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OT: Mike North Out, But Who's Gonna Be In?

Ladies and Gentlemen, our long municipal nightmare is over: Mike North will no longer be over-nasally polluting our airwaves. In a statement on his own website, North briefly explained the situation:

I am now done at the Score. I met with management this past Friday and since I wouldn't accept the deal they offered; they told me I wasn't allowed to be on the air anymore. I didn't get a chance to say goodbye so here goes...

This morning, Mike Mulligan and Brian Handley were in North's time slot and basically said they would not be taking over North's time slot. Teddy Greenstein has a column about the situation in this morning's Trib, noting this interesting bit:

This was not a flimsy negotiating ploy by management. This was the equivalent of CBS Radio officials tearing up their final offer—the one that hadn't changed since April—into little pieces.

Which seems to contradict what most of the Score personnel seem to be saying. The Sun Times commented on the situation in their usual uninformative fashion. And, in the ultimate act of hypocrisy, Jay the Joke lauds North's exit:

We only can hope that the end of Mike North is the beginning of decency, professionalism and couth in Chicago sports radio. Oh, some desperate shop might hire him, hoping to capitalize on name recognition at the expense of dignity and wobbling ratings, but so what.

Sure, Jay, because you're the guy we all look to as a paragon of "decency, professionalism, and couth." We can only hope your tired, spiteful, blatantly dispassionate and wholly uninformed brand of sports journalism follows North's xenophobia right out the door.

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I was his biggest fan in the early days but he is an embarassment to Chicago radio now.

Maybe we’ll get some sports talk in the slot now.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 25, 2008 7:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't think of a

single person on the Score’s roster that I would listen to in the morning. Whenever I am in the car in the a.m., I end up splitting time between Mike&Mike and everything else.

The Score, by and large, is obnoxious and unlistenable.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 25, 2008 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Which makes me think The Score may try to go out of the house to find someone to fill that slot.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Patrick

They play DP at night but maybe they will have the DP show live from 8-noon.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jun 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

But their schtick is “Chicago Sports,” and throwing on a national show like Patrick’s would seem to be be an ill fit.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given the cost-cutting nationwide

by CBS, this would seem to be the logical option. Book it.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That still doesn't make it the smart choice.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

See my reply that below.

He’s not a good fit for a station that claims to be all local sports.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Patrick...

... is a pompous ass.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

And is boring as hell

To call him milquetoast would be an insult to milquetoast.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Jun 25, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

LSA

Not to go into too much detail, but the company I am with was working with Archie Manning as a spokes person. He was a guest on the Dan Patrick Show right before the Super Bowl, and all Dan wanted to talk about was how Peyton wouldn’t come on the show. Dan was really giving Archie a hard time, even after it became apparent that Archie was comfortable talking about his sons personal like. So of course Patrick’s next question is about Eli and his fiance and whether or not they had an opinion on Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo.

Needless to say it reaffrimed my opinion on Patrick. “Pompous ass” sums it up perfectly.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 25, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's so impressed with himself.

Visit the Score’s website and check out his “headshot” on the personalities page. He’s crouched in a corner, smoking a cigar (a sure sign of pompitude) and wearing more make-up than Wizzo.

SIDEBAR – I, too, enjoy cigars, but would not go out of my way to have publicity photos taken of me with one. Almost as bad as those stupid pics of Mac, Jurko & Harry standing around a hi-top table. D-bags, one and all.

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

-1

My only problem with the Score is that there isn’t a single Cubs’ fan among the hosts. Mike Murphy is a fan only to the extent that MBDNIU is, ready to jump off a cliff at the slightest hint of weakness and only half as smart as they think they are.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 25, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

This true, but putting Abbatacola in there would add a Cub fan voice.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Abbatcola is awesome.

I’ver had the opportunity to hang out with him casually, and he’s a good guy.

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jun 25, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I forgot about Matt. The Score has a bunch of part timers who are really good. Lawrence Holmes and Jesse Rogers too.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 26, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

Jesse Rogers is dumb as a post.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2008 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

When North moved to the morning, he changed his format. In the afternoon it was all sports, but when he came to the AM, it seemed like he was half sports half current events.

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by Fukudometer on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

great to hear

but as you pointed out Gary, who’s in? What are the chances it’ll be someone that isn’t racist and sexist? I would like a fresh name and voice…maybe someone that isn’t already on their lineup…someone from outside. Well, after a long time of not being able to listen to morning sports radio, I’m excited about giving it another shot finally. Mike and Mike is not even an option.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah Mike and Mike has

slowly morphed into a celebration of each man’s life. I think The Score may go outside, especially since their handpicked, in-house choice-Mulligan and Handley-have turned them down. That station definitely needs new blood…or maybe some new old blood: Jiggets? I liked Dan and thought he was pretty good on the radio despite the fact that they saddled him with North.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO.

I used to work for the Bears’ PR dept and ran into Jiggets a few times. He’s a great guy.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing inherently wrong w/ Mike & Mike,

but I don’t care to hear what Peter Gammons thinks of the Yankees every half hour.

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jun 25, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yawn.

I don’t listen to sports talk radio, and he was one of the primary reasons why.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

What started "Guy's Talk radio" with the WSCR management

Has ended as so much human nature does when left unchecked. North was a breath of fresh air when he was trying to become a legitimate host with his regular guy stick.

Then he got beside himself, thinking what he said was really analysis and not just a good show of the “Regular Guy” from the northside streets of Chicago. His head continue to swell with each year….like people really thought what he said meant something.

The 2nd worst part of his stick was if he really had football knowledge…he had gambler’s knowledge…maybe…except every gambler I know owe’s his bookie something….But the worst was his stick that he was an unabashed SOX fan and hated the Cubs although his wife had season tickets….

I moved on from him long before I moved because Buffone who was part of his act around 2000 when he told me he had moved on from Mikey. Buffone remained genuine and understanding it was a nice show but nothing more.

If I were Mike, I would return quickly to opening a string of Dog and Beef stands….and play off the notoriety he still possesses.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jun 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I believe you mean...

...“shtick” not “stick”.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 25, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

His hot dogs sucked too.

:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked The Wise Guys show

when it was North and Buffone. I don’t think sports talk works well when it’s one guy by himself – can’t stand Jim Rome, didn’t like Dan Patrick after Dibble left, couldn’t tolerate North when he was solo.

I wish there was a good local sports show on in the morning drive – maybe Mully and Handley will end up in that spot, but I’ve never had a chance to really listen to them.

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on Jun 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Listen to the link I posted.

Mully and Handley have already turned down the gig.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Noted.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Hanley, but I copied everyone else assuming I was wrong.

This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by HectorVillanueva on Jun 25, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was wrong, and led everyone astray. Mea culpa, mea culpa.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big Score listener either...

...though I will confess to listening to it in the car occasionally, and I try to catch “Hit and Run” on Sunday mornings. Like most of the station’s personalities, North seemed more of a cartoon character, a bloated self-parody, than a bonafied sports analyst. Still, this is interesting news.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 25, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

on hit and run… i always take the long way to the coffee shops on the weekend so i can listen to George and Jesse a little longer… I love when they match up two players and their wives against each other, that is so funny

by lswaidz on Jun 25, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I posted this in a thread yesterday...

but I really think one of the guys on that station who really deserves a shot is Lawrence Holmes. I’ve always enjoyed his shows, he engages the listeners, and he’s pretty damn funny. I’d like to see him at least get some time filling in, if not an actual shot at the show.

by lswaidz on Jun 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

Holmes is pretty great. He can actually carry a show by himself, without all that forced banter between on-air colleagues.

"Give 'im the heater!" -Lou Brown

by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is he on sometimes in the late afternoon/early evening?

If so, I agree – I think I’ve heard his show and found him a refreshing changes from the others.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 25, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes he is

he’ll be on the boers and bernstein show this afternoon. he always talks about old toys, cartoons and comic books which is pretty funny… he used to do the score’s wrestling show a few years ago… that was short lived haha.

by lswaidz on Jun 25, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's him.

He’s good, but he gets a bit ranty every once and a while and forgets his callers.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep an eye on Dan McNeil

From Mac, Jurko, and Harry. He was saying the other day he might be tiring of the afternoon drive and might want to shake his routine up a bit. Could WSCR lure him away with his own show? I don’t know, just speculating here.

"Give 'im the heater!" -Lou Brown

by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

That would be a mistake.

One, he’s a buddy of North’s and would come over with an axe to grind. Two, on his own, he’d be a North clone.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But on the plus side, we could hear all about what Allen Bros. products he grilled over the weekend. :)

"Give 'im the heater!" -Lou Brown

by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

MacNeil has become a mini North.

Just a blowhard . His ego has swelled to such a huge extent that his show is nolonger entertaining. Very little about real sports, just their “expert” opinions on music, sports and old movie comedies. sounds more like 3 know-it-all jerks that people tire of in a bar.

by cubswin on Jun 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't let the door hit you....

I did think he was insightful in his early days but he has been brutal the past few years.

Seriously, the only reason to listen to the Score is during football season when Hub Arkush talks about the Bears and pro football in general. Arkush is great, other than him the Score stinks.

by smitster2008 on Jun 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Arkush

Hub is not even too bad on baseball. He knows his stuff and is a huge Cubs fan. The day the Cubs resigned Ramirez if you remember correctly it looked like he was gone and the Score (not Hub the station) was reporting Aram had told the Cubs to take their last offer and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Hub was doing Bears pregame stuff and went off on the Cubs losing Ramirez and said “Phew” when they broke in to announce Aram had signed.

My dream is to have him start Pro Baseball Weekly and have it be as good as Pro Football Weekly,.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 25, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listen to the score at work...

And last week, North was BRUTAL. The whole time it seemed like he was ranting on Teddy Greenstein, and completely ignoring anything to do with Chicago Sports. Back in the Wise Guys days, I like North and Buffone, but now I agree that North really had fallen off. The article said something about Laurence Holmes and Matt Abbatacola taking over the vacated slot, and I’d be all for that.

by sackings108 on Jun 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd be for Holmes and Abbatacola, too.

But it’s all a crapshoot now, since Mully and Hanley have turned down the gig.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've met Holmes a number of times

last time I saw him at the pizza place he goes on South Shore, I said “when are they going to give you your own daily show?” He replied, “it shouldn’t be too long now.” I guess this might be what he was talking about. Give it Holmes.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holmes is a terrible idea.

if you think north liked to hear himself talk, just listen once to holmes. he ignores callers and just seems to rattle on and on until you have to turn the station.
when the score had north with jig’s was the best sports radio show ever.
but leave it to cbs to cut cost.
they will go on the cheap, put in holmes and watch the ratings go further in the toilet.
i predict, unless they go for new talent, the score will be gone in less than 3 years.

wheatfield mike down here in god's country

by wheatfield mike on Jun 25, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

I love them when they fill in, They really know their stuff on all sports.

And Matt is a huge Cubs fan.

Go Cubs

by puckishcubsfan on Jun 25, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Chet Coppock?

Hub Arkush? Norm Van Lear?

Formerly NO100

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather be kicked in the groin each morning

than listen to Coppock’s chicanery.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it wouldn't be a kick...

...but I could give Cesar Izturis a call.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um...

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don Imus and Al Sharpton?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 25, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminding you all..

Talk radio, sports or otherwise - is show biz. Take nothing a host says seriously. And, as I posted earlier - CBS is cutting costs nationwide in owned and operated TV and radio. (Some anchors at CBS-2 were cut a few weeks ago.) Dan Patrick - if he is carried on delay on the Score - is the logical option.

I’m sure somebody here will notify this blog if that happens, but I think you can book this move. Localism be damned. $$$$ saved is what’s important in this fading economy.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

They also don't lose money by promoting from within

i.e. Holmes, Abbattacola, Goff, etc.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, yes - they do.

Those individuals would still want a salary. Not to the extent of the amount cash North took in - but usually, broadcast mangement - when they can eliminate a salary - whatever level it is - they will do it. (My last gig, a perfect example) Dan Patrick costs CBS Radio nothing, except a few commercial positions.

It’s a no-brainer. The last Arbitron trend, released for the Chicago market this week shows the stations nearly in a tie for the overall audience.

Bottom line—right now in the broadcast industry, it’s SAVE AT ALL COST.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 25, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're already being paid,

and their raises, should they get one, would be minimal compared to what Patrick would want if his show, inexplicably, took off.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are missing my point.

“raises” are a concept that is foreign to radio unless you are under a contract that calls for them.

If Patrick is run on a delay in Chicago, it’s a golden opportunity to move it to a good time slot.
Patrick’s syndicator might even PAY CBS to run the show in real time.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 25, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, then, since

Holmes, Abbatacola, and Goff are already under contract to the Score (and, by extension, to CBS), they won’t cost any extra to shift them from their regular gigs into the morning slot. Easy as pie.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again --

I assert Patrick’s syndicator would PAY CBS Radio to put that show in real time, in the Chicago market. These type of deals happen all the time.

Patrick is a bigger name than those people you have mentioned. (I Have never heard them)

My earlier post was not complete—WSCR and ESPN/Chicago are just about in a tie, according to the Arbitron trend (ratings) released this week.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 26, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

This sort of reminds me of the CTA

Years back, they decided to cut service in order to make up thier deficit. Of course, this only led to less people using thier service, so they cut service again, and again, and again.

I read somewhere that radio listenership is down 14% over the past decade. Cutting services is only going to add to that decline.

Formerly NO100

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Only, in this case, they cut a disservice.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I guess Lee Hacksaw Hamilton isn’t so bad after all!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

There's another frequency

that has NO, NONE, NADA ratings. Too bad. Hacksaw and the kids that run the at shop are doing a good job. (1360AM/SD)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 25, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, she'll become a cougar.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's got a while to go....

Do you know something I don’t? : )

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 25, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not exactly....

Let’s just say I know the type and leave it at that.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 25, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beware...

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 25, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

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