Maybe Gallagher or Hill, and they haven’t gotten much out of David Delucci or Franklin Gutierrez so probably Felix Pie, and then other one to ice the cake like Colvin, Veal, or Patterson.

N/T

1. Felix Pie (sigh)
2. Donald Veal
3. Jeff Samardzija
4. Tyler Colvin
5. Sean Marshall
6. Micah Hoffpauer
7. Matt Murton

No way can they have Gallagher.

Who are you to attempt to interject common sense into mid-season trade banter? Four of our top six prospects for CC? Poppycock! They will take Andres Torres, Jake Fox and Eric Patterson, because that was the trade I worked out on my video game.

Please refrain from being realistic in your discussions of future trades. In addition, we ask that you please continue to use the standard Cubs fan offer of “Murton, Marshall and a package of prospects.”

Thanks

he looks like a different hitter than he was in april. maybe he’s trying to hit more HRs and pulling the ball when they pitch away

A pitcher, a corner IF and a corner OF – the last two with power potential. One of those three should already be a major leaguer, the other two not that far behind. Anyone trading for CC obviously needs pitching, ergo they’re probably not going to have a good major league pitcher to give up – at least not a starter.

Is he going to get all that? Probably not, but I think that’s his going-in position. A lot depends on how many teams are seriously interested in CC. People always scoff at the dollar value expectations of selling stuff on eBay, but remember in an auction format, all you need are two idiots…

And no, I don’t think Hendry is an idiot; so even if Shapiro inquires about Soto or Marmol, which I’m sure he would, Hendry will politely say thanks but no thanks. And Shapiro knows this. So they’d probably both have a chuckle and then talk about the weather or something.

Also remember that Shapiro has a BATNA – that’s a fancy business term I learned from taking a Negotiations course. Stands for “Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement”. Basically it’s your fallback plan – what are you going to do if you have to get up and walk away from the deal. In this case, Shapiro has the two high draft picks and fan goodwill. So if you’re a GM trying to get CC, not only do you have to come up with something better than the other teams, you also have to convince Shapiro that what you’re offering is better than two high draft picks and possibly alienating his team’s fan base.

It would probably take the following:

Marmol, Veal, Pie, Patterson.

And you know what, I would think about it. As much as I love Marmol (and I do), I would seriously consider it.

Meaning he won’t be part of any deal.

for one because he’s cheaper and secondly because he’s had success at the MLs. It’s just as likely with Samardzija as with Hill that he won’t give you anything in MLB.

If the Indians look at Hill and say, “We can do with him what we did with Cliff Lee,” then there’s probably not a better trade package out there than one that includes Hill and Gallagher. If I recall correctly, CC is not the only Indian pitcher that won’t be in their rotation next year, so getting 2 ML ready(ish) pitchers could be very appealing to them. On the other hand, if they look at Hill and say, “No thanks,” well, it’s going to be more difficult.

That’s the thing about trades – we have no idea how Shapiro values our players. We aren’t even sure how Jim Hendry values our players. We don’t know if Gallagher, Veal, or Hill are on a “Will Not Trade List.” But it’s still fun to speculate.

There may be something he’s working on for a pitcher whose name hasn’t even come up yet. The Cubs don’t really need a 1 or 2 starter IMO (with Z and Demp pitching as they have been), but a steady 3 who who doesn’t walk the ballpark might benefit greatly from the Cubs’ offense.

and I mentioned this before, but I think it got lost…

I’d trade Lilly.

for marquis. he’s too inconsistent

Would be something like Pie, Gallagher, and somebody like Ceda.

Obviously any trades we come up with are purely speculative. It would be fun to do a pool on who we trade for and what we give up.

Other teams ( notably the Red Sox & Yankees) not offering better players which
I STRONGLY believe they can if the choose to.

Hank Borowy. Maybe the Yankees will just sell him to us?

...a lot of prayers, millions of dollars, a couple of decent prospects, and a box of ding dongs. Hold it, maybe that last one was for John Kruk?

Meaning it is waste of time to think about CC Sabathia. Not going to happen, at least not so far at the Cubs are concerned.

but what about the idea of getting Oswalt?