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minutes from the Jim Edmonds Fan Club meeting, part deux

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Thank you for coming today. We first want to thank Ozzie Guillen for his timely coaching in the fourth inning of today's game against the White Shlox for not lifting his pitcher Mr. Contreras when he should have.  We appreciate his signal contribution to the Chicago Cubs by providing them a live fire exercise in batting pratice and trust that this will not require him to engage in further therapeutic application of sensitivity psychoanalysis.  The Jim Edmonds Fan Club recognizes that his blaming of alleged sightings of rats in the batting practice cages could be a manifestation of further mental aberrences, however, and wishes to encourage Mr. Guillen to continue to take his Prozac, avoid conflict, and cut all the four corners off his Pop Tarts in the morning.

Main item of business: We have continued to have significant input from fans about the arrival of Chicago Cub status to Jim Edmonds. At our last meeting, the vote was unanimous that Jim would be granted full recognition as a bona fide roster player for the Chicago National League team with all the rights and privileges thereof. We understand that a significant mass of Cub fans are moving Jim Edmonds Cub jerseys through UPS terminals, that he may have been spotted buying drinks all around at Murphys after one game, and that a grass roots campaign is moving to have a "Jim Edmonds Bobblehead Night" during the last Cubs home stand in September for the first 15,000 Trixies who show up wearing their sorority pins.

Either way, the Edmonds rollercoaster is showing no sign of slowing down. His heroic efforts to reduce the White Shlox into rotting hamburger today will surely be remembered in the ages. Generations to come will remember where they were during the fourth inning of the second game of the Red Line Rivalry, 2008.

A motion was made by Joe Shlabotnik of Berwyn, Illinois to open membership to the Jim Edmonds Fan Club once again to all members of the Cubs Nation who didn't get onboard last time.

We'd like to note that one Al Yellon has volunteered to be the master of arms for the new organization and that he hopes his contributions to the club will result in positive efforts in Wrigleyville, world peace and perhaps a Edmonds Tongue mask giveaway for kids this coming Halloween.

For further review of the record, here's the minutes for the Formational meeting of this charitable organization:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/6/1/543742/minutes-from-the-jim-edmon

I am just the parliamentarian, I just move things along here and take no formal positions. Is there a second?

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I've been very happy to see Jim turn his season around while in a Cubs uniform.

I was a skeptic at the start. It’s not that I hated him for being a Cardinal, because I didn’t, not at all. It just really didn’t look like the guy had much left. He was late on sub-90 fastballs….yeeeouch. But now that he’s starting to hit like the Jim Edmonds of old, it’s great to see. As soon as he put the uniform on for the first time, to me, he was a Cub. He’s definitely providing a lift lately…

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 22, 2008 1:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Seconded

And as strange as he looks in blue (between the angels and the cards he’s always been in red) he is indeed a full-fledged Cub and deserves the privileges of such a status.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 1:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I liked his comments

about the attitude of the team, and how it reminds him of the “expectation of winning” that the ‘06 World Series winners had in the clubhouse, too.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 22, 2008 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, he's turning out to be a much better

‘team’ guy than I’d expected… not that I thought he was going to be a hack or anything; but when the chemistry is as good as ours bringing in someone who’s flashy felt risky.

But again, happy to be proved wrong. :-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, I agree.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was one who thought the experiment was almost over the day from as many runs as they did

I also believed when I read that in the clubhouse he caused probs. If he did in other clubhouses it doesnt matter since he obviously doesnt in the Cub one.

I was wrong. I am happy to be a member of this fan club!!

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also I would happy to start one for Soto :)

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Master of arms"?

I’m flattered. I think.

But I second the comments above about Edmonds’ remarks about the team attitude. Clearly, he’s been accepted in the clubhouse and he’s producing. What’s not to like?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Should we be surprised?

Edmonds has always been a gamer. Some may have the opinion that he purposely makes things appear harder than they have to. That may be true, I don’t know for sure. The bottom line is, no matter where he has played, he has always played hard. Now he’s doing it for our team. That and the fact that he CHOSE to accept Hendry’s offer and become a Cub. He didn’t have to. He could have called it a career and spent the rest of his days in sunny California. Who cares where he played before?

"I'm not giving him a high-five ever again." - Sammy Sosa, joking about Moises Alou's personal habits

by MorePiePlease on Jun 22, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Edmonds has...

acceped his role on the Cubs with no complaints or disruptions. He’s having fun again. Fun means maybe hitting a couple of jacks in the same inning.

Felix who?

by montecarlo on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 AM CDT reply actions  

This Felix - was last seen trudging to the Iowa clubhouse

Seriously though, Edmonds’ presence could be a win win all the way around. I don’t know how long the lightning in the bottle will retain its potency, but clearly Jim’s acquisition was another awesome move by Hendry & Co when Felix’s troubles began. But even Edmonds is not going to shine forever. A CF will still ultimately be needed. However, if ain’t broke for now, I’m not suggesting anyone fix it.

I still think Felix is capable of playing up to his potential (speed with a good bat and great defensive range) .. but for some reason, he’s not got it all synched yet. Edmonds and Johnson wouldn’t be displaying what they’ve been showing us if he hadn’t misfired from day 1 of the season .. and they may be buying time, ultimately, for Felix to finally get his act together. With trade deadlines coming up fast, the Cubs are plainly shopping and I hope Felix is considered too good a prospect to let go .. yet.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 22, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Call

I think he realizes he’s in the twilight of his career and winning a WS with the Cubs is truly unique, probably the same reason Lous here too, so Jimbo probably has a great perspective on his career and place on this team at this point and what winning here would mean.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 22, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh crap

I am in. That is if the club will accept me. I know I have been harsh in my judging of ExCard, I mean, Edmonds, but alas I cannot resist anymore. Thank for your consideration.

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 22, 2008 5:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Still "NO"

Still no on Jim! He is’nt and NEVER will be a Cub. I’ll take the home runs, just like I take the touchdowns from T.O., but he aint gett’en in!

Grant Earnhart

by ernie87 on Jun 22, 2008 5:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Sorry, can't agree.

Anyone who helps us win a World Series is OK with me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sir. You have your orders

I don’t make the laws. I just enforce them. Thank you Mr. Roberts.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 22, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are in denial.

"I'm not giving him a high-five ever again." - Sammy Sosa, joking about Moises Alou's personal habits

by MorePiePlease on Jun 22, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

At best I’m uninterested when he comes to the plate and prefer not to see him at all.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jun 22, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry but that makes no sense to me

He’s playing well. The Cubs are winning. Who cares if he was a Cardinal?

I didn’t hate him when he was a Cardinal. He was the opposition so I wanted to see him lose but that was it.

by rlpete on Jun 22, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

why?

because he used to be a cardinal? silly

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 24-12 (.666)
Edmonds with Cubs: .311 / .358 / .581

by joeschmitt on Jun 23, 2008 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, because.............

...............he was a Cardinal.

Yes, because he’s always been a showboating hotdog.

And yes, because by many accounts, he’s an asshole.

I don’t like the guy and never will. That doesn’t mean he can’t contribute to Cubs victories.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jun 23, 2008 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
He is’nt and NEVER will be a Cub.

what? uhhhh, news flash, he is currently a Cub.

what other players are banned from ever being a Cub? or is it entire teams of players? anyone who has ever played for the cardinals, white sux or brewers? seems like that would be a significant disadvantage against all other teams picking players from all teams instead of only 90% of them. but wouldn’t want winning to be the goal of the game or anything when we can place silly grudges above it

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 24-12 (.666)
Edmonds with Cubs: .311 / .358 / .581

by joeschmitt on Jun 23, 2008 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

he

still sucks, but maybe a little lesssssss. :)

by johnnywishbone on Jun 22, 2008 7:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm on the fence until I see how he performs against the Cardinals.

For all we know Jim might be a A Wolf in Sheep’s clothing. Now if he bashes the Cards the same way that he is bashing Ozzie’s kids I say that I have little choice but to accept him as a Chicago Cub.

A good day for me is a cubs win and a sox loss.

by diehardmark on Jun 22, 2008 7:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Funny you should bring this up

I read this on VEB a while back. Perhaps it IS a conspiracy….
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/5/15/510218/the-truth-behind-the-jim-e

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 22, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt it.

If he did that, he’d be just about the most unprofessional player ever. I can’t see it happening.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah,

sarcasm my dear Al. It is my friend!

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 22, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

So true.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice catch

However I must ask what were you doing on a Cardinal’s blog?

There are spy’s everywhere!!!

A good day for me is a cubs win and a sox loss.

by diehardmark on Jun 22, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really dislike the Cards

and I wanted to see how they were dealing with Jedmon doing well for us. I couldn’t help myself. You know they say to keep your enemies closer…..

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 22, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm In....

.... the guy’s got me convinced. Give him credit, he’s subjugated whatever dickiness was left in his personality and has fit in perfectly so far. Apparently, he’s smart enough at this stage of his career to realize his limitations and not complain about a platoon. He probably won’t be around next year, but let’s enjoy whatever we get out of him while we can. He’s certainly saved a few games already that might not have otherwise been won.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 22, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh...nice Joe Shlabotnik reference too

Mad Magazine, required reading in the 60’s and 70’s

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 22, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Shlabotnik...

... isn’t a Mad magazine reference, it’s from Charlie Brown. Shlabotnik was supposedly a major leaguer, the one that Charlie Brown could never get a card of.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow....

....you’re right. My huge mistake. Now I’ll be going crazy trying to figure out what Mad name I was thinking about.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 22, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's Roger Kaputnik

There. I feel better. Sort of.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 22, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Thanks for clearing that up. I couldn’t imagine what Mad name you were thinking of either!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

as opposed to

Joe Garagiola, whose card he did have, but could never get a signature…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

outstanding

Al Yellon – ever the master of minutiae … i was wondering if anyone would catch that ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me

...of the Gary Gaetti signing. That too, waqs a lightning in a bottle deal which worked out for us for a season. If Edmonds can just be 80% of the Edmonds in his prime, I will be happy enough.

"I lof to hit de home ron!"

by Tekboy on Jun 22, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I have been...

on the Jim Edmonds bandwagon since he came to the Cubs. To me, its one whale of a deal. If the Cubs can obtain a player who is defensively sound and can hit decent for nothing on waivers and pay him what little they are its a win. But, to have him hit like he has the past several weeks is a great deal. I love it when old ballplayers who are supposedly washed up come back for one more go round proving everyone wrong. and helpiong a team to win in the process.

When I heard Jimmy was coming my first thoughts were: “wonder if he can hit for us anything like he did for the dirty-birds?” He has and I think it would be a wonderful piece of baseball lore that the Cubs were helped to win the big one by a ex dirty-bird! What perfect revenge upon the dirty-birds and their fans. I also think its great he is now in the Cubs record books with his two home run inning. :) I like Jimmy Edmonds despite how much of a one man wrecking crew he was to the Cubs for years. He’s our one man wrecking crew now and if he wrecks the dirty-birds, wrecks the White Sux, wrecks the Brewers and helps us to win the big one he will always be Jimmy Baseball of the Chicago Cubs to me. :) Go Jimmy and Go Cubs Go!

"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers

by MiCubsFan on Jun 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

With the personality problem or supposed one maybe what happened to him in the last year was a swift kick in the pants. Maybe it changed him.

He could do anything short of illegal and he’s a Cub and I’ll root for him, Yes I was someone who didn’t want him (even calling him Satan in jest) but now he’s wearing Cubs blue and contributing to the team, It’s not like we’re talking about someone who did drugs, or beat on his wife or something horrible he just is an ex-Cardinal.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 22, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

he's made me a believer.

I still want Felix Pie back, but Edmonds has performed well. I never cared that he was an ex-Cardinal.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel the same.

I just didn’t want him taking Pie’s place but I am glad that Edmonds is helping this team win.

by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Mr Yellon own a Browning?

If not, and I think not, then I fail to see how he can be “Master at Arms” due to his failure to own arms. Now I do know of one Cub fan who is the possessor of said arms but I fear he is ill and much missed. One can only hope that with Sids help he will recover and rejoin the Cub throng, hopefully not wearing a thong.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 22, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO

But you are correct. I do not own a gun.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither do I ... and the world is a safer place b/c of this

Btw I love his quote that Al added. :)

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The more important question is

does he own a thong?

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thong? Vas ist dis THONG you speakest of?

Und ze gun? Vas ist die “Gun” ..

You don’t need a GUN ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope not on board

As I have mentioned in previous posts my dislike of Edmonds has NOTHING to do with
his having been a Cardinal or allegedly having a selfish personality, I just don’t like him
because I watched him suck for a month and half with the Padres. This may not be fair
but it is how I feel. The man cost Greg Maddux a game or two so is staying on my bad side
till A. gets a walk off hit preferably against the Cardinals. B stops playing shallow to make
catches look harder than they are. He does that and maybe I let him off my shit list.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 22, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

omg
stops playing shallow to make
catches look harder than they are.

hilarious. where did you get that idea? also totally irrelevant. playing shallow helps the team so i dont care why he does it.

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 24-12 (.666)
Edmonds with Cubs: .311 / .358 / .581

by joeschmitt on Jun 23, 2008 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we helps us win a W.S. then ...

And only then, will he be considered for membership. He is not what I tell my kids what The Cubs stand for, or are. He is spoiled and sellfish. I have heard him talk trash to the bleacher bums first hand!

Grant Earnhart

by ernie87 on Jun 22, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

argh
I have heard him talk trash to the bleacher bums first hand!

how does that make you dislike him? that makes me like him more

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 24-12 (.666)
Edmonds with Cubs: .311 / .358 / .581

by joeschmitt on Jun 23, 2008 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

jimmy

i too could,nt warm upto edmonds at first.give a 100%,get the job done,and cub fans will get behind anybody.let,s hope jimmy keeps it up

by NOMAR on Jun 22, 2008 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Tell you what...

...I’ll take home the application, fill it out and sleep on it. (No, not literally – well, OK, maybe.) What I’m sayin’ is: I’m almost there. Edmonds coming to the Cubs has been a process for me not unlike the five stages of grief. And I’m almost there—I’m just about at acceptance.

Jimbo still creeps me out a little bit, but I will confess that I like seeing him come to the plate for the Chicago Cubs. When he hits the ball, he hits it very hard. And, yeah, he’s left-handed, and Lou’s right: The team needed a bat like his in the lineup. Jedmonds is also still a solid defender. Can he get to all the balls that Felix can/could? No, he can’t. But his experience speaks for itself and will do just fine for the time being.

By the way, nice place you’ve got here, Jim Edmonds Fan Club. My compliments to whoever baked these blueberry muffins. They are fantastic.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 22, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks. Our staff cook handles this assignment well.

Being a lifelong muffin additive specialist living off Montrose and Halsted, Mr. Noah Goode-Cookin provides us valuable support.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 22, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim Edmonds has been a positive

Ditto Reed Johnson. We are a better ballclub for their presence on the roster.

Felix Pie will be a trivia question within two years. He’s never going to hit major league pitching.

GET Rich Harden !! 9 starts, 4-0, 53 IP, 67 Ks, 2.53 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 22, 2008 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Please, someone post the See-and-Say.

I don’t have it handy.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 23, 2008 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

In the dark, deep recesses of my soul--the places that I don't talk about at parties...

I hope we get Rich Harden so I can hear MDBNIU talk about how his 2008 Cubs line…7.2 IP, 7 K, 2 ER, 87 games on DL…was a boon to this ballclub.

As for Mr. Edmonds, noticed something about him last night as we swept the Sox. His first AB, after he struck out, he muttered something to everyone in a blue and white pinstripe he could find. He saw SOMETHING he liked about what Vasquez was doing, and even though he thought he might not be able to capitalize, I think we’ll enjoy his old-guy, dad-strong perspective the rest of the year.

My first choice? Far from it. But if Mr. Edmonds can keep the warranty alive on his e-Bay bought youth-water, I’m all for it. I’m just wondering if CSN couldn’t pixelate his face and put someone like Adam Greenberg’s face over it. I still feel a tad slimy rooting for him. Not asking much…

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 23, 2008 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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