Open Thread: Cubs vs. White Sox, Sunday 6/22, 7:05 CT
by Al on Jun 22, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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Chicago White Sox at Chicago Cubs, Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
Sun-Times columnist Greg Couch isn't one of my favorites -- he often is way off base, such as when he ceded the NL pennant to the Mets when they got Johan Santana (that article is no longer on the Sun-Times website, but basically, he said the NL race was over. That one doesn't look so good now, does it, Greg?). But in his column today, he hit the nail on the head regarding the Sox and Sox fans' hatred of the Cubs and Cubs fans:
Sox GM Ken Williams complained that the Sox' World Series win three years ago goes less noticed than the Cubs' 100-year anniversary of losing. Guillen made comments about Wrigley Field having rats. Players called it a crummy place.
That's fine. And Williams is right that the Cubs' 100-year thing seems to be a matter of celebration, when it should be humiliation.
But why can't the Sox feel comfortable enough in their own skin, with their own trophy, rather than worry about Cubdom?
This obsession, this paranoia, this whole second-fiddle, little-brother thing, is just so unnecessary and pathetic.
Instead, this stuff gets into their heads. And the Cubs-Sox series means something entirely different, and more, to the Sox than it does to the Cubs. The Cubs are having a grand old time at a big party, and the Sox are running around with an inferiority complex.
I mean, really. Boo-hoo.
A-freakin-men. I will say that at least on THIS site, we aren't "celebrating" 100 years of failure. I'd rather not mention it at all, instead wanting to look forward to the future and celebrate the present season, which is shaping up as something really special.
One other note from this morning: Jim Hendry's comments when asked about Z's injury:"Yeah, and I don't take kindly to people that refer to things that happened [and say] the Cubs were dishonest," said Hendry, who appeared to be referring to a columnist from each of Chicago's two metro newspapers, one of whom he later confronted near the press box. "I have an issue with that. I always give the writers exactly what the doctors tell us.
"In Prior's situation, it took [Dr. James] Andrews to go in and find a hairline crack in his [shoulder] capsule that no MRI ever showed. I don't know how that equates to Zambrano, but we always try to do what's best for the players, take precautions and follow the doctors' medical advice. And I report pretty much word-for-word to [media] what the doctors give me. ... I don't think that refers to dishonesty."
As far as Z is concerned, for now, I'll take them at their word that he's going to miss two starts and will return from the DL July 4, as scheduled. If that doesn't happen, then it'll be valid to question management further.
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Ryan Dempster hasn't faced too many of the White Sox -- Orlando Cabrera is the only one who has more than 9 career AB against him (9-for-28, 3 doubles, 8 RBI). Dempster's particular nemesis is A. J. Pierzynski, who hit a devastating, game-winning, three-run homer off Dempster on July 1, 2006 at Wrigley Field with two out and two strikes in the 9th. But that was then and this is now. Dempster is 8-0 at home this season.
Javier Vazquez has the highest ERA of any Sox starter -- would you have guessed that would be the case before this season started? Derrek Lee has hit him hard and often -- 16-for-44 (.364/.383/.705, 6 doubles, 3 HR, 12 RBI), and the suddenly-hot Jim Edmonds has too (8-for-17, .471/.471/1.000, 3 doubles, 2 HR, 6 RBI). Lifetime he is 3-3, 4.84 in 14 starts vs. the Cubs.
Want to start a pool? What exact time will Joe Morgan first criticize the Cubs? Turn the ESPN sound off and listen to Pat & Ron, would be my recommendation. Here are today's other games at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Today's overflow comment threads will post at 8:00 pm and 9:00 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Hopefully I can dust of my broom tonight
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jun 22, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs vs. Sox fans
I definitely agree that Sox fans seemed more fixated and obsessed on the Cubs than the other way around.
To most diehard Cub fans I know the real rivalry is the Cardinals or anyone in our division,. They are the ones we would be fighting for a playoff slot with.
I don’t hate the Sox, The only time I care about them winning or losing is when they play the Cubs.
That said I want to beat them bloody tonight. But after tonight they are just another team.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 22, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1999
One of the things Sox fans still harp on 9 years later is they keep saying they swept us and knocked us out of first in 1999.
Yes that did start a slide (and we won 2 of 3 at the Cell later on) but we weren’t in first when we faced them at home in 99. We were a game out.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 22, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh the series that had two multiple hour rain delays…I remember that one
by Donbedouin on Jun 22, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What time does the pregame start ?
If it is 7.30 than I go 7.31 for Morgan to claim the Cubs are overrated, have not won
since 1908 and are just lucky in a bad division ( This he must say as it is dead wrong and
he gets so little right)
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 22, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Naw - it'd have to be at least 7:35...
Joe is going to spend at least the first five minutes telling us how great of a second-baseman he was… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinals will not go away this season people
Leading again in boston in the 6th, contrary to everyone saying they don’t have the talent or pitching they continue to prove us wrong, they will be there till the end of the season and will probably make the playoffs as well
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 22, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
5-3 brewers are up. Fielder just homered 430 ft.
and the Cards are winning again????
I never would have dreamt the NL central would have been this competative.
Let’s sweep the White Sox so that even if Cards sweep the Bosox they dont gain any ground!!!!!
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest mystery in baseball this season
Even with pujols in that lineup they still aren’t frightening and I wouldn’t hesitate to say any pitcher in that rotation is above mediocre.
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 22, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true but have the bosox been swept yet this season?
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’m pretty sure the Devil Rays swept them.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 22, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TB did. Oakland did. Toronto did. The Dodgers did! Baltimore swept a 2 game series.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bo Sox w/o Big Papi is a very different team
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 22, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its an organizational thing
they lead the majors in walks drawn, they play good defense, theres no hesitation when a starter struggles to “get him a win” because the team’s more important. Lots of respect for the Cards.
I just wish they’d go away. Hehehe
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you hear the F bomb in top of the 6th?
When Barton stole third a rowdy fan screamed “AHHHHHH…. Fucked up!!” Lol!
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are 5-5 in their last 10
and were swept by the Royals. Nothing they have done lately makes me change my judgement that they do not have the players to make the playoffs.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 22, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright Cubs let's sweep these turds!
"Commit to the Indian!"
by Bpatterson83 on Jun 22, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fukudomo
is playing right!!
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by cubsluver22 on Jun 22, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whats the over/under
on how many times he calls Dome “Fukudomo”?
When we played last time it was at least 3. I bet it’ll be more than that this time.
Or how often will his swing be compared to Ichiro’s or Matsui’s? Heh.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5
Sometime It’s just better to put a solid album on… rather than the nonsense that we have to endure from ESPN. Don’t think I’ll be doing that tonight with the Sox though
"Commit to the Indian!"
by Bpatterson83 on Jun 22, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In another Sun-Times Column
by Mariotti (I think I recall it was him), he mentioned that the White Sox organization fostered hatred of the Cubs in their marketing strategy. Anyone know what he was referring to, and do you think that exacerbated White Sox fans rivalry with Cubs fans?
As a side note, I think this is the dumbest rivalry in all of sports, but it’s good to see the Cubs beat up on anyone, be it the White Sox or Cardinals.
by daeviant on Jun 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was a billboard outside of Wrigley
a few seasons back that said something to the effect of “Real Baseball 8.5 miles South.” I don’t recall the exact wording, but that’s the only anti-Cub sentiment I can remember in their ad campaigns.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 22, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Daily Southtown
had billboards that read, “Sox Win, Cubs Lose, Another Perfect Day.”
by ChipSet on Jun 22, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that the Southtown or the Sox though?
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 22, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was back in Chicago 2 weeks ago
I saw a little hot dog stand in Mt. Greenwood that had a sign that if the Cubs lose and the Sox win on the same day, hot dogs are only a buck and a quarter the next day. So, that must mean they are probably going for about 6 bucks today, eh? LOL
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 22, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morgon Pool..
When we are first at bat, I say 7:21 CT
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 22, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vasquez isn't intimidated
by the cubs lineup he says. I’d think that the team with the second most runs scored in baseball would make him think a little more and considering the pounding we gave them yesterday. Let’s light em up cubbies…
by cavebear on Jun 22, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bill Murray may make an appearance after the game tonight
just saying
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Caddyshck was on this morning
funny funny stuff
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 22, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lost a chunk of respect for Murray
after reading the papers filed for his divorce. He apparently repeatedly abandoned his family for long periods… she didn’t know where he was half the time. He’s got four kids and that’s just not right.
Love him as an actor/comedian though.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and when he makes appearences on the board
hence the ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and SWEET!
Ankiel makes a boneheaded play in CF that allowed Crisp to hit a triple with no outs
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i just found the bosox/cards game
and turned it on to see that play. awesome. C’mon Red Sox
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tie game!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 on, 2 out
for Manny Ramierez. Lets go BoSox!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the TBS announcers
are godawful
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now they're loaded
for Lowell, who I really like.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez
can’t get the ball over the plate 2-0
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 22, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded Walk
BoSox up 3-2
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 22, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox tie it up inthe bottom of the eigth
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 22, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
espn
on the air in 3…2…1!!! hello everybody and welcome once again to SUUUnday night baseball here at wrigley field in chicago where the cross town rivals will meet. i’m jon miller and this is my partner joe morgan. together again for our 29th year and making your sunday nights dreadful.
jon-wow joe derosa has played a good 2b this year.
joe-d lee and his father, what great ballplayers
jon-theriot has been quite a suprise
joe-ahh man that jermaine dye is white hot jon
jon-how bout the guy in rf for the cubs
joe—fukudomo has been pretty good but matsui and ichiro are better
commercial break
jon-good matchup tonight
joe-i dont care about the matchup lets talk about my fishing trip,my playing career, and black baseball players jon, you know the deal.
cubsluver22 then throws a remote through his bigscreen causing a fight with his wife that leads to a divorce.
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by cubsluver22 on Jun 22, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you forgot to mention barry bonds
at least 15 times
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you also didnt mention that Joe got an honorary doctorate
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, where did you get tonight's script?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot one...
Joe: “Bobby Cox told me several years ago that DeRosa can really hit. They just couldn’t find a place for him to play.”
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 22, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston with bases loaded
Lowell up with 2 outs in 8th
Fukudometer: Created 3/31/08 Wrigley Debut 4/5/08 WGN and Japan TV Debut 4/6/08 Sun Times Debut: 4/20/08
by Fuk-U-Meter on Jun 22, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lowell is just waiting for one
I bet he’s sitting Dead Red right now
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bases loaded walk
3-2 boston!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded walk
Boston leads, 3-2.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Generally, I root for the Red Sox in AL Action
right now, doubly so…
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I root for the Cubs and who ever plays St. Louis
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching matchup in KC:
SF: Yabu
KC: Yabuta
Weird.
Fukudometer: Created 3/31/08 Wrigley Debut 4/5/08 WGN and Japan TV Debut 4/6/08 Sun Times Debut: 4/20/08
by Fuk-U-Meter on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JOBU NEED RUM!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And finally
someone else is up in the Cards pen. Man
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-2 to the top of the ninth
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Youkilis strikes ot
Boston leads 3-2 heading into 9th
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
*claps* c'mon bosox
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnathon Pabelbon
is on for the save facing Ankiel
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem I got Lowell, JD and Crisp
On my BCB fantasy team. All the Cubs went too fast so I loaded up on Red Sox
(I will never have ANY Cardinals, Mets. Yankees or White Sox on fantasy teams because
they are never in my fantasies in a good way anyway)
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 22, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
umm.....twss? i guess?
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey-o
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
i dunno. maybe not.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
strikes out looking
2 out
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was a little down at first
but pitchtrak says middle-away
Strikeout looking either way
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twss!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's up 2-0
Paps trying to make it interesting
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan walks
Kennedy digs in now
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over Crisp's head
tye game.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that was some snap on that fastball.
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he probably is the best coser in the game
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
my money is on Joe Nathan who remains criminally underrated
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true...
it is debatable, but Pabelbon has proven to be reliable over these past two years.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pabelbon does have a better WHIP than Nathan
But Nathan has a better ERA,
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nathan was good enough to get big money from the Twins
which is almost impossible. :-)
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but Pabelbon is younger than Nathan and he was meant to become the SP for the Redsox. Actually, he still can, but at this point the Redsox need him to be the closer.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
i just think nathan is underrated. pabelbon is very good.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
kind of shame he’s so good and the mariners are so awful
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a super cool guy too
had some beers with him last year at spring training
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty cool
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
And Bedard and King Felix were meant to be the unstoppable 1-2 punch.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Felix's stuff
is unbelieveable. And if half the stories you hear about Bedard are true, he’s a douchebag.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy this should be fun...
I wonder why La Russa sends in another pinch hitter
If there is a triple or something that could mean trouble later on assuming no more runs are scored afterward.
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers win 7-3
Although the did Brewers walked 10
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMNIT!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my god you're kidding me
Cards just tied it up
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who wants Coco Crisp now
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 22, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 El Borto
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this team is overachieving!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just wait till the Cubs face the Cardinals
Then we will see what happens to the deadbirds
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schumaker digs in
and falls behind 0-1
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
0-2
now. the split is nasty
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only good news is LaRussa has completely emptied his bench...
good managing there DUI
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering that too
why wouldn’t he hold someone in-case he couldn’t get the lead now?
by BlueDWarrior on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ground ball to 3rd. 3 out
Bot 9. Tie game.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have waited till AFTER the inning
to heap praise on Papelbon
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 22, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how are they winning with?
shumacker – he was a mediocre players for 2 1/2 seasons
barton – looks like a crack dealer
ludwick – like EVERY other cardinal having a career year and he is batting cleanup!
no carpenter, pujols, mulder, etc.!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not to mention an HGH CF in Ankiel!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Glaus!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy on Brian Barton...
He is about to get his aerospace engineering degree from Miami and he worked for Boeing designing satellites before playing for STL
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+100
That was a super uncool comment, Chanman. There are many reasons why there aren’t many black baseball players these days, and comments like this are one of them.
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
by berselius on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not being racist
hell if a white guy looked trashy i’d jump at that too. I am FAR from being a racist
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus barton looks nothing like this ;-)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is an "alleged" crack dealer
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying someone looks trashy
Is not the same as saying someone looks like a crack dealer. Just sayin’
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
by berselius on Jun 22, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Barton
Here’s an interview from Baseball American with Brian Barton from last year. Interesting read.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/263799.html
by John Q Freejazz on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They might not have good individual players (right)
but they’re team is kicking ass.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(right now*)
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
their*
that whole post was the worst.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jun 22, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a 1st half hot streak
Too much baseball remains. Teams sometimes get off to a strong start for th first half of the season, but then they fall off the face of the earth.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the cards don't have
ned yost. TLR is much better.
They ain’t goin’ away.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with bosox players her saying that doesn't sound nearly as dirty as w/ the Cards player
lol
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well each time you mentioned a Card digging in...
someone responded w/ twss. IMO the thought of someone saying that about a member of cards is WAY dirtier than about a Bosox player. LOL
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
didn’t notice. i’m just repeating chip caray. lol
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats ok it was a lame attempt at humor on my part anyways
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its okay
we’re used to it. I keed, I keed.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Tony should have put Izzy in
perfect situation for him
FYI Royals come back from being down 7 to tie Giants.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe ankiel can pitch again...
and throw one the wrong way into right field by ‘accident’
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh my god ankiel's non-catch...
i didn’t see that until now… what a clown! that’s hilarious
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was funny
completely fell on his ass
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Varitek popped out
Crisp up now lines it to 2b.
2 out
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
btw
i don’t know how n-sider does this. i suck at this
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
takes practice
You will get used to it, lol.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
god this song reminds me of spaceballs lol
i’m a mog, half man, half dog… i’m my own best friend!
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Okajima on
and he has been awful this year, nothing like the lights out he was last year
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His numbers are not that bad.
a 3.16 ERA with a 1.24 WHIP. Worse than last year, but still a decent setup man.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awful was a bit strong
but he was so great last year
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw hows the weather in wrigleyville?
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scattered showers
It’s on and off day.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man
Two hours before game time and it’s already mobbed out front. I was trying to figure out what time I wanted to get to the park…hmmm
by MattStratton on Jun 22, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I'd LOVE to see for myself.
couple hours too far north to do that thro
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that webcam is pretty sweet
thanks to whoever posted that in the game thread the other day!
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scattered Showers
With a chance of tear drops for White Sox fans.
by daeviant on Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't read the above comments...
so forgive me if this has already been asked. Does anyone know if there will be blacked out regions for the ESPN broadcast tonight? I live in Winterset, IA (near Des Moines), and my house was blacked out for the TBS game this afternoon.
by WartburgCub on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
national broadcast
no blackout that i know of.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
but sunday almost never is.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: I don't know if any of you are Top Gear fans
But the Season 11 premier just hit the web… utilize your favorite downloading method to grab it, I’m pretty excited myself :-)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
best car show ever...
actually one of the best tv shows ever, imho
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me either
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okajima strikes out
Ankiel, stranding 2. Onwards to the Bot 10 we go
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa wtf
the game just switched over to some infomercial for me…
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Owings should become a hitter
And give up pitching. His numbers are not so good this year and I know he is a young, but I can see him becoming a solid number 2 hitter.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 22, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The D-bags
in general have slumped at bit of late. He did do pretty well last year.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fan interference?
boo!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa thought that last word started w/ a "c" for a second there
scared me
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was gonna say, you must know something the rest of the world doesn't!
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um. Fourtunatley
i’m not privy to that kind of information.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that game July 1, 2006.
It was one of the games I drove over from Pittsburgh to see. I caught the Jacque Jones HR ball in the 8th to take the lead. Greatest day of my life until the top 9.
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 22, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
about 50 miles north
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
i sort of grew up in Wexford, and then we moved to Cranberry Township… lived between the two for 7 years, awesome city, I really want to get back sometime
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm from New Castle
I was born in Illinois but grew up out here
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
Born in Lake Forest, lived there til I was 3 and then we moved to Pittsburgh until I was 10, then back to Naperville… now I’m in Peoria…
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have family in Coal City from my dad's side
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he went
but the umpire STILL has to ask the 3rd base ump, who has the better angle
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF this keeps going
this game is going to get very interesting, both teams are pretty bare on the bench
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and it does
we go to the 11th.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
Giants and Royals tied at 10, bottom 7… what a slugfest for two horrible offensive teams
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
watching okajima pitch
makes my shoulder and neck hurt. owie
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
storm clouds coming back through Chicago
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bases loaded two outs
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i just want this one over
the tbs announcers are making me almost wish for joe morgan.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the local STL announcers are even worse
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd bet
chip caray is tolerable, but the guy he’s paired with is godawful.
that slider was filthy
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards have the bases loaded
w/ 2 outs.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tonights lineup:
SOX
Cabrera ss
Pierzynski c
Quentin lf
Dye rf
Swisher 1b
Crede 3b
Wise cf
Ramirez 2b
Vazquez p
CUBS
Fukudome rf
Patterson lf
Lee 1b
Ramirez 3b
Edmonds cf
Soto c
DeRosa 2b
Theriot ss
Dempster p
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looks good
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like mike lowell
he just seems like a good guy everytime i hear him talk.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he survived cancer
he’s pure class in my book
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was on with tirico
and van pelt a few weeks ago. he was very engaging and fun to listen to.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i listened to that too
definitely a classy guy. it was the day after he finally hit his first HR
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love mike tirico
and van pelt. Van pelt’s been my favorite sportscenter guy for ages and Tirico could read the phonebook and I’d listen. What a great voice.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely a good show.
the show with orestes destrada is not my favorite
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
youkilis at the plate
lowell on second, 0 out
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
izzy falls behind 3-0
i think this guy’s career may soon be over
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game thread will
be trashed by game time with all this other baseball talk. Why don’t you start a game thread for the game you are watching?
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this game bodes pretty heavily for us...
if you think about it
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still it should
have has it’s own fanpost. Now this thread will be shot before our game even starts.
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought about it
but when we started it was almost over, but this game just keeps going on
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just have a bad feeling about cheering for the Red Sox...
...like we might be root against them quite feverishly in a few months… but that’s just me.
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isringhausen in?
I can’t fathom TLR’s inability to understand that he can get maximum utility from his top relievers if he throws them for more than one inning…especially in the face of extra innings.
He brings in Isringhausen after his top two relievers only pitch one inning? If Izzy blows it, they sure deserve to lose
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
by berselius on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we may need an overflow thread before the game starts!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's three fricken hours
til game time.
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I was thinking we'll need start of the game thread
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 22, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox dont have Manny (or Ortiz) in thier lineup now.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 22, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lets go
Fanpost here. maybe that’ll end this thing
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cubs
sure we need an overflow.these guys just broadcast the whole sox-cards game here.anyways the sox fans are jealous of the cubs popularity. you know it,they know it.they.ll never get over it.we need to win to keep pace. hey the astros just beat the rays 2 of 3 .does that mean houston is the better team???
by NOMAR on Jun 22, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess Morgan-dissing is universal
From the first comment in the game thread at South Side Sox:
I can already hear Joe-f**-Morgan and his lickspittle Miller salivating at the effin’ Cubs playng in the effin’ Cathedral with the best record in baseball.
Heh.
by MattStratton on Jun 22, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Card just lost, walk off home run, Kevin Youkilis...
Cubs are now 4 up in the division :-)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just saw the story about Hamilton
on Sportscenter. Think if we hadn’t traded him to the reds after we picked him up in the Rule 5 Draft.
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Except the reason we picked him up
was because the Reds asked us to do so and trade them to them. If we had picked him up and not traded him, Hendry would have broken an agreement with them.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 22, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We took him as a favor to the Reds
The Reds asked us to take him for them so that no one else would grab him before they picked. We never had any intention of ever keeping him.
I wish ESPN wasn’t full of complete morons and would mention this (or just leave us out altogether.)
The Reds were in a unique position to take Hamilton because of the Narron family’s friendship with his family. If we’d have taken him, we didn’t have the support network he needed. He’d have probably ended up badly with us and we’d all be screaming about how we cold have given that loser a chance.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on Jun 22, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd forgotten about that
thanks for the info
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After watching the TBS game,
I remember why I am sooooo glad Chip left. He’s just plain awful.
by cubswin on Jun 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said yesterday that the bleacher line on Friday was the longest I'd ever seen. Well, I stand corrected.
Tonight is definitely the longest I’ve ever seen.
Same as Friday – all the way down Sheffield and right turn onto Addison towards Clark. Only this time, it went past being even with the Starbucks across the street… past the shuttered up souvenir store… past the alley… past Luis’ Body Shop…
The end of the line was almost to Gate E – that little side door entrance/exit to the infirmary. And the most amazing thing is, this was at 5:30 – the gates had been open for almost a half hour already!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I asked this in
the picture thread but is it mostly Cub fans or a mix?
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, in case anyone was wondering...
...the Orioles have designated shortstop Freddie Bynum for assignment.
I want to point out that this first means that the Orioles made him a shortstop.
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, Wrigley Field quiz time...
take a look at the following two camera shots
Now tell me, which view is the one for General Admission seating? ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When you guys get a chance
go over to diary I made.. basically it’s about determining your personality and to see if you’re compatable to any of the current Cubs.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jun 22, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That smell...
2008: 23 year old Sox starter says that he noticed a urine smell at Wrigley.
2005: The day before the Sox went started the ALDS vs. Boston, the Tribune printed an article on the front page where the writer wrote of drug smoke drifting from the courtyards of the projects so that you could smell it in The Cells skyboxes. After that fanciful and impossible tale, the article made sure to talk about crime, drug abuse and “oh, the dangerous scary black people who live around the Cell.”
Cubbie fans and the media react wildly to the comment of Danks. On the other hand, Cubbie fans and the media ignored the smear printed by the Cubbies owner, the Chicago Tribune.
That encapsulates much of the problem. The Cubbies don’t need to attack the Sox when their surrogates do it for them – the Tribune, Jay Mariotti, Greg Couch, WGN Radio, etc.
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
the Cubune treats the Sox with no respect. It is a crime how the poor, poor Sox of that great humanitarian, Jerry Reinsdorf are so oppressed by the Cubs, The Cubune and the Cub players. I sure feel sorry for them and their poor, polite, non-trolling fans. We all know how polite, cheerful and sober they are in contrast to the rowdy, negative, drunk Cub Fans. Thank goodness we have such Sox greats like Todd Cruz and A.J. as good examples to our kids.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 22, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure you flag it
for scarcasm.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 22, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you think
Jay Mariotti is a surrogate for the Cubs? Hah. Hah, I say.
And really. 2008 should read: The GM, Manager and players of the White Sox talk trash before getting their asses whupped.
You know, it’s funny. I don’t care about the White Sox. I dislike the stadium, but I rarely spend time worrying about what the White Sox are doing. But then your GM and Manager had to go and try to make it personal.
So now, I look for a completion of the sweep today, and a sweep in that miserable bar you call a stadium to the south in the coming weeks. Maybe your GM and Manager will learn to keep their mouths shut.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
Al continues to say the ‘05 Sox were lucky because the games were close. Let’s see Cubbies win 1 run game Friday and yesterday by what 4 runs?
“The GM, Manager and players of the White Sox talk trash before getting their asses whupped.”
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you considered talking to a therapist about your inferiority complex?
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
... I didn’t “rise” to your level of personal insults, generalizations and smears.
by DrCrawdad on Jun 23, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a Cubs site.
If you don’t like what’s said here the remedy is pretty simple.
by sue369 on Jun 23, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How'd that prediction turn out for you?
...a sweep in that miserable bar you call a stadium to the south in the coming weeks. Maybe your GM and Manager will learn to keep their mouths shut.
Maybe you should learn to keep your mouth shut.
...getting their asses whupped.
How did it feel this past weekend, watching your team get disciplined?
by DrCrawdad on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under my ...
For a group of people who go on and on about how they don’t care about the Sox, Cubbie fans sure let the Sox “get under their skin.”
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For someone who claims
to be not trolling you sure spend a lot of time here.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 22, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what you call it...
... if it’s trolling or whatever.
Oh, and there sure are a lot of Cubbie fans (who don’t care about the Sox…) posting messages in the last three years in the Sox NG.
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox fans get under my skin
because they are so anti-cub, but i couldn’t care less about the sox themselves.
Ozzie only irrates me when we play the sox because he NEVER talks about his team, its only about Wrigley or the Cubs.
Thats it though. Sox fans are usually found complaining about who got the first bill on the news at night, while the Cubs fans I know don’t care about that. Thats the difference.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is worse?
A 23 yr old saying he smells something? Or a newspaper running an article about people smelling drugs (an impossibility)?
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care
there both pointless and lame and have NOTHING to do with the game. ::yawn::
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is worse? Well, normally I'd say a Sox troll posting something inane over here
but then that would make me responding to it probably even worse, so I’ll save you the trouble. You win. You have succinctly and profoundly proven your point. Please await a call from Mayor Daley to schedule that news conference where you will be given a key to the city. And some guy from Sweden is on line one wondering when you can make it over there for another award ceremony later this year…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on the weather?
It looked like it was coming down pretty hard on Baseball Tonight. Anyone know if we will be able to play tonight?
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks like
it might start under a delay. But the game will get in.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Kayla Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jun 22, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't want to start and then have a delay
Don’t want to use Dempster for a couple of innings and then have the game get held up for an hour or so.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just looked at the webcam
and while the tarp is out, it’s… sunny. Go fig. Maybe it’s already blown through?
Ryan Theriot: Worst Water Polo Punter Ever.
by bluebythebook on Jun 22, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from the radar
the chunk of the rain is already over the lake. should be okay.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs attack the Sox on the field.
They have won 8 of the last 9 from the Sox. That speaks volumes. Ozzie likes to play games. The Cubs like to play baseball.
by Rick B on Jun 22, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is the total record?
The Cubs attack the Sox on the field.
What is it a one or two game lead for the Cubbies?
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dr Crawdad: I am sure I am like
a lot of Cub fans who grew up in Chicago and live elsewhere now. I remain a true blue Cub fan but could care less about what the Chi-Sux did in 2005 or any other time. It is impossible to care about the White Sux when you hear those low class announcers blab and blab that “homer” nonsense every game. It reflects so poorly on the organization. Living away from Chicago you really see how low class the White Sux are compared to other teams in both leagues.
Sad, but true. Most of us don’t dislike the Sux, we just are indifferent.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 22, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fork tongue
Let’s see…
... you’ve claimed to be a Sox fan when you post in the Sox NG (is that trolling?). Then “amen” to a post about ignoring the Sox.
by DrCrawdad on Jun 22, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i care about the Sox
6 games a year. when we are playing them. Other than that i could care less. I care about the Cards Bewers and sometimes Houston but definitely not the Sox
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected.
Six times a year, I want to completely kick their sorry asses. :-)
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 22, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I care about them when they play the Cards too. Then I hope they win. ;)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are just like any other team
not in the NL central to me. I wanna beat em when we play em and i cheer for them when they are playin the rest of our division
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attack them on the field
Or as i say “Go Ligue on their butts”
by daeviant on Jun 22, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is weird.
I live like 2 miles north of Wrigley and it’s sunny here.
by daeviant on Jun 22, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ok nevermind
I just looked out the back door and it’s dark down south… and there’s a rainbow.
by daeviant on Jun 22, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Harry's promise to the Cubs from Heaven
that there will never be another century without a win. :P
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of tiny pockets of storms
Looks like it could be an intermittently rainy game at best, and lots of mini-rain delays at worst.
by AceCubbie on Jun 22, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gametime! gametime!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am SO excited
SWEEEP!!!!!!!! Let’s go Cubs!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou said
Edmonds has a swollen wrist and would play or not play tonight depending on how he felt in BP.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 22, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he was in the lineup a few hours ago
has it changed?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Yahoo boxscore
has him in it, but who knows. Lou’s pre-game interview is taped awhile before the game, so things could have changed but not been updated.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 22, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone have an answer to this?
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably just have to wait until they start the game
the Cubs didn’t get a full BP session in so no telling if Jimbo got a good read on his wrist or not.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed Johnson is expected to go on the DL as well
...which is helpfully buried in this Tribune article.
Can you say Eric Patterson, center fielder?
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like Dome, surely
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 22, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only is Wrigley Field mobbed tonight....
but this game thread is already up to almost 300 posts and the game hasn’t even started yet.
I AM PUMPED!! GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First pitch pushed back
By Mark Gonzales – 6:42 p.m.
Sunday night’s first pitch between the White Sox and Cubs has been pushed back to 7:15 p.m.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Which means whoever had 7:01 on the trash talk poll will win
because Joe will have to find something to talk about.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh ye of little faith...
never underestimate the power of a self-inflated ego…
Joe will spend at least the first 15 minutes telling everyone how he, the greatest 2nd baseman in MLB history, overcame the many challenges a rain delay presents…
THEN he’s start trashing the Cubs…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 22, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late, the other asshole already talked about....
being in first in June doesn’t guarantee being there at the end. Thanks for the reminder.
Oh, we are going to get the Bartman reference even before the first pitch.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air!
Lets hope it stays that way!
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gah 2003!
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
can't we talk about LAST year's
playoffs?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMFG
Leave it to ESPN to lead off w/ more Bartman bullshit… pardon my swearing but I am SO SICK of this… that network CAN NOT LET IT GO
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God
For MLB Audio. You all should keep me posted on ESPN inanity though, I find it funny. ;)
Oh, and Lance, I’ll add you to facebook when I activate it again—I am taking a facebook hiatus until the move, the only distractions I’m allowing are Cubs based distractions. ;)
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see it the
first game of the season that they carry the Cubs not every fucking game they carry the Cubs.
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"its only june"
hey shut the hell up! be optimistic if your a fan!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really like this Turow piece
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah i made me want to
turow up
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must love root canal.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the father to son father to son
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was cute
but we were in the play offs last year, 2003 wasn’t the most recent heartbreak.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Can we talk about this team and what a great year they’re having, leading the majors in many categories… better than the mighty Yankees (oh how the might have fallen) and NOT how they’re going to fall apart, 2003, blah blah blah… this is why I hate ESPN
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hey they aren't the red sox
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad cant make it to the southside incase of a sweep
Nickel beers at McNally’s on Western Ave. usually if the Cubs sweep the white sox, theyve done it in years past so it would be nice to laugh at them loosing business again
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Omg
what kind of color combination is that on miller??
And, Aramis FINALLY gets some credit.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe someone threw up on his shirt during the Turow piece.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for once morgan is right (about Aramis)
by Donbedouin on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe-morgan-fukudome-misprounouncing-o-meter: 1
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dude.
If it’s your job to talk, learn how to say the names correctly.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna keep this up all night
its gonna be fun
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like what a kid would say in the car when they were little...
Are we there iot?
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say it ain't so!
Joe Morgan in the ESPN booth tonight
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Riot or Fukudome shirt for the game tonight? Keep in mind that my fantasy team is taking on a team that starts the Riot. I’ll let the public decide.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These guy's are clowns
Help I'm a Cubs fan stuck in Cards Country
by jac on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cue the circus music.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Lord Gammons is there
The Trinity is complete… Satan will rise tonight, and the Armageddon will commence…
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where’s erin andrews when we need her
by Donbedouin on Jun 22, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erin and Rick Sutcliffe and I could relax.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That warmed my heart.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't we just watch the game and get rid of these yahoos
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jun 22, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, there's the dig at the Cubs from Gammons.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe we get to look forward
to 2 weeks of this. Oye.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So they're going to beatify Ozzie all night?
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
of course
don’t you know he’s a misunderstood genius?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All managers should rip their city
the best ballpark in the nation and their entire lineup.
It’s brilliance!!!
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget
leaving a pitcher who can’t get anyone out the day after you took out a kid who got everyone out. thats golden
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The absurdity of beatifying Ozzie hurts my head.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Gammons
but Morgan ESPECIALLY drives me crazy, I mean Ryne Sandberg is my favorite player ever and Morgan discriminated against him because he was as good if not better than morgan, what a total dousch
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're Stuck on an Island
And you have to live the rest of your life w/ a baseball announcer… choose between…
Joe Morgan
or
Joe Buck
(suicide not an option)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Murder them both!!!
Didn’t have to commit suicide!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Joe Buck
So long as there is no Tim McCarver.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go with Buck
He at least occasionally exhibits an operating brain.
Every once in a while…
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got to go with Buck
Atleast it makes sense with his biased against the Cubs, Morgan… damn he looks like somebody who is laying in a casket with a bad job done by the embalmer
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I read Ryno's stats to Morgan for eternity?
That might be fun…
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be HILARIOUS
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DISRESPECT
Let’s go to a Red Sox highlight and talk over the national anthem… unbelievable… ESPN has no soul… I usually don’t rip on these guys, because they are appealing to their major markets… but still… that’s just wrong… I bet Joe Morgan didn’t even take his hair off for the anthem
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He was just wondering why they sang it now
“Don’t they sing at the seventh inning stretch?”
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well they probably didn't get all the highlights in earlier
the game did go on for a million years
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Game a little delayed because of a rainstorm"
BS, they needed to get the Red Sox highlight in…
And somebody PLEASE tell me we’ll get awesome pics of the rainbow that ended at Wrigley… that was incredible
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feels like MLB is the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers.....
and some minor league teams.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That league would suck.
Are they even over .500 collectively?
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would appear they are...
but only because of the Red Sox.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gorgous rainbow
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah!
Missing that visual might be the only thing I miss about not having this game tonight on video. :( Anyone got it?
(Don’t have cable at the office, and it’s blacked out on MLB.com)
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaaaaaagh
Sorry. Involuntary gag reflex from seeing Pierzynski
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the
pregame on CSN tonight? They talked to AJ and asked him if he would ever play for the Cubs and he said sure and he hoped that the fans would accept him. BARF
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
Edmonds I can take. I would refuse to acknowledge AJ’s presence on the team. “Oh, look, a ball just magically flew out of the park.”
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is a "Cuban immigra"?
Is that like an old wooden ship or something?
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
STOP FOCUSSING ON OZZIE... HE"S A PUNK...
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jun 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright
Someone should throw a shoe at Ozzie
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What would you have given
If the old man he was talking to threw something at him? Could it get any better than Ozzie getting pelted with an Old Style before the first pitch?
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then you'd be wasting a perfectly good beer
Cmon, throw something worthless at him
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not big enough to toss AJ though.
:(
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LETS GO DEMPSTER
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dome looks so fluid when he runs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
love the way he throws the bat
It’s almost as if his run toward first is part of his swing
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Cubs led by Derek Lee... and the leftfielder... also heading out there"
WTF? Lookin for a Soriano plug there Miller? Oh wait, he’s hurt… have some more Fiber…
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Jim Edmonds 11 time gold glove winner."
Good call Joe, too bad he only has 8
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have hawk and dj
it pains me to say that, but i can’t stand these wind bags
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay i'm legally blind
and i can read the difference between 8 and 11.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish i was partially deaf right now
just enough so i couldn’t hear these idiots
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and off goes espn volume
Hello Pat and Ron
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know
Why Dempster started flicking his glove during his delivery? Don’t remember him doing it before this year. Has he always done it but I’m just not used to seing him use a wind-up?
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think it's a timing mechanism
sort of like a batter tapping his toe… but i’d love to know the full story
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He started doing it when he realized
he was telegraphing his pitches
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 22, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His glove was wiggling when he used a certain grip...
...for an offspeed pitch (I want to say the changeup, but I could be wrong.) So now he does it intentionally on all pitched to cover it up.
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the split
you have to push hard to get your fingers around it so it is noticible
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if he did it before
Does it so he can turn the ball in the glove before he delivers it. Keeps the batter from guessing what he’s about to throw. That’s what I remember hearing somewhere … maybe L&B?
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like it's only out of the wind up though
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't use that movement from the stretch
I think it would make it way to easy to steal off of him.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he used it to grip his split finger fastball...he has to push a little harder into the glove
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow on the radio
they still havent called the first pitch
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather be listening to a dentist drill right now
being operated by a crying baby
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy did Pierc!@#ski lose some weight
He almost looks like a cancer patient
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did you know?
“AJ doesnt get booed by his own team” -Joe Morgan
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
but I did just learn from John Miller that Michael Barrett doesn’t play for the Cubs anymore… i thought he just changed his name to Geovany and started wearing #18
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, that might work out better for him than his current gig...
Just saying.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're dialed in on the speed of Dempster's pitches.
Both singles right back up the middle.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
Joe Morgan = the Oracle of Cincinnati
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i guess i'll take that
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not even one out into the game and Morgan
has already mentioned how the ‘05 Sox ‘manafactured runs”.
Bull.Shit.
VORPy
by VS on Jun 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
05 sox
led the majors in HRs. lotta small ball there…
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
roll em up
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
He said Riot’s name right… progress
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Consume fecal matter and expire White Sox!!!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
eat shit and die
he just says it nicer
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've never heard of "eat shit and die?"
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah...I think you needed a comma before White Sox
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right. Thanks for the correction.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whew!!
Let’s hit em early and often Cubs!!!
by sue369 on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perfect place for two. Let’s get some runs!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get out yer brooms Cubs fans
After being swept on the road in Tampa it would be nice to return the favor on the White Sox
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JOHN MILLER CAN READ!
I’m so proud of him :-)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you know...
Jim Edmonds hit two home runs last NIGHT? Incredible considering he did the SAME THING in the afternoon… what an athlete
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DOME
walk it out bud
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lordie
481 obp at home
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about Miller
Is that I really like listening to him call Giants games on the local stations out here. I just think being in such proximity to Joe Morgan dumbs him down.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
i lived in SF last year and miller was fine when he was not near joe
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just moved to SF
Its been a pleasant surprise hearing him call Giants games.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good eye Dome.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go EPat!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
joe-morgan-fukudome-misprounouncing-o-meter: 2
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys know Eric Patterson was in a movie...?
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez dismissed the Cubs batters.
Said there were a number of more intimidating lineups in the American League.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we're not that scary you'd think he'd throw us strikes.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if this was posted
Referring to the AJ/Barrett dust up—Morgan said ”...If that happened on the South Side, they’s be cheering him.” Nice homework, d-head. It DID happen on the South Side, and the Sox fans were cheering him.
(I’ve just joined the game)
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it wasnt
and you are correct he did say that and it did happen on the south side
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball." -Harry Caray
by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
steal and 7 STRAIGHT balls
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome just looked and second
And said “i’ll take that”
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
joe-morgan-fukudome-misprounouncing-o-meter: 3
with a fukudoMIE
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome stole that one on Vazquez
Could even call that one defensive indifference
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Time to start the Vasquez strike watch?
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ROFLMAO
How’s it going there Oz?
What’s the Oracle’s take on this, or is he busy talking about NY or Boston?
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough to understand all of the Oracle's comments
But I think it involved throwing batting practice.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when i see
ozzie talk to someone i just think of scarface
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee swung at ball 2
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
basehit!
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0!
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera looked very confused there... I LOVE IT!!
Sox 0 Cubs 2
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YEAH, BABY!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
baby steps
to victory tonight
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DLee singles
Dome scores, EPat scores on Cabrera error
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice! Still no outs for RAMI!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This scares me though...
I really want EPat to stick around, and there’s no way that’s going to happen when Fonzy returns
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they should
take away one of his RBI’s for that
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they actually
gave the Error to Wise
by BradB311 on Jun 22, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?!
NICE! Good running EPat!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Morgan: I hate the Cubs
Let me disguise it as impartial commentary
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
joe-morgan-fukudome-misprounouncing-o-meter: 4
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This thread is coming to a halt.....
We need an 0.5 overflow thread….
by LT on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez ERA Watch
Infinity… right where it should be
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to pimp Boston
But that beat the Dice-K’s ERA of 63 from yesterday.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently typing is hard.
Should read, “But that beats Dick-K’s…”
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
e Pat
someone start thinking up how we keep him up. lefty bat, fast, solid in the outfield.
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramiraz OPB of .401???
Wow. When did that happen? I know he’s been solid lately, but damn.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Miller must want to punch Morgan in the nose
about 20 times each game. Morgan is sooooo dam condescending to him and Miller is actually quite knowledgable.
by West Coast Diehard on Jun 22, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to be patient. Vazquez is still wild.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha ha ha ha ha.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
edmonds is due
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in an inning
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about 3 home runs in the same at-bat?
Jimmy Ballgame could do it
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can be the Chuck Norris of the Cubs.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasn't even homered in this game yet!
he’s definitely ready to break out
by grifdog on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Edmonds wear eyeliner?
He may be a sissy but he’s our sissy
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, and he cuts himself
and listens to dashboard confessional… edmonds is so emo
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what if a guy listens to Dashboard Confessional?
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have both bands in my collection...
don’t really listen to either that much though
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE IS NOT a Cardinal anymore
He is a Cub, it should be no surprise we cheer for him
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D'oh
We’ll get em next time. Let’s go Jimmy!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DLee steals 2nd
that bodes well for my fantasy team :-)
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"lee steals second base"
TWSS!!
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
second base as in you know...
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got booed
for TWSSing myself the other day…
by LT on Jun 22, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was quoting miller
that counts, right?
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
love it
run that ass all day sweet lou
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
piling up my fantasy points with lee and fukudome steals
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job Lee.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
“he’s got a 939 “ops”” (followed by nervous laughter, like they’ve never heard of this stat before, which they probably haven’t)
by PrincetonCubs on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller just pronounced OPS as...
...”AH-ps,” one word, instead of spelling it out. And then Morgan just LAUGHS.
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
did I just see Edmonds say “holy fuck!”
by grifdog on Jun 22, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the "holy" part
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by Barkman on Jun 22, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dempster
looks drunk in the dugout
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be a fun table to drink with.
It would be great to see a drunken Demp yelling at Ozzie in his Harry voice.
by dbaltman on Jun 22, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets go GEO. Your turn for a long one
by West Coast Diehard on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Morgan complimenting Soto
No backhand yet
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Geo!
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Geo!!
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Jon. 27 pitches.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitches, time?
great first inning, make em work
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
27
thanks espn
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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 22, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why the hell do the bats sound like leather hitting skin tonight...?
not that I’m familiar w/ that sound or anything…
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The one thing I do like about the ESPN telecasts...
the little dynamic stats thing pitch by pitch, i think that’s really cool
by lswaidz on Jun 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice try O-cab
tried to give us another run
by grifdog on Jun 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bah! Soto in a mini slump right now
but i can deal with it
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by Chanman25 on Jun 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One good thing about this team..
Two or three guys having mini-slumps, others pick them up
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over the past two weeks, Soto's been hitting...
....174/.174/.348. Looks to me like he’s driving the ball well, and they’re just not falling in for hits. It’ll come around.
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's get a quick inning, Demp.
Need to get Vazquez out there again quickly.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 22, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
30 pitches or so
already for Vazquez. That’s nice.
by AceCubbie on Jun 22, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we're showing him
how tough our lineup is. hehehe
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind seeing Dotel again, not gonna lie.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me 30 pitch inning
Gameday just updated
by eamus-catuli on Jun 22, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
13 Minutes
and counting.
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by slcathena on Jun 22, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats always going to be my problem w/ demps
too many walks
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Z had that problem too
and got it straightened out…it was a reason to get rid of Demps as closer
by cocknfire on Jun 22, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z is actually younger than Dempster by quite a bit.
by cwyers on Jun 22, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z just turned 27
how old is demps, now? early 30s?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 22, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs