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Jim Hendry's contract

I have made no secret of the fact that I am a fan of Jim Hendry, 

Yes he's made mistakes but his good has far outweighed his bad,

This is his 6th full season as GM,  We are almost sure to have our 4th winning season and 3rd playoff appearance,

This is where it can get dicey.

His contract is up after this season,  I think he's loyal to the Cubs and loves Chicago and has a beautiful home in Park Ridge and all that stuff but with the ownership situation in flux he has to think of his future.

So if you're Crane Kenney what do you do?

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What do you do with Hendry?
  • Keep things the way they are
  • Sign him through 2009
  • Sign him longer than that
  • Fire him now he sucks!

  186 votes | Results

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How I voted

I voted to sign him now through 09.

Of course he might want a longer commitment than that,

I think he’s been our best GM in my lifetime or second to Dallas Green,

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 23, 2008 7:07 PM CDT   0 recs

Oh Goodness

What an error I made in my post, Meant to say his good has far outweighed his bad,

I spent several hours with a group of Sox fans today, Drained brain cells.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 23, 2008 7:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Punctuation Lesson No. 1

You don’t end sentences with commas.

Tomorrow’s lesson: Paragraph breaks!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 23, 2008 7:23 PM CDT   0 recs

Who cares lesson #1

Who cares

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 24, 2008 9:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's an inside joke between KOW and I.

She’s my special friend.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 24, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ha, cool

I just thought you were instigating because she always writes like this, sentence after sentence.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 24, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Note

Dat do not use that term around a Trixie Belden fan. That has a different meaning. Basically it means we look fondly at each other and hold hands for years. And the meaning of it is endlessly debated and discussed.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 24, 2008 4:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Um, OK.

(I have no idea what you’re talking about.)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 25, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't

I don’t,

care?

:why do you.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 24, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would vote for Hendry if he ran for President

He got Maddux back in 04 and he did it through the most delicate of negation
I fully understand that the trades for A-Ram & Lee , signing Dome, etc were bigger deals
but none required as much TLC.

Should Jimbo decide to enter politics he has my vote regardless of which party he
chooses.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 23, 2008 7:24 PM CDT   0 recs

So would I! I trust Hendry more than the two that are running....

Also, don’t you remember back in the ‘06 winter meetings when he had to go to the hospital because of chest pains and he still was able to sign Ted Lilly? In all seriousness he is one of the best GM’s in baseball and having being around him a few times he is a guy that absolutely hates to lose. His hands were really tied during the McFail bean counting years but, even then he was able to pull of some blockbuster deals

Svelte

by ryanbrixenivy on Jun 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendry's status is on hold until new ownership is in place

Surely he understands that. If he wants to someday become a “free agent” then that is his peragotive.

GET Rich Harden !!! 10 starts, 4-0, 59 IP, 72 Ks, 2.44 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 23, 2008 7:31 PM CDT   0 recs

This is spooky...

if you start with Hendry, replace the ‘y’ with an ‘a’, and then rearrange the letters, you get… Harden!

I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 24, 2008 7:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 26, 2008 10:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

McDonough bailed

in favor of more money and security.

Hendry has done a great job as GM. Not all trades have been successful (pitching for Pierre) but he’s made some steals. More important, he’s set a tone for the franchise that makes people want to play for the Cubs and stay with them. Zambrano, DLee, and Aramis could have made more money in free agency, but elected to stay. He seems to treat people right, and that counts for a lot.

New ownership has the right to make decisions, but retaining Hendry is a no brainer.

by Clark Addison on Jun 23, 2008 7:38 PM CDT   0 recs

I'd agree with this.

Assuming the Cubs do make the playoffs and go farther than they did in 2007, what owner would dump a GM (and staff) who just accomplished that?

Hendry has done a terrific job so far this year. He has more work to be done. I have confidence that he’ll do it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 23, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark Cuban

Al one of the reasons I don’t want Cuban as an owner is he would fire Hendry to get his own guys,

Someone like Levin would keep/fire people on their merits.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 24, 2008 7:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and you know this... how?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 24, 2008 7:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cuban

Cuban is Mark Cuban first and big ego first.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 24, 2008 4:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

gee - you think?

It’d be pretty hard for Cuban to get where he is today withOUT having a big ego. That still doesn’t provide any substance to your statement that “he would fire Hendry to get his own guys”

Cuban owns the Mavericks, an NBA team. So he’s probably well-versed in who’s who in NBA management circles. But I kinda doubt he’s got a MLB GM-type executive in his back pocket, just itching to run a team. And there’s no way he’d bring in a non-baseball executive.

So the only reason to fire Hendry would be if Cuban knew of someone better. Since he doesn’t have any baseball people in his direct employ, he’d have to peruse the open market – and of all the unemployed baseball execs out there, who is better than Hendry?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 25, 2008 12:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe it's because

Maybe it’s because she ran into Cuban at her local Dominick’s.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 24, 2008 8:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds like the most likely scenario.

KOW’s been known to have the inside track on these sorts of things…. if only we could all have her level of knowledge

by sackings108 on Jun 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LMAO

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 24, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right!

He has made the Cubs a place where players want to play. I hope he hangs around for a long time, and I also hope his face goes down in history as a classic Cub. Such as, Banks, Sandberg, Williams, Harry Carey, etc…

by TheHawkRules on Jun 23, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If Hendry would to somehow

Land C.C. at the deadline

He would then have the legacy of the greatest GM in Cubs history.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08

by Galvan316 on Jun 23, 2008 9:58 PM CDT   0 recs

If Hendry would to somehow

Land C.C. at the deadline And the Cubs win the World Series

He would then have the legacy of the greatest GM in Cubs history.

/fixed

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Jun 24, 2008 8:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

True that.

"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 24, 2008 9:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Coming out of the black hole

that were the MacFAIL/Lynch years, Hendry has looked like nothing short of a godsend. Of course not every move has been golden but just the fact that he stole guys like Ramirez and Lee assures that he’ll be mentioned among the best GM’s in Cubs history.
I would love to see him continue indefinitely but, sad to say, since most new ownership groups want to bring in their own people, I think his future with the Cubs is going to be tied directly to how things shake out the rest of this season.

by bluekoolaide on Jun 23, 2008 10:25 PM CDT   0 recs

He's ok...

better than most probably. I still don’t like that he traded 3 or 4 young pitchers for Juan Pierre. But as it turned out, none of those have turned to gold either.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 23, 2008 10:39 PM CDT   0 recs

I just wish he'd go for the jugular a bit more

Hendry generally hits when he needs to. He stole D. Lee and A Ram for nothing. Has established a legit farm system, which produces sufficiently well - starters at SS, C, and 2 SP and 3 RP. Soriano was a critical get - resetting the tone for the club. Lilly’s been worth it; probably even Marquis. Etc.

Nonetheless, I feel he is too enamored with his “diamonds in the rough” when he could instead get studs. Lieber vs. Haren this year, J. Jones vs. whomever, not getting Tejada four years ago, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, he will step up as he did two years ago, but this seems to be more when he has to, rather than as a natural course of action. I like Hendry a lot, but feel he cheaps-out a bit more than I’d like.

by Gunga La Gunga on Jun 23, 2008 10:41 PM CDT   0 recs

thats kinda iffy

we dont know what happens behind closed doors. we hear what they want to tell us. we dont know if hendry went to get a final approval and was rebuffed etc. overall he’s done a magnificent trade. lets remember there are alot of players who like to play on the coast.

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by cubsluver22 on Jun 24, 2008 12:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In the past the Cubs pretty much did everything by commitee

But after MacFail and the pending ownership change, a lot of that responsibility was placed squarely on him. I think the Cubs organization is learning a lot from watching what happens when you leave the baseball decision making to the baseball people (i.e. Jim Hendry and Crane Kenney)

Svelte

by ryanbrixenivy on Jun 24, 2008 8:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendry has done great so far

Plus I love him cause he has a house on my block

by fuku-domenation on Jun 23, 2008 11:12 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm not supersticious...

but I don’t like it when people are already saying that this is our 2nd playoff year in a row. The Cubs can collapse just as easily as the Brewers did last year.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by cubs199235 on Jun 23, 2008 11:21 PM CDT   0 recs

I dunno.

where’s the weak spot?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 24, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Two Words:

Aramis Ramirez.

I voted long extension. No brainer.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 24, 2008 5:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Can't ask for more

than a guy who’s in the hospital making deals on the phone! I think he’s an excellent GM. This is a cut throat business where you live and die by every transaction. This is or was, a tough franchise to turn around. Great job, Jim!

Can't wait for the Cubs in '08!!!

by fuzzycubfan on Jun 24, 2008 7:59 AM CDT   0 recs

but everyone loved it at first

it just died quickly and exponentially

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 24, 2008 9:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My Take on JH

By himself, I don’t think Jim is supremely astute – at least not at the level of GMs who on their own can transform an entire organization. As it is, that kind of uber-GM is pretty rare. He’s more like you and I on the job, where we need to have competent people around us all pulling in the same direction to do the best work we can.

Once Andy MacPhail and Dusty Baker hit the road and McDonough/Kenney and Lou came aboard, things really clicked. Hendry has the full financial backing of the higher-ups who actually seem to have some Cub fan in them to boot. And Lou seems to have convinced him of the merits of OBP as “not making outs so frequently” instead of “walks clog the bases”.

Jim is a hard-worker, extremely diligent, and comes across a people person who is respectful and cordial to the media and fans. Another way he’s like us is that he won’t rest until there’s a championship banner flying over the Friendly Confines.

I think he’ll make some acquisitions for the second half – hopefully a pitcher or two, and hopefully without undercutting the whole farm system or upsetting the balance of the current roster. Who he’s brought in so far this year and last (Soriano, Lilly, Edmonds, DeRosa) have really improved the lineup, and it’s nice to see some of the farm products having a hand in the success as well (Soto, Theriot, Marmol, Gallagher).

We’ll see if JH stays once the new owners arrive. If they give him the support and assistance he needs then it wouldn’t be a bad thing at all!

by CaliCub on Jun 24, 2008 9:46 AM CDT   0 recs

Beyond his respect for media and fans...

... he’s always been good to the players he signs; if it doesn’t work out (a la Maddux) he’ll make a deal for the player, and if players get blocked (Scott Moore a good example) he will try to get him a better situation.

That’s why a lot of players want to come to the Cubs, because they know they have a GM who will do right by them.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 24, 2008 9:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True True

And, as they say, he’s always kept guys he really wants around before they go to market (Zambrano, ARam, Lee).

Do you all think there’s truth to the rep Hendry has of locking into acquiring a particular guy, at the risk of either 1) overlooking better options or 2) the guy going elsewhere and leaving Jim to make a panic deal? An example of #1 would be Juan Pierre instead of Kenny Lofton, and an example of #2 would be hastily signing Jason Marquis when Gil Meche opted for KC. It seems there’s a kernel of truth to this, but as long as he’s willing to cut his losses sooner than not then this tendency isn’t a total detriment.

by CaliCub on Jun 24, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Pierre deal...

... wasn’t instead of Lofton, it was because he didn’t get Furcal and was so focused on getting that “speedy leadoff guy” that Baker wanted.

Frankly, Hendry has made far better deals since Baker was let go.

Gil Meche is a decent pitcher but would have cost more than twice what Marquis did.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 24, 2008 10:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I still remember exactly where I was

when I saw Furcal signed with the Dodgers, it scrolled across the screen and I really was shocked. I thought it was a done deal.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 24, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Brain Fart

I meant Furcal, not Lofton. Thanks for catching that, Al.

by CaliCub on Jun 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

would it have been a decent ROI, tho?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 24, 2008 4:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendry and Baker vs Hendry and Pinella

I think Hendry and Baker weren’t on the same page after 03, I was watching my video of their seminar at the 03 convention and then the 04 convention and 05 convention. The body language was definitely different.

I think Hendry and Pinella are on the same page and probably have a lot of the same ideas as to how to build a winning ballclub.

Also from what I understand not only does he treat players, fans and media with respect he treats agents and other executives with respect and he is very popular with them as well.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 24, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Meche signed for 55 Million over 5 years

You can’t seriously believe Hendry should have matched that offer.
As I understand it he offered BOTH Lilly and Meche 4/40
Lilly took the deal once it was clear the Yankees were not interested in him
I don’t think Meche is nearly as good as Lilly and I can imagine everyone freaking out
over THAT contract. Hey there were people here angry we did not go after Zito
That would have been really fun..

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 24, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

Or Jason Schmidt.

People who criticize Hendry should think about Ned Colletti, who has made perhaps the three worst free-agent signings ever, in the last two years: Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones, and Schmidt. That’s nearly $150 million of worthless players.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 24, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's What's Funny

There are probably some fans that are glad Coletti signed all those guys because “he showed he cared” or “he went after the best names out there like all good GMs should”. I think that’s what a certain Sun-Times columnist whose name ends in “otti” would have liked for the Cubs to do – just sign every big name FA every offseason so the Cubs can be like the Mets and worry only about placating the fan base.

by CaliCub on Jun 24, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ned Coletti is absolutely brutal

He lucked into one of the best minor league systems in baseball that now is in steady decline under his leadership. And he has wasted countless millions on horrendous free agent signings…Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones, Jason Schmidt, Randy Wolf (a one year deal for a rehab year), Nomar Garciaparra.

GET Rich Harden !!! 10 starts, 4-0, 59 IP, 72 Ks, 2.44 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 24, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nomar wasn't a bad signing.

He looked like he was healthy again. And then he got hurt—again.

The rest of those deals are brutal.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 24, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What I Would've Liked

is if Hendry didn’t even sign Marquis after missing out on Meche. But the point is moot now – Marquis is here and hasn’t been too shabby of late.

by CaliCub on Jun 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh, Hendry absolutely...

...should’ve signed Meche for 55 over 5. Meche is most definitely “as good as” Lilly. Hand’s down. – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 1:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

umm...

Would that be the same Gil Meche with the 4.91 ERA and 1.34 WHIP this year? Or the 4.48 career ERA and 1.4 WHIP? Whose won more than 11 games once? With Jason Marquis as one of his most similar pitchers?

No thanks… I’d want no part of that deal for 5/55… He had a career year for the Royals last year, but I doubt he matches that once over the final four years of his contract…

by bobby h on Jun 24, 2008 2:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Meche admittedly...

...started slow, but look at his last five starts. He’s headed back to last year territory. Had the Royals been able to score runs for him last year, he would’ve been in the 20-game range. And when you compare between the ears, Meche is more like Lilly than Marquis. – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Slight correction:...

...7 of Meche’s last 8 starts have resulted in 3 earned runs or less. He’s been doing way better than fine since May. – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

don't get me wrong...

... i don’t think that Meche is a terrible pitcher, but I think a lot of people would have been calling for Hendry’s head had he matched or bettered the 5/55…

Personally, I’d much rather have Lilly at 4/40 or Marquis (shudder) at 3/21 – IIRC on their contract terms without looking it up…

5/55, I think, is too much money/years for someone of Meche’s caliber.

by bobby h on Jun 24, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Meche had a good year last year

but with our without run support he was not winning 20 games and his ERA of
3.63 and 1.30 whip is not the stuff of 5 year 55 million dollar contracts ESPECIALLY
if you want to nurture your own farm talent up to the majors because that is not
a contract you can trade. Marquis contract is a problem and he is uneven at best
Worth noting that Lou as redone the rotation to make sure he does NOT face the
Sox again as unlike some here he really did not think 5 earned runs in 7 innings was so hot and apparently has more trust in Gallagher. Marquis does eat innings and his contract is hardly up there with Zito, Schmidt and others. Meche’s contract
really ties him down.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 24, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

$55 million for Gil Meche?

No thanks. Ted Lilly was a better investment in a # 3 / # 4 type starter. Where Hendry got desperate / screwed up was dishing out a generous back loaded contract to Jason Marquis.

GET Rich Harden !!! 10 starts, 4-0, 59 IP, 72 Ks, 2.44 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 24, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ive had a few words with Hendry a few times

well honestly it was him driving out of the lot and signing autographs and I threw in some Q’s. I think he is great with the fans, always stops for autographs and a few words.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 24, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendry's friendliness

Hendry is a very cordial and friendly person.

I just wish he had a brother to take over the Bears! Someone with same amount of ablity but in football.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 24, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think most of us thought Nomar was a great signing at the time

and would have put us over the top. It wasn’t Hendry’s fault he came up lame. If he could have stayed healthy I think it would have been a much different year.

by Mapmaker on Jun 24, 2008 1:52 PM CDT   0 recs

Hendry is a...

...great GM. Sign the guy for a long extension as soon as possible. Period. – TL

by timlacy on Jun 24, 2008 1:55 PM CDT   0 recs

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