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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Rays, Tuesday 6/17, 6:10 CT

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Chicago Cubs
@ Tampa Bay Rays

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Tropicana Field

Ryan Dempster vs Scott Kazmir

Complete Coverage >

Back to business! Notes:

Something called AccuScore analyzes the Cubs' next few weeks without Alfonso Soriano.

Yosh Kawano, longtime clubhouse manager, donated his trademark fishing hat to the Hall of Fame in ceremonies yesterday before the rainout.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ryan Dempster
R. Dempster
Cubs		 vs. Scott Kazmir
S.
Kazmir
Rays
8-2 W-L 6-2
2.81 ERA 1.74
75 SO 54
35 BB 16
8 HR 2
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ryan Dempster 8-2 14 14 1 0 0 0 89.2 60 35 28 8 35 75 2.81 1.06
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Scott Kazmir 6-2 8 8 0 0 0 0 51.2 34 11 10 2 16 54 1.74 .97

Ryan Dempster has been really, really good this year. He has never faced the Rays; the current Ray who has the most AB against Dempster is his former teammate, Cliff Floyd (0-for-4).

Similarly, Scott Kazmir has never faced the Cubs. He's faced a handful of them in their AL days; Reed Johnson is 8-for-31 vs. Kazmir with two doubles, a triple and a HR -- but also 10 strikeouts.

These are not your father's (Devil) Rays, to quote the old Oldsmobile ad. They're far past the "are they for real?" stage. This team is for real and cannot be taken lightly. Five years ago when the then Devil Rays came to Wrigley Field, with Lou Piniella their manager, they were a last-place team, 13 games under .500, and the Cubs took two of three. The Rays are, I believe, a legitimate contender in the AL East and the Cubs will have to play the way they did in Toronto -- maybe a bit better -- to do the same in 2008.

If they do so, this will be a very, very successful road trip.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago, and broadcast TV in Tampa (WXPX), and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's overflow comment threads will post at 7:15 pm and 8:15 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Classic

And only works with perfect timing. Just don’t overuse it!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 3:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be sure to ask Lou...

if I’m overusing it.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 3:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ask Lou

Or ask Marmol?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 3:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone told me you gotta...

...use it or lose it, but they may have been talking about something else.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Use it.....

but don’t abuse it. I’m just sayin.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 17, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buy 2, get 1 free coupons?

Cos those things expire.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ROFL

just when I think you can’t outdo yourself…

by Emelie on Jun 17, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just read this. So appropriate.

http://xkcd.com/269/

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TWSS

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Kingdom for a Victory

Sure, my Kingdom might not consist of much, but that’s besides the point. GO CUBS!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a winner

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 17, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KAZMIR

LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 17, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kazmir is a stud

watched him pitch last week against the Angels. Tough tough tough. Gotta jump on him early

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 17, 2008 3:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes me wish Soriano wasn't hurt

One of his lead-off blasts would be nice today.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 3:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, and, you know...

every day.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 17, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who says there can’t be a reed johnson lead off dinger?

by Donbedouin on Jun 17, 2008 4:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the Sox can take one out of four

from the Devil Rays, (I’ll never call them the Rays, sounds stupid); how many can the Cubs take from them? I’m thinking all three!! Now that would be ideal, but I’ll take 2 out of 3.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THUNDER MATT!

Go getem, Matt!

Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.

by IowaCubs- on Jun 17, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WEASLEY IS OUR KING!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 17, 2008 4:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow...

I wonder what might inspire one to do such a thing…

With Cubs legend Ron Santo...

by PatHughesFan on Jun 17, 2008 4:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In my opinion

or, at least I hope this happens. The Cubs view this series as one of those gut check sereis. The players all know they are facing a legit AL team that could be a world series contender (I really doubt they make it that far though). And, our team knows they have the best record in baseball and the Rays are a challenge. I think we’ll see our best in this series and I also feel winning for the “old man” (Lou) is something in the back of their mind. I give Lou a ton of credit this year and his boys will want to make him proud. I think this will be a good prelude to this weekend when the early right of Chicago supremency will happen.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jun 17, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's do this Cubs!!

I’m really excited for this game.

GO CUBS!!!

by sue369 on Jun 17, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just me or has it been a really long time

since we’ve had a new thread. Game canceled yesterday followed by a night game. No book/movie review to pass the time ;)

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I laughed out loud

at that matt murton picture.. seriously..

by ThisIsResolute on Jun 17, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man I really wish I was going to see this game

Stupid 4-H with Cubs on at night. ::sigh:: Hopefully I’ll be leaving at Woody time…. but maybe not, it’ll be 9 at least before I even get to a radio. ::grumbles::

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can never miss

any regularly scheduled Woody time.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless its Woody Paige

then it should be missed… regularly.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woody Harrelson?

Actually….Harrelson, no…Woody Boyd, yes

by JCD on Jun 17, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

I assume that you watch Around the Horn.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Occassionally

i usually catch the last few minutes while waiting for PTI. :-)

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Wilbon cracks me up. His analysis in the NBA finals is not bad at all and he should be the regular NBA analyst in stead of that Chicago Bulls hater Walton.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the interaction between

tony and wilbon is the best on tv. you can tell they’re really friends, i like that.

although that wilbon says he’s a cubs AND white sox fan is worrying.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

but i’ve never met anyone who’s both.

i personally have nothing against the sox and the only time i want them to lose is when they play the cubs, but i don’t consider myself a fan of the white sox.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which is funny outside of Chicago

cos people kind of assume you’re both. Honestly, I care more about the Sox cos they’re my brothers team than because they’re from the same city.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would you assume

A Met fan is a Yankee fan? A Dodger fan is an Angels fan?

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jun 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I only dislike Mark Buerhle

When he accused Maddux of cheating by using foreign substance, I lost my respect for him.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez.

He’s like the devil that appears on your shoulder urging you to kill yourself.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

twss

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

it was the lower case letters that made you overlook mine. :)

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 4:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TWSS.

C’mon, people, do I have to do everything around here?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2008 4:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

twss

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Randolph fired

Man, getting fired around 3:00 A.M.? That really blows and I don’t think Jerry Manuel is going to be make a significant difference.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mets..

should either let Moises Alou be the player/manager and rehire Phillips to be the new GM, or just let Santana do both.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could be worse.

They could’ve just stamped this on his forehead:

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meh..

who cares… the mets are toast.

by ThisIsResolute on Jun 17, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That etam has too much talent to be this bad

This pitching is solid and their hitting should be incredibly good, but I guess the last year season collapse took some toll on their confidence.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they're old and overrated

they should’ve fired Maniya instead, seeing as he’s the one that put the team together. Signing several people to deals banking on “lighting in a bottle, past their prime” results equals fail.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then there's Edmonds.

The exception that proves the rule?

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said several

Alou, Beltran, how many others? You can give a guy a shot, but you can’t build your team on it. If Edmonds had came in and sucked, we would’ve been okay because we weren’t basing everything on him, but with Alou and etc the Mets DID base their season on it.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Or -1 depending on your perspective.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their problems also resides to pitching

Their pen hasnt been so hot and the main problem with the Mets are the 3-4-5 hitters. They are not hitting well with RISP and thus I think they are due.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And how any of that is the Manager's fault

is beyond me. Isn’t that all GM? Roster assembly and all that.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have we written off the marlins?

i’m not saying they’re better than the phils, but i don’t think the phillies starting pitching is very good outside of hamels.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good for willie..

he’ll be better off somewhere else.

by ThisIsResolute on Jun 17, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not overrated

Their OF may be mediocre (besides Beltran), but I guess these things happen. It’s not only the Mets who are doing bad, but also the Tigers and Indians. I think the Mets will do better in the second half of the season (same for the Tigers and Indians).

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was in St. Pete's for a few weeks

and got to watch a lot of Rays games, even went to a Rays Whitesox game (the walk-off for Gabe Gross). The Rays are not a juggernaut of an offense but it seemed everyone can hit. They have 3 Gold Glove caliber defenders in Longoria, Upton and Iwamura (of course the have Carl Crawford to go with that). Upton was a very fun player to watch. We got our work cut out for us tonight w/Kazmir.

Let’s light this kid up! I’m off to the bar…

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 17, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With this rotation, Big Z won't pitch against Sox this weekend

I know going with the Dempster-Zambrano-Gallagher-Lilly-Marquis rotation keeps the rotation on schedule and is best for the team, but I was hoping Z would pitch tonight against Kazmir, staying on his schedule of 4 days rest and allowing him to pitch Sunday night against the Sox on ESPN. However, that would’ve pushed Dempster to Wednesday night against Sonnanstine, giving him 6 days rest, which is too much rest between starts.

Wednesday’s Z-Sonnanstine match up will be a good one, nonetheless. So will tonight’s.

I’ll be at Thursday’s game (Gallagher vs Shields). Go Cubs!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jun 17, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any one else feel like this series is

an almost “gotta win”?

A quality opponent on the road?

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you calling this a "must win" game?

Funny how we haven’t had many of those this year….somebody go back and look at last season and see how many “must win” games we had.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

I don’t think you get a must win in June. But it feels like a “gotta win” just for your sanity sake series. Shake off the road blues get our mojo going, I dunno. It just feels like the biggest series we’ve had so far.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I think it'll be significant statement...

...if the Cubs can win this series. But if that doesn’t happen, I don’t think anyone should panic.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Booyakasha.

Still, going 2-1 here would be quite reassuring. And it’s always easiest to do that when you win the first one.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Respeck.

With Kazmir on the mound, I’m keeping my expectations in check. The only thing giving me a little bit of optimism is I felt the same way when the Cubs were facing Halladay.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

But if I were a Rays fan (shudders) I’d be worried about facing Demp right now, too.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are no Rays fans....

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm sure there a couple

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right...

...one couple. The wedding was lovely. :)

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I ventured to their blog earlier today

One poster commented about how he was going to be glad after they beat us, since he’s tired of “all the Cubs fans coming out of the woodwork”

of course, this was a post or two either above or below another comment about how this series is likely to break attendance records not seen since the franchise’s very first series.

Huh?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pot calling the kettle black.

Reminds me of the Marlins selling out for the NLCS in ‘03.

“What? No, I swear, I did not just buy this Marlins hat from the giftshop. Man, I’ve loved Darren Lee all year!”

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there another rock concert after the game?

If you watched any of the Rays-Sox series they had ONE good crowd, and only because of a rock concert afterwards. 36k for that Saturday game, 14k for a Friday game the night before.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Kazmir is just downright nasty! .97 whip; are you kidding me? and he can throw some 97-98 mph heat at ya too. Check out his H.S. video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Sl1OBoY7c

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indeed.

and the cardinals aren’t showing any signs of letting up in their tear through the weakest schedule in history..

by ThisIsResolute on Jun 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It'll be a good test...

.....but .500 on the road is what you shoot for, anything else is gravy

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned...

...that the last time the Cubs faced the (Devil) Rays, Sammy Sosa was caught corking his bat! Or at least if anyone mentioned it, I missed it.

Remember that? It was a “Where were you?” moment. What was I doing? Nothing particularly out of the ordinary. I was at home, watching the Cubs game. What I remember most vividly was the sports world going ape sh*t the next day. And Chip Caray simply asking, “Why?” Ah…the good old days.

by MikeJ on Jun 17, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Standing in front of the TV at work

woefully anticipating what I was about to get from my Cardinal-loving coworkers.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had the same reaction

...thinking about the future abuse from my White Sox fan co-workers. About 1.8 seconds later, the t-shirts with the Cubs logo (but with the word “Cork” in its place) starting appearing all over the south side.

by MikeJ on Jun 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was at that game...

in the bleachers. Had some binoculars, and everybody kept coming up to me asking why they took the RBI away from Sammy. It took a while to figure out, (because they didn’t announce anything at Wrigley). Memorable game though, Cubs came back to win in the bottom of the 9th.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a cold afternoon

IIRC, and my parents were in town visiting. I was watching the game in their hotel room when it happened. I remember thinking to myself “what if he has been doing this for the last 5-10 years?”
How many things have changed since…

by chilango2 on Jun 17, 2008 5:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tampa

Let’s keep in mind that the Rays are still a bunch of kids. (Except for Percival/Floyd/Crawford). Mike North can keep spouting his crap about the AL being better than the NL, we’ll see how it is after our Cubs take 2 of 3, (minimum) from Tampa. Everybody on the Rays knows that the Cubs are legit, have a great manager, and can hit the cover off the ball.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well nice to see someone confident

kids or not, they’re good and i’m not taking them for granted.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not saying take them for granted.

I am saying that the Rays are young, and know very well who they are facing in this series. (A good team). They are much like the Brewers of last year. When it comes to a series like this, I’m sure they see it as must-win, even if they say they do not. Young teams tend to press. When they press, they try to do too much, try to be too perfect, try to do it all at once. I think our Cubs just look at this as another series, they don’t fear the Rays, they don’t look at it as must win. They will go into this series relaxed, and ready to play. So, don’t take them for granted, but remember that young players and upstart teams tend to press. When you press, you lose…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The kids are good....

however, I think THEY think they still have something to prove. So, their talent and the pressure I’m thinking they have put on themselves means one of two things…..either they play up to their great talent or they press too hard to impress the best team in baseball. For us, I think it is a “statement” series, not a “must win” series. The Cubs KNOW they can beat anyone and that bodes well for us in Florida…..

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rays Better Than Expected

I don’t think the Rays will collapse this season. Far from a meltdown, I think they will about half of their remaining games. I’m glad to see the franchise turning things around. They are better than the ‘05 Nationals. I think the Yankees will edge them out for second place. A strong third place would be a definite improvement for this club. I think the difference between the Yankees and Rays is smaller than the difference between the Yankees and Red Sox.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jun 17, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I tend to agree

with you. I hope they have a good year too. Still think they should contract both Tampa and the Marlins. I totally agree with Crazy Mountain.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike North..

What a tool. He should go back to selling hot dogs..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

You may soon get your wish.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Gary

You been listening to that tool this week? He can’t seem to let go of the Greenstein thing. I hope he goes off the radio soon. He only talks sports so he can disparage the teams, and/or players he doesn’t like, (for whatever circular logic reason he can dream up). He’s such a tool, I wouldn’t even buy a hot dog from this guy.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gave up on North two years ago.

He is the king of circular logic.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I need to follow your lead

But I can’t listen to ESPN, because they seem to talk anything but baseball in the morning. I hate listening to sports radio during baseball season, only to hear about the latest MMA fight or why Big Brown took a BIG BROWN in the Belmont, or why Urlacher wants a new contract. Hey guys, IT”S BASEBALL SEASON…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I listen to NPR in the morning.

I get my news, then switch to Waddle and Silvie at 9.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good idea.

I knew another Philosophy man would have a good idea! NPR in Chicago?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WBEZ

My friend works there and I have a piece that might be airing in August. : )

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds good.

Used to work in radio in my youth, (so long ago). Let us know when it’s on, I’d like to hear it.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will do!

I’m also calling play-by-play over the summer for a baseball team so I’ll mention that at some point if anyone wants to give feedback.

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will they podcast the NPR thing?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep.

WBEZ. Good stuff.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Murton is out of options

It’s now or never for the Redhead Wonder. Either he will stay, get traded, or released.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heres hoping he plays well enough to be wanted by someone else

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With a caveat.

The Cubs have until July 7 to send him down. After that date, he has to clear Optional Assignment Waviers before he can be sent down. However, these are revocable waviers, so it’s not hard and fast he’d have to be traded, but it’s very likely.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This call up is, in my opinion

a showing for the redhead. I hope he does well while he is up and with whatever team trades for him.

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My buddy just called from the Tropicana parking lot in St Pete...

...He said it was a “sea of blue” and Cubs fans as far as the eye could see….not a Rays fan in sight.

Love to see us fill that place with Cub fans!

by JB 23 on Jun 17, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's gonna sound AWESOME on television.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't wait for the fukodome chant

which somehow gets more awesome as we go through the season

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would love

to hear the Rays announcers tonight.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just might give them a look...

IF I don’t have the Florida teams mixed up, their color guy is Tom Hutton, an old schoolmate and a very good ballplayer in his day.

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you hear the Fukudome chant..

for Rocco Mediate yesterday? Pretty cool…Rocco, Rocco, clap clap, clap clap clap….

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is Awesomeness!!!!

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are options a yearly thing or

is each time counted as 1

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on Jun 17, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

each time sent down counted as one

Therefore, Murton just used his last :)

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought it was yearly, but i’m admittedly no expert.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 17, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I remember having this discussion last year, and I thought that it was said that an option was for a year… once it was used, they could be sent up or down as many times as the team wanted during that season still only using the one option.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 17, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you get 3 option seasons

by Donbedouin on Jun 17, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yabbut,

once you’ve been on the 40-man for three seasons, you have to clear revocable waviers to be sent down. Once you’ve been on the roster for 5 years, you can refuse an optional assignment and demand free agency.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, this is incorrect.

Options apply to years.

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bookmark

this and refer when needed.

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks..

I needed a refresher course.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks!!

And Matt is in his 6th pro year so after July 6 he would have to clear waivers? Man, I gotta make some time to read-research more…......

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After July 6th, he'd have to clear optional ssignment waivers,

which are revocable. If anyone tried to claim him, the Cubs could always yank him back.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, ok....Thanks Gary!

I now have the site mentioned above marked so I will get on that. I spend so much time in shop and studio and just don’t take enough time. THAT is gonna change…....

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I remember reading options for used when sent down or to the majors.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no prob!

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With one caveat.

If a player spends less than 20 days in the minors from the date of option to the date of recall (unless he is yanked from a game to be recalled), it doesn’t count towards his option years.

E. Optional Assignments
If a Player is optionally assigned for a total of less than 20 days in one
championship season, such optional assignment(s) shall not count as
an optional assignment in connection with the limitation upon optional
assignments provided for in Major League Rule 11©. (See Article
XXI.)
For purposes of counting days on option, the date of the optional
assignment shall be counted and the date of recall shall not be counted,
provided that the date of recall shall be counted if the recall takes
place after the start of any Minor League game in which the Player was
eligible to play.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tonight's lineup

Not announced yet: My guess the Cubs will go with the following lineup against the tough lefthander:

Johnson CF
Theriot SS
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Soto C
Fukudome RF
DeRosa 2B
Murton LF
Dempster P

This is Matt Murton Showcase Hour – there’s no way he’s going to clear waviers on the way down and there’s no way he’ll stick. Look for him to get a lot of at bats and a trade, hopefully part of a trade for a pitcher such as Arroyo or Burnett. Both are risky but it’s time to gamble!

by eamus-catuli on Jun 17, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good

except no second baseman… It’s RC COLA in the 9 hole playing second tonight.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Random Thoughts is back.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, he learned from the best.

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Lord, beer me strength

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From Larry King to Jim Halpert.

Making it your own. I like it!

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

That “I am f’ng insane” thing always makes me lose it!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me?

Mr. Random Thoughts? Why pray tell do you feel the need to state that?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the game thread

on Saturday I think? Maybe Friday. No biggie.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not you

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was replying

to eamus-catuli.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fail

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 21-9 (.700)
Edmonds with Cubs: .309 / .342 / .515

by joeschmitt on Jun 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don’t think demp is gonna hit…

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 17, 2008 5:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Via Gordon Whittenmyer

The right stuff vs. Rays: Johnson, Theriot, Lee, Ramirez, Soto (DH), DeRosa (RF), Murton (LF), Blanco, Cedeno.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Lou is going to give Soto more off days for this series and next.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Gordo

have a line-up for the Croc-Hunter killers?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Line-Ups Via Yahoo

R. Johnson cf
R. Theriot ss
D. Lee 1b
A. Ramirez 3b
G. Soto dh
M. DeRosa rf
M. Murton lf
H. Blanco c
R. Cedeno 2b

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on Jun 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i had a fealing soto was gonna dh and fukudome was gonna get the night off

by Donbedouin on Jun 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why cedeno at 2B?

He should be the SS, not Theroit.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even though

RC is far superior defensively to the Riot, Lou is not going to move the Riot over to second for a game or two… He’s earned his spot at shortstop. RC can play the whole infield with that Dunston like cannon of his.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i kinda hope lou throws in one lefty to break it up….

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jun 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright off to the fairgrounds

y’all are in charge of eating coco puffs and cheering on the cubbies! :-)

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 17, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, Heaven.

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like...

Iowa is more like the great flood of Noah’s Ark at this point in time. Glad my family is on high & dry ground.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indiana

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just took a look at her profile...

Guess I could have figured that out for myself… Thanks though.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 17, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Prob

We had that whole 4-H/Fairgrounds/County fair discussion last week. LOL.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep she is in Indiana

again random something I remember. proof again needing a hobby

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 17, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of looking at her profile,

It looks like we share an NHL fandom! Wanna come over and not watch the game next season?

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure what's creepier.

That comment, or the fact that she’s left for the night.

;)

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohhhh...

I thought you implying she come over, and instead of watch the game you could, you know…

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I got it right.

I incorrectly inferred what you were implying.

But let’s not get started on whoever/whomever.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(Yes, I know, just referencing it)

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, in that case

it was actually Creed who explained the difference.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but Toby took a stab

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Toby made the comment

that all the suggestions in the suggestion box were for Michael. Michael responded, “Well, if you are inferring that I have BO” at which point Creed pointed out his mistake.

I know too much about that show.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What are you trying to insinuate?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I resemble that remark!

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So...

Catch 22.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A. Iwamura 2b
W. Aybar 1b
B.J. Upton cf
E. Hinske lf
E. Longoria 3b
C. Floyd dh
D. Navarro c
G. Gross rf
J. Bartlett ss

by JB 23 on Jun 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure

AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Johnson cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267
R. Theriot ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .310
D. Lee 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
A. Ramirez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
G. Soto dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288
M. DeRosa rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299
M. Murton lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .214
H. Blanco c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
R. Cedeno 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .287

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry, the D Rays lineup...

A. Iwamura 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273
W. Aybar 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
B.J. Upton cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293
E. Hinske lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
E. Longoria 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249
C. Floyd dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
D. Navarro c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .327
G. Gross rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243
J. Bartlett ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249

by Geo4MVP on Jun 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's gonna be tough watching Cliffy this series...

...he was one of my favorite Cubs.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least

it’s somebody we don’t have to be afraid to run on.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll never forget

the game back after his father passed away… I was at home w/ my parents and that whole situation really hit home… he’s a great guy and deserves the team Tampa has right now… I’m happy he’s doing well and wish him the best… once the Cubs leave town ;-)

by lswaidz on Jun 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I watched the end of that Sox-Rays game where he jacked a home run to win it. Sweet.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has ALWAYS been one of my favorites.....

Man, when he came up, Willie McCovey with speed. It is too bad he has be so injured. I think he hits the ball harder than anyone in the game….man, what a talent.

by crazymountain on Jun 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Year's Six Flags Ad Strategy:

1. Begin with stereotypical Asian accent.
2. Once we’re done with that, show the rides, but bring him back to yell the catchphrase at the end.
3. Rip off PTI and SportsCenter’s rundown format with talking heads, throw in the stereotype at the end again.
4. ....
5. Profit!

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unicorn=good idea

MDBNIU=better idea.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 5:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol I like, I like!

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it's in Van Nuys,

pay not attention to the name; it’s “off-limits” entertainment.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, the airport?

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not exactly ;-)

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The printing company I work for...

specializes in the construction/architectural industry…(think blueprints but digital now). It’s not very “graphic”...I just happen to have a warped mind and photoshop.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahh, I see.

Well I’m glad BCB gives you a creative outlet. : )

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just when I think you've peaked,

you do something greater.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TWSS

When I can’t impress you, Sue, Northsider, DigitalBen, NeverAqui, or Al…that’s when I know it’s time it hang up the mouse.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude...

I totally forgot about that. I gotta get off my donkey and get Joe the extra shirt.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you ever fail to impress me,

it’s an easy recovery: boobs.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The people who run MLB?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, the ones that run Jessica Simpson's career

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Her dad?

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by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um, no.

These.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never really made it past "these"

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They..ummm...I mean she looks fine to me..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 6:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta help a girl with a hot tub....

.....hopefully she’ll have the game on. ( and I get the hot tub fixed) LOL. See ya guys later.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 17, 2008 5:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"accidentally"

The bullshit flag has been posted.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seconded.

Motion passes.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 17, 2008 5:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not touching that comment.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 17, 2008 5:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Charmed life.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just had comcast installed today

so first time i get to watch CSN since i moved to Chicago. . . but i’ll be on a flight to Miami during the game.

curses.

by noiseboy on Jun 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn.

Cable became the latest casualty of the awesome economic upswing borne on the latest round of tax cuts. I am now among the cable-less. Mourn with me, fellow Romans

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My deepest sympathies, GV.

Do you at least have high-speed internet so that you can watch the archive?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that's kind of lame

since I already know the result.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it will make you feel better,

I live where CSN doesn’t, so I’m effectively cable-less on non-WGN days too. Thankfully, I at least have Gameday Audio working on my new computer.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I live in town, so i get Ronnie and Pat.

It’s not a total loss.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Ron again..

Mr. Excitement, Dave Otto..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just heard. Damn.

Dave Otto is as exciting as whale shit.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs