Open Thread: Cubs vs. Rays, Thursday 6/19, 6:10 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 19, 2008 3:31 PM CDT
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Can anyone explain to me why this is a night game? I thought MLB had rules requiring teams to schedule day games whenever there was a flight by one of the departing getaway day teams (the Cubs, in this case), of more than two hours. Looking at the Rays schedule, I notice they didn't have any problems scheduling a weekday afternoon game on July 23 and August 6, when THEY are the team that has to go on a road trip.
This is really unfair to the Cubs, who probably won't get home tonight till after midnight. Ted Lilly, who is tomorrow's scheduled starter, is either back in Chicago already or on his way home now, so at least he'll be rested. THIS is the bad scheduling we should be complaining about, not the detour to Cooperstown earlier this week.
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Neither of these pitchers has ever faced the other. James Shields is another in the Tampa Bay collection of tall (6-4), skinny (215) pitchers who don't walk a lot of guys. Shields' ERA is good (3.91), but his W-L record mediocre (4-5). A clue to that can be found in the HR allowed (10). Hope the Cubs have their power-hitting shoes on tonight. Shields has held Reed Johnson, in their AL days, to 1-for-9. Normally, Johnson wouldn't likely play vs. the RHP Shields, but if Jim Edmonds can't go tonight, Johnson may have to start.
Today's game is a cable extravaganza: CSN in Chicago, FSN in Florida, EI, and the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Today's overflow comment threads will post at 7:15 pm and 8:15 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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you did not say FIRST
What is the matter with you Get those priorities straight.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 19, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
G'day all
Be nice if the bats woke up
"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went
Cross your fingers...
Let’s hope the doctors can give us good news on Z after they check him out…be brave little Z-Man!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
WOW!
Hands down the best one yet Santos. ROTFLMAO!!!
by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 19, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks
like he’s grown a nice pair under that shirt.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 19, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
chubbified
little arms, tho.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
bro
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 19, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
that....
looks like me after i got through crying my eyes out after the 7th inning last night.
Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!
Toronto
tries to pull a Cubs comeback but fall short. Milwaukee wins 8-7
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
How about..
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL - WTF?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I'm still more worried about STL
They have the better pitching.
by salparadise23 on Jun 19, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
They do?
You consider Wellemeyer and Lohse “better pitching”?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Better pitching than MIL
Not better than the Cubs.
by salparadise23 on Jun 19, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we can get a nice lead early
and sneak players off the field to catch flights throughout the game…. (“who’s in left? Um, peanut guy”)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Hey Al....can you shed some insight here on Big Z????
Any word on when you think we will hear anything? I would have expected to have some more news by now and I feel like the longer this drags on, the worse chance it is that the injury will be serious….thanks.
Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right.
Henry Ford
by BLW Believes Esq. on Jun 19, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
MRI and Arthrogram tommorrow
He was examined today. We will hear more after the two test tomorrow.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Hammer....
How did you come into that information??? Source?
Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right.
Henry Ford
by BLW Believes Esq. on Jun 19, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
From Chicago Triburne Hardball
Zambrano was examined by Cubs orthopoedist Stephen Gryzlo on Thursday in Chicago, and was scheduled to have an MRI on his shoulder on Friday, sources said. Zambrano said after Wednesday’s game he hoped the problem was just tendinitis, in which case he could rest for a start or two while taking anti-inflammatories to reduce the swelling.
The Cubs had no update on Zambrano as of late Thursday afternoon in St. Pete. They’re likely to wait for the results of Zambrano’s MRI before making an announcement, so the news may have to wait until Saturday.
Zambrano is next scheduled to pitch on Tuesday against Baltimore are Wrigley Field, though that start appears to be out of the question at this point.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 19, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we just have to wait.
... and no, it doesn’t matter how long we wait, the length of the wait for information has nothing to do with the severity of the injury.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Just saw Tribune live on the mix channel
No Z Tuesday, Pinella says Marshall throwing strikes and a good choice
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Big test to keep the record
of never losing three in a row this year. I see this aas a challenge tonight. Let rip off AT LEAST 4 in a row!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
My wife hates it when I do that...
but my kids and I think it’s Hi-larry-us!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be nice to take the lead
for a change. Seems like we are always falling behind first and having to play catch up.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
Nope, Tampa got 1 run in the first.
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CHC_0_0_2_0_1_0_0_0_14
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Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Great. I try to use _ to fix the formatting and it still screws it up.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Nope.
Rays scored in the bottom of the first, Cubs took the lead back in the 3rd, then gave it back.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
We're generous like that recently.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano voo doo
He will be fine!!!! I COMMAND THE!!!!
Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right.
Henry Ford
by BLW Believes Esq. on Jun 19, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
Mike Quade?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Cubs Lineup for tonight
CF Fukudome
SS Theriot
1B Lee
3B Ramirez
DH Soto
LF Hoffpauir
RF DeRosa
C Blanco
2B Fontenot
Roster is getting a bit short if Johnson & Edmonds are hurting & unavailable…..praying for good news on Z…..
wow.
the shine sure came off Murton fast. let’s hope Gallagher can keep the ball on the ground.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Typically bad line up by Lou
I have said this numerous times but ever since I went to a game in Philly in April I lost
respect for Lou as a strategic manager. In that game he used EVERY position player in a 9 innings
( and no one was injured or unavailable except Marquis). The game went 10 and the Cubs were lucky to win because of an error when they used Z to pinch hit. Why would ANY manager put two catchers in the line up unless both of them were GREAT hitters or one was a great hitter and a TERRIBLE fielder. This is not the case. It would make MUCH more sense to play Murton in LF , DeRossa at 2Band let Hoffpauir DH . Lou NEVER thinks more than a batter a head and constantly overuses the bench and the bullpen. The Cubs are winning which covers a lot of his bad decisions up but I seriously believe they win despite Lou and not because of him.
I am sure this is not a popular view but is one I have held since April and overuse of Z & Marmol
the underuse of Lieber ( and most of the rest of the BP) the coddling of Soriano by keeping him at
lead off along with the above mentioned horrible use of the bench has only re-enforced my belief.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 19, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you
that I’m not a big fan of Lou’s use of his bench. However, in this case, he needs to play Hoffpauir tonight to determine whether to keep him up after leaving AL parks. If he needs to call up Pie without putting Edmonds or RJ on the DL, Hoffpauir will be the one to go.
As for Soto/Blanco, he needs Soto’s hot bat, but wants him available to catch vs. the Sox tomorrow afternoon.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Correction...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
OF defense is ugly
PIE——Please find your swing.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
He's hitting .306 over the last 10 games
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Still has back trouble from Tuesday's collision.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I vote nay
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Nay
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Correct.
It’s closer to five seconds.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs travel
I read that the Cubs are spending the night in TB tonight and flying back early in the morning. Sort of makes sense, unless they have the same luck as me at airports.
Their logic doesn't resemble our earth logic
It’s a 1:20 start tomorrow. I’d think they would want to get here tonight.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Do you have a source?
...Almost ALL MLB teams leave right after thier game on get away day so as to have a time buffer for travel issues. I really doubt they are spending the night
Where did you read this?
Got a source you can post?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Bad Travel Last Season
If I remember correctly, the Cubs played night games in both Atlanta and Arlington, TX, (on different nights) before playing day games in Chicago the next day in 2007.. Atlanta and Arlington are both closer to Chicago than Tampa is to Chicago. Tropicana Field has a dome. The Tampa heat shouldn’t be a problem indoors. Play a day game. I can see why playing a day game outdoors in June in Arlington was a bad idea. This is a terrible travel situation for the Cubs..
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
MLB doesn't allow that.
The HoF game was an exhibition, so those rules didn’t count.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Damn it AFN!!
The Cubs game isn’t being shown live, instead at midnight local time I get Astros/Orioles. yawn….
The game will be on tape-delay at 8am, but I’ll be in my new empty house waiting for the movers to come!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
Doesn't Lou live in TB?
Maybe he misses his pillow?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
Somehow the Rays have been able to schedule night games on the oppositions get away day
...for years. Its the only way they can get anyone to show up to their games during the week. IIRC the AL East teams particularly the Red Sox and Yankees have complained about this for quite some time.
I assume the league lets it slide since they know they are desperate for attendance and they just look the other way.
Really?
Its Florida…everyone who lives in Florida is OLD, old people dont work, the complain (and drive poorly)
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Hey, judging by the commercials WGN broadcasts during the Cubs games...
The average Cub fan is incontinent, pees a lot and needs his enlarged prostate taken care of, requires Levitra for a decent sex life, and has arthritis! :-)
You're already slurring
sure you need a bar tonight ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Ha, trying to figure out which one
I already hate just about all of them. Im tired of all the frat boys from NIU taking over the bar and talking out of their asses
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I'm sure the ladies love that one
should be easy picking if that’s your competition ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Actually I think ill just head to the liqour store under the sheridan stop
slam through a few people asking for change and watch at home
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Nailed it.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
don't forget that
prescription to Valtrex
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jun 19, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey!!!!
I resemble that remark….....I used to be young…..wasted my youth during that time…...Next life, I am gonna start retired, have fun and then, when I turn 50, start working…....
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exactly why Bud Selig must go!
Having the Cubs play a night game on a get away day from the east coast so that Tampa can get fans in the ballpark is a crock of crap. If they can’t get fans to the ball park, that’s not MLB’s problem, that is the franchises’ problem. They can’t even make a financial go of it with all the luxury tax money they get. Tampa should have been contracted years ago. It’s time to balance the NL and AL.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LSA
And when they are contradicted, we will take Crawford, Shields and Kazmir
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
No, Tampa Bay!
NO!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Better than constipated.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the way you think!
If there are less teams then the cream, (talent), rises to the top. Less teams, more legitimate talent in MLB, more competitive play, and more financially competitive franchises. Lastly, I’d like Crawford, Sheets & Kazmir in a Cub uni. by the deadline. J/K. A guy can dream, right?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
The more prudent thing to do...
is simply combine the two Florida teams into one franchise…of course…the problem of where they would play could easily be solved…the 1st half of the season they play in ProPlayer, and the 2nd half at the Trop. The good young players they have would be a force for a decade to come if they had the $ to keep them all. Call the new team the Florida Manatees.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No team would want to do that.
Two home cities and home parks? A logistical nightmare.
But I agree, one of the Florida teams will eventually have to go. But they’ll build new stadiums first, to see what they can squeeze out of the FL taxpayers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
They both should be contracted.
They should have been contracted years ago. MLB in Florida was a bad idea to begin with, and the uh, “fans”, have proven as such with their lack of attendance. Florida used to be for spring training, and it was fine that way… until Bud “the used car salesman” came along and tried all kinds of novel ideas to make more money. You don’t want to get me started on Selig. I believe he has done more to harm the game than any other comish in history. Interleague play: hate it. All-Star game decides who has home field advantage in the WS: hate it. Wildcard: hate it. All bad ideas to make more money from the schlock in Milwaukee.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the natural interleague rivalries, don't like the contrived ones. But I do like the wild card.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Hey northsider!
I hate the wild card for one reason only. The wildcard delegitamizes the 162 season. The Cubs got knocked out in the ‘03 NLCS by a team that did not earn its’ way into the postseason. Why should a team that can’t win its’ division be allowed into the postseason? They had 162 games to prove they were a better team, now they get a chance to knock out a divison winner? Not fair.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a little flip, yes.
I like having all four teams make it, the four best teams in the league. It’s not like the wild card was chosen at random and, say, the Pirates won the lottery. They proved themselves over 162 games too.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
That's not the point.
If a team plays a 162- game schedule and wins their division, they have already proven that they belong in the post season. If they can’t win their division in 162 games, why should a division winner have to beat a second place team in the post season? They shouldn’t have to prove it again. The post season is for first place teams, they earned it. A wild card winner proves that they can get hot at the right time and are fortunate enough that two other second place teams didn’t have a better over all record. The major league schedule of 162 games was instituted to prove over a long grinding season who deserves a chance to go to the WS. The wild-card was instituted to generate interest, and subsequently make more money.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't the whole playoffs all about proving it again?
Sorry, but I don’t buy this argument. You still have to win in the playoffs. And a lot of times the Wild Card winner has a better record than some of the other division winners.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
And that's why I like it.
Getting more fans interested in baseball is a good thing to me.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
But the Wild Card
provides the “best of the rest” a chance to earn their way in. And it evens things out. Would you have the best of the three divisions sit idle while the other two play for the right to play them in the LCS?
Plus, as I mentioned before, in 2003 the Wild Card Marlins were, in terms of W-L record, BETTER than us.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
(weird, erased the rest)
But the Wild Card provides the “best of the rest” a chance to earn their way in. Besides, would you have the best team of the three divisions sit idle while the other two battle to play them in the LCS? Or back to two divisions (NEVER gonna happen)?
Plus, as I mentioned before, the 2003 Wild Card Marlins were BETTER than us in terms of W-L records.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Four Divisions, Four Winners?
The NL has 16 teams. Would you prefer the NL have four, four-team divisions with only the four first place teams making the playoffs? That is what is done in the Pacific Coast League.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
He doesn't know what he wants.
He only knows what he doesn’t want. Not one post has proposed an idea, only ripped on the current one.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Go back and read
I was never proposing anything. My point was that the wild-card allows second place teams a chance to go the post-season. I maintain that if a team can not win its’ division, against their division. Then they get a chance to take out a division winner? I maintain and stand on the belief that this is not fair.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is it not fair?
What’s inherently unfair about it?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yes you do...
over and over and over again….
I tell my kids to either get over it, come up with a solution, or shut up about it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly! You haven't proposed anything!
If you’re gonna complain about the fairness of the situation, or in your opinion, lack thereof, propose an idea of how to “fix” it!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry but I don't agree
When one division winner can have 95 wins, the second-place team 94, and another division winner having 83 wins, that’s not fair either. Especially with an unbalanced schedule. Besides, all through sports it’s about giving the ‘underdog’ a chance. everyone loves cinderella comes march, right?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Butttttttt
the Marlins had a better record than us that year.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And they won the WS
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I seem to remember that.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Please...
refresh our memories!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm...
no.
Happy thoughts, SWL, happy thoughts.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that Wrigley
or Yankee Stadium?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
:provides shoulder:
It’s all just a blur of hate.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
The only problem
with your argument is…under the rules of MLB….the wildcard team has “earned it’s way into the postseason.”
I understand what your problem is…however…there are times when the wildcard has a better record than one or more division winners…see posts above.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
But...
Did they win their division? No. Did they beat out any other division winners? No. They came in SECOND place. Why should they have to prove it again in the post-season? Why play 162 games? The wild-card allows unworthy teams a chance to knock out teams that played their butts off to win their division.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Remind me again why the Patriots weren't crowned
With the Super Bowl title after the regular season was over???
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
We are not talking about Football.
We are talking baseball. NFL plays 18 games, MLB plays 162. Besides, that is how the NFL is set up.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
weak arguement
this is how mlb is set up.
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
My point is not weak, nor is my argument.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope...
Because it follows solid logic. And relies on the standards that were established by MLB and proven out over many years, until of course Bud came along and instituted the wild card.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So back to East and West divisions?
You’ve yet to lay out your course of action.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
While we're at it, let's go back to only one league and, say, 8 teams. This is not "solid logic".
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
if water is solid, so is your logic.
brrrrr, so cold!
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
Logic
My logic is solid because we are talking about MLB, not the NFL. Comparing how the NFL, NBA or even the NHL sets up their playoffs is not germaine to this argument. It has no import. Now, if we want to compare, we have to compare apples with apples, not apples with oranges.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
We're talking about MLB, too.
Pronouncing your opinion as “solid” is no way to win an argument.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I was replying to people
comparing how the NFL allows teams in the playoffs. It is not relevant because my contention is that MLB should get rid of the wild card. My argument is based on the standard that was set-up and proven over many years that second place teams in MLB go home. The reasoning is that if a team can not prove it is worthy to win the WS by winning their division over 162 games, why should they get another chance to beat a team that proved itself worthy? Because they won more games than two other second place teams? Not logical, not fair, not legitimate. Lastly, once again, I didn’t say I had it figured out, or what I would like them to do.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So this is just a piss and moan party?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm, how is comparing the ways that various professional sports create their playoff structures not relevant to discussing how a professional sport structures its playoffs?
by the way, i dislike football and have no idea how they structure their playoffs.
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
So you want
1) 4 divisions in each league (nightmare realignment)
2) the team with the best record from each league to get an automatic spot in the LCS (fair?)
3) a round robin tournament of the 3 postseason winners (like soccer?)
1, 2, or 3???????
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
So would it be "fair"
when a just above .500 team makes the playoffs while a near-100-game-winner second place team sits at home? Especially is said second place team beat up on the division winner throughout the season?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
What isn't fair
Is a team that proves it worth over 162 games can get knocked out by a team that didn’t even win it’s division. These teams play 162 games to see if they have what it takes to win it all, it’s a process of elimination of winners. Not losers. Not second place teams.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair?
2003 Cubs, Central Champions: 88-74
2003 Marlins, Wild Card: 91-71
Sounds fair to me.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, some of those second place teams have better records than the other division winners.
It’s not these teams’ fault that everyone else plays in a crappy division. You can’t get the Wild Card without “proving your worth” over 162 games just like everyone else. Teams that “get hot” right at the end of the season win Divisions too. Your argument just doesn’t keep up, and proclaiming it “solid” doesn’t make it so.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Sure.
Division winners do get hot at the end. However, they win their division. A wild-card winner proves it came in second place.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Again.
2003 Cubs: 88-74
2003 Marlins: 91-71
Which team did a better job of proving itself?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
It's not the Marlins' fault the other divisions sucked compared to theirs.
How is that fair for the Marlins to sit at home in October with a better record?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Because.
They did not win their division.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Simple
Cubs. They won their division. The Marlins won the wild card by winning a majority of their non-divisional games. What if the Marlins would have beaten the Braves to go to the ‘03 WS? If Atlanta won the majority of the games against their division, esp. the Marlins, why should they have to prove it again vs. the Marlins? Not fair to the division winners.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, it is.
The WC cannot, repeat, cannot play the winner of its own division in the opening round of the playoffs. If they meet in the LCS, it means they were better than the two teams they beat.
Plus, this is the only way we’ll one day get to beat the Cardinals to go to the World Series!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it isn't.
If they meet in the LCS, they have proven that they could win a series of games against a team they already placed second to, they lost their division.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That is categorically false.
The Marlins won the wild card by winning a majority of their non-divisional games.
1st place Atlanta in 2003: 41-35 (.539) vs NL East
2nd place Florida in 2003: 48-28 (.632) vs NL East, 19-20 vs Central, 15-17 vs West
Try again.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
You don't have to prove it to me.
I take you at your word.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
P.S. Just for fun,
the Cubs were 15-15 against the same Eastern division that Florida absolutely dominated.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Let's finish this another day
in a fan post. We’ll get Gary Varsho in on it. I know he’s studying philosophy. We discussed this once as I am a degreed philosopher. I think he can establish what is following sound logic, and what is not sound. I don’t want to talk about this anymore. I want to watch the game. I just heard Hank throw out Crawford. I want to see it.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy Crap...you're entering MDBNIU territory.
Under your requirements…each league should only have 1 division…that way the winner of each division will not have to take the chance of losing to any team that
a) didn’t also win their division
and
b) has a worse record than they do
On second thought…how about we just decide the winner of the WS by simply looking at the records of all the teams!
Congratulations to the 2001 WS Champion Seattle Mariners!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't set up any
requirements, I didn’t propose anything. I stated that I don’t believe the wild card is grounded in logical fairness. I based my contention on the logical argument that baseball set up and proved over many years. This is based on the 162 game schedule. Do not compare me to Blue Mike. I know more about baseball first of all, second I will admit when I am wrong.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Haven't set up any requirements?
You base your entire complaint on the fact that a team that hasn’t won it’s division can knock out a division winner. You keep referencing “logic” as the reason you don’t like the wildcard, and for all your complaining, you haven’t given anyone one single alternative to the current format. I’ve given you a few choices, and you’ve ignored them. You’re making the MBDNIU reference for me.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't propose what to do.
I established a discussion on whether or not the wild card is fair. I cited logic to bolster my side of the argument. I was arguing my point, not complaining. I never wanted to propose alternatives. In order to have a discussion, or an argument if you prefer, one does not have to propose alternatives. Alternatives will not lend credence to my contention. This is all boilerplate though. I want to watch the game. Let it go.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Baseball is set up
in divisions. Teams play against their division to decide who has the right to go to the post-season. They don’t play a majority of their games against the other two divisions. They play them against their division to see if they are the best team of the four, five, six, whatever.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Take Away WC Home Games?
Would it be more fair to have the wild card team only get 1 home playoff game in the LDS and only 2 home playoff games in the LCS?
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
Tampa will be a great market...
...just watch. The biggest problem is where they play—no one wants to go the Dome, when there is literally no neighborhood around it, nothing to do, and the venue sucks. Throw in their up until recently bad ownership/management, and you see why fans haven’t shown up.
When the Rays get their new field on the water, they’ll DEFINITELY draw well…just like every other Tampa franchise (Lightning, Buccaneers) once they improved the product on the field and the stadium experience…
I hate sitting in the previous thread
and wondering where everyone went.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
LOL
Did you turn off light when you left?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
BCB is nothing if not green.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
just out of curiosity
have any of you guys read the drays blog? They have some interesting views on fandom. They don’t seem to understand why someone would stick with a team when they havent lived anywhere near that city for years. I’ve been tempted to jump into the fray, but I really didn’t feel like adding any other comments.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Umm..because fandom is like a religion?
And when you’re young and bond with a team, often times it is for life? What is hard to drays fan about the word “bonding”?
It's hard to understand when...
... your city has only had a team for ten years, and you’ve never really known anything else.
FYI, Patrick Kennedy, the Rays blogger, is smart and a good writer… and 16 years old. That ought to explain some of it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
it wasn't so much him as it was the other commentors
and i’ll second you on that Al. He runs a good blog.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Patrick has been on BCB before.
Here he weighed in on the Cubs’ hiring of Piniella back in ought-six.
He also felt fit to vote “Nay!” on the poll question “Reed Johnson?”. lol
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
IIRC
San Diego Jazzman has had similiar problems with Padres fans. I don’t agree with their comments, but I’m not going to tell them how to be a fan. Fandom is different to different people. I chose the Cubs for certain reasons and at this point a move across the country wouldn’t change that. Some people don’t feel that way about their teams. That’s fine. It’s just different
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I've been in MN now for three years
I am going to be here for a long time to come, I can’t even fathom rooting for a team other than the Cubs, although I do root for the Twins because they are adverse to the Sox
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
ahh the twins....
yeah I don’t mind the twins. I’ve actually been somewhat impressed with how they have ran things up there the past 10 years or so. they dont keep players, but they are always competitive it seems.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I've had this conversation
with people from time to time and they just don’t understand. I wouldn’t bother making comments on that site.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 19, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I read that yesterday in their recap thread.
I get it in St Louis, too.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
CUBS ACQUIRE LINCECUM for "Get Better Soon" greeting card mailed to Sabean, who was so moved he gave us Tim
Source: Last night’s dream
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
4 game lead now that STL lost.
Lets make it 4.5!
OT - 1000 comments
Just posted my 1000 comment here at BCB! See…
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I assume you meant "prize."
What was that I read about drinking up above?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is there a red rectangle up there?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
it was a screenshot of 1000 comments
don’t know why it just turned into a red square…
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Communism.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought
Although he would need to change to “Lou in Red”
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Thats gonna bug me. It was there, then it wasn't.
“Say what you will…. About the tenants of National Socialism, at least its an Ethos”
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
LOL
Its that communist block again!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Then again, MY computer never browses the red websites.........
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
TWSS
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Ding Ding
points awarded
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I dunno.
Maybe if it was “flick.”
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll allow it...
but watch yourself in the courtroom….you’re walking a thin line.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I apologize.
It was a premature exclamation.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Shazam.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Your 1000th post is the "Crimson Anniversary"...
right?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
remember, im an idiot
really though, i am trying to leave work early and typing fast (not work typing)
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
One more college try
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
3-3 Road Trip
Would be fine with me. We would be 4.5 games up and keep the Brewers as far back as possible. Go CUBS!
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
Why am I obssessing about a large Venezuelen man's shoulder all day??
Hmmmm…..I can’t stop thinking about Z….need a distraction…...
You'll get one in 90 minutes.
Hang in there!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Im out
See you all in the overflow thread
P.S. Why the hell do the White Sox need 60 minutes of postgame
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Good news: found out the first game is on WGN tomorrow.
Bad new: White Sox feed. Ugh.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Good news 720am
LINE DRIVE DOWN THE LEFT FIELD LIIIIIIIIIIIIINEEEEE…..........FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Don't get it here.
880 used to but not anymore.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
good job patrick!...DEEP DRIVE….WAAYYYYY BACCCCKKK….THAT BALLSS GOTTTAAA CHANCE…........CAUGHT AT THE WARNING TRACK..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
That's followed by a Santo
“Ohhhh, gah! Ma-an!”
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...
will the Sox feed broadcast the stretch? Or only CSN?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
They usually don't.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Opressive bastards.
Oh well. I’ll be at work enjoying it with all of you anyway!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He gone!
I guess I’ll be listening to the radio.
by salparadise23 on Jun 19, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
AFN Games next few days...
Live
MLB on Superstation WGN: Chicago White Sox @ Chicago Cubs
AFN|prime atlantic : Sat 6/21/2008 1800
(Good news – TV …. Bad news – unwatchable)
Live
ESPN Sunday Night Baseball: Chicago White Sox @ Chicago Cubs
AFN|sports : Mon 6/23/2008 0100
(Good news – TV … Bad news – I work in the morning!)
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That's WGN America, buddy.
TV you can’t f’n ignore!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The American Forces
Radio and Television Service, ultimately under the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs hasn’t gotten the memo yet.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jun 19, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Paperwork schmaperwork.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Dad Gum Duck Snorts!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
OT: "The Love Guru" looks terrible. At least it has multiple Academy Award-winner Jessica Alba to give a strong, rousing performance.
Yes, rousing. What? Why are you making that face?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Don't you mean "arousing"?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
t
like that. I take license on the word “part” all the time. It’s “part” for the course!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Night Game/Travel/Day Game
Al, do you know if the restriction on this is in MLB rules or in the players’ union collective bargaining agreement? I can’t find it in the former, and can’t find a copy of the latter on-line. If the former, presumably Selig can waive it; if the latter, it’s grievable.
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Never Mind, Found It
“Other getaway games shall not be scheduled or rescheduled to start
later than 5 P.M. if either Club is required to travel for a day game,
scheduled the next day, between cities in which the in-flight time is
more than 11⁄2 hours. In each season, the championship season
schedule may contain six exceptions to the rule in the immediately
preceding sentence provided that the traveling Club is traveling to
Chicago to play the Cubs and the in-flight time does not exceed 21⁄2
hours. “
So tonight’s start is a violation of the CBA?
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Really sounds like it.
Spot the Cubs two runs.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Al East teams have been complaining about this for some time now.
King Bud and Prince Fehr can’t bothered to get off the royal asses and do anything about it, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I knew there was a rule covering this.
Tampa should NOT be doing this. I’m surprised the Cubs didn’t raise a bigger stink about this.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Can't watch tonight
but somebody let us know if our announce teams mention this.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they can refuse to take the field...
until their demands are met…like the Red Sox during Spring Training.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Naked pictures of Bea Arthur?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that's a scary thought.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
That's the anti-viagra
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Antiagra.
For when you just don’t wanna.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The BCB Dictionary awaits...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, God...
Well, what did I expect?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Call me creepy...but
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, that's just wrong.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yeah, I am, too, but
given the way the Red Sox’, Orioles’, and Yankees’ complaints have been generally ignored over the past couple years, I guess the Cub felt a “pick your battles” approach was best.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
If the Sox and Yanks aren't heard, nobody will be.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't understand why the Rays are allowed to get away with this.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Nor can I.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Al,
To answer your question about travel, the CBA’s rules about night game followed by day game with travel don’t apply to the:
1. Cubs (due to Wrigley restrictions being “unfair” to other teams)
2. Rangers (June to Sep. due to heat of day games)
3. Marlins (same as Rangers)
Under normal circumstances, teams will schedule day games for the Cubs as a courtesy, expecting reciprocation from the Cubs for their get-away days. (i.e., the Pirates will schedule a day game and expect the Cubs to do the same for them). Because the Rays won’t play the Cubs for at least 3 more years, they aren’t concerned with reciprocation, only with ticket sales.
It sucks, but the CBA allows the Cubs to be screwed.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
And now I have a reason to rejoice the
inevitable second half collapse of the Rays.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Pardon me, but point one is bullshit.
If the Rays had any class they’d schedule a day game anyway as a courtesy. Here’s to never playing in Tampa (except if needed in October) again.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on the CBA rule...
... it only applies in this case if you are going to Chicago TO play the Cubs, not if you ARE the Cubs. In this case the Cubs’ upcoming opponent is already in Chicago.
It’s still wrong and unfair and it appears to violate the CBA rule.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Perhaps we could get Jimmeatworld to complain about it on the Cubs' behalf?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
How about we just stomp and mudhole in the Rays ass and walk it dry?
Let’s do getaway day right.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No better day to do it
than when the Cards lose.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
But when they ask for his solution...?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Stay on point!
We’re complaining about the unfairness.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Right!
So, in summation, you’re a poophead and unfair.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So all sorts of caveats and adendums are made
for teams coming to play us, but not for us? Right.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's BP's interpretation of that section:
The last game of any other series can’t start after 5 p.m. if either club is scheduled for a day game the next day, in a city more than a 90-minute flight away. This rule recognizes the Cubs’ unique circumstances-the ordinance authorizing night games at Wrigley Field limits them to 18 home night games per season-by authorizing six exceptions per year for clubs traveling to Chicago to play the Cubs, so long as they’re coming from a city less than a two-and-a-half-hour flight away.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
So nothing about the Cubs going home for their own day game, huh?
To quote a certain poster here, THAT’S UNFAIR~!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Now if someone would untangle that mess of english lawyerspeak...
so’s us loons can understandz it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Because the Cubs play more day
games than anyone else, there are six exceptions to the “no night game on getaway day” clause, and those are for when teams are traveling to Chicago to play a day game agaisnt the Cubs.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
But that sounds like it would be in a situation
where, say, the Diamondbacks schedule a night game with the Cardinals, when the Cards play a day game with the Cubs the next day. Not for a game involving the Cubs themselves.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, but the flight time can't be more than 2 1/2 hrs
and from Tampa, it is. It seems this rule should protect the Cubs in this instance, but the Rays exploiting the exact ambiguity you’re pointing out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah.
My reading of it is that the the visiting team is “protected” by forcing a day game, and each home team has six vetoes to that policy. The Cubs themselves? Well, they’re SOL in any situation.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think, loosely, it states
Cubs lose. Hulk smash.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah....very well put.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think ESPN said so earlier today.
Here’s hoping it’s precautionary and nothing more.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
SportsCenter just talked about it
Said the Cubs would be looking at Burnett, Byrd, or Wolfe…
BTW: Burnett gave up 8 runs and 8 hits today… a game that included a Prince Fielder inside the park home run… check the infield for craters!
Perhaps they told Prince an IRS agent
was after him. He owes $409,000 in back taxes.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Z to miss Tuesday start
MRI tomorrow – looks like the Cubs will have to make a roster move or two. Look for Sean Marshall or Donnie Veal to pitch Tuesday.
They should just call up Harden....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
/slaps forehead
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I saw that too
So, Kaplan is really MDBNIU?
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not Lieber?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 19, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Who?
I just texted Lou on his blackberry that question…and that was his answer.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
This will be Tuesday's starter, after throwing 3 innings on Monday, so he'll be good and warmed up:
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
The horror.
The horror.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope Lou doesn't use Marmol like
I really hope Lou doesn’t use Marmol like that.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Harden? Harden?
Where have I heard that name…?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
I was cleaning out my closet since school is over and I found these:
I can throw these out, right?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Trying to go to Santa Barbara, but a certain friend who owes me money is not being very reliable so I don't know how I'm going to survive.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Maybe you should call Marcellus Wallace
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Supposed to pay me back in Feb ... which became March ... then May ... still no money.
I was counting on that to go to S.B. So I’m hoping I get quite a graduation haul…
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Maybe Paulie Walnuts, then
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'll be back Friday.
And every Friday til you pay me back. Five points on the vig every week it’s not paid.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Five points!
Good lord, that’s 80% interest. You’re a tough guy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I prefer wise guy.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
awww...
you’ll find a way. You’ve proven to be quite resourceful… maybe we should paypal you for your pxp :-)
Who is this guy on Tribune Live? STOP PICKING AT YOUR FACE! You're on television!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Z to miss one or two starts(or worse)......Soriano out.....Johnson back spasms......
why can’t I just be allowed to enjoy the Cubs season without the angst????? Gaaaaaarrrrrrhhhhhh!!!!!! Trying not to go all negative and doomsday…...so hard….
wait for it...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I know...it's not fair is it?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My "unfairness alert" just went off.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't need White Sox coverage during Cubs pregame, Comcast Sports Net.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Good morning!
Though it’s early evening here!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Again this game is televised live on NHK-BS
Looks like Comcast feed, no log though
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohayo Gozaimasu
as it’s morning, Konnichiwa for afternoon
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Oki ni Nasarazuni
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone call WGN Radio and make sure they turn off the broadcast delay.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
No chance after that screaming asshat got on the air the whole game during the opener
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Lee smashes a ground-ball single to RF, 1 on, nobody out. First H of the series.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Ramirez flies out to the warning track in RF. Inning over. CHC 0 TB 0 Bot 1
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Seconded
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Damn.
Hughes made it sound like Rammy really got a hold of that..
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Pre game at noon
game at 120
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Has the coverage of Dome in the Japanese media slowed down a bit now that the season is going, or is it still pretty closely watched?
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All of his move is covered
not slowed down at all… but there are too many Japanese players now out there, not like Nomo @ LAD days
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He was expected to hit for a lot more power
than he actually has. Perhaps that’s part of the reason
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
he came up as a very, very hot 3b prospect
too bad that didn’t pan out, i actually drafted him on a fantasy team in the late rounds this year
Base hit for Crawford, short-hopped in Hoffpauir's glove. He stuck his glove out beside him and snared it. Yikes.
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He is a first baseman...a left fielder probably doesn't play it that way....
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
A left fielder makes the catch.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
As I said, it was a 1B play, LF plays differently
and, assuming the LH has more speed he would make the catch. Murton has it skip by him….
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
If that' the worst thing he does out there, fine,
but I fear worse things are to come. Career first basemen don’t morph into capable OF’ers.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
agreed....I think Pie needs to be here
defense is SO important
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Moreover, if he misses that and it goes to the wall, IPHR with Crawford running
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He's a bit of an adventure out there...
...but who else can play RF,LF 2nd and 3rd on a moments notice?
Not Hoffpauir.
Derosa can, but not Micah Hoffpauir.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
DeRo is soooo much more comfortable in RF than in LF.
I’d almost rather see him play CF than LF.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
BLANCO NAILS CRAWFORD AT SECOND! Inning over on the caught stealing!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Blanco!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You cant run on Hank White!!!!
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
He gone
The Rays’ announcers were just commenting on how Gallagher might be hard to run on, especially with Blanco behind the plate. Kudos to Gallagher on that one for giving Henry a chance.
Gotta love Hank White.
You could do a whole lot worse for a backup catcher.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
It wasnt even close
Great throw by Hank.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
Shields is throwing on 8 games rest
Should have control issues or be too strong – I’d like to see some line drives tonight
Hoff just missed a double.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
Anyone else watching these Tampon Bay announcers?
They don’t think too highly of Cub fans apparently…
They're used to an empty park.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Not too far off
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'd rather be lucky than good - Lefty Gomez
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
very snarky comment by them
when the fan caught the foul ball “A cub fan can do something with his other hand” .
"I like my players to be married and in debt. That's the way you motivate them." - Ernie Banks
Thats what I was talking about....
Is he master of his domain or what?
by LT on Jun 19, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
"LF" Hoffpauir goes golfing and lands a nice shot onto the green in CF, base hit.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
almost...very Vladesque.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember
Ichiro said “it was so fun”, even he was laughig right after he hit it
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
RF DeRosa strikes out on a foul tip into the glove. 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Blanco singles to RF! Hoffpauir stops at second. Runners at the corners, 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Well, both 2B and 1B ARE corners after all....
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Whiteout!....
and by out I mean not out…
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Note how Shields bends over once he gets his sign so he can peek at first base.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
If he did that when he came set, it'd be a balk. You can't turn your shoulders that far. A little bit of a built-in cheat to give himself a look at the runner...
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I used to do that all the time...
or I’d set up alot more “open” when I came set with a runner on first.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew someone would know what I'm saying...
And speaking as a 6-years-experienced umpire, I know all too well. You notice these things…
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I can't say that was totally unexpected.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got a "poor man's jambalaya" going on the stove
And good baseball on the TV, what more can you ask for – good food and Cubs baseball!
lol @ running the bases at Wrigley Field
Look at that pic. CLEARLY not Wrigley!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
It's never a good sign
when the crap is preceded by ouch.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You can tell Gallagher has the potential
Dude has really developed a plus fastball and he holds runners well. Like to see him work on his second and third pitches.
And work on them someplace other than these ML games that count.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hinske rips a single to LF on a ball Gallagher left up for him. Runners at 1st and 2nd, nobody out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
lucky it was only a single.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean
Longoria right?
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
How about both...
in that order.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Owls Make Fantastic Gifts?
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Floyd hits it to Lee, who loses it during the transfer from glove to hand. Bases are loaded. E3
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Mark Grace was better.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Aybar grounds to Lee again, 3-6-1. double play, but TB 1 CHC 0 Bot 2
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
wait for it...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It won the last 2....
just sayin’
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir!
I just don’t think that it will win this particular game tonight.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If we get out of this inning with just one run allowed
It should be a big boost for Gallagher and the team
Didn't we give up a run after an error last night?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
Here we go again
falling behind first. This pattern needs to stop.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
C Navarro drives a line drive caught by a running Kosuke Fukudome. Cubs escape. TB 1 CHC 0 Top 3
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
question, do you think the Lee error was partly due to Theriot not
being at 2nd so he hesitated? Or I am scrappy bashing?
Scoreboard
LAD 7
CIN 4 F
WSH 3
MIN 9 F
PIT 8
CWS 13 F
KC 4
STL 1 F
SD 1
NYY 2 F
ATL 4
TEX 5 F
TOR 7
MIL 8 F
OAK 1
ARI 2 F
HOU 2
BAL 0 Bottom 2nd
CLE 0
COL 0 Top 1st
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Can't say that was totally unexpected.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitchout with Fukudome running, they have him in a rundown. 2-3-4 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
wait, is that stronger than Cedeno! on the scale?
by LT on Jun 19, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Cedeno=shit
but we have Onedec now.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Lou...
the hit-and-run play hasn’t worked all series. But by all means…with the offense scuffling, keep trying it until it works…we have enough of a lead, we can afford to lose a couple more games in a row.
You fan,
SWL
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
Well...
it’s still not fair.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent...
I’m laughing my ass right now! You got me good, kinda like my older brother farting in my face when I was kid.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
How much older is he?
any chance you’ll get payback when he’s in a retirement home and can’t defend himself?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Only two and a half years.
I’ll get him back.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yolk?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You've heard that expression before haven't you?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It's OK....everyone deserves a second chance.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope he made a good funny on me...
I appreciate that.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone having issues with the HD feed?
CSN HD with Comcast, Bob and Len sound like they have the hiccups. Lol
All other HD channels are fine :(
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
Don't bother calling Customer Support
Recently ranked #2 worst support behind AOL Time Warner… and I agree…when it’s not busy (yeah, busy… Fortune 500 company, btw) you sit on hold for a good half hour
I work for Comcast
In a call center actually.
And I just got off the phone with them before the game on hold 2 minutes if that.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
Agreed, I had trouble with my digital box and I only had to wait maybe 10 minutes at the most during the whole ordeal
Maybe it’s just when you call that matters.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I've never had trouble being on hold long
I just have had lots of trouble talking to anyone who really knows anything about the sports packages.
by LT on Jun 19, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Since you mentioned sports packages
Comcast has agreed to carry The Big Ten Network as of August 15th.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
I will say in our area
Comcast recently acquired service from Insight, so it may be the transition… but still… it’s bad down here in Central IL
Yes, agreed. But you're more North to us. Peoria, Chicago, eh, you're all the same. You all think we're "downstate". lol
I have friends from Peoria though.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Insight was a joke
Comcast is going to spend a bundle to upgrade Insight’s network.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
Shades of 2005...Lee getting hits with nobody on base...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions
lol @ Shields and Ramirez fighting. I haven't seen that many missed punches since Lee vs Young
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Ramirez strikes out .... called. 91 mph fastball outside corner. TB 1 CHC 0 Bot 3
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Gameday shows it just about belt-high, for what that's worth.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
are you still talking about
the picture of LaRussa at the beginning of the thread?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Swing the bat Alice!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
That damn three outs per inning rule
is starting to get on my nerves. We should have more runs.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
Tim Beckham threw out the first pitch before today's game.
No word on whether Beckham threw a bender.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I feel so much better
when Gallagher gets the first guy out.
The last inning was a perfect example of how the first batter walk KILLS him.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
lol @ how Otto is pronouncing Longoria's first name. It's Evan, not "Ivan" (eh-VON)
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
2B Iwamura strikes out. Up and in on the hands (nod to dragons). 2 out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
As I said
He cannot hit up and in…
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 19, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Crawford lunges and grounds out weakly to Lee. TB 1 CHC 0 Top 4
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I want to be....I'm going to Santa Barbara to call PxP this summer, assuming I can figure out a way to pay for it.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Maybe we should pass a hat here at BCB?
by crazymountain on Jun 19, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you can figure out a way to pay for it.
You’d be good.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 19, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And just to build on that, I've called Northwestern baseball for 4 years along with softball and football.
Div I football is FUN to do. NU was a very unique opportunity and despite my dislike for classes, I’m very thankful.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Boom goes the dyanmite!
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I was a news anchor instead of sports. A three minute sports block just isn't very appealing, it's very sound bite and highlight driven.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
"Reggie Miller with the 3"...
while they show the other team shooting the ball….lol..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Nice inning for Gally
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
Gally?
Judges?
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I just dont want to type the res tof his name
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Headed to Wisconsin for a golf weekend...signing off shortly
Hoping for a win tonight and a sweep this weekend and fun here for those here in the in-game threads!
I do IP tech support for Comcast
I hear a lot of people bash us but when they try the competition they come back. We still have to do a better job though if we’re going to make long term relationships
I'll save my gratitude for the sunshine band...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoffpauir fouls one right off Navarro's mask. Timeout for him to recover.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
ba bum, tssss
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Swing the bat Alice!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
These guys pitch well
But enough for excuses. Fukudome, Lee, Ramirez, Soto et al need to start hitting the friggin’ baseball!
damn
just for that i am going to flag your post lol
by LT on Jun 19, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
G'day all
When are the bats gonna wake up?
"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went
they are resting
we have an early day tomarow
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals swept
and so will the Cubs.
SHIT!
They have forgotten how to hit in three games.
DLEE has 7 errors. This was his total in ALL of ‘07.
BOTH errors in back-to-back games have led to runs that were the difference in the games.
While it ain’t over yet, with Mikey Fontenot, MAtt Murton, and DeRosa in a terrible slump, it does not look good! Fontenot is at the Mendoza line for the last month!
Dude. It's only the 4th Inning.
We haven’t dropped 3 in a row on the road all year. We’re only down one. Chill, and trust this team. They have a tendancy to pull it out, and they’ve battled back both of the last two games.
I agree...
and I’ve gotta run..so The E-Man will cover for me in my absence…take it away E-Man!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Its ok
They are STILL the best team in the NL – but, they’ve been smoked by better pitching, timely hitting, and better defense in three games. You don’t see this?
Right but its not the end of the world
Its not like our ace is…............ well nvm
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all
I think we will come back and win this one.
But let’s remember that Tampa Bay is a tough place to win. I believe they have swept the Yankess, Red Sox and Angels this year at home. And let’s not forget that the Red Birds were swept today by KC.
Go Cubs. Let’s get some runs!!!!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Upton grounds out to Theriot who beats him by a couple steps. 1 out in the 4th.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Guys what concerns me most about Z is this arthogram thing, But hopefully its just an extra precaution,
Also that would cost him a few days either way, If I remember correcly didn’t Prior have one and they said when he had it he can;’t move arm or something like that for 3 days>
Go Cubs
Lets not compare Z to Prior
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 19, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Its early but
It seems Sean never gets run support to me
"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went
It does seem that way.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
Gallagher
has settled down. Good job Sean, but take what you’ve done in the last 2 innings into the 5, 6, and 7th innings.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
Okay everybody....
Let’s leave this punch-less thread behind. JUMP!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Probably mentioned earlier
but Lou on the pregame said his “gut feeling was that Z would have a DL stint”. His gut, however, said nothing.
CORRECTION
the Gut told him a 50-50 chance! sorry…
What is the best way to enjoy the Crosstown Classic...
at home?
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
Arthrogram
This is where dye is injected into the shoulder joint, capsule, etc., to better visualize the tendons, ligaments, and other structures in the shoulder when the MRI is performed. I would guess a google search can probably tell you more info as well.
A charter flight from Tampa
to chicago is less than 2 hours…..the commercial flights we all take are more b/c of air trafic and what not…..
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