseball by 83
Do you mean 1980? He was 25-7 that year, I don’t think Jason’s coming anywhere close to that.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 15, 2008 7:00 AM CDT
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I'd settle for 11-12 wins and an ERA in the low 4's.
I think Marquis is capable of that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 15, 2008 8:23 AM CDT
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word
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 16, 2008 8:44 AM CDT
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Uh-oh
I guess instant replay is coming after all. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AtWiXbhp2nEG56_HNAra.IoRvLYF?slug=ap-instantreplay&prov=ap&type=lgns
It’s going to be interesting if this occurs. I’m not sure if it should happen or not. I’m more of an old school baseball fan, but then again there have been some plays that have not gone the Cubs way and thus cost the game. On the other hand, I believe human judgment is what make baseball so interesting. I don’t know, what’s your opinion Al?
by Geo4MVP on
Jun 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT
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What I loved about today's game
aside from Marquis’ clutch performance, was the way the Cubs capitalized on the Blue Jays’ mistakes-which is one of the things that GOOD teams do.
Also, like a lot of us-I was pretty pessimistic about our chances of beating Halladay-but it also occured to me that good teams figure out ways to beat good pitchers.
While I don’t want to get too giggly about it too soon, today’s game was another statement by the Cubs that this team is for real.
by bluekoolaide on
Jun 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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I just got
back from the US Open…Cell phones are not allowed on the course…It was horrible not knowing how the game was going. Glad to see they won.
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by cozmotaylor123 on
Jun 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT
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Tennis has an awful lot of gambling problems recently.
I suspect that’s why they don’t allow cell phones. I could be wrong.
by cwyers on
Jun 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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Or maybe they just don't want...
...someone’s “Fergilicious” ringtone going off while one of the players is going into his or her serve.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT
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Except
I’m sure he’s referring to golf, as the Tennis US Open is in September and the golf one is going on right now.
I’m sure they don’t allow it because someone’s cell phone might ring during a putt. And golfers need absolute silence, unlike every other spectator sport.
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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How sweet it was
to see Jason Marquis take a one-hitter into the 8th, while Derrek Lee was breaking out of his slump against Roy Halladay. This is one of the things that makes baseball so much fun. While all your expectations of what is likely to happen are going one way, the game goes just the opposite way. Reed Johnson rarely hits right-handers, but twice this year he’s had big HRs off of right-handers.
The 2008 Cubs keep finding ways to win.
by DGU on
Jun 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT
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Fantastic write up!
Loved the Hockey HOF review.
Regarding Marquis, he’s a MLB pitcher. He’s not great, not even above average so he falls in to the huge category of MLB pitchers whose results vary quite a bit from year to year. He’s capable of gems, especially when he is not walking people and when he throwing GBs.
Marquis is not one of the Cubs’ problems, he’s very capable to fill the 5th starter role and even the 4th. As Lou pointed out in a Tribune article not too long ago the biggest problem with the rotation is Rich Hill
by DudeVf11 on
Jun 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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But Rich Hill isn't in the rotation.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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and that in essence is the problem
we thought he’d build off last y ear. instead he can’t find the plate with both hands and a map.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jun 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Yeah, that's true.
I guess I’ve just already moved on. To me, Rich Hill is an afterthought, a nonentity. And this team has gotten itself 19 games .500 without him, so I basically feel like he doesn’t deserve to be called a problem.
That’s not to say I’m not pulling for ol’ Filthy Rich (who ain’t so filthy anymore). I considered myself a pretty big fan of his before his recent fall from grace. But I see your point—and I can’t help but wonder whether this team would be desperately looking to fill in the top of its rotation if Hill hadn’t taken that big step forward that we were all hoping he would.
In any case, here’s to Sean Gallagher, because he appears to be making the most of the opportunity he’s been given—sadly enough, an opportunity made possible by the absence of Rich Hill.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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That's the
problem. He was excepted to be the #3 or #4 guy and he caught Steve Blass disease. Hopefully he can find a cure cause we need him.
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jun 14, 2008 9:48 PM CDT
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Edmonds......
Is now and will continue to make BIG contributions for the Cubs this season…....a blue collar hard nosed player all Cub fans love….....
by James031 on
Jun 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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Jimbo strikes me as neither blue collar nor hard nosed...
...but he’s done a lot to quiet those of us who criticized his acquisition. And he does deserve some credit for that.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 14, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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He also stands as a constant reminder of how short-sighted it is to judge a player on a small sample size.
Too bad we didn’t do that with our first CF.
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Jun 14, 2008 10:05 PM CDT
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So, who made the mistake --
The Padres w/ Edmonds? Or, the Cubs, with Pie? The Cubs, as you know—still have Pie. Seems to me the Padres made the mistake, not the Cubs. And, there’s still time for the kid to blossom. I’m not sure a pennant-contending team has as much patience. The crappy Padres should have waited. Somehow, having won 13 of their last 17 (or something close) the Padres feel they are back in the race. I’d rather have an Edmonds, who’s reviving himself, than the waste-of-time Jody Gerut in CF.
Pie & Patterson both have time to get their act together.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Jun 15, 2008 12:59 AM CDT
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interesting point
I hadn’t thought of it that way
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jun 15, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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I think the Padres made the mistake of...
...signing Edmonds to play CF…I don’t fault them for letting him go or the Cubs for picking him up. In general, guys like Edmonds, at their age AND if steroids, HGH and meth use are all on the downside, should start to show extreme declines in their performance. To me, signing Edmonds was a waste of money for the Padres. His uptick in performance of late could be all that he has left.
I am a Cubs fan, so i want Edmonds to perform well but at his age I don’t expect it. He didn’t cost the Cubs anything so it was a no brainer of a pick up to me.
Regarding Pie, it’s a combination of woeful numbers v. LHP, tolerably poor numbers vs. RHP and the Team’s apparent intention NOT to carry guys this season…Personally, I would have given Pie another month against RHP, but it’s not a big deal either…Pie has sunk himself with his performance at a time when expectations of him were high…
Edmonds has bought himself more time.
by DudeVf11 on
Jun 15, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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meth? really?
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by northsider on
Jun 15, 2008 5:04 PM CDT
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+1
His bat may have come around some for now, but his defense looks shaky to me. He’s definitely lost a step or two. I’m still in favor of bringing Felix back up at some point this season.
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by Bump Bailey on
Jun 15, 2008 1:18 AM CDT
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Considering
his nickname is “Hollywood,” I kind of doubt that he’s blue collar.
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by Josh77 on
Jun 14, 2008 10:07 PM CDT
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Great game today.
I always want our guys to do their best and Marquis really tested us for a few months. It has really been nice to see him pitch so well the last two games. I hope he continues to pitch this well in the future. Man I love this team.
by sue369 on
Jun 15, 2008 12:52 AM CDT
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+1
3-0 with a 1.96 ERA his last 3 starts. Maybe, like Al said, he has “figured it out”.
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by Bump Bailey on
Jun 15, 2008 1:23 AM CDT
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SIUQRAM!?!
i would pronounce it (see-yuk-ram).... ok, so not as cool as ONEDEC but hey same effect…. this guy is pitching like someone else right now! let’s roll on to the series win today! Go Cubs!!!
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Jun 15, 2008 8:36 AM CDT
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I hate nitpicking after such a great game, but . . .
I was curious about something. Marquis pitched an amazing and efficient game today. I think he averaged something around 10-12 pitches per inning. Why is it that Marquis, unlike the rest of our starters, can’t seem to approach the 100 pitch mark? Even in his last great start before this one he threw only 85 pitches or so before tiring. Or do the hitter justs start picking up his pitches better after the second time through the order?
I want to reiterate that I am ecstatic to see Marquis pitching this well and hope that he can keep it up. I was just curious about his seeming inability to throw more pitches in a game.
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Jun 15, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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