Chicago Cubs @ Chicago White Sox GameThread, Jun 29, 2008 7:05 PM CDT

Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. White Sox, Sunday 6/29, 7:05 CT

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 4:00 PM CDT Comment 182 comments

Chicago Cubs @ Chicago White Sox

Next Game

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008, 7:05 PM CDT
U.S. Cellular Field

Partly cloudy with a 30-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing out to center field at 10-20 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

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Take a look at that weather forecast... by the end of the game tonight it may be in the upper 50's, very cool for this time of year. It strikes me -- and I have no specific research available to support this claim, and if anyone can dig up the info, please do -- that in all five of the Cubs' playoff seasons since divisional play began, the summer weather has been cooler than usual, and in unusually hot summers (1977, 1988 come to mind) the Cubs 2nd-half play has been poor (34-56 in 1977 and 38-50 in 1988 from July 1 to season's end).

Just sayin'. Cooler summer weather may be more conducive to Cub success than a hotter summer.

Today's column in the Daily Herald from Barry Rozner quotes that noted authority, Mark Grace, on the Cubs:

"The Cubs are by far the best team in the National League,'' said former Cub Mark Grace, who partnered with Thom Brennaman on the Fox broadcast Saturday. "Obviously, they can hit. If (Carlos) Zambrano's healthy, they'll be fine. That's the key. They need Zambrano healthy."

Hope he's right. Now let's win this one tonight.

Today's Starting Pitchers


S. Marshall Cubs	vs.	M. Buehrle White Sox


0-1	W-L	5-6
5.40	ERA	4.04
12	SO	57
8	BB	27
2	HR	9
vs. Sox	--	vs. Cubs

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Sean Marshall	0-1	14	1	0	0	1	0	13.1	15	8	8	2	8	12	5.40	1.73

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Mark Buehrle	5-6	16	16	1	0	0	0	104.2	110	53	47	9	27	57	4.04	1.31

The good news is, Sean Marshall threw six-plus shutout innings against the White Sox, at the Cell, just over a year ago on June 24, 2007. The bad news is, most of the Sox players in that game won't be playing tonight (likely only Jim Thome and A. J. Pierzynski from that lineup will be in tonight's).

The last time the Cubs faced Buehrle he limited them to two runs in seven innings, but the Cubs won anyway, 5-1, on June 22, 2007. Buehrle's been very good his last four starts, going eight innings in each one, and is 3-0, 1.41 in those starts. One thing's nearly certain -- tonight's game should be faster than the ones the last two days. Buehrle is one of the fastest-working pitchers in the game. He throws strikes. Cub hitters should be ready to pounce. Derrek Lee is 5-for-9 vs. Buehrle (two doubles, a HR).

You know very well what channel tonight's game is on. Go now and locate the mute button on your remote. For remaining games today see MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's first pitch thread posts at 7 pm CT. The overflow comment threads will post at 8:15 pm and 9:15 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cubs 13, Sox 5 Tonight…

- CF

by nervousCUBlover on Jun 29, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'll take that....

a blowout and a 4-2 season series over the pesky SOX!!

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 29, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's been a frustrating couple of games.

I think that Marshall will pitch a decent game, and the offense will do well, even without the help of “Banks Boulevard.” :)

by WartburgCub on Jun 29, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

exactly....

i’ve been b*tching about that line from morgan all week. go cubs!

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 29, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Light them up!!

Big win tonight, lets take the season series and keep the lead in the division at 3.5

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jun 29, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh

I have a feeling we’ll need alot of runs tonight….

by salparadise23 on Jun 29, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sox lineup

Per the Trib’s Sox beat writer, who blogs frequently. Of course, the Trib’s Cubs beat writer posts a blog entry maybe three times a week, so no Cubs lineup.

Cabrera, SS
Pierzynski, C
Quentin, LF
Dye, RF
Thome, DH
Crede, 3B
Swisher, 1B
Ramirez, 2B
Anderson, CF
Buehrle, P

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Marshall needs to keep the dang ball low

Man, that HR that Marmol gave up was bogus. Quentin took a freekin defensive swing and it turned out to be a HR?! That just shows Marshall better keep the ball low against the power hitting Whitesox.

I pray Marshall goes at least 6 innings and only gives up 3 runs (at max) because the Cubs need some confidence builder before they play the Giants.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 29, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sean Marshall

scares the heck out of me. We need a great outing by him tonight.

Hope Derrek brings his offense back with him tonight and Aramis is due for a great hitting game.

Score first and score often!!

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He scares me too.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jun 29, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they should be scared of us!

Cubs ANGRY! Cubs SMASH!

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jun 29, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw THE INCREDIBLE HULK today...

...and was disappointed, again. But I saw WALL-E today…it was GREAT!!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad to hear WALL-E is what it's cracked up to be

It’s tops on my list… was going to go today but ended up watching Cards-KC instead

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thought it was the best of the 7 or 8 Pixar films...

...words aren’t even spoken for the first 30 minutes or so, and it works perfect. And it was fun to see it with a theatre of kids giggling.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Saw WALL-E last night

thought it was incredible. The ability to have WALL-E and EVE portray such a range of emotions with really only one word each (or no words at all) shows the talent of Pixar.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jun 29, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good!! I want

to see it. Thanks!!

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

charming and fabulous

like anything Pixar touches. They are amazing storytellers and don’t even need words.

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jun 29, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WALL-E vs Hulk

WALL-E wins!

WALL-E SMASH and COMPACT and MAKE CUBE! GRRRRR!

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jun 29, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My friend said it was a lot better than the last one...

and that Edward Norton and Tim Roth were really good.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was better...

..but if you try to compare it to IronMan, Spiderman, or the gold standard, Batman Begins…now that’s just plain silly.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The first Spiderman was great

Ironman has that weird watercolor/300 animation doesn’t it?

because I can’t do that. It gives me an instant headache.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Batman Begins was one of my faves...

The first Spidey too.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lineup predictions?

anybody?

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jun 29, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A few good men...

...throw in some scrappiness, a designated hitter, and a dude with a bum ankle.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take a guess.

Dome
Theriot
Lee
Ward
Ram
Edmonds
Soto
Murton
Fontenot

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can someone explain by Ward's been batting clean-up, and now A-Ram?

I don’t get it.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOT A-Ram, ahem

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lineup fung shui.

Get your lefties spread out.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My guess

To mix up the righties and lefties a little bit, especially assuming Edmonds bats after Ramirez. With Ward at cleanup, it’s

L
R
R
L
R
L
etc.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 29, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why no DeRo?

He owns Buehrle. Why play Fontenot and Ward against a LHP?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Predictions

Here’s my prediction:

Fukudome CF
DeRosa RF
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Soto DH
Murton LF
Cedeno 2B
Theriot SS
Blanco C

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 29, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN

look for Joe Morgan to apologize for being a dolt

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

more like look for him to ignore the fact that

sandberg even exists. :-P

and lots of mentions of the “big red machine”.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won't

hold my breath.

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sue, did you see the I-Cubs yesterday?

How did they do?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes I did.

Well the first game anyway. We only stayed for the 1st inning of the double header.

Got to see Micha and Koyie hit homeruns..those were the highlights. Piggy had a tuff day. In the first inning of the 2nd game Hart did well and then we scored 2 in the bottom of the 1st.

It’s really a nice ball park and they do several things for the kids between innings.

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds nice

I hope we see the Hoff back up here. The man can hit! Glad you had a good time.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT: Haven't asked how you're doing Sue

Did the floods affect you specifically?

Hope you’re ok.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 29, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm doing fine thanks.

Walking to the game from the parking lot to the game there are still many sandbags sitting around.

We had some flooding here but not like some of the larger cities in our state. It was truly devastating for them. However be prepared to pay higher prices for your food. The damage to the crops is just a sad situation.

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my heart goes out to non-corporate farmers

corporate farmers: my heart goes out to the rest of us

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Royals are down to their last 3 outs

by maddux1-27-07 on Jun 29, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not looking good

9-6 Cards

the game that wouldn’t end … we’re pushing 4 hours here

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cards win....

by maddux1-27-07 on Jun 29, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the best part of a broken tv

no joe morgan. :-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

best part of no cable also

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tampa Bay...

...now tied with Cubs for best record.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 29, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Happy to see that CSN SportsNite

ran a nice fluff piece on how dominant Buehrle has been of late. Though very true, it always seems to be bad karma when CSN/Chicago runs a story about a player doing very well. Let’s hope the karma thing proves true tonight.

Go Cubs! Light him up!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

here's the lineup:

1. Fukudome
2. Theriot
3. Lee
4. Ramirez
5. Soto
6. DeRosa
7. Edmonds
8. Murton (this is the only one i’m not really sure about)
9. Blanco

I know this lineup is right from hearing it from 670 the score. 6 and 8 i’m not completely sure but the rest is right.

by lexmarklover on Jun 29, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wait i think cendeno is in place of murton

i mean he is 3-6 against mark

by lexmarklover on Jun 29, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

these OF injuries are tough.

I can’t believe that Edmonds is going out there again. Watching him run the bases yesterday was painful.

But what choice does Lou have?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey edmonds has a homer off of buehrle

by lexmarklover on Jun 29, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not complaining.

I just feel bad that the bench is so thin. Plantar Faschitis (sp?), what Edmonds has, is very painful. I had it once and it took forever to get rid of.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea i know

i was just telling u, no jab towards u

by lexmarklover on Jun 29, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His was aggravated by the field turf

hopefully that means grass isn’t as horrible for him. Put foot injuries for an OF make me nervous. He’s not a corner infielder where you can “take plays off” unfortunately.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murton makes sense...

I’m surprised Edmonds is playing against a lefty.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gives me just that much more respect for Edmonds.

when is his fan club meeting again? I think I want to go

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

but i keep hearing good things about the muffins.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Muffins..Hmmmm...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Drew posted a picture of muffins the other day

in that “j-ed fan club” meeting thread. and i’ve wanted a muffin ever since. might just have actually :gulp: bake.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or you could just go and buy one somewhere.

that would save you from baking

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

but i don’t drive. and theres no one around to take me or grab me a muffin. :-P oh well, i have a project for the week: GET MUFFINS. lol!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

next time you grocery shop jiffy brand ones are really easy and cheap

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'll keep them in mind

thanks madison

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but don't forget to buy the muffin wrappers things

if you do you will be eating muffin pieces not muffins.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention what a

pain the pan is to clean then…. not that i ever tried that one before… no not me. :-P

(ahh 7th grade home-ec. Good times)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we had a mess.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So did we.

but it was a good time.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey - baking is fun!

assuming you don’t have any little kids running around, when you’re done you get to lick the bowls!

mmmm… chocolate-chip cookie dough….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you're going to bake your wedding cake too?

Lucky bride!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hah! I may be good, but I'm not stupid

no way would I ever want to tackle a wedding cake. I’m happy with cookies, pies, and brownies (no – not those kind of brownies…).

Leaving the wedding cake to the experts – Dinkel’s.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahahah

wow remember when a lot of the cubs fans didnt’ want him and now he has his own fan club

it just tells u if u play good then past things are always forgiven

by lexmarklover on Jun 29, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

unless your name is Lance Berkman

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what's wrong with Lance Berkman?

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jun 29, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't ever expect to see him in a Cubs uniform...

...but if that day comes, he’s going to have to answer for that fake “beaning to the head” bit he pulled several years ago, before I ever cheer for him.

It’s one thing to hop around and flop your hand when the ball comes in on the handle. It’s entirely different to drop to the ground and feign serious head injury just to get on base. Even AJ wouldn’t do that.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When was this?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was in the month of August

Either 2004 or 2005

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Remlinger was the pitcher that Berkman put through the emotional wringer...

...so that would make it circa 2003-5?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barrett was involved in that whole feud

Which means it couldn’t have been ‘03

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dodgers lose 1-0 to Angels

and get only 3 hits after winning 1-0 last night with no hits. Left bases loaded in 9th. Talk about a struggling offense…

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that no-hitter thing was pretty crazy

how do you give up no hits, lose and still not get credit for a no hitter??

baseball is a strange game sometimes.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

run by strange men...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

because they lost

they only had to throw 8 innings. Isn’t that a trip. So it doesn’t qualify.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah i read Kurkijan's article on ESPN

about it. Muy strange. Nifty though. Just glad it did’t happen to my team.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My ESPN Prediction

Joe: “Bobby Cox told me a long time ago that Mark DeRosa can really hit. They just couldn’t find a place to play.”

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

BUT he already said that!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And this stops him, how?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it wont

morons are morons all the time

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just waiting for Joe to explain

how, if DeRo’s bat (pre-Rudy) were that good, Bobby Cox couldn’t fit DeRo into any of the 6 positions he plays.

I think I’ll be waiting a while…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jim Edmonds has earned my respect

He continues to play on a bad wheel for the good of the team. That is definition of a selfless team oriented winner in my book.

GET Rich Harden !!! 11 starts, 5-0, 57 IP, 83 Ks, 2.15 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 29, 2008 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

im glad he is able to tough it out

what stinks is that if he could run he would have scored on a double yesterday and things would have been different

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BUERHLE

LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have no faith in Sean Marshall getting out of the 4th inning

You can lambast me all you want, but fact is Sean Marshall sucks and has no business being an option in this rotation.

GET Rich Harden !!! 11 starts, 5-0, 57 IP, 83 Ks, 2.15 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 29, 2008 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you said that yesterday

and I agree….although I am hoping the pace that Buerhle sets will do well for Sean

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not much of a choice right now..

Leiber might have been an option, and they could have called Hart back up, but I don’t see that as much of an improvement.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lieber could be a good option

But I haven’t been too impressed by Hart. Plus, I think he just got off the minor league DL.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hart wasn't an option

he took a line drive off the head and just got back into action … yesterday or the day before. He’s okay though.

I like Hart. He’s got good stuff.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"you gotta have Hart...." ;-)

sorry – just getting warmed up for the game thread. It could be a goofy night…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

With Miller & Morgan doing the game

you can count on it. Drink heavily or mute it.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I said earlier

the ONE nice thing about a broken TV… Thank God my computer is okay! ::knocks wood::

Sorry Kerry.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or if your able to turn on Pat and Ron

thats what I’ll be doing :)

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I'm doing do too...

just wish I could sync it to the tv. I need a TiVo thingy for the radio.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no cable so don't have that problem

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I drank heavily last night...ugh

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ive been drinking heavily today, but more tired than drunk

live near the parade route and it was a good time, what sucks is its POURING still

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What parade?

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by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Parade?

Which parade was today?

God I haven’t been paying attention at all.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

pride parade

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh. Thats nifty.

:-)

Didn’t realize it was already time for the Pride events… but I guess it is almost July. Thats crazy.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chicago has a parade a minute

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Over/Under is 1.5...

..for the amount of times Dr. Joe Morgan mentions the cheap homeruns. The number is only down because they aren’t at Wrigley.

I’d go with the under.

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by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 29, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Anybody elee getting desperated for a win?

I seems so long ago…..

by Mapmaker on Jun 29, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I put on the alternate blue Ramirez tonight

just trying to switch things up.

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by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 29, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I put on the HOME SOSA

NOW THAT’S DESPERATION

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a Prior batting practice.

Should I break it out?

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by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 29, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you saved that?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I went to the Salvation Army to give it to them.

...they turned it down.

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by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

YES

IT IS TIME

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This from Twitter..

“Z says he feels so good after pen session today that he wants to start tonight. On track for 1st eligible day—Fri. at St.L.”

27 minutes ago from txt

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm so glad they DL'd him

He’d want to rush himself back and try to talk Lou into letting him do something I know it.

And THAT is great news. Thanks for letting us know, Bump.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad they did too...

I bet our last manager would have had him pitching already.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

me too

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Said same things at the Bandets game the other day.

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Z said the same thing?

Was Z at a Chicago bandits softball game?

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wensday I think it was.

Out to support his home country

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

???

Was there a Venezuelan team playing? Or do the Bandits have some players from there?

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Venezuelan olympic warm-up aginst the Bandets

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool!

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who's twitter is that

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by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wittenmyer's I think

from the… Herald?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep..

Sun Times

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahh.

Always get them mixed up. They’re next to each other on my feed reader. :-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was Lou's...

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by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take Lou's twitters

any time of the day or night

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't let Mrs. Piniella hear you say that!

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't twitter but Lou gets one sign me up!

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TWSS?

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 29, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

omg that does sound like a twss now as i skim thro LOL

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can anyone explain to me

the reason for Matt Murton’s existence? If Lou isn’t going to start him against a LHP, he might as well call up a 13th pitcher.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess I agree. I'm not sure what has been going on in Lou's mind the past couple of weeks.

I’d play Cedeno more. I like EPat at 2nd over Fontenot. Etc.

by zevkalman on Jun 29, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or DeRosa at second

that could work…

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lou knows that DeRo hates playing OF

that’s why he puts him out there so much. Putting DeRo at 2B would be….

....the nice thing to do—bad for Lou’s rep.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

and we’re not exactly overflowing with Outfielders at the moment and DeRo can play and won’t B about it if he is out there.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a school of thought

That the defense would be better with a LF in LF and a 2B at 2B, and that the offense would be a wash (Murton and Cedeno/Fontenot – is anyone willing to make a strong case of one over the other this year?)

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Against a lefty?

I think it’s pretty obvious that Murton is a better hitter than Ronny Cedeno.

People seem to have a fetish for this year’s numbers, though. I don’t see where Murton has had an opportunity to put up numbers this year.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, Murton hasn't really had an opportunity

But few are fighting his corner anymore.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously doubt that Lou checks the BCB pregame post...

...before he makes up his lineup.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maby we should change that. lol

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't need a weathervane to know which way the wind blows.

Fans tend to be very… reactive. E-Patt went from being a goat to a hero to a goat in the span of a week. It’s probably best if Lou doesn’t listen to us too much.

That doesn’t mean that Lou doesn’t have faults, or that we should all become Lou Piniella’s band of merry men or whatever. But you can’t run a baseball team the way the fans want you to.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lou does seem to have Hendrys ear

Lou is the best manager the Cubs have had since Leo and mabe Zim
(baseball smarts wise)

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well you see, when a mommy and daddy love each other...

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"shudders"

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He asked why he exists.

Figured he missed that part of health class.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know the biology,

I just don’t understand Lou’s psychology!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 29, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hehe

Don’t question the Lou, those bases are HEAVY.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yahoo lineup

K. Fukudome rf
R. Theriot ss
D. Lee 1b
A. Ramirez 3b
G. Soto dh
M. DeRosa lf
J. Edmonds cf
H. Blanco c
R. Cedeno 2b

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 29, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no love for the red head

this seems to be doing wonders for his trade value.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jun 29, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He'll make some useless pinch-hit appearance late in the game

and we’ll all be screaming “Nooooooooooo!”

by Mapmaker on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can count on that!.....the screaming part

by JB 23 on Jun 29, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

:sigh:

our SS and 2b keep getting flip flopped.

and its good to see Soto get a day off behind the plate.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cubs pre-game time

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

3 20 pitch sessions z pitched today

and told Cory that he’s felt fine

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he has one more light bullpen session mid week and should be activated for fridays game!

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

awesome

i just hope he wakes up feeling good tomorrow…

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

me too

also hopefully after geo’s bad day yesterday he has a good game tonight.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a day off behind the plate

might do him good. He’s caught pretty heavy innings and we’re only half-way through the season.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have to remember that as I see his BA drop off

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 29, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

its hard though. He’s set the bar pretty high. :-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lets hope he wakes up feeling good saterday

by cubbierc on Jun 29, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sox are changing their 7:11 start time for ESPN?

Do they lose money by doing that?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 29, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN's contract with MLB allows them to preempt start times.

I would presume that was negotiated in their contract with 7-11.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 29, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN STRONG! -- 7/11 weak...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha, nice

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

goodness cubbies it's time to rip those sox UP!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

i want to win today, this losing stuff sucks.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 29, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess you could say

BUERHLE

LIGHT HIM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like Sponge Bob says

I’m ready, I’m ready, I’m ready, ready ready ready!
No brooms needed tonight!

Geovany Soto you're my Hero

by love the ivy on Jun 29, 2008 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This was recently posted on Yahoo Answers....

Q: How many players in MLB history have played for both the Cubs and the White Sox?

A: 163.

Well-known names: David Aardsma (the alphabetical leadoff man amongst all major league players), George Bell, Bobby Bonds, Smoky Burgess, Tommy Davis, Moe Drabowsky, Lee Elia, HOF Johnny Evers, Oscar Gamble, Tom Gordon, HOF Rich “Goose” Gossage, HOF Clark Griffith, Ron Hassey, Lance Johnson, Jay Johnstone, Dennis Lamp, Don Larsen (yes, the perfect game guy), Vance Law, Darren Lewis, Kenny Lofton, Chuck McElroy, Cal McLish, Jamie Navarro, Donn Pall, Josh Paul, Phil Regan, Steve Renko, Scott Sanderson, future HOF Ron Santo, possible future HOF Sammy Sosa, 1980 AL CYA Steve Stone, Kevin Tapani, Dick Tidrow, HOF Hoyt Wilhelm, and Dutch Zwilling (who ends the alphabetical list, nicely bookending with Aardsma).

by Neifi Puppy on Jun 29, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs