"L" flag
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 27, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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PrintAccording to Bruce Miles in today's Daily Herald, the Cubs are considering no longer flying the "L" flag to notify the El passengers and neighborhood if the Cubs lost. The assumption would be that no "W" flag means a loss. (What if it rains?)
I think this is goofy. To me, getting rid of just the "L" flag makes the "W" flag an unneeded gimmick.Should they have a "Nice try" or "Played hard" flag? I realize that I might not be in the majority, though, and want to know what others think.
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I didn't know there WAS an L flag.
honestly.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
same here
i’ve never seen them raise a flag after a loss… I’ve been to maybe 25 games in my life and I’ve never seen anything but the “W” flag go up… do they wait a while after the game to raise the “L” flag? We’ve stuck around wrigleyville for 3 or 4 hours after a game and I don’t ever remember seeing it
Go visit the Evil BCB sometime.
They actually follow Cubs games and fly the L flag when the Cubs lose. Seriously. For this reason alone, I wouldn’t mind seeing Wrigley Field do away with it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Um Daver
I prefer to refer to them as the “totally weak assed, bitch and moan, we ban people for thinking otherwise her BCB”.
Don’t know who you are referring to!
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 27, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
To quote Denis Leary:
Life sucks. Get a f—king helmet. Fly the “L” flag, people.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
A-bloody-men.
Flying the “L” not only gives you motivation for tomorrow, it makes flying the “W” feel that much better.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Where is the
Get rid of it, and just fly the W flag? on the poll?
Personally I could care less about the L flag, but I think the W flag is a neat little gimmick.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
Option 4
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Good thing I thought ahead!
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 27, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
well done!
Yeah, I realize this isn’t a burning issue; just curious what people think.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I know
my sarcasm wasn’t directed at you in any way. More the fact that there was a discussion about it publically.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 27, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
If they do stop flying the "L" flag...just fly the W flag upside down.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 27, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions
Or maybe only fly the "M" flag after games like yesterday's.
The ‘M’ standing for “massacre,” of course.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
"Maybe tomorrow."
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
"Mike Fontenot Couldn't be bothered to cover 2nd Base"
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Didn’t see any comments about that in the mainstream media, but I sure as hell noticed from section 224.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 27, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
According to Bob Brenly, it was Edmonds' fault.
Apparently, Bob thinks we’re playing 16” softball.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Edmonds isn't as scrappy
It did seem like Jimbo took a long time to get the ball in, though. I was surprised when Mr. Toasted Sub (Quiroz; close enough) took third—apparently so was Edmonds.
Doesn’t excuse the Hamster, though. I had to pay $36 to watch the game. He had a better seat and he got paid to watch.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 27, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
"Marquis pitched"
"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield
by DrGalazkiewicz on Jun 27, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I could have picked
any of the first three options. but I chose numner three because I used to “use” that flag for information in the old days, and I’m sure there’s plenty of people who can’t waste their time on the Internet and cell phones all day due to work but still are big Cub fans who want to know the result on the way home.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
Agreed
Its a nice touch to keep the everyday citizen informed about the results of games. Its simple yet effective. How many times have you been downtown or in another part of the City with a Cubs cap on after a game, and someone asks what the result was? Its happened to me plenty of times, I think its a cool gesture that keeps even very casual fans connected to a team that they may rarely (if ever) see play in person.
that happens to me all the time
even out here in vegas
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 25-13 (.658)
Edmonds with Cubs: .305 / .376 / .622
Question: do they fly the flags for away games as well?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I’ve always wondered that.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No, they don't.
Just for home games.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
+1
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 28, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I like traditions....
Its the unique traditions that make every ball club and their fans unique from other clubs and fans. Traditions also tie us into the history of a ballclub if we chose to find out why its done. If it were to disappear, yeah we’d still be the Cubs, but a little bit of who we are would disappear with it. Its unique to the Cubs. So, lets keep it for its part of our history and makes us unique. If it does disappear I’d live with, but I hope it doesn’t.
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
+1
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 28, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I started my own Tradition
My office has a large picture window that over looks the floor below. I have been putting up a “W” or an “L” for the past several years. It shows my Bleeding Blue feelings. I have since added ’”Flags” for Santo, Banks, Williams, and Sandberg.
I love explaining the history of the W and L flags to those who have no idea.
Have they decided
to do it for solely Jenkins, or both he and Maddux?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as I'm Concerned
It should be Jenkins only. Sorry I love Maddux, but 31 will always be Jenkins for me, plus he went into the Hall as a Cub. Maddux will be a Brave.
Uniforms #'s Retired for 2 Players
The Yankees have retired #8 for both Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra. The Expos/Nationals have retired #10 for both Rusty Staub and Andre Dawson. Staub only played 3.5 seasons for Montreal. I don’t get that. Finally, the Cardinals have retired #42 for Bruce Sutter and Jackie Robinson. All MLB teams have retired #42 for Robinson. Of course, Robinson only played for the Dodgers.
Sutter only pitched four seasons for the Cardinals. Well, nobody else for St. Louis was going to wear #42 again anyway, so why not retire it for Sutter? I don’t believe the Cubs are considering retiring #42 for Sutter. I don’t think they should, anyway. I believe someone should have to play at least 8 seasons with a club before having a uniform number retired.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
Staub's # deserved retirement...
...besides being the Expos’ only decent player in their first three years, he was “Le Grand Rouge!” What more do ya want? :-)
"Eighty-five percent of the world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here." - Lee Elia, 1983
"The only thing that bothers me is that I would never want to destroy the love and what the fans of Chicago are to the Chicago Cubs. I mean, God knows. If there's one pure thing in baseball, it is the fans of Chicago." - Lee Elia, 2008
by CaughtInTheVines on Jun 27, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No, he was "Le Grand Orange".
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Mais oui!
Tu as raison, monsieur – naturellement!
"Eighty-five percent of the world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here." - Lee Elia, 1983
"The only thing that bothers me is that I would never want to destroy the love and what the fans of Chicago are to the Chicago Cubs. I mean, God knows. If there's one pure thing in baseball, it is the fans of Chicago." - Lee Elia, 2008
by CaughtInTheVines on Jun 27, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
the people who said to dump the L are probably the same people who believe in participation trophies and what not
we can’t hurt anyone’s feelings…..
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I love it.
My daughter is a figure skater and these “participation” awards are constantly being handed out at competitions. Makes me sick, no matter how well or poorly my kid performs.
What happens when youngsters grow up and discover – perhaps too late – that life is ENTIRELY about winning and losing.
Anyway, the “L” must stay. It’s a tradition that predates the idiots who are thinking of quashing it. And I’m sorry, but Rod Beck, no disrespect, had far greater problems, obviously, than the “bad Karma” from the blue flag.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
For those of you who didn't know there was one.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 27, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
That picture almost fooled me...
I was gonna say how did the A’s score “N” in the firstbut Sanfran scored 1 in the second. lol. It says night game…
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
or probably "nite" game
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
LOL @ "Nite Game"
That’s another one of those Wrigley traditions! Good one.
"Eighty-five percent of the world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here." - Lee Elia, 1983
"The only thing that bothers me is that I would never want to destroy the love and what the fans of Chicago are to the Chicago Cubs. I mean, God knows. If there's one pure thing in baseball, it is the fans of Chicago." - Lee Elia, 2008
by CaughtInTheVines on Jun 27, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Good grief
I think that without the L flag, the significance of the W flag is lessened.
I agree with the poster who wrote that this is another bit of W/L PC. Lets not acknowlege failure because nobody likes a loser. And who wants to be a loser when we can all be winners! YAY!
Hopefully, the Cubs will drop this idea and send the marketing genius who came up with it back to his hobbit hole in season ticket renewals.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
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