Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. White Sox, Sunday 6/29, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 29, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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7th?
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions
Just make sure you keep your double posts to yourself in this thread...
lol
by LT on Jun 29, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
how many did I have in the last one?
” looking confused”
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I only saw it once... but everytime i punched "Z" i went back to it..
by LT on Jun 29, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
umm Im sorry I guess
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't happen to me
they’re just crazy. you’re fine madison. :-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
They're not crazy
It happened to me, and I’m perfectly sa…
Well, never mind that, but it did happen to me
why can the cardinals win
regardless of who they have out there, and we can’t win when a few players are injured.
That's a great question
I wish I knew the answer
by bluekoolaide on Jun 29, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a rough patch; nothing more
all teams have them. STL will too
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully we can give them a rough patch
next week when we play them…
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
where does this uncanny ability come from? Can we buy it somewhere?
by bluekoolaide on Jun 29, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a chance. He's just a good hitter.
He had a solid college and minor league career, and now it’s paying off.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
well ankiel and glaus are actually two people who were caught
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Proving what about Carlos Quentin?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
we are talking about the cardinals right?
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Gah.
Wrong thread. Damn beer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You mean like that 2-4 record they posted
against the Royals this season? Or losing two out of three to the Tigers?
The Cardinals have won one more game than the Cubs in this stretch. One.
Do some research before you post, please.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the twins and A's both traded their aces in the offseason....
and both are doing better with them. Go figure!
Hey, it's a new century!
can we please just end interleague play NOW
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
+1
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
in about an inning
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
How many
double plays have we hit into in the last 10 games?
I’d guess aroudn 18
by Dome is my home-ay on Jun 29, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
Alright..
I’ve seen enough tonight.. Any chance we probably didn’t have is now gone. I’m crashing. Night all. We’ll just have to start a win streak tomorrow
"Go Cubs Go"
I agree. IMO the least fun one of the season
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
true. I was cleaning that afternoon
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
ascanio is good
this team just hits homers.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
No, he was looking decent enough to leave in.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
fair enough
was questioning the LHP/RHP thing there, but if the kid was looking good thru first 2 outs, don’t have problem with it
in a week were they should have swept both Baltimore and the White Sox
they will only win one….pathetic..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Who was saying that?
I said if the Cubs went 3-3 against the Sox this season, I’d be ecstatic. (Of course, you always want more after you sweep, but …)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not asking you
but they should have swept baltimore with those matchups and hell at least won ONE in this series..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Well, I'm answering you
The Cubs probably should have won one more game against Baltimore and one of the three vs. the White Sox. Anybody who was saying they should have swept both series is crazy.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
well 4-2 would have been logical
maybe 6-0 was a stretch, but to go 1-5 against the Orioles and White Sox?
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
no name calling..... Al will otherwise but you both in a time out :)
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't calling him a name
But 6-0 against these teams is crazy. 3-3 would have been more realistic.
But even the Cardinals had, what, two eight-game losing streaks when they won the World Series? Enough.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely correct
They might be one of the biggest surprises in baseball this season.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The A's are up there too
but yeah the O’s are very surprising.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think a lot of people thought TB would be better
but not quite this good.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually saw them play LAA in Tampa this year
They’re good, and could be for a few years. I like them. Just not when they’re playing the Cubs.
Their pitching staff is unreal
And they’ve got some nice young position players, too. I like ‘em.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
they're a great defensive team
and very athletic. they’re going to be good for a while.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
this year in baseball is crazy
Teams like the Indians, Mariners, Tigers, and Yankees underachieving, while teams such as the Orioles, Cardinals, Marlins, and Twins overachieve..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Don't forget the Mets
Underachievers as well.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The Royals and Twins have the best record during interleague play
I couldnt believe that
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I might believe the Twins
KC? No way.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty close
:sigh: predictable.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Carlos Quentin is just plain good.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'm drunk. And I really like Carlos Quentin.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
+1
on being drunk. good game for it.
argh
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
another craptastic job by the bullpen
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I didn't catch the first couple innings
what happened with Lou getting kicked out?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
He argued ball/strike calls in the 2nd.
And he had damn good reason. The home plate ump tonight made yesterday’s ump look fabulous.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, he started out, and turned around....
and, as he turned around to go back to the dugout, the ump ran him out. It like the ump really didn’t know wtf he was doing.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It was actually a full checked swing
...if you know what I mean. Lou had every right to argue as it was strike 3.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Urgh
thats bad. i didn’t think we’d be going there.
yay for broken tv!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, if memory serves me
Cubs lost the game that Lou got ejected from last year, then reeled off the best record in baseball for a while
It doesn’t always work right away
That's true
For some reason I thought they won last year’s tirade game.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I was hoping we could face the best bullpen EVER, EVER
down only two runs. Oh well…
Let’s get this inning over with. :-(
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Too bad the Sox bullpen
doesn’t even have the lowest ERA in baseball THIS YEAR
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Not a knock at you LAcarl
toward the guy who said that.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
He just uses his uncanny ability
to pull crap out of his ass
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Booo...this slump...cause that is what this is
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
I'm not even watching OR listening to this game...
...and I’m glad…I’m pissed off enough following online….WTF?
Finally
I was going to say wake me when the Cubs pitch inside instead of letting these mashers hang out over the plate all series and swing from their heals. Of course it wasn’t good enough but someone, Swisher, anyone, needed one in the ribs with some hair on it.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.
seriously kid just pitch a damn strike
you already blown any chance for us in this game
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Avoid all local media! The sky will be declared officially falling...
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
+1
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Now, why didn't they let us hear the Cubs fans sing last week?
Assholes.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
meh its ok...
white sox won a WS in 05 and nobody cares, so no harm done
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
I like Wuertz
but I don’t know why anyone swings at his stuff… its too low for a strike, always.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
I just wish he didn't take 30 seconds
between every pitch. It is painful to watch a game when he comes in.
I don’t know how the defense stays awake when he is in.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Has anyone seen the 2008 Cubs
Who replaced them with the early 90’s
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
That won't happen. The best closer of all time is coming in.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Jun 29, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And then drown his sorrows in 20 double bacon cheeseburgers
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
The story of this series....
is the Cubs’ inability to hit with men in scoring position. Like yesterday, this game was very winnable.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
Yes, that is quite true.
Even though some of the chances were with 2 out, need to cash in sometimes.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Too true.
A complete lack of timely hitting in this series. But, to give some props to the Sox, Dye and Crede have made some great defensive plays to keep the Cubs from scoring.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yes, they have.
The Sox have hit the hell out of the ball.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Okay. Stranger things can happen
Leads this large have been blow. I know, b/c the Cubs have blown them ;)
God help us, Viva Viagara.
Have to hear the Sox fans sing, and now this!
Oh, the agony!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
with lou being kicked out does he give a post game or nto?
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He can.
Who knows if he will.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It'd be cool if he said something that got him fined.
It would be accurate (ie, the umps sucked donkey scrotum, as mentioned by someone earlier tongiht).
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Al will fine me for saying that.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I'll chip in just because it's kinda funny
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll appeal. It'll drag on all season, and never be resolved,
kinda like Matt Kemp and Coco Crisp’s suspensions.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Marshall pitched well
at least we did not waste Zambrano – on this 1 output effort.
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
twss
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
soto was down 0-2 and walked
have faith
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
faith
i’m a cub fan …and still watching. faith is what i am all about.
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
by Cub Fan Mike on Jun 29, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know what kind of streak DeRosa's in?
It seems he hasn’t been hitting well lately, but I’ll get attacked if I make an uneducated, false claim.
He got a crucial RBI hit yesterday.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
hitting .256 this month, 20 hits, 17 singles and 3 HRs
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Like I said, just seemed like...
he’s been struggling lately. I wasn’t able to watch yesterday, but I was wrong nevertheless.
Maybe it's Mike North.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
been watching him all nite
he thinks it is the WS
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
by Cub Fan Mike on Jun 29, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
that guy's been pissing me off too
looks like tourettes maybe..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
we're trying...!
let’s go boys, ride this momentum into San Fran, if nothin else.
by serbianking33 on Jun 29, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
YES!!!!!! DeRO!!!!!!
My Hero!!! Jimmy, it’s all you!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
this would be so much more awesome if we were still down 2
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
J-Ed!!
Lets go, buddy!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
DAMMIT!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
bullshit call
CUBS WIN CUBS WIN CUBS WIN
by GarlicFryCubFan on Jun 29, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
if i see one more DP
I’m going to puke.
by Dome is my home-ay on Jun 29, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
I repeat....
as I said earlier tonight, I learned in Little League to let a line drive get through the infield.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
2nd time this week for Derosa.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Great IF defense on the south side, for sure.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
If the 1B ump was a horse,
they would shoot him.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
just horrible play by this team this weekend
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
this is not the same team we saw last weekend play..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
I sadly agree
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs have hit some balls this series that were well hit.....
but right at someone.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
The sun shines on a dog's ass soemtimes.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yep. Geo had one of those yesterday.
I’m okay, we’re still walking, still hitting. Just frustrating not to have anything drop.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Derosa must have been hanging out with Cedeno
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Of course, you mean Theriot, as he, not Cedeno,
was the only other runner to be doubled off base tonight.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Might be th e first time I've ever said this
but I can’t wait for this weekend to be over.
This stupid series will be done and we can actually play a game without “the world is ending” crapola, maybe.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
Miller
He keeps saying they are chanting sweep – and i don’t hear a thing
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
what a joke, boys
get em tomorrow
"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama
Yep thank God for same favors
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's go get them in San Fran.
sigh
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Tam[a Bay....
...now best in Major Leagues.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
The good news...
is that we’ll have a full 24 hours to stew over this loss. At least we’re finally going back to the National League.
its okay, you're forgiven
it was nice to see you again! :-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
hey, how's life on the left coast?
what’s the gig, anyway? I’ve been out of touch…
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
3-3 in the season series
About what I thought, but not how I though. Tip your caps. The White Sox are pretty darned good.
But so are the Cubs.
The second half of this season is gonna be a lot of fun, methinks.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yep
We need to get our players back, hope nobody else get hurts…and please get back to playing fundamental baseball…no more gaffes in the outfield, no more base running blunders, right players cover the bag… etc…
A lot of people wonder why the Cardinals are winning….they are getting good enough pitching and the catch the ball and they run the bases well… Going to win more than you lose when you play like that.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Give credit to...
White Sox defense and bullpen-one of the best in baseball. Cubs swept last weekend. Nothing to be ashamed about.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
On the positive side, perhaps this will scare ESPN off for a while
(fingers crossed)
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
I'd have sure like to see John celebrate the Cubs' sweep of the Sox
as much as he celebrated the Sox’ sweep of the Cubs.
What a tool.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
We'll see him again soon....
and often.
Good night all. Hang in there.
We’ll be in the playoffs. The White Sux will have to struggle to get there. The Twins and Tigers are coming after them.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Night everyone!
Thank god this series is over… i’ve never seen 6 games get dragged out for so long.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
2006 was the last time I think
I remember they went through a stint in May where they didn’t score a single run for a couple of games!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
i meant the hype
not just our play during the series… just the hype of “who ya got”. its just too much.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Giants scored 11 today,
so maybe they left their bats in Oakland. Let’s try to feast on them and get healthy before we head to St Louis for the weekend. We need no less than 3 of 4 in the Bay Area.
Go Cubs!!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
John Miller
was so excited about this sweep. he’s gotta hate the cubs
Favorite Game - 'The Sandberg game" June 23, 1984
probably true
I think as biased fans, we notice more when things are against us or seem to be.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Sox played one hell of a series.
Hast tip tot hem. Let’s hope the Cubs can get the offense going again. Let’s go beat the Giants so Jon Miller will shut his fat mouth. Good night, all.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Jon Miller's....
..mispronunciations are nothing compared to Harry Carey, I like Miller.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
good great wonderful
they cardinals won yet again today. Seriously what is LaRussa GIVING to those players!!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
He's not giving them anything.....
He’s got a young HUNGRY bunch….........though wwhy didn’t Wellenmeyer ever pitch like that 4 the Cubs???
The best defense is a good offense
And they catch the ball
and They have a great pitching coach…
I did mention this other day and have never spent anytime looking into it…but it seems that Cardinals have caught the back end of a team’s rotation a bunch of times. When your current pitching staff consists of a bunch of 3,4,5 guys it makes it easier to win when you are facing like talent.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it will be Marquis not Dempster...
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
They also played the Royals
who, despite their recent streak, aren’t very good. And they beat the Cardinals four out of six.
Really, during this entire bad stretch, the Cubs have lost only one game to the Cards.
Still, the Cards have a great organization, much as I hate to admit it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh come on....
You don’t hate to admit it…......you DESPISE to admit it…..it maks your blood boil…and it really sucks….......
The best defense is a good offense
Agreed.
I feel that Jim Hendry is a good GM, in that he is aggressive and is always looking for moves to improve the major league club. That said, when you look around MLB, you see teams like Boston that have seemingly endless depth in the minors, or teams like Cincy or San Diego that are bringing up their ”#1 prospect” to the majors. The Cubs really don’t have a prospect in the organization that would receive that kind of fanfare at this point in time.
by WartburgCub on Jun 29, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't tink this is a great organization
Its just a bunch of overachieving players. Schumaker, Ludwick, LaRue (wtf?), and Miles are players that I GUARANTEE you thought these players wouldn’t be doing as good. Same goes with Wellemeyer, Looper, and co.
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
and there number 1 starter is Kyle freaking Lohse!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
I was trying to be nice
but yeah, you’re right. I’d rather be in a gay porno film (not that there ’s anything wrong with that) than be a Cardinals fan.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
At least you would be well paid...according to HBO and Porn 101
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I live there and it is all rainbows, puppy dogs, and ice cream on the radio sports dial. I barf on my way into work everyday.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel so bad 4 you.....
:)....
Their spring training ground is bout 4 miles down the road from me…....nuff said….I feel your pain….
The best defense is a good offense
There's nothing better than sports talk radio in Chicago.....
During football season…...especially after the Bears just had a bad game (no dis here….I’m a huge Bear fan)....nothing like that and a cup of coffee to get ya goin on an earlly November morning…...
The best defense is a good offense
Wait until you hear the radio tomorrow.
The Sox fans will be vying for WS ticket giveaways and the Cub fans will be trading the whole team for CC Sabathia.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Perspective, sadly, is lacking
on WSCR and on WMVP.
If this series had ended 3-3 and each team won once at the other’s park, would the reactions be that extreme, I wonder?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I buy what your saying....
But there is also something to be said about momentum….
The best defense is a good offense
Momentum?
Momentum is what makes your heels come up off the ground when you try to pee with a “Harden.” It has nothing to do with this recent Cubs-Sox series.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Which you know nothing about.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps you do.
You haven’t set the bar very high for yourself, though. I’m pretty much a baseball novice.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That's true -- you never found any World Series rings
;-)
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Sadly, no, I haven't.
I should probably stop looking for them at the bottom of beer bottles.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
*TRUCE*
please keep posting…
I picked ur screen name out of a bunch of inane comments (I make them too) earlier…...
My memories of Varsho is he was another clown on a late 70’s early 80’s Cub team with no aspiration….(not player w/ no aspiration…team w/ no aspiration)......
I’m sick and tired of the losing….and wish more fanss felt like I do.
The best defense is a good offense
Varsho played for the Cubs
from 1988-1990. He was supposed to be the next 3B guy, but never panned out. He’s probably most memorable for having a 4-4 or 5-5 performance against the Cubs as a member of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember him as a pretty decent pinch-hitter
and being from WI, of course!
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
of course, the memory could be playing tricks on me
re: his pinch hitting record
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You had a point?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
I think we're all sick of it, kc
But we’ve got to be a bit realistic about the ebbs and flows of a season, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Can’t let it bug you too much. We should vent while it is happening - preferably rationally - and move on to the next game after the current one is over.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hitting, pitching and belief.
With the first two weighted about a zillion times more than the third.
The Cards have won seven and lost nine their last sixteen games. Good Lord, what IS their secret? Oh, right, they aren’t very good.
The American League just got done destroying the National League in inter-league play. It’ll be good for the Cubs to get back to playing a kinder gentler style of ball.
You can prepare all you want......
How well do the million$aires listen?
The best defense is a good offense
Pretty Loud 'n Clear
if ya asked me! Scouting would sure seem to explain why the Cards’ defense is nearly always positioned perfectly, why their pitchers can get the key outs, and why their offense is 2nd in the league in OBP.
All that said, I can’t stand ‘em. Their fan base, announcers, and manager are all obnoxious and smug.
Eat More Katsui
That is probably more than 1/2 right....
BUT….it’s always easier to get eager younger lower contract people to listen than…..
My guess is some of the “big guns” comppletely ignore scouting reports and get themselves mired in avoidable slumps…...
The best defense is a good offense
Point Well Taken
Luckily for their sakes, Pujols hasn’t copped an attitude on LaRussa.
Eat More Katsui
I hope the cubs go deep in october because
1) We will all be happy !!!
2) All of the A holes like Miller in the Media will have nothing to say
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
Zito vs. Lilly tomorrow night
Lilly’s a fly-ball pitcher in a park that’s hard to hit HRs in, and Zito is…well, less than stellar. Hopefully, it’ll start us off to a successful week.
Let's see here
June 29, 2007
CUBS RECORD: 39-39
June 29, 2008
CUBS RECORD: 49-32
There. Now I feel better.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
49-33 now..I believe
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jun 29, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct. Just seeing if everyone was paying attention out there. :)
Still cheers me up though.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
16 over right now
Need 3 – 4 in SF then the fun with the Cards begins !!!
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
No, the Cubs had a bad series,
while the Sox had a great series, but it’s good to see a Sox fan go to the trouble of registering just to post this.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
And Joe Carter was a better broadcaster!
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
And Dave Otto!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God, was Fassero and awful pitcher, but I always had a smile when he came out when Carter was in the booth!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I will once again post a comment on pitching coaches...
It seems that the White Sox changed their approach to our hitters. Did we change our approach to theirs? I continue to hope that the Cubs will replace Larry Rothschild and either get Greg Maddux (if he retires this year) or get someone else.
I really think we have a sub-par link as this is the only guy left from the Dusty era (I know he worked for Lou before!). It just seems to me that the Sox changed how they pitched to us and their batters really had a good approach to our pitchers this week. It seemed that their batters knew what to expect. Maybe that has something to do with young Geo calling games behind the plate. But again, Larry needs to help him change his pattern of pitch calling (notice how Gallagher ALWAYS has trouble the second time through the order).
I love this Cub team, but I always feel like we don’t get the most out of our pitching.
But either way, let’s wipe this weekend off our faces and have a good trip to San Francisco.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Well, what a difference a week makes...
...we dismantled the Sox last week, 22 – 11, and were dismantled this week, 21 – 9. We looked downtrodden, sluggish, and in dire need of a few of Soriano’s lead-off home runs or Zambrano’s broken bats to jump start things. Last time Alfonso was hurt, we were fine, but this time it was clear we needed our starters back, and our bench players coming off the bench. I was really disappointed by our lack of patience; earlier today I posted that we were waiting for Buerhle to pitch to us, rather than waiting for the right pitch to drive. Where did our patience go? Out the window this weekend.
This might be a good jolt of reality – Lou got fired up, everyone looked like crap this weekend…maybe a good regrouping on the plane or organization of thoughts will do us good.
The Giants are a bad, bad team, and they showed it this month. They are six games back in the worst division in baseball, and this month: after losing 2/3 to the Mets, they swept 4 games from the Nationals, lost 2/3 from a bad Colorado team, lost 4/6 from Oakland, lost 2/3 from the Tigers, lost 2/3 from a bad Royals team, and took 2/3 from a bad Cleveland team. That’s 13-13 this month, granted, but only Oakland is above .500, and nearly a quarter of wins came from the Nationals, the second worst team in baseball.
Our probables are as follows:
Lilly vs Zito – a new arm slot for Zito has shown improvements, but he’s 0-7 with a 7+ ERA at home
Marquis vs Cain – a dangerous pitcher and dangerous game
Dempster vs Correla – who’s sporting nearly a 5 ERA, we can take this game
Gallagher vs Lincecum – the ace of the staff @ 9-1 with a sub 2.5 ERA
I see two low scoring games in 1 & 3, a rough, high scoring victory in game 2, and a great pitching duel in the finale. Let’s take 3/4 from these guys, and get ramped up for a fantastic showdown with the Cardinals.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Good match-ups...
...Brewers will be at Arizona, and they won’t throw Sheets, but will face Davis/Ownings/Johnson/Webb, which is great news for us. The Thursday game is 8-2 Parra vs 12-4 Webb.
...and the Cardinals host the Mets for four games, but will miss Santana thanks to a doubleheader on Friday that changed their rotation a bit. Cardinals are gonna take that series, IMO.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Pretty astute analysis
I’ll say Cubs take three of four. Oddly, I think they’ll beat Lincecum (after all, they did last year … :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention that before the all-star break...
we have 4 San Fran, 3 Cards, then a 6 game home stand with the Reds and Giants. Barring that Cardinals series, we can make a good lil streak of wins here – 9-4 or 10-3, anyone? 6/7 or 5/7 Giants, 1/3 or 2/3 Cards, and a sweep of the Reds?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
How can so many of you expect to take 3 of 4?
The Cubs are NOT plying well in any aspect of the game right now. I’m hopeful they can turn it around but to expect them to all of a sudden win a series on the road while they’re still banged up sounds unrealistic.
The Giants...are...a...bad...team
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Thank you for that astute analysis, back to you, Dr. Morgan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Really?
Last time I checked, the Orioles were 3-4 games above .500. The Giants are 11 games under.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
AND in one of the toughest divisions, whereas the Giants are in one of the WORST and still can't succeed...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'll give you this, kc
If the Cubs go out there and lose three of four, I will become concerned. But I don’t think that’s going to happen.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither do I.....
But hate to (no acctuaally proud to say it)....I’ll be disappointed if they don’t get 3 of 4 too….
The best defense is a good offense
Gotta end some time, doesn't it?
This seems like the perfect time for it.
Jeez, some of you need to get a grip.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And last year...
...we took 3/4 from them at home, 2/3 on the road.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Your arguments are so...sound and deep, Dr. Morgan!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
And the Cubs are better this year
And SF might be worse.
C’mon, kc, don’t let your gloom and doom obliterate the truth.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
If you argued the Giants were in the NL West.........
I might buy that one …as the Cubs have DOMINATED NL west teams this tear….
The best defense is a good offense
Forgot about that part
Well, there you go.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Irrelevant
What they did against the D-backs has no bearing on what happens against the Giants. The fact that the Giants are a bad team is more convincing.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate to agree w/ SB but he's is right in this case
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you should go back to fighting with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
Was that KC Jones? Or Casey Jones? I can never remember…
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'm Strongly Considering
an impromptu road trip up to SF, so I can cheer the lads onto victory.
Eat More Katsui
City of Angels
So it would be a long impromptu road trip up the 101 or I-5. Still, I’m thinking about it….
Eat More Katsui
Do the 101 and have some red on the way up......of course in moderation
The best defense is a good offense
And morrow bay state park has an awesome golf course........
If you have time to stop…...OK….awesome = GOOD VALUE….
The best defense is a good offense
As long as most everyone is in a gloom mood...
OT: SNL last night STUNK!!
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jun 29, 2008 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
Some of it was funny
I feel asleep so didnt catch the thing. Carlin I thought was great. some of the skits funny. music sucked
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember, folks
Nobody’s as bad as they look … nor as good as they look … if that makes any sense.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
Every team...
...wins 60, and loses 60. What can we do with the latter third (+2)?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Agree
look at the TB series. But for CM’s melt-down, those were all very good games against one of the top teams in the majors. The O’s series… not so good. This series, except for the first game, they were all good games against the 3d best home team in the ML who were additionally motivated. Teams that are tracking for mid 90s in wins don’t suck for 70 games.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jun 29, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely....
keyboard is funny tonight….haven’t been drinking…which usually I have been wgen I post…
The best defense is a good offense
Oh.....an yea.......
if Marshall wants to throw 7 and give up 3 every 5th day…..I’ll take it….
The best defense is a good offense
This isn't a TWSS, this is a +45 (Sean Marshall's uniform number) for your comment.
If you’re really asking about TWSS, it stands for That’s What She Said.
Example:
Person 1: “Oh man, he really got me good.”
Perosn 2: “That’s what she said.”
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
and same as last start...
his 2nd time thru the order is when he was hit….
That’s correctable….
Hope springs eternal….
The best defense is a good offense
Unless we acquire sabathia or harden this season is going to end in heartbreak
Theres no way in hell we can win in october with this garbage rotation we are throwing out there right now, its pathetic. It could not be more obvious that this has the potential to be “the year” never have we had a better lineup and solid bullpen like this to win it all. We need two frontline starters in the rotation to even be considered national league favorites because what we have now is only good enough to get by for now
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
Lets hope so
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Al has reported that the Cubs are inquiring about C.C. Sabathia and have been looking at him for a while...
Let’s hope things work out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
At this point I don't really care what we have to give up for him
as long as we get him, there’s no point in waiting for the future when it is so clear that this should be the year
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn.....
People who think like I do…..Harden ha more upside…..but not sure why posters have thought he was avaialble.
The best defense is a good offense
Just gotta hope oakland keeps losing and laa keep winning
cleveland has been losin enough lately, there done for the year
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
The other thought on that.....
(and I’m a huge purveyor of the offense)......is runs….no matter how good your offense is…are hard to come by in October…
I DO NOT like the current rotation in a “short series”.....against a LOT of teams…...I don’t like the “match up’s”...It’s like the Cubs have a “1”...but not the best “1 and a lotta 4’s…..(or 3’s)
I don’t see any shut down guys…..Z is a legit #1…....but game 1 is a 50/50 prop….....I like demp…but I’m scared he’ll be tired come fall…...so that makes Demp and Lily ” 3’s”......Marsh, Gallagher, Marquiss, Lieber, Maddux?? (et. al.) , ....5’s…...you want to throw them in a short series????
All that said…you gotta score to win….
The best defense is a good offense
*MORTGAGE* the future....
...dot..dot….dot…..there might not “be a future”
The best defense is a good offense
I live at BCB, where there's this fly that doesn't really belong but just won't go away.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
/goes on with life.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Yeah, right...
... yawn now when people were jumping with joy last weekend.
Kinda sucks to be swept by a team you childishly call the “Sux?”
Nah, I call 'em the Soxies since you always call us the Cubbies.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Yeah, what a terrible ...
... name to call the Cubs. I’ll take that to heart in all my future posts here at BleedCubbieBlue.
So for a team trying for a championship, this was not the way to end interleague play. Although all these teams are contenders in their divisions, there is no reason why this team shouldn’t have gone 2 for 3 in each series. Tampa Bay isn’t that good, and the orioles are a .500 team. they just swept the sox last weekend, what the sox got all new w players in a week? I don’t think so. This was and is unexcusable. Winning teams win, no matter what, and no matter who is playing. Ask the cardinals and brewers about that. the excuse making needs to stop. This was unexcusable, poor play for a team that is now favored to go all the way.
Having said that though, it’s time to dust themselves off, move on to SF, beat the pants off them, and take 2 out of 3 in St louis before the break. After that, Johnson, Soriano and Zambrano should be back, and this team can focus on the stretch run because it’s going to go right down to the wire again.
Tampa Bay is a really good team.
And Baltimore are 2 games over .500 in a very tough division, division that Tampa Bay plays in, as well. The Sox murder people at home, and they are a good team. The Cub made crucial defensive and pitching mistakes in all three of those series, and they paid for it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Tampa Bay isn’t that good...
Really?
Follow baseball much?
Pitching? check.
Defense? check.
Speed? check.
RSIP BA? check.
Tough competition? check.
Yeah, they have a crap-ass field to play on, but they play decent on the road too.
I agree that they should have performed better against the O’s. Pitching was atrocious for the Cubs.
T Raysq
I get a lot of the Rays games…... they have a very good team which could go all the way
Teams come to play the Rays and UNDERESTIMATE them….. they think they are the
Rays of the past…........... NO WAY
by nimblenikelfoos on Jun 30, 2008 7:48 AM CDT reply actions
I follow baseball as much as I can…......kinda hard from kuwait you know.
Either way, on paper before the season, the rays weren’t expected to be that good. Nobody expected them to contend. So either a bunch of people underestimated them(very likely) or their due for a correction. Remember they’re still in the same division as the Red Sox and the Yankees so nothing is a gimmie for them.
However, the cubs were/are supposed to be their equal or better. They haven’t won in 100 years, lest anybody has forgotten, and this “well they were good teams and we played well against them but their in the AL and in a tough division” is crap. We should have beat them. Plain and simple. Winners win, and if the cubs want to be winners and bring a trophy back to wrigley, then they need to win, no matter who is in the opposite dugout, and no matter who is on the field. Yes, I know that the cubs won’t win all the games. But getting swept by a team, ANY team is unacceptable. and it’s happened twice now within two weeks. They need to play better. Losing sucks, and this team has had way too much of it.
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