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He Did It Again! -- Cubs 4, White Sox 3

As Aramis Ramirez rounded third base to a scrum of his waiting happy teammates after hitting the walkoff home run that won today's thrilling come-from-behind 4-3 Cub win over the White Sox, I got to thinking, "There's another photo for the cover of next year's Wrigley Season Ticket!"

Just nine days short of one year since A-Ram's amazing walkoff that beat the Brewers 6-5, he did it again, hitting Scott Linebrink's second pitch into the left-field bleachers, and this was just about the time that a lot of us were getting a little worried about his power outage (only ten before today). But his second HR of the day -- just making it into the basket in center field -- gives me hope, at least, that A-Ram is beginning one of his patented mid-season hitting binges that could carry this team, and they need that.

They needed this win badly, too, after losing two tough ones and one that wasn't well-played in Tampa, and what better way to do it than defeating the crosstown White Sox, who are in a pennant race of their own.

Those of you who saw the game on television saw a game played in bright sunshine with a gentle breeze blowing out toward left-center field, a pretty Chicago summer afternoon on the longest day of the year (the summer solstice hits in a little over an hour from posting time here, 6:59 pm CDT). What you didn't see were two nasty little rainstorms that blew through between about 11:30 and 1:00, dampening the stands and the field; as soon as they ended, the sun came out and the ground crew put the field in shape quickly.

The Cubs struck first, scoring a run on a Derrek Lee double play ball after Kosuke Fukudome and Ryan Theriot singled. That was good, but it could have been better -- the Cubs seemed to be hitting John Danks pretty hard in the early innings, but he settled down and retired 11 in a row at one point, helped by two more double plays. Credit to all the Sox pitchers today -- the Cubs went walkless for only the fourth time this season.

Meanwhile, the White Sox were taking Ted Lilly to the air; in the first this resulted in outs, but by the second, home run balls flew out of the yard. Jermaine Dye -- who's one of the hottest hitters in the game today -- smacked one onto Waveland, which rolled down Kenmore Avenue and was (ballhawk, fill in the details if you will) grabbed by Mo, veteran ballhawk. Mo flung a ball back on the field, which appeared dingy and dirty, almost certainly a throwback ball. In the next inning, after a single by Orlando Cabrera, the guy Cub fans love to hate, A. J. Pierzynski, reached down to hit a ball near his ankles and took it out to center.

And that's where it stayed until the 7th. During that time a couple of female Sox fans wearing MINOSO 9 jerseys stood next to us; it turned out that one of them was Minnie's wife Sharon, a lovely woman who got a BCB card (Hey, Sharon, if you're reading this, HI!). In the 7th, Ozzie Guillen pulled Danks for a pinch-hitter and I made the requisite middle-of-the-7th visit to the men's room (explain this to me: guys waiting in line for the troughs at the entrance while, on the far wall, another line of troughs was totally empty), coming back just in time to see D-Lee's leadoff HR that made the score 3-2. We had just finished paying off HR Derby payments when Ramirez tied the game with a blast to left.

Kerry Wood, who hadn't thrown since Sunday, came in for the 9th after Bob Howry had done a pretty good job keeping the Sox at bay in the 8th (helped by a double play), and despite allowing a leadoff double to Brian Anderson, he got AJ to end the inning on an appealed call that AJ wasn't happy with at all (gee, what a surprise, right, AJ bitching?).

The byplay between Sox and Cubs fans was pretty low-key most of the day, though a few Sox fans got a bit rowdy toward the later innings and got escorted out. We heard the chants: "Steroids! Steroids!" while the Sox were in the field and at first I thought they were directed at Sox LF Carlos Quentin, but instead we discovered they were heckling a heavily-muscled guy in the bleachers with his shirt off. Everything was totally calm until after A-Ram's walkoff, when some idiots decided that was a good time to throw beer cups (some still full) onto the field -- decidedly uncool.

Apart from that -- nice day, nice win (giving the Cubs, for today at least, the all-time regular season lead in wins, 31-30), and I'd think a psychological advantage, having taken both of the Sox' good setup men, Linebrink and Octavio Dotel, deep today. Onward to tomorrow, and let's go Red Sox and Orioles tonight!

Finally, my thoughts on Carlos Zambrano's shoulder problem, which will have him missing one start (at least): it's irresponsible for anyone to say he's going on the DL, because no one with the Cubs has suggested that yet, and although there are rumors the Cubs could call up Sean Marshall to throw in Z's turn Tuesday, why not just use the off-day to push the rotation back a day? That way if Z happens to be OK and ready to throw during the White Sox series, there's no need for a DL move.

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I watched today's game at work...

My boss is a die-hard Sox fan, but he’s also my best friend of twenty years. I told him when they pinch hit for Danks that it was a mistake to take him out. I told him that D. Lee and Rami have hit Dotel hard over the years… Lo & behold, they go back to back. He hated it. Then when Rami came to the plate in the bottom of the ninth, I told him “Ramirez is going to hit a walk-off.” Then 2 seconds later. CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 20, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

While Lily doesn’t qualify as a good hitting pitcher, sometimes if your pitcher can hit it can give you a leg up in interleague play in an NL park.

Wasn’t there a game a few years ago 1-1 in the 7th where Baker left Wood (or maybe Zambrano) in in a close situation and he hit a sac fly but Ozzie (or maybe Manuel before him) had to remove his pitcher?

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

wanna go to the track with me tomorrow?

I'm a good speller, but my typing creates a SERIOUS vacuum. (especially while I'm at work sticking it to the man)

by cubfever7 on Jun 20, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you know...

what tomorrow’s lotto numbers are gonna be?

by deanosaur on Jun 21, 2008 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

1 dollar up with me and one of my best friends.

Great person otherwise but he’s a Sox fan.

The redeeming qualify is he’s also a diehard Bears fan.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Isn't it funny how we can get along just fine during football season

A friend of mine brought a sign to last year’s Cubs/Sox series – “At least we all hate the Packers” – it was pretty well recieved.

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on Jun 20, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

that sign is golden

and so true. lol

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let it come...inside half...BOOM

D Lee looked like himself today. Staying back, letting the ball come to him, and attacking the inside half of the ball. That bomb was huge for this game but bigger for the near future. He’s got to get himself right. If A-Ram and Lee get hot…look out!

by Hagen on Jun 20, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Lee taking the ball the other way for a HR.

He did this in spring training just before he broke out of a slump. I think this is a very good sign.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

IIRC, Lee starts his hot streaks by focusing (or so it seems) on hitting the ball to right field.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 20, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about the beer cups...

...I never understood why some people like to do that after a win. If it’s done in anger eg. after a bad call, I don’t condone, but I can understand. But why waste that beer when you could be using it to celebrate?

by 60613 on Jun 20, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Was it Cub fans or Sox fans throwing the trash?

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on Jun 20, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't watched the game yet...

...but I’ve seen this after many a Cub victory.

by 60613 on Jun 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

On TV I saw

beer being thrown all over trhe crowd at the end of the game. Didn’t see if it was Cub fand or Sux fans.

by sue369 on Jun 20, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasting beer during a celebration

is the ultimate party foul.

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Win

It’s nice to break that 3-game losing streak. The news on Big Z is relatively good. The Cubs are going to survive Zambrano missing a start or two just fine.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jun 20, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Does anyone know what Steve Stone said during the Sox telecast when his old friend Kerry was pitching?

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably something disparaging...

Stone’s got an obvious ax to grind now, in fact he has been a sour puss since Harry died.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 20, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard somewhere Ed Farmer actually said he was rooting for Kerry to do well except when he pitches against the Sox.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's also the same guy that said

Kerry would never pitch again, and would be selling used cars by now…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 20, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stone said that not Farmer.

Sometimes when he’s not being a goof, I find some of the things Farmer says during the Cubs/Sox telecast interesting.

Ed is a good guy. I used to call in the old Sports Huddle show back in the mid to late 90s on what was WMAQ and I’ve talked to him on other radio broadcasts.

I sent him an email in 05 saying while I’m a Cubs fan I was happy for HIM the Sox won the world series and got a very nice reply.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you were talking about Stone.

My bad. You’re right Farmio is a good egg.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 20, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should also say I know a lot of Sox fans rooting for Kerry because he always seemed like a guy you want to root for. Obviously not during the crosstown series.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly AL I think the Cubs should have Z miss 2 starts and might even if it’s not 100 percent necessary.

But they can go to Saturday without him just skipping Monday.

If the Cubs err here though I’d rather see them err on the side of caution.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...

I’d love to have him out ASAP, but i don’t think it hurts to have him miss a few starts. If they are thinking its going to be 2 or 3 starts then why not DL him and call up someone.

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 20, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understood,

But I don’t really think the Cubs would take any chances with their ace if they thought he was not ready. The management would be hounded unmercifully – rightly so – for years if they brought the Z in too soon and he hurt his arm and had to be out for the season.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jun 20, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bragging rights to all of us, make sure to remind your Sox fan friends about this game tonight and tomorrow!!

"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 20, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

If they decide to DL Z maybe it’s best to keep Marshall in Iowa and bring up a reliever and put Lieber in the rotation. They can wait til next Saturday for a starter. Then the next Thursday it would be 15 days.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 20, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

well

it’s also a chance to see if Marshal can start well for us. Because if he finds that proverbial lightning in a bottle, maybe we won’t need to trade for a SP at the deadline.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 21, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great game....

....Lilly held tough, Howry did his job, Kerry shut the door. Nice to see some blasts from the guys we need it from. Overall, a relief to get this win.

One thing, Al. Rami’s blast looked like it cleared the basket and hit that greenery in centerfield. At least from the replays.

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 20, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

You may be right.

From our vantage point it looked like it hit the basket. May have done that and then bounced into the shrubbery. Will look at replays later.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

All that matters...

...is it went out. :)

Whoever said you couldn't mix business and pleasure never owned a putt putt course. --Andy Bernard

by carmen_fanzone on Jun 20, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've watched it a few times now

(okay, more than a few, that shot rocked. I thought it hit the green too. Either way, the result is the same: CUBS WIN! :D

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Landed in the shrubs

then bounced down into the centerfield basket.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jun 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did watch the replays.

You guys are right on. Hit the bushes first, then bounced down.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Standing Room Tickets

Anyone know anything about the standing room tickets for tomorrow? I read in the Red Eye that a few hundred go on sale at 8 AM tomorrow, any idea when people will start lining up or any tips?

by TheNotoriousJJ on Jun 20, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

My guess is...

... some will stay overnight if Cubs security will let them. Often they won’t. But yes, they will open at 8 am tomorrow with SRO tix (IIRC, they sell up to 1200 of them) and whatever seats are returned by players/employees.

Good luck!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

To Al and all who worry about D Lee

I am not worried about D Lee, he is a proven professional hitter who has had slumps before. He’s already starting to come around. Hitting, and to some degree pitching, is not my worry with this team. My worry, or perhaps it’s more a concern, is the defense. Aramis and Theriot are piling up the errors. And if there has been one thing that the Cubs have been known for it’s errors at crucial periods of a game – especially in the postseason.

The rest is coming along great, we just need to shore up our defense.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jun 20, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Had to follow the game

on the computer, MLB gameday, called home when Ramy was up, my daughter tells me CUBS WIN on the walkoff, of course the computer is about 10 seconds behind, so I got the walk off from my daughter.
Agree, this was a huge win, Cubs needed it badly. Seeing all of the double play balls I was getting frustrated. Glad they pulled Danks.
I thought also on the replay that Ramy shot made it beyond the basket, he knew it was gone as soon as it hit the bat, great shot.
Looking at the replay also AJ swung on the pitch from Woody. I give AJ credit however, he seems to hit the Cubs well and he is having a good year, even though he can be a jerk.
I would sit Z for two starts, he is the Cubs horse, most important starter we have, make sure his shoulder is right. Don’t rush him back, no need at all.
Great win, lets get game two tomorrow.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 20, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

The pitch

should have been a called strike anyway. AJ had nothing to complain about.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jun 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thought exactly at the time

I was waiting for the Home plate ump to ring him up and went nuts when he didn’t. Glad the ump at 3rd bailed him out. LOL

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 20, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

dvr is a beautiful thing....

just watched ARAM win the game….. how awesome!! was on the golf course but wanted to catch the game on tv and was rewarded…. BIG WIN!!

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 20, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

*



Great win today and go Cubs!..

"Look,." --- Lou Pinella-

by blueivy on Jun 20, 2008 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm eating crow

I had to step out during the game and didn’t see the inning. I bashed Ramirez for him not hitting as of late. Looks like the jokes on me!

Looks like it was a great win today, I wish I could have watched it. Man I wanted to see what Hawk’s reaction was!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Need ketchup with

that crow? lol

If you get CSN they are replaying it right now.

by sue369 on Jun 20, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I'm out of Chicago area

but I am going to watch it online!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in LA,

what do I need to do to access CSN?

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jun 20, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

just go to the mlb scoreboard and the cubs scoreboard should have the numbers in blue

you can watch any inning online

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got it,

thank you!

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jun 20, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

reminds me a TON of that Milwaukee game last year

when Ramirez jacked one in the bottom of the ninth when we were down a run.

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep it does.

Hope we can take these next two this weekend.

by sue369 on Jun 20, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought ARams walk off

in the Milwaukee game last year was the most exciting homerun I have seen in my 30 years on earth, but the one he hit yesterday was even sweeter! What a stud!

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 21, 2008 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Today was fantastic.

Aramis and Derrek came through big time. Ted did what he needed to do. Hope they can do this two more times this weekend.

In his post game interview Aramis said he and D-Lee said they had to step up with Soriano out and was happy it worked out that way today. Me too.

by sue369 on Jun 20, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly,

this team will not quit, and they will step up when one of the guys is out. If not for Carlos not having his stuff yesterday, which happens, we would be on a 2 game win streak. Today’s win was just another example of how this Cubs team many just be making history in October.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jun 20, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the part of his interview I loved the best

Where he said “This team goes out and we think we have a chance every inning, whether it’s the beginning or the end.” Yep. It shows too.

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that Aramis was the hero

AND got an interview. I can’t believe how quiet he is.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had a great quote in an ESPN interview

(I know, ESPN, but still—they had this whole Cubs thing up today and I had to read it)

Anyway, here’s the quote:

“That’s my job. I’m a clean-up hitter, an RBI man,” Ramirez said. “People expect me to do that.”

I LOVE THAT ATTITUDE! It’s the same reason I always loved Sandberg and Grace and a whole slew of other awesome, hard working, amazing Cubs players.

Rami Rocks.

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of enjoyed all the weird ESPN Cub coverage

I love Rami.

Hell, I love this team. They all just seem so dang likable and reek of “good guy”. Even when we’re losing, they’re still likable and fun. :-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

I was scanning the Sox blog today, and at one point one of them was like “you know, it’s hard not to like Fukudome” or something. SO TRUE! These cubs just rock in so many ways, and are likeable to boot. :)

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 21, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huge Win...but somewhat aggravated

By the Cubs players and organization’s response to comments made by Danks, GM Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen. When Cub players are asked about this series the common response it’s just another series and we come out to win everday. I understand the mindset but I think it is unaccaptable for us too take these bitch slaps and not respond. I know we are a classy organization and fan base but these weak insults need to be addressed. It’s frustrating but I know the only thing we need to do is prove it on the field and not through the media.

"Commit to the Indian!"

by Bpatterson83 on Jun 20, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know if

you are in the Chicago area or not but on Chicago Tribune Live tonight the guests they had on (some are Tribune writers) thought Kenny’s remarks were right on. They saw nothing wrong with what he said. I couldn’t believe it.

by sue369 on Jun 20, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw that stuff on

Chicago Tribune Live too, but I think they were not “approving” of Williams’ comments. They were just happy that Williams said what he thinks because it gives them something to talk about. They are tired of Chicago sports personalities who are so politically correct that it gives these sports writers nothing to write about. So, Williams’ mouthing off was a good thing They liked it for selfish reasons, not for the content itself.

At least that is how I heard it. But I agree with everyone else that everything about the White Sux is low and no class. Why should the Cubs drop to that level? Just win!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 20, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

No they do not need to be addressed

The comments lack class and speak for themselves. The Cubs can reply by putting up a bunch of W’s this weekend and next.

by wnielsen on Jun 20, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Winning - especially the way they won today - is the best response.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word!!

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was, and still am, at work...

...and didn’t see anything in the Trib wrapup about comments from those two.

by cwyers on Jun 20, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I missed it too.

Link, anyone?

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Mariotti mentioned it in his column today.

Al posted the link in the original game thread. In addition, I heard on the radio that John Danks mentioned something about the ballpark smelling like urine. Lots of class huh?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude.

Seriously?!

Also to the comments below.

Huff Wrigley is a national treasure, this year’s team rocks, and that type of talk is class-less. :(

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 21, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously..

But I don’t blame Danks too much because he’s really just following the lead of Ozzie and Kenny.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 21, 2008 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Ozzie say something about

rats lifting weights under the bleachers during a pregame interview?

by JFCubFan on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that too...

what a tool.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again...

... the best response is silence. They’re trying to get under the skin of the Cubs and Cubs fans. If you ignore it, it drives them crazy.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Murton too seems like he can still play in the bigs

He had a good game going 2 for 3

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Need some extra base hits from the Red Head.

ALso Cedeno is not hitting a lick at this point, seems he is over anxious or just pressing to much.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 20, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

8-0

now after that walkoff.

Going to Sunday’s game also, and I hope to make it a nice 9-0.

My 08 Cubs record 7-0
Updated June 01

by Rudey on Jun 20, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Incidentally...

... forgot to mention my son Mark was at the game today. He’s also 8-0.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could you get him a season ticket???

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 20, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

He DOES have to go to school, and has other activities.

But he’ll be there as often as possible this summer. (Last year he went to 22 games, this year should be similar.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woot!

I’m only 2-0 lifetime (cut me some slack, I live really far away) but hope to make it at least 3-0 later this season. :)

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baltimore has scored two in the top of the first to lead the Brewers 2-0

we need them to lose, cause they are on a tear right now

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Great game!

I was at the game today with a Sox fan. It wasn’t a lot of fun until the HRs. Boy, that shut him up quickly. We just can’t get too far a head of ourselves. There are still 2 games to play.

Go Cubs.

by goddess on Jun 20, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Mark DeRosa on today's game

http://markderosa.mlblogs.com/

That was a fast update, pretty cool stuff – check it out!

by lswaidz on Jun 20, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I sure hope that DeRo puts something in his blog about Ozzie.

Remember that they were teammates in Atlanta. I wonder if DeRo envisioned Ozzie as a future manager?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 20, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Report from Waveland Ave - missed it by that much!

( “that much” being about a foot or two…)

That home run was an absolute rocket! The ball was out of the park before many of the fans in the bleachers even looked up. Very little warning. You would have had to be within 5 feet or so of the landing zone in order to catch it on the fly. I happened to be about 7 feet away. I ran over as soon as I could but just couldn’t get there in time. Ball bounced on sidewalk, pretty close to the Waveland/Kenmore street sign and took a big bounce. Ended up landing in the second yard down Kenmore.

It was Dave, not Mo, that actually got the ball. Mo got a new job recently so it’s tougher for him to make the weekday games. Dave was in right place at right time, standing back by the tree, so he had a head start on everyone running towards the yard. First one through the gate and after a few frantic seconds of searching for the ball in the tall grass, came up with it.

And yes, a ball came flying back into the field, but it was A ball – not THE ball.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 20, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the correction.

We were a little too far away to see if it was Mo or Dave—I knew it wasn’t you, though, and yes, I knew it wasn’t “THE” ball.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry - wasn't impugning your eyesight or 'street' knowledge...

just added the emphasis to make it clearer to others who aren’t as well-versed on what goes on outside during the game.

Speaking of which, although there were many verbal fisticuffs throughout the day, I saw only one physical altercation. Actually, I only saw the aftermath when 10-12 of Chicago’s finest gently and politely escorted a young man from the bleacher entrance into a waiting vehicle.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice PBP ballhawk.

Makes me feel like I was actually there.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, ballhawk...

...were you the guy in the red shirt who was visible on the Comcast telecast? Or was that Dave? Thanks, too, for the PBP. It’s really cool to get your on-the-scene reporting when these things happen.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 20, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep - that was me

I recorded the WGN feed and as they were breaking for commercial after the top half of the 2nd, they showed the Dye homer replay from the camera on top of the scoreboard. I come into view near the end, running towards left-center, glove outstretched as ball goes shooting by.

Was that what you saw on Comcast? Or was there a sighting during another part of the game?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw you on Baseball Tonight too...

You’re nationwide man!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 21, 2008 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

cubs

seems like forever since we got a win.a long 3 days here in tampa.already being taunted by rays fans wherever i go.i,ll say this. cubs 1st place. rays 2nd.the astros are beating them as i type.we should have won a couple but oh well let,s move on.might not hurt to let big z sit a couple of weeks.kudos to geo for spotting a problem. z still did,nt want to come out when lou came to get him.the reds might be looking to move some pitching,maybe not to us though.cant afford to lose z.we dont want to repeat the wood/prior horror show again.

by NOMAR on Jun 20, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Obsessive nerdfan redeemed

It’s a travel day for me and I was following the first inning or two on my phone, checking the play by play in the gate lounge and on the plane, before they told us to switch everything off. When the plane I landed, it was the 7th inning and I got to “see” the back to back jacks refreshing the Yahoo boxscore obsessively while taxi-ing to the gate. It took quite awhile to get off the plane and into baggage reclaim, and there was a mighty delay waiting for the bags. Frustrated waiting for my bag and dying to see or hear some of this game, I pulled my laptop out and sat on the edge of the baggage carousel, and fired up MLB.com. Denied! Something wrong with my audio – I get the stream but can’t hear it! So I switch to the video feed, and there is Aramis in the 9th, reaching down and yanking that ball up into the junipers – Cubs win!!! – no audio, but I watch that dogpile at home plate and Aramis run into the dugout, and then my bag shows up on hte belt and I can relax and continue on in my journey…...

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

cubs

the rays announcer commented how sox fans are saying this.the only reason the cubs are in 1st is because they,re beating up on lousy teams.they,re in 1st place and they,re still jealous. pathetic

by NOMAR on Jun 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Given today's win

Wouldn’t that make the Sox a lousy team? :P

I

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 20, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

considering the Sox also

padded their lead by whipping on the Pirates that line of thinking has very little merit to me. :-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funniest sight today out on Waveland...

about the 3rd inning or so, there was a young man stumbling around, shirtless, with a big “E” painted on his chest. Apparently he had been kicked out of the bleachers, and judging by his gait, justifiably so.

The funny part though was for the rest of the game, somewhere in the bleachers, there were seven other shirtless wonders (F-U-K-U-D-O-M), probably catching all kinds of sh*t from other fans for their perceived lack of spelling skills…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

PWND!!!

(My ‘E’ got kicked out, too.)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

hee hee hee.

+1

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 21, 2008 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

great story

I’m still giggling. By the way, are there any female ballhawks? Just curious.

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 21, 2008 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't see this on TV, but...

a friend of mine on a rooftop said that some fan climbed into the shrubbery to get Aramis’ walk-off HR ball. I’m sure doing that will get you an automatic ejection, if not more… but since the game was over, I guess it wouldn’t matter if he was kicked out…. We disagreed if he’d be allowed to keep the ball, if he was able to get to it…. I said yes, he said no.

by MillsChC on Jun 20, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know about Wrigley...

but almost everywhere else they take the ball away from any fan that’s ejected for interference. Now, in this case the game was over, so who knows what happened then.

by Fraggin Judge on Jun 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad it didn't matter, but

DeRo’s bat looked really slow today - he missed some very hittable fastballs. Hopefully, Edmonds will be able to go tomorrow (or will be DLed and Pie called up) so that DeRo can get a day off. He’s the only player who played every inning in the field during the Turf Trip - at 4 positions, no less—and it’s starting to show. He’s running on fumes.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 20, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

just got home anderson just got a 2 bagger

hope we get out of this and Aram can put it away in the 9th

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on Jun 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

haha..

keep the faith and you’ll be rewarded..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

really wish...

the cardinals would stop winning when the cubs win.. what’s the deal.. they can’t beat the KC Royals, but they can lay it on the red sox… STOP IT! geez.

by ThisIsResolute on Jun 20, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

i know

but at least we’re in first. could be way worse. :-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll deal

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jun 20, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blasting AJ

That’s me (the big guy with the camera) giving it to AJ after he complained about the strike out. These were by far the best seats I ever had. Schmoozed with Ozzie the whole game. He’s a hoot.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2597007904_2492ec026e_m.jpg

by Chodes on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Incidentally, Chodes...

... you made the front page of the Sun-Times today.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, ballhawk on Baseball Tonight...

...and chodes on the cover of the Sun-Times. All in all, a pretty good game, I’d say.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 21, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice one!

Yeah, I chuckled when I saw the big guy with the camera (you) telling AJ to sit his a** down. I wish I was there so I can give hell to that idiot Ozzie.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 20, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJ

Had a point, I thnk the Cubs got the call.. Although damn you McClellan that pitch there for a called strike

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 21, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

My thought exactly!

I didn’t understand why it made a damn bit of difference whether A.J. “went” or not. That ball was over the plate and sailed right up through the strike zone. (Watch the replay here.) Maybe the third base umpire thought the same thing and wasn’t calling A.J. out for swinging but rather for looking at strike three.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 21, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said

IMO, the ump at third really REALLY got caught up in the moment. It was close but AJ should have got that.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 21, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting news fellow Cubs fans

One of the bidders is a group called Sport Properties. Weird, but get this, there is no one operating this group, but apparently if they do win the bid, Cubs fans, group of buyers, small companies etc. can buy shares and own part of the Cubs! Kind of weird, but it would be interesting if they buy the Cubs.

Here’s the link. It lists ALL the current bidders for the Cubs and I’m keeping my fingers crossed Cuban win this one!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sat-chicago-cubsjun21,0,7696697.story

by Geo4MVP on Jun 20, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

But the thing about Sport properties

They are a public type ownership and even though it would be interesting, I want a proven private owner like Cuban or Colangelo to win it.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

i’ll take 50 shares of Cub stock!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would too.

But without a proven manager, what good would it do? Look at some of the arguments we have here? I’d hate to see that running our Cubs. :(

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 21, 2008 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone have a pic of the home plate celebration after A-Ram's walkoff?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

The jealousy knows no words.

How you managed to take a picture instead of jump up and down like a fiend is beyond me.

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 21, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

great pics

I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.

by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 20, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

To Chodes...

... all of your pics are outstanding!

I bet you’re real glad you got those seats for yesterday’s game.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet..

Thanks!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 20, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Bad, bad news down in AAA.

Something is terribly wrong with Rich Hill.

His line: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 4 BB, 1 K

His ERA 5.88

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jun 20, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

His confidence is messed up

Those BB are telling the story. Oh well, lets hope Marshall can hold the fort till Big Z returns.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that's tragic. Just tragic.

It’s like he’s slowly disappearing from view with each start, becoming harder and harder to see. I feel bad for him.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 20, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although

Sean Gallagher has made us forget Rich somewhat.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he definitely has.

And I think we’re very fortunate to have him on the team.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 20, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gallagher

Whoever called off the Brian Roberts trade needs to get a big high five if it’s true it included this kid.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 21, 2008 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

We were discussing this yesterday.

Hill may have “Steve Blass Disease”. For those of you unfamiliar with Blass, he was a 19-game winner for the 1971 Pirates WS winners—by two years later he couldn’t throw a strike. It was all psychological. The last game he ever pitched was in Wrigley Field on April 17, 1974. Check out his pitching line that day. I was there and watched that. Sad, really.

I’m afraid Rich Hill is headed down that road.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be too bad. Or he’s hurt and they haven’t found anything yet.

This is going to sound awful but I almost hope they find something wrong with him physically. Something that can be fixed and have him come back from.

That seems easier to repair than a mental issue.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 21, 2008 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there anywhere to find the pat and ron walkoff call from today?

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That's a GREAT shot!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 21, 2008 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I only wish I could see it!

All I see is the dreaded red X.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 4:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see it now.

Yeah, that’d make a great cover.

But we have more than half a season’s worth of thrills to come. Perhaps there will be something even better.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 21, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wonderful!

Were you on the field? Stands? Did you have a telephoto for this? Theriot and Soto’s expressions are wonderful!

by The E-Man on Jun 21, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Picture and Ramirez

Ramirez is the personified saying of “Speak softly and carry a big stick”

He must be one of the quietest superstars in pro sports. Just grabs his bat and hits. Just grabs his gloves and fields.

And Al while that is a great picture I think a picture of a team holding up a certain trophy in October would be a nicer cover shot!

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 21, 2008 6:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Not sure where this belongs

Its not fanpost worthy but worth a mention.

Osco is selling a really cool CD of Cubs songs. It’s 19.99. Not worth a special trip obviously but if you’re going to Jewel/Osco anyway you might want to look atit.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 21, 2008 7:02 AM CDT reply actions  

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